[LoveMyPugs]

I find it tough to move the way I want in cowgirl if his legs are laying flat on the bed... much better for me if his knees are bent and feet planted on the bed, so I can rock back and push off again from his thighs.

Octinoxate -

Same with me and Mr. Pug!

[boblink]

THIS IS AN ADDENDUM to my post of 6:01 p.m. today. That's a $10 cover for the two-bit excuse that I couldn't get it together the first time.

But first . . .

(((Pugs))) Thanks for the kind words. Makes be believe I may be doing something right.

(((Octinoxate))) Yes, indeed, it makes sense. Whatever works for you makes sense to me.

And, now the Added info.

Some quick research that may be of some interest to a sexual scholar (as distingushed from sexual adventurers) revealed that the artist was Aretino.

Aretino seems to have been a permanent comic guest at the court of Pope Clement VII in the early or middle 1300s. After being kicked out for misbehavior of the sexual kind, he ended up in his own establishment in Venice living large and enjoying a lot of what he had on his mind. He deserves more time than I can give him here. He's the artist I referred to in regard to the Wheelbarrow position. He produced stacks of drawings of interesting, possible but impractical positions. I haven't tried Googling him; who knows what we might find. If you take the time and trouble to do it, please post the result.

I hereby correct my first description. The man is not holding her ankles or calves, but has his arms up to the the elbows under her thighs just above the knee joints. That seems to be reasonably possible.

If you try it, please give us a report.

I found it on page 283 of "Sex in History," by Reay Tannahill. She has participated in production of some interesting documentaries on TV, maybe ten to fifteen years ago.

Further addendum to my post of 3-17-07 at 6:01 p.m.

RE: Aretino.
I googled him and found a slew of ancient erotica, including the art, which has been erroneously credited to him. It appears that he was a writer of erotica and wrote the poetic text for each of the sixteen positions now labeled “Aretino's Postures.

You can tread the same trail plus much more, beginning with this URL. Sorry I haven't figured out how to insert a working link with this software.

Pornokrates.com/Aretino.html

[boblink]

Awesome post, bob! The only comment I have is that I find it tough to move the way I want in cowgirl if his legs are laying flat on the bed... much better for me if his knees are bent and feet planted on the bed, so I can rock back and push off again from his thighs. (Does that make sense?)

Good luck, hills! Have fun!

THIS IS AN ADDENDUM to my post of 6:01 p.m. today. That's a $10 cover for the two-bit excuse that I couldn't get it together the first time.

But first . . .

(((Pugs))) Thanks for the kind words. Makes be believe I may be doing something right.

(((Octinoxate))) Yes, indeed, it makes sense. Whatever works for you makes sense to me.

And, now the Added info.

Some quick research that may be of some interest to a sexual scholar (as distingushed from sexual adventurers) revealed that the artist was Aretino.

Aretino seems to have been a permanent comic guest at the court of Pope Clement VII in the early or middle 1300s. After being kicked out for misbehavior of the sexual kind, he ended up in his own establishment in Venice living large and enjoying a lot of what he had on his mind. He deserves more time than I can give him here. He's the artist I referred to in regard to the Wheelbarrow position. He produced stacks of drawings of interesting, possible but impractical positions. I haven't tried Googling him; who knows what we might find. If you take the time and trouble to do it, please post the result.

I hereby correct my first description. The man is not holding her ankles or calves, but has his arms up to the the elbows under her thighs just above the knee joints. That seems to be reasonably possible.

If you try it, please give us a report.

I found it on page 283 of "Sex in History," by Reay Tannahill. She has participated in production of some interesting documentaries on TV, maybe ten to fifteen years ago.

[LoveMyPugs]

God I love when Boblink posts!

My personal favorites that he mentioned are good ol' missionary with my feet or legs on his shoulders. I love my toes sucked on so this gets my feet very close to his mouth. He doesn't do it often because he likes to catch me off guard and surprise me. A pillow under your hips will ABSOLUTELY improve G-spot contact, improving sex all together.

