[strongirl]

Karategrrl, I forget if you are a padded bra wearer or not, but I've wondered before why I've had such positive experiences with my small tits while some of you have had lukewarm or negative reactions from men and I wonder if it's because I don't "false advertise". If you look like you have bigger breasts due to padding, then when he gets you in bed and they disappear, that would be weird at a minimum and potentially very disappointing to a hardcore "breast man". Since they know what they're getting beforehand with me, maybe I only end up in bed with the ones that like 'em small to begin with. I dunno...just a thought.

[Vendetta]

Hey ailurophile, no, me and the bf didn't break up. In fact, I now allow him to see me and touch me in that department, again, and sex has gotten a little better. I'm feeling better with myself, in terms that I don't think about it that much anymore, but I still want implants and I want them for myself.

I'm not "punk as fuck" anymore, I was in high school. I miss those ol' days eheh It's kinda hard for me to go braless cause it looks like I have two nipples in certain tops, due to my nipple rings. It's odd. But I still love them, they kinda remind me of myself in those days.

What I wouldn't do to have A cups... I put on some weight so my clothes look really tight on me now. I look disproportional with nothing on top, so the other day I put on my mostly padded bra and a couple of "chicken fillets" to fill out a pretty top and I felt so good with all those tight curves. I would't try to lose this new weight if those chicken fillets were real.

[karategrrl]

I honestly love them and all the lovers I've had have been quite taken with them.

I wish I could say the same. I honestly think all my male lovers have accepted the "package" that is my body *in spite of* my breasts. Female lovers, however were the only ones to go nuts over them which, I have to say, was AWESOME.

[strongirl]

I see Eleven, I love that you asked that question. It's very insightful! I have given this some thought in the past and while the answer has varied some from time to time, I have to say I wouldn't change my titties. I honestly love them and all the lovers I've had have been quite taken with them. That's one reason I've never gone for implants - I think there's a very good chance I'd wish I had my original pert little tits back. No, I would keep my 34A's. But thanks for asking.

[karategrrl]

Unfortunately that was management. He is our general manager for a small 30 person company.

Good grief, ailurophile. What a jackass. I'm so sorry you have to work for someone like that! I'm worked in small companies myself, and it truly sux when someone in charge--who you must answer to--is of the shallow variety. I hope he's not that bad normally.

I see eleven, given the choice of what I have now or breasts that could get out of control, I'd stay with what I've got. What I ideally want is very specific (perky, puffy-nippled small or average B cup), so my chances of getting just that would be slim in that scenario. I personally wouldn't chance it. Interesting thought, though.

[ailurophile]

Karategrrl: "Can you say something to management? that is definetely NOT office appropriate language." Unfortunately that was management. He is our general manager for a small 30 person company. And I am so happy for you. What you said to those guys must have opened their (or management's) eyes. I commend you again for speaking up. Those jerks probably do hate you but I bet there are many customers (men and woman alike) that are relieved that those pics are no longer there.

Strongirl: "That comment from your coworker was simply inappropriate, in any office setting. Your sensitivity is not the issue." Thanx for making that point. I really was completely unaware of that until you said it. It kind of hit me like, "....Oh yeah...." Like karategrrl said, "you definetely weren't being "sensitive" about it at all. Sounds like you were being rather impartial, in fact--yeah, small ones work just as well--that's a fact." Funny though, it was someone with big boobs that suggested my sensitivity. I am upset though that a girl (as well as my friend) made that comment. I'm not sure what's worse: the original inappropriate comment or the sensitvity comment.

Vendetta: It sounds like you and your bf broke up. Is that true? Is he the only reason you wanted implants? I mean I know you still think about it, as alot of us do. But it seams that only b/c your relationship is over, you don't care so much about implants anymore. What about when you find someone new? Will you feel the need for implants? Think about you. Try to get comfortable with yourself, as I am trying. Practice what I preach, right? I am trying (and this is HARD) to get comfortable with my "booblets" and I think you should too. I have a fairly new guy who I wish I could please with boobs but I try to compensate in other areas. (...yes, I feel the need to in this boob-loving society.) You want someone to love you, don't you? ...Not your breasts. Will someone love you less b/c your breasts are little? I know, toots! I'm still fighting myself on this. Also, I wear my little sexy tops even when I'm home alone now, not just with bf. This appreciating my breasts project is alot of hard work, I tell ya. By the way, you're a girl after my own heart. I'm not "punk as fuck", as you say but I was a punk in high school. I still listen to Sex Pistols, Misfits, DK, and all the old school punkers pretty much every day. It's what keeps me going while I work.

