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mandolyn
post Sep 29 2006, 09:06 PM
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(((yuefie & fam)))
i wish we lived closer.
what sidecar said.
this is a halfassed drunken post.
yoou have no idea how i saught coherency in the typing of this.
but beloved cousin love so rocks..
even in death, they make me laugh.


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yuefie
post Sep 29 2006, 09:01 PM
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(((((kvetchies))))) sorry for the flyby again, just tired and it was a looong day. Milla is still hanging on, Kim has an infection and is in some terrible pain accross her abdomen. They gave her moriphine but she is still hurting. Poor thing, I just feel so bad for her. She was made to feel really bad by a relative of the parents of the babies, like it is somehow her fault. Sometimes people just don't know how to handle their grief and it comes out as misplaced anger at others. Grief is not a pretty thing, especially when it's like that. My sis and I are trying to be there for her as much as we can. She has only one aunt who lives out here who is taking care of her 2 boys, so there isn't really anyone besides her girlfriends to be with her at the hospital. I'll be back tomorrow to update you all and try and vibe ya back. Thanks for all the thoughts, prayers and messages. Love you guys bunches!


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sidecar
post Sep 29 2006, 08:55 PM
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(((pip)))) I got married young, too, so you're not the only one. You seem to have a good head on your shoulders. Just be firm and make your expectations clear, and prepare for the worst if he's not willing to meet them. (from another daughter of an alcoholic to another). I would'nt write it off as wedding stress, but that's certainly not helping.

long day. the cat got her teeth cleaned, and she seems to be recovering okay.

((((amilita))))
((((luci))))
~~~~kim and babies~~~~~
(((mornington, f and f's dad)))))
((((rose)))) i hope you feel better


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designermedusa
post Sep 29 2006, 07:43 PM
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((amilita)) I’m glad the cops did something about the taco stands. It’s not right for them to disturb your peace and quiet. Yay for finding the right comforter at the right price.

((kim and the adoptive parents)) Sorry to hear about one of the babies dying. If Twin DM had died I know I’d feel like something was missing.

((pip)) Hope things get better.

((bunny)) I bought pj’s today as well, but they are blue.

((mornington)) Hope the day got better.

((sixel)) Good luck with training people.

((luci)) Congrats on making the decision about withdrawing from school. You got to do what’s right for you.

Have a great weekend ((Busties)).



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bunnyb
post Sep 29 2006, 02:12 PM
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(((prettynpink))) wow, you are a far stronger girl than I. I don't take criticism well, especially if it is in regards to the boy (which it seldom is) and I would FREAK if someone told me I was SO young (just sayin', kvetchies be warned). I don't want you to think we're attacking you cos I'm not and don't think you're making the wrong decision, you love Irishboy. What I will say regarding drinking -and I know as my grandfather is an alcoholic and my father when he was in my life- is that if he is an alcoholic then he can't drink, pure and simple. Any addiction has to be completely avoided.

I also have an amusing -and completely unrelated- story: today I went shopping and bought pink pjs and underwear, one pair of girl shorts have pretty in pink printed across ass - is that plain wrong? I wasn't sure!

(((luci))) concentrate on you, be happy and you will find your niche. No point doing anything you're not happy in.

I'm really worried about mornington and yuefie - any word? vibing you both and fretting about you sweeties.

mando, OMG thank you for that! I've crashed 6 x! (I had to play before finishing archives). I blame it on the right arrow key, I need to practice.

Lovely coffee and wander with boy's mum, she had plans so no dinner but now I'm curled up in my new PJs having a lovely, relaxing night to myself.

Cute pumpkin patch!

undies: dusky print padded bra and non-matching black girl shorts with fuschia pink bow, diamante pink heart and kiss me print.

(((everyone)))


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prettynpink
post Sep 29 2006, 12:13 PM
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Thank you for all the vibes and the gentle warnings and all that. Anoushh, you have every right to say that. I would expect my busties to speak up most of all.

Okay, First off, yes I'm well aware that I'm foolishly marrying a man that has a drinking problem. I also know an awful lot about dealing with alcoholics because my dad is one. Of course I also understand the psychological aspect of marrying an alcoholic that is allowing me to "fix" him. Right. All that blah blah.