If done some different forms of modified missionary. I find these are good for late in the night slow quickies.

Regarding cowgirl, my man is very wide (not fat just wide hipped) and I'm so short that I tend to see saw on top of him and my thighs are very sore the next day. However, while on top I can grind on him like Bob suggested and control speed and penetration more. I'm not up there for long cause it kills my thighs and knees but while I'm there I love it. I too prop him up on a pillow so we can have more eye contact. He loves to watch me in this position.

THE DOGGY STYLE IS A MUST! again THE DOGGY STYLE IS A MUST! I don't understand those who have a lesser regard for it. Makes no sense to me at all. This is my and I'd go as to say it's most women's favorite position. We prefer to both be on the bed instead of him standing because again there is a height difference but it's still a regular in our bedroom (any room actually).

Sorry to cut this short but guests just arrived. I've got to go entertain.

The only other position I'd offer is similar to the chair but instead using an ottoman. You can lots of fun things on an ottoman.

HAVE FUN!!!!

[_octinoxate]

Awesome post, bob! The only comment I have is that I find it tough to move the way I want in cowgirl if his legs are laying flat on the bed... much better for me if his knees are bent and feet planted on the bed, so I can rock back and push off again from his thighs. (Does that make sense?)

Good luck, hills! Have fun!

[boblink]

question...def. a bit out there i suppose, but does anyone have tips on sex positions for my bf and i ? we're both new at this (like a month and some change- ea. other's first) but already we're like "what next?"...apparently im too tight for a lot of things and im not into pain, so anything that's...i guess the term is intermediate??Something to help us work up to pro level? haha* ...Nobody freak out!

Over all the centuries since Eve ate the Apple, artists and philosophers have depicted and described more than 200 positions. They are, of course, all interesting, but the truly useful can be sifted down to perhaps a dozen. The precise number is highly subjective. One Italian about the sixteenth century, left for posterity a remarkable drawing of the wheelbarrow position. You can be the judge of whether it's useful. The man holds the ankles or calves of the woman who, face down, holds herself in a more or less horizontal position with her hands on the floor.

Here are a few to think about. It's all a matter of two considerations: personal preference and personal differences. Virtually all men can make it in any position where appropriate friction is possible. Many women, I'd guess 20 percent, have the same ability. Try'em all -- everyone that's acceptable to you both. Some are better than others and it takes some time to try every one of them. But what else had you rather be doing?

Four or five variations of the ol' Missionary: Depending on your personal preference (probably based on your personal anatomy) 1. Legs straight on bed; 2. Feet flat on bed with knees raised; 3. Knees pulled back toward shoulders with feet in the air; 4. Your feet or legs on his shoulders; 5. A pillow under your hips will improve G-spot contact. So will 3 and 4.

Modified Missionary: On your back raise your legs. On his side he slides under, you lower your legs over him and reach down to position him for insertion. With one hand he reaches to stroke your clit to orgasm.
Note that it's not necessary for him to thrust in this position. Your involuntary vaginal contractions resulting from the clitoral action is his reward. And you're virtually guaranteed orgasm every time. NOTE that this, traditionally, has been recommended by therapists for women who have trouble reaching orgasm. It is indeed good in that situation. But it's also fun for both most any time. ADDITIONAL NOTE: If he can use his other hand to twiddle a nipple while he strokes your clit -- whoo, dynamite!

And the always popular Cow Girl: He's on his back with legs together. On your knees you straddle and position him for insertion. You can control clit contact, pressure and pace. He can reach both breasts and with a doubled pillow under his head sooner or later he can take a nipple in his mouth. That can be a great help to orgasm. Encourage him to hold still and let you do the thrusting to give you better control over your orgasmic destiny. The degree to which you accept and use this situation is subject to your own experimentation and reactions. Try every angle and clit contact that you can think of.