I see eleven: Hmmm.....I really need to think about that. I'd say yes I would, but I don't want huge ones either. And I don't want guys noticing me for my breasts. If I could love my breasts and be sexy and hot as is, like some of you girls, I wouldn't care. I would be happy looking like these models on the couturecandy.com website that crinoline suggested. I would be thrilled to like the models on this is hot or this looks so comfy but chic. (Not sure if the links will work. I don't really know what I'm doing. Sorry.)

[Vendetta]

Likewise pretty much anything in my life, I'd jump at the chance and if I realised I'd made a mistake, I'd think that at least I took a step to know it.

The problem lyes when there is apparently no other way and you just have to deal with it.

[i see eleven]

so i've been thinking...what if there was a way, a natural way, a God given, free, safe way to achieve a larger size. but the thing is or catch would be that there would be no guarantee that you could return to your present size, the size that your "used to." the other thing is that once you started growing you didn't know, in the end, what size you 'd end up. i guess that's what life has and would do naturally and normally. what if this were possible? to have breast that continued or started to grow even tho those days were thought to be long gone. what if we really just "didn't" grow or never started growing but still could, God willing. would you take it? say like it would take a few months to a year for them to start and stop growing. just like it would have normally taken i guess.
k, my life has a theme..."be careful what you wish for. you just may get it!"
i've been thinking that what if God really did make it possible, and granted my wish to be a b or c cup? how would life be different and would it be what i expected and really wanted? could i handle any attention that i wasn't used to in the past? would the stares and comments be too much for me when that is something i don't have to worry about now? if i had a choice...would i really want them when i just recently came to accept myself? would the grass always be greener?
since i've never experienced larger breasts, and don't really now any better would i want my nearly nearly A's back after the fact?
I'm not saying i've discovered any such thing that could do it, but what if someday i do? will i regret what asked for?
i'm finally used to life with nearly nearly A's. it's not bad for me. i feel safe. would it be something i'd trade?
i'm not sure what i'm saying here but i've had these thoughts lately and if something like that is possible, i want to make sure it's really what i want.
really though, what if it were possible?
what would you do? before you say that you'd jump at the chance...really think. maybe we say that we'd jump at the chance knowing that it's most likely not possible. but what if it were? like i said how would your life change?
anyway, if i discover how to do this, i'll let you know. but the thought has been consuming me lately and i
don't know why.
i hope you kinda get what i've tried to say here. i don't know if i've made sense of not.
anyway just some thoughts...

loves to you all, God bless.
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[karategrrl]

ailurophile, you definetely weren't being "sensitive" about it at all. Sounds like you were being rather impartial, in fact--yeah, small ones work just as well--that's a fact.

WELCOME BACK, DJ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![ Glad you didn't get washed away from us by a hurricane!

Yep, I echo all you gals--just a B-cup is all I ask! I'd feel like Dolly Parton with a B-cup "rack!"

Hey, they do organ transplants--why not breast tissue transplants? (Yes, I'm joking...feeling rather silly tonight!)

[Vendetta]

No, I just meant people that don't like you with no aparent reason for it. I've always been nice to her but sometimes there she comes wih those harsh comments and Paula goes after her. Besides both of them, I'm friends with everyone.

[dj-bizmonkey]

i'm baaaaaack!

HI ladies! i have been way out of the loop for the last two months! i had to move and i didn't have steady access to the internet, then travel, then school, then hurricane evacuation. Whew! i am finally back to a regular schedule and i can check back in with some of my favorite people, the busties!

i'm glad to see a lot of the same familiar faces here, as well as positive and enlightening exchanges.

i have to echo something i read a few pages back (took me awhile to catch up), but what i wouldn't do to be just a smidge bigger. just a b-cup, for crying outloud! i feel that usually i am a voice of cold, calculated reason and i try to be uber-positive, but i am feeling like an unattractive sack these days. it is really nice to come in here and soak up all the positivity from you ladies. i don't have anything more to add at the moment, but i just wanted to pop in, say hi, and i promise i will be around a whole lot more!