heres the deal:
He's had drinking problems, yes. He has worked very hard for *himself* to control it. He can *usually* control it. When he doesn't, he is not a mean drunk. He is actually an angry drunk on RARE occations. Meaning that everything is fine until something pisses him off and then he just hold on to the grouch. Sometimes he is an utter shit. '

Here's my thing. I dont want to leave him because I love him. He loves me. I refuse to let my experiences with my father ruin this relationship. I am willing to work on it as long as he is, and as of right now, he's willing to work on it.

We know we're young. We know we have problems. We know that marriage is work.
We also know that the choice we're making does not, for us, allow for an easy out. Divorce is not an option.

We've discussed it. We think that we're worth it.

Anywho, (((((Busties)))))) thank you for the support.

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lucizoe
post Sep 29 2006, 12:12 PM
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(I passed first try too! Mwah ha ha ha ha!!!)

So, yeah, totally just handed in my college withdrawal forms. I rule. And I am seriously good with my decision. I chatted with Mr.Luci for a long while about the looooong list of pros and cons I drew up in my morning class, and he finally let me in on his opinion, which was that I should have done this weeks ago.

BUST has now seen me through, um, four colleges. Slacker! I think fashion design is next; the curriculum of a couple of places I looked at online last night seem much more in line with what I want. I'm so disorganized with my thoughts and desires; I really wish I was only good at like, one thing. It would make things easier.

Ugh, PiP. I'm not really sure what to say except, boo on him for being so immature and I really hope you two can sit down and hammer out a plan before the drinking causes anymore issues. That's so unfair to you.

raisingirl, those pumpkins are gorgeous! I bet the sunlight really looks lovely reflecting off and through the glass...

mando, good for you for calling. I was thinking about sending my ex's mom a little present from one of the shops in my neighborhood, along with a card (not a sympathy one, i don't think...maybe even something funny and light-hearted)...I spoke to him yesterday and he's doing much much better than the weekend, which was nice to know

mornington, I think sixelacat is spot-on with the do-over comment. Nothing wrong with do-overs...

stay upright, busties!

((all y'all))

eta-so weird. I'm about a week late for my period. Stress of last week and all that. I withdraw from school and boom! Get my period. I love my body's weirdness
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pixiedust
post Sep 29 2006, 11:52 AM
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Wow...I don't post for few days and suddenly there is like 3 pages of archives!

(((kim, millia, zoe, and Yuefie))) My mother was a twin. Her twin brother died at birth. My grandmother also had a second set o ftwin boys that also died at birth. It is just so scarey! It is hard enough getting one baby through 9 months, I can't imagine two! And it would break my heart to lose a baby!

(Bunny) I'm sorry I wasn't around to vibe. I passed my origional driving test here the first time, but when we moved to Washington and I had to take the written portion again, I failed twice! To many differences in the Oklahoma vs. Washington laws.

Rose, Talulah, really? I remember her of course! I have most of my boyds packed in a box in the closet. karen gave me so many of them and she died right before we moved and I just haven't been able to unpack them. I've thought about bringing them to work and decorate my office. I have the barest office and I've worked there 10 months now!


PiP..Wow...that would be a hard situation to be in! Wedding stress is probably part of it. God knows, Mr. P and I almost had a wedding calling off fight a few weeks beforehand. But I totally think you should stick to your guns about the drinking. Me, I'm a fun drunk. I get all cuddly and giddy. But I dated a mean drunk, and that is no fun at all.

Amilita, I'm glad the Taco situation got resolved. That would really irritate the heck out of me too!

Raisin, Those pumpkins are FANTASTIC!!

((billy, sybrite, faith, fina, six, and everyone else))


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mandolyn
post Sep 29 2006, 11:36 AM
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(((pink & irishboy))) because i've been there. in more ways than one.

continued love for (((kim & babe)))

*hello wave to billy*

now i want a glass punkin.

thanks for the nice comments on the cousin love. you people are truly lovely.

just got this in my email. and found it wildly appropriate. be careful, it's addictive.

usual boring undies. feh.


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roseviolet
post Sep 29 2006, 09:03 AM
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PNP, I'd like to applaud you for calling him out on his behavior. Stick to your guns, hon. Both for your sake and for his. ((((((PNP))))))

Hey there Billy! Getting excited about the race this weekend?

Raisin, thanks for posting that pic! I bet that looks amazing in person.

Six, best of luck training people in that meeting today. Oof!

~!~!~!~ stay-upright vibes for Syb ~!~!~!~

((((Mornington)))) We're here for you if you want to talk.