The Doggy style is a must. Everyone wants to do it at least once. Some make it a regular. Some have a lesser regard for it. Your choice of two basic positions and either way you're on the bed on your knees. 1. He stands on the floor. 2. He's on his knees in bed. Depending on physical characteristics of either or both of you, it may or may not be difficult to maintain insertion. And it may or may not be easy for him to reach one or both breasts or one breast and clit at the same time.

The Chair. A delightful experience for both. Many types of chairs have been used to memorable effect, but to begin I reccommend a small, narrow chair with a sturdy back. A low stool situated to keep his back against a supporting wall or appliance, will work Big executive swivel chairs have been used to wonderful effect. In absence of a better idea, he can sit on corner of a bed (with no footboard) and you straddle him with your feet on the floor. The action here is much the same as in the Cow Girl. It's under your control and with some determination he probably can manage to get a nipple in his mouth. My own experience has been that this is second only to the Missionary.

ADDITIONAL NOTE FOR BEGINNERS. One of the more effective techniques for him to learn is to use the ridge to stimulate your vaginal sphincter. Slow, very slow, twisting while very slowly thrusting in and withdrawing only the head. It may take a lot of practice to do it to best effect, but again, what else had you rather be doing?

Good luck and good loving.

[culturehandy]

looktothehills, what have you tried would be the place to start. There are so many things, so let us know what you have done. What do you like in terms of posititions?

[looktothehills]

question...def. a bit out there i suppose, but does anyone have tips on sex positions for my bf and i ? we're both new at this (like a month and some change- ea. other's first) but already we're like "what next?"...apparently im too tight for a lot of things and im not into pain, so anything that's...i guess the term is intermediate??Something to help us work up to pro level? haha* ...Nobody freak out!

[maddy29]

just to bump the ass down....

the shower vs. grower thing is so funny. i thought they were all growers, i mean i thought that's how they worked. my boy looks pretty normal sized but dang-when he gets worked up it's just a totally different thing.

i can't imagine if i had a body part that grew and shrank like that. it must be weird to be a guy.

[girltrouble]

and i just hate porn bots. go away.

[maddy29]

hey lapis-yeah, i've heard of the fisting thing as being a really powerful release for some women. i'm so glad lorax brought this up-because it reminds me that there are things i can try to become more in touch with myself. I'll have to have the boyfriend read your descriptions, see if he's into it. lately i haven't wanted any penetration at all, so we'll see.....

[lapis]

Lorax and Maddy, this might sound weird because it's so completely marked as fetishy but, if you haven't, you might want to give some thought to fisting. When you have a patient partner who is attentive and trustworthy there is nothing as mindblowing and healing as a slow, careful hand you can fully surround. I know it sounds odd but even the working up to the whole hand takes so much time and gentle care it gives you a chance to release and experience your openness in a whole new way. You could work up to it using multiple fingers; it's a trust exercise and a way of unfolding into divine pleasure--when done with great care!! And it's all about the massage, coaxing muscles to relax and attending to them when they tighten up, waiting through contractions...I think the violent connotations have to do with the power play some people engage in--or just crappy partners. But in a trusting situation it really does some hard work--and can make you feel powerful when you let go and open up.

EDIT for disclaimer: Despite its potential for pleasure, without proper caution, slowness, lube, gloves, communication, etc. fisting can be very dangerous and painful. Doing it well requires knowledge, trust, and a lot of time, so be careful!

[humanist77]

Thanks for your insight, gals. I'll just have to see what happens. At this rate, it could be awhile-not that there's anything wrong with that..although I did see them kiss today. It was adorable~

[maimy]

Beloved Ex was like that. I always called it a Mood Dick. When he was hard, it was wonderful - but when he was very, *very* hard, it was delightful.

[culturehandy]

dayglow I totally know what you are talking about! I've been with a few men who are growers. I was like, fuck.shit.damn! I'll take more of that!