[strongirl]

Nellie - those boys sound like rapists in training to me. Scary and depressing. I did lots of "sexual play" as a kid, playing doctor, etc - but it was always egalitarian (I showed my stuff and they showed their cute little penies, etc) and never coercive or violent. And boob size never even came up as a topic.

Vendetta - Previously I've suggested that you aim for a more generous and appreciative attitude toward yourself and your body; maybe you should extend that to other women as well. A harshly critical and competitive outlook rarely promotes good feelings.

Ailurophile - That comment from your coworker was simply inappropriate, in any office setting. Your sensitivity is not the issue.

Karategrrl - hearing that that store took down those pictures is wonderful news! Good for you! Empowering and inspirational! Thank you again for doing that!

[karategrrl]

She would have like ten or more little horny rowdy boys after her. I remember one time, I lost sight of them, and by the time I turned the corner to find them, she was on the ground with a pile of little grubby boys on top of her with their grubby hands all over her body. All I could see was her ponytail.

Sometimes, I wish they were just a wee bit bigger. [/font][/color]

neurotic nellie, God(dess), that is horrible!! Uh, did these boys ever get in trouble or anything??? that is absolutely terrible that that was allowed to happen! (Not to mention these boys learning at an early age that that is appropriate behavior!)

"I appreciate my breasts because I don't get accosted by men and/or women. I appreciate breasts of all sizes because they are beautiful and sexy. They really are distracting."

I agree. I love breasts of all types, but since I am trying to find things to like about mine, I will say I appreciate this too. I was watching somethign on www.youtube.com about a girl who got implants so she could do lingerie modelig and she said the biggest thing about the change in her appearance is men commenting like crazy, and thinking it is okay to do so. They even had footage where it happened right on camera as she was walking down the street, wearing a very conservative, high-necked long-sleeved tee-shirt. That would drive me insane.

ailurophile, I'm sorry to hear about what happened at work, but I SO SUPPORT that you said something. Good for you!!! We ALL have to speak up when people say and do offensive things. I think it may be a big part of our conditioning that we often don't even know that such things are offensive. Can you say something to management? that is definetely NOT office appropriate language.

Oh, and speaking of which, remmeber, everyone, that lighting store with the graphic pics that I complained about? Well, on return to such store, I noticed they had taken EVERYTHING down--even the more tasteful pics in someone's cube 9that you could still see from the service area). I must say, I am nothing less than shocked that they actually did it--though I know the poor little teen boys who cannot live without their porn for an entire work shift (poor babies) hate me. Tough tooties. I am really amazed at the effect one person can have! I think if one person speaks up, they are usually verbalizing something 10 other people would say but are too afraid or don't want to rock the boat.

[neurotic.nelly]

Vendetta, I'm sorry, maybe it's the language barrier, but when you say, quote, "So, how many Christina's have you had in your lives?" Do you mean, girls that are envious of you? And then moreover, what kind of a question is that in this thread or any other? Sounds like your trying to make yourself feel better about yourself again, going about it the wrong way. I know we're not in the same country, but sometimes you sound like you're from another planet as well. This is not the first time that you've asked or commented on something that made me cringe. Not BUST worthy.

[ailurophile]

I have to vent about what happened at work just now. We had some cupboards that were removed from the wall and large holes were left as an eyesore. We will eventually have them filled and painted but my co-workers were joking around about putting pictures up there to cover them, like of my pets, other's family, us employees etc. Someone suggested pictures of big boobs. My heart sank. Of all the progress I made since I've been here and I had to hear that....Ugh! So being offended, I said "Why big boobs? There's nothing wrong with small boobs? They work the same you know." So we went back and forth until the conversation disintegrated shortly after. He didn't say much I think since his wife is not a lot bigger than I am. ( It makes me feel better when she comes to visit.) Then my friend said to me, "Oh you're so sensitive about that. I don't know why." --kind of snotty....and this comes from a girl with a decent size rack. I said "Of course I am. I'm tired of hearing about big boobs." She didn't say anything.