Horray for Bunny & her delicious cheese!

(((((((( continued hugs and vibes for Kim and Milla and family ))))))))

Thanks so much for the vibes! I'm feeling much better today, thanks. smile.gif
It is so cool and autumnal and beautiful here today! I think I might go out and enjoy it.
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anoushh
post Sep 29 2006, 08:41 AM
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If someone is a problem drinker there's always an excuse, whether it's "wedding stress" or something else.

It sounds like a good part of the reason there is weddng stress is b/c of his behaviour, as well.

This might be helpful--for anyone wanting to know more about this, I mean.

http://www.al-anon.alateen.org/S17web.html

I feel I've belabored the point enough, and I don't want PiP to feel like she can't talk about what's going on here. I was just really feeling, very, very concerned.
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katiebelle2882
post Sep 29 2006, 07:59 AM
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its not my place to say anything annoush i dont think but i was thinking the same thing. at the same time....i mean PiP you are SO young. maybe he needs to grow up a bit Before he gets married. I mean, when i was your age i was out going crazy drinking too and i would be pissed if anyone took that away from me before i settled down to real life. thats alot of pressure for someone so young and it may come back to bite you in the end (although clearly i hope not) when 10 years from now he has a midlife crisis bc he didnt get to do his early twenties thing before he had to settle down and like, get married. yikes. i am not sure thats fair to anyone.


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billybonka
post Sep 29 2006, 07:26 AM
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Good morning, Busties.

Mornington, I hope your day has taken a turn for the better. Sybarite is having much better dreams than I am. I wrecked my car in last night's dream. Segue to....... I passed my driver's test the first time!! When I was, ahhhhh, much younger, Texas would turn a 14 year old loose with a driver's license. I was in the last bunch granted that privilege.

Grey boxer briefs, as expected.
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raisingirl
post Sep 29 2006, 06:27 AM
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It's amazing what one can get done in a few days. I rule.

Get this, there's a glass pumpkin patch over at MIT this weekend. One of those times where I wish I had a digital camera to take pretty pictures of handmade glass pumpkins. Nerds rule. Artists rule.

IPB Image

Will be back later after reading the archives to join the rest of you flunkies (well, and maybe you, too, Polly) with the tale of failing my first driving test, among other things.

Beige seamless Wacoal with boring black cotton knickers.
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sixelacat
post Sep 29 2006, 05:58 AM
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Gah. Up at 6am? Who am I?

(((yuefie, Kim, Milla))) no words, just let them be okay....

(((bunnyb))) I kept failing my driving test (even though I aced Driver's Ed at 14) until the very last time before they tell you to just go away for 6 months. I took a wrong turn and the examiner screamed like I was kidnapping her, and my nerves were shattered after that. Glad you can schedule a resit!

*chucks tomato at polly* yes, yes you are... tongue.gif

(((mornington))) The hours between noon and 1 have special powers. If you officially declare "do-overs" and have a nap, after 1pm is a totally new day. I swear. smile.gif

(((PiP))) ~~~~~no more stress~~~~~

(((amilita))) your reserve will build back up. In the meantime, yay for moving the taco trailer!

(((mando))) and you did call and you do care and your cousin knows it. Good for you!

(((rosev))) ~~~~~muscle-relaxing vibes~~~~~~~

(((DM and Mr.DM))) ~~~~~even better next job~~~~~~~

kvetch: having to go in to work yesterday on my day off to deal with irate customer, who was told by practically the whole company that what he wanted to do wasn't possible after I told him it was. Grrrr.

anti-kvetch: am showing everyone HOW to do "the impossible" at this morning's meeting, so that never happens again!

(((anoushh, txplum, tempest, cstars, syb, treehugger, funnybird, sapphy, luci, pixie, anyone I missed))))

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bunnyb
post Sep 29 2006, 05:08 AM
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*~*~*~don't fall vibes for syb~*~*~*~ I fell into Starbucks yesterday (literally) and was wearing flat ballet shoes. I am so accident-prone, I have the habit of tripping over my pyjama trouser legs - seriously. Think there's a backlog on practical tests but I'm not planning to sit it immediately anyway although before Christmas.

I love pomegranate but so darn messy!

keep meaning to say: saw Beck once at a festival and he rocked. "Loser" especially, such a cult anthem.

eta: xpost with (((mornington))), you ok?