[the_lorax]

Maddy,
I'm so glad you have experience something like this as well. I I think many people are really out of touch with the mind-body connection and the effect emotions have on the body.
I'm not entirely sure exactly what he did to me because I couldn't always tell where he was touching, but I would imagine that it was much like an external massage. He said he would find a tight feeling muscle, rub it, and follow the line of the muscle massaging it. Some of it was painful (physically and emotionally) to work through, but after it was so 'wow, I needed that'. It was really nice to have someone to hold onto while going through this, the support and connection was amazing. It wasn't arosing per-se, but i left me feeling soooo relaxed and happy, and horny.
As for how I work through it, is as soon as something comes up, I experience the emotion, and the phycial sensation and sort of breathe into it (not try to release it, just experience it and acknowledge it) and he can work me through it. I felt really floaty and concerntrated- kinda like meditating.
Now when we have sex, sometimes I can notice in my vagina, where there is tightness, and he will stop and massage it out for me. When we do it each time, he gets different and deeper areas it seems. He also says that sex feels wayyyyyy better for him as well, as I am pliable and soft and hugging him instead of tight and muscley. Plus now I can feel all of him as well. I love it when the tinyest movement can cause incredible sensations.
I think the most important part is communication (some nonverbal) as to how comfortable you are and your trust level. Otherwise you'll just create more tension.

[dayglowpink]

I agree with everything that has been said about penis size. I LOVE big dicks, but I have had great experiences with guys that had smaller dicks, too. I am not good at deep throating, and it is nice to be able to fit a smaller dick all the way in my mouth. I was just talking with my guy about this the other day- has anyone heard the terms shower vs. grower? (They rhyme, not a water shower) Dicks that are small when flaccid but then get much bigger when hard are called growers, and the ones that are about the same size both ways are showers. My guy's dick looks small to average when it's soft, but he is actually over 8 inches hard. It's interesting how many variations there are!

[maddy29]

LORAX-

that is fascinating!!!! this is different, but i've had some experiences where i did feel like my dude somehow released a bunch of stored up energy. sometimes it makes me cry, sometimes it just feels like a huge relief.

the other day he was playing around with me, and started rubbing the whole vulva with his hand and the heel of his hand. it was weird-i mean i looove that and it feels awesome, but it also is feeling like some sort of weird release valve, or something. it feels like-omg that spot has needed to be touched like that for soooo long, i didn't even realize it!

ok, i have no point here, but i'm just excited and interested to read about your experience. can you say more about the intimate massage? like, he put fingers in you and then rubbed the walls? lol that sounds weird.

i think i have a LOT of tension and stuff stored in my nether regions, so i'm really curious to try out this massage thingy and stuff. exciting!

can you say more about how you worked through the feelign that was there? i mean, was it like "oh, that's fear, let me breathe through it"?

this is making want another good rub.

[culturehandy]

Humanist and Pugs, I totally agree.

I was with a man once who was well endowed, but when it came to sex, he couldn't keep it hard. The sex when he could was disappointing.

[LoveMyPugs]

I keep telling her again and again that, first of all, a guy's body type is absolutely ZERO indication of the size of his nethers, that she will not find out until she has seen or felt his penis erect. Second of all, I tell her repeatedly that size doesn't have to matter-as long as he knows how to use it. That a well-endowed guy could be terrible in bed, and a poorly-endowed guy can be awesome in bed. Sure, size can make a difference with how it feels, but if he knows how to use it-different angles/positions, movements, good at oral, that is what really makes the difference.

I am quoting this because it needs and should be repeated over and over again. My man had huge (no pun intended) issues with thinking his penis was small when we first met years and years ago. I don't know where it came from but I wish I did. I think he'd seen other men naked (friends, family and guys in porn) and like women just had self esteem issues. He is not huge, BUT HE CAN FUCKING USE IT! He knows every angle/position to put me or himself into to make him feel HUGE! I feel bad for men with smaller penises because the stress they feel over it is no different then a woman with very small breasts, a flat ass or big hips. EVERYONE IS BEAUTIFUL AND UNIQUE GOD DAMN IT and when everyone in the world realizes this they will be happier and the world will be a better place.