[Vendetta]

Well... none of the girls are much feminine. Márcia is the only pretty one around there and I like her very much, as I like Cristina who dresses and sometimes behaves like a little girl lol. Paula is damn skinny, pale and a bit weird and dresses up like an old woman and her friend is this short girl with short hair also named Cristina that keeps teasing me since I made a sexy photo shoot with a couple I know. Everyone thinks she's envy and I start believing on that since she's not being funny anymore. It's like, okay that's enough, we got it already lol Vera is a super sweet and shy girl and we have a new classmate, Ana, who has something like 4 or 5 different colors in her short hair. Now we're in a photography school so we can get to know each other a lot by each one's photography style as we get to express ourselves through that. It's a night class so our ages go from 22 to 37 years old, so I get to see a lot of different criativity in there. Most of the girls just don't give a shit to what they wear and their photography has nothing to do with sexiness either apart from one or another, while I had two school works related to that. I had a lot of Cristinas in my life already and that doesn't bother me at all. I am good at a lot of different photography styles and she usually likes them, although she hates to admit it eheh I think she's bitter towards feminine girls and she hates that I'm not all looks but brains too.

So, how many Cristinas have you had in your lives?

[neurotic.nelly]

I've noticed lately that all the girls in my night class are small-breasted, they're all A and a couple of B-cups (all larger than me except for one). There's only one that is really attractive, although I keep telling her to dress nicely cause she's pretty, she doesn't really have a fancy taste lol None of them dresses nicely actually. Two of them rarely wear a bra and when they do is padded, the other one is so so skinny that it is impossible for her to have any breast tissue at all so I can notice the padding really well. I have to confess I think they look kinda weird without the padding but it could be because of the way they present themselves.

Jesus, V, you make them sound like a bunch of lepers of something.
*************

When I was growing up, I didn't get teased too much for being smaller than the other girls, plus, there were a lot of small, medium, and large sized girls. I didn't feel completely left behind. When I was ten, my best friend developed like large B's when most every other girl in 5th grade had yet to develop. I mean, she was huge! She might have even been bigger than that. Well, the boys would chase the two of us around and try to grope us. I was flat, and they still chased me and grabbed me butt and pinched my nipples. So, I still felt desirable, I guess . But, she got tackled by them consistently. She would have like ten or more little horny rowdy boys after her. I remember one time, I lost sight of them, and by the time I turned the corner to find them, she was on the ground with a pile of little grubby boys on top of her with their grubby hands all over her body. All I could see was her ponytail.

I appreciate my breasts because I don't get accosted by men and/or women. I appreciate breasts of all sizes because they are beautiful and sexy. They really are distracting.

Sometimes, I wish they were just a wee bit bigger.

[Vendetta]

I don't feel sexy either in my suposedly sexy tops, I feel flat. I always have to put on padding to feel powerful. I did it all my life and I'll do it forever until sugery. I stopped fighting against padding cause it makes me feel so good that I don't want to trade that for the psychological disconfort of going braless. That's just me and I can't be diferent and I don't care now. I love to play with clothes and I find it hard without breasts. I've noticed lately that all the girls in my night class are small-breasted, they're all A and a couple of B-cups (all larger than me except for one). There's only one that is really attractive, although I keep telling her to dress nicely cause she's pretty, she doesn't really have a fancy taste lol None of them dresses nicely actually. Two of them rarely wear a bra and when they do is padded, the other one is so so skinny that it is impossible for her to have any breast tissue at all so I can notice the padding really well. I have to confess I think they look kinda weird without the padding but it could be because of the way they present themselves.