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mornington
post Sep 29 2006, 05:08 AM
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*sigh* bad day.

*snuggles up to (((rose)))*

(((pink)))
(((syb)))
(((bunny)))
(((mando)))
(((kim and bebe and yuefie and yuefiesis)))
(((anoushh)))
(((amilita)))
(((everyone else)))

Really bad day. and it's only half twelve. I'm going back to bed for a few hours and maybe I'll be better able to cope when I wake up. Probably not, though.
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sybarite
post Sep 29 2006, 05:02 AM
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Belatedly...

((((Kim)))) I hope they've found out what exactly is wrong and that she's doing better. And (((milla))).

Bunnyb, sorry about your test! There is such a backlog here that it takes months to book a test; I'm glad you were able to reschedule another one so quickly.

Mando, so glad you had such an awesome talk with your cousin.

Anoushh, enjoy the pedicure!

PinP, bloody hell. I hope things have calmed down. People do freak a bit under wedding pressure, but the forms that freakout can take should not be ignored. Friends of ours are getting married soon and have just bought a house together; they had a row the other night which was quite unlike them which we put down to the stress of all that's happening.

I just ate a pomegranate and now my lovely laptop has pomegranate spatter all over it.

I had quite a sexy dream about an ex of mine. It was kind of cheesy: at one point I dreamt he was in the shower and stuck his head out with a big grin. The mister and I are still on the outs so maybe I'm dreaming about exes in retaliation? Or maybe I'm just thinking too much.

Black knickers and black bra: matching, for once!

I am also wearing the skirt and heels combo I fell over in last week. Wish me luck...
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bunnyb
post Sep 29 2006, 04:35 AM
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It could all be down to wedding nerves though, couldn't it? Stress can manifest itself in horrible ways. (((PIP)))

~*~*~*~uber be okay vibes for kim~*~*~*~*~ (((yuefie, sis and niece))) and (((baby milla)))

*throws a rotten and rancid tomato at pollystyrene* wink.gif it was the paper part I failed cos I was underprepared, the annoying thing is that I know I can drive and had a fantastic driving lesson last night with no issues at all. Anyway, I'm going to cram from now til wed so I pass.

hehe, friends asking about stuffed animals is sweet! ~*~*~*no more cramps for rose~*~*~* oh and tummy lots better, my appetite isn't fully regained but I plan to eat well today. I bought lots of lovely food yesterday including white stilton with mango and ginger - obviously thought of you!

(((mando))) the biggest kvetchie biatch? wink.gif, sounds as if that phonecall did you a lot of good too smile.gif.

funnybird, how's the work going?

no undies as yet, not dressed.

I'm seeing the boy a week today! wooot! he starts the new job on Monday and is visitng his office today, he's currently on train from London to Manchester after his induction. Metting his mum for coffee this afternoon and I may suggest dinner.

(((everyone)))




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anoushh
post Sep 28 2006, 10:05 PM
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PiP, I've been wondering if it is my place to say anything, but my rader went a bit when you said that you were having trouble paying for your wedding b/c you had to pay for something to do with his drinking. I didn't know if you meant you, as in both of you, or what, but it concerned me. It also concerned me that I didn't get any sense of him being profoundly sorry at the impact of his behaviour on your life and your plans.

I knew it could just be that you didn't mention it--you can't mention everything here--but it did concern me.

What you are saying now concerns me, too. This sounds like some seriously slippery slope problem behaviour. I know this is a terrible time to have this be happening, and maybe you'll hate me for saying this but I'm concerned. I've had a relationship with someone who, during the time I knew him, went from what might be called "problem drinking" to definitely alcoholic. Frankly, whatever you called it, none of it was fun. And there were always lots of apologies after, I can't live without yous, etc, but you know what? There always is. It doesn't mean anything is going to change.

The fact that he is drinking when he promised to be DD, when there's clearly been some serious repercussions not so long ago from his drinking, that he acted like a jerk when drunk--this is all incredibly worrisome to me.

If this is how he's behaving now, what happens after you get married? Does he take any responsibility at all for the consequences of his actions when drinking, or is there always an excuse.

You don't have to answer any of this, of course. You don't have to reply on here, or you can. And again, I"m sorry if this seems totally inappropriate considering the timing and everything, but you are a nice person and you don't deserve this shit. I think he needs to realize this is SERIOUS.
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