In my teens I was "punk as fuck", armed up in my high-up-to-my-knee army boots and bright red hair, got lip pierced and still do have nose, ears, tongue, bellybutton and nipples pierced, besides the small tattoos. At 15 years old I had just seen my mother die so I didn't wanted to grow up the way I had to and the last thing that would ever cross my mind at that time was if I was being judged by anyone for my behaviors and looks. I played bass-guitar in Hardcore and Punk bands for 12 years, I played all around the country (Portugal is really small lol) sharing stages with all kind of bands joining all kind of people. For about 5 or 6 years I was the only girl who played in such bands (our punk scene here in Portugal is that small) but I did well.
I always took care of myself and loved to feel sexy in every kind of clothes, so I was a well taken care of and well educated freak. Breasts never really mattered besides curiosity, and with my padded bras it had never crossed my mind that someone would judge me for them.
One day I looked back and I had nothing. Besides experiences and having lived way more than is expected at my age, I had no goals. I got a decent job, started studying again and moved out, so I finally grew up the whole thing and have put things into perspective.
When booby-greed came in I didn't know how to deal with self-image issues. I too have that second though that you Karategrrl have, as "Well, there are folks who wonder what it's like to have feet or arms." It's kinda sad to make that comparison but sometimes I feel almost as curious as a man does for them, being a woman myself, not to mention that sexually I do respond when I see breasts. I'm gonna stay like this a long time but I know someday I'll trade that curiosity for them. But that doesn't bother me that much anymore. It is possible to take something like plastic surgery as a good thing, if you don't have self-esteem issues, although is not for everyone.
As for a healthier way of getting breasts, it is now possible. Macrolane is a biological gel that is injected into your breasts, gives you just a fuller look to what you've got but it only lasts around 2 years at maximum. The body absorbs it as it is biological and then you have to put Macrolane again. And the prices at each time are similar to surgery so I think there won't be many women going for Macrolane, although they're doing it already around here. But hey, technology is listening to us.
Just wanted to vent

Cheers V

[karategrrl]

"Team tittie," Bwah ha ha ha! Love it.

I also wonder what it'd be like to have breasts--well, big enough ones to grab, mold into bras and clothes, to look down and see a little cleavage and actually feel them bounce around...

Whenever I think that, my next thought is always, "Well, there are folks who wonder what it's like to have feet or arms." I don't know why my next thought it that, but it sure is humbling. I guess there is always someone who wishes they had something.

And though we all here know the risks of implants, right now that is the closest many of us would ever get to having bigger breasts. Maybe technology will offer other, safer, options at some point, but for now it's either "the ittie bittie tittie committee" or implants. I know I would never really get them, but I have had my moments where I thought, "Screw it, I just want to know, once in my life, what it's like!!" (Then I loop back to the above feet/arms thought...)

You know what has really made an impact on me lately? The comments under "26 Reasons" on www.implantsout.com. Ick. Even if I had the surgery and everything went perfectly well, I know I couldn't live with the things she describes there. I'd feel like some weird half-human/half-android science experiment.

ailurophile, those boys sucked. But I wonder how many of them are now with small-breasted women, hmmmm? I remember boys in my 6th grade class complaining that all the girls in the class were "flat-chested," and they, at 11 and 12, were all trying to convince each other they'd already had sex. Like, yeah, riiiight. It's that male "proving" thing we've discussed before. Funny thing was, I was one of the first girls to get my period, but I was able to fly under the radar due to my small breasties--I escaped so much of that teasing the poor big-breasted girls got. I could hide my Tampax but the other girls couldn't hide their boobs.

[ailurophile]

Glad you're back Vendetta. I'm not sure that there is a day that goes by that I don't think about implants. But I'm trying to stay on this side. For every surgery, we are giving into society's expectations. Besides my bf loving something fake, the $cost$ and obvious medical risks, I now feel like I would betraying my "sisters", although we have never met. I'm at war with myself and keep trying to talk myself out of surgery. You would think I have enough reasons to like me as I am. And my new little sexy tops that I was telling you about?? I don't feel sexy in them. I feel flat!!! But b/c of this support group, I still wear them (without a bra, at home). Bf hasn't said a word though. He just kinda notices for a second...no expression...nothing. I still wonder if he thinks, "Why is my titless girl wearing that??" Maybe that's why I'm feeling down again.

Regarding our conversation about winter clothes, I just bought several sweaters from www.venus.com. If I tuck in my belly, I feel like I look sexier...depends on my mood (not today). Of course, I still wear a padded bra. I look cuter than in the big frumpy sweatshirts and fleeces anyway. If anyone lives in Florida, Venus has three stores there. They do have cute sexy clothing. The prices are good. The ones I got ranged from $14 (that one was on sale) to $39 and the quality is pretty good. I like those new Boucle sweaters. They fit tight but can stretch down my long arms.

Neurotic.nelly: Ugh! I have nightmares about the itty bitty titty committee. In sixth grade when I was the last to bloom, the boys used to say I belonged to that. I've hated them ever since...those boys... and my titties.