[i_am_jan]

I like Obama, was probably going to vote for him.

But ooh... I didn't like it when he pulled out Hillary's chair for her at the table the other day. Blatantly condescending, cocky & arrogant what was that was. did you all see that?

It made me feel like he wasn't catering to my vote. He was playing to his male voters. As usual, same ol, same ol.

His facade fell away for me in that moment.

He busted a very, very, very status quo move. that's not change, my friend.

Screw it I'm voting for Hillary no matter what. this country needs shaped up in a way that definitely involves a woman president ~ for me anyway. I think I'm going to 'GO WITH WHAT I KNOW' this time girls.

[culturehandy]

I remember when Belinda Stronach was running to be leader of the Conservative Party of Canada, and the media was reporting on the cutesie little outfits she was wearing, and people were calling into radio shows saying the same sexist things. It was disgusting.

a vagina does not preclude you from politics! Though some feel that way. Morons.

[kittenb]

I don't want people to think I'm a manhating lesbian

A little off-topic but can I just say that sometimes I am a "guy-hating" feminist and proud of it? It is the "guy culture" that seems to feed all of the problems. Men, I love.

[hellotampon]

Hey tampon, how about:
you shave?! How can you call yourself a feminist?

excellent!

I guess I could also add, "you're not voting for hillary? but she's a woman!"

[faerietails2]

Saudis Arrest, Strip Search Woman for Having a Business Meeting With a Man

WTF?!

grenadine, all the shit about Hillary's gender has pissed me off too. i was keeping track of a lot of it for a while because i thought it would be awesome to write a paper (or a book, considering all the bullshit there is!) about the media and sexism in this election. it's ridiculous.

[grenadine]

for me, this whole democratic primary has become a source of feminst outrage because of how much (negative) has been made of Clinton's gender. whomever you support, you've got to be disgusted at things like hecklers yelling "iron my shirt" at her. Robin Morgan wrote a piece on it that pretty much sums it up: http://www.womensmediacenter.com/ex/020108.html

[deschatsrouge]

Hey tampon, how about:
you shave?! How can you call yourself a feminist?

[hellotampon]

I don't really know where to put this. I feel like making a Feminist Bingo game for some of my friends and I've thought of these:

I believe in equality, etc, but I'm not a feminist
But I like men!
I like being a woman!
But I like wearing pink/flirting/etc
We're equal now
I don't want people to think I'm a manhating lesbian
I don't want men and women to be the same
I don't think women should be better than men
I'm a humanist/my own name/some other label
sometimes one sex is just better at certain things than the other and I accept that

any suggestions?

[hoosierman78]

I can't even begin to express my contempt for this piece of shit Marine. First, he rapes another Marine, then the 'brass' try to get her to drop it. When she won't, he kills her while she is 8-1/2 months pregnant in an apparently extremely brutal manner. The chicken shit mother fucker then gives a note to his wife, so she can give it to authorities to let them know where he burried the bodies. I am all for innocent until proven guilty, but if he actually did what all evidence that is currently being released indicates he did, I hope someone finds him, cuts off his dick & balls, then makes him eat them. After that, turn him over to the young woman's family. In the end, I guess a needle in the arm will have to suffice, but one can imagine, right. Here is the latest link on the story, with the area sherriff urging the chicken shit mother fucker to turn himself in.

[ambersienna mari...]

nice quote.

I can't stand clinton. She slips in the polls then o, wait, tears!
just seemed like a pub stunt.
they all seem... fake.
and i know i'm insanely jaded, but big corps just buy off the govt. anyway.
beh.

[crinoline]

good link candycane girl!
"Women's inferiority - in fact, their malevolence - is as ingrained in American popular culture as it is anywhere they're sporting burkas," wrote Buffy the Vampire Slayer creator Joss Whedon on a website recently. "I find it in movies, I hear it in the jokes of colleagues, I see it plastered on billboards... Women are weak, manipulative, somehow morally unfinished. The logical extension of this line of thinking is that women are expendable... There is a staggering imbalance in the world that we all just take for granted."
...Amen.

[banshee]

i think she handled the thing really well.

although, on the daily show, they showed a clip of an interview with some republican/conservative pundit (can't remember who) who claims that she won new hampshire because she faked tears and the women voters felt sorry for her. someone else said something to the effect of "the ice queen's melting."

nice way to discredit a woman's success.

[pollystyrene]

Farking double post!

[pollystyrene]

Gawd, I can't believe John Edwards would say that. As a politician, I believe it, but as a person who seems as nice as he does....does he say his wife isn't strong when she cries about having cancer?

ETA: Oops, that wasn't supposed to post yet. Read the article about the hecklers- good to hear she actually addressed them rather than just smiling robotically through it and ignoring them.

[banshee]

i'm sure the response is going to vary between media outlets. NPR is definately going to portray her in a more positive light than some of the other networks. ABC interviewed edwards about her response and he said something to effect of the country needing a "strong" leader... as if you can't be a woman with emotion and be a strong leader. she has such a reputation as an ice queen, you would think that her display would help her to that effect, but then, we all saw what happened to howard dean.

it sounds like at the same rally she was heckled by men screaming "iron my shirt!" how astoundingly original! ::rolls eyes::

its distubring. i'm reading faludi's backlash and its disturbing how many parallels i'm seeing between america in the eighties and america in 2008. all from a book that was written over ten years ago!


i agree with you, pollystyrene, while she's not my favorite, i'll still vote for her if she wins the primary.

[pollystyrene]

Really Banshee? The report I heard (granted, it was NPR) made it seem like she's *finally* showing some real emotion, something voters can identify with. Whether it's more sexist to criticize her for being an emotional woman, or being surprised that she's a woman who shows very little emotion, I don't know.

I'm not a huge fan of her either- I think she's very polarizing and while she may not make as many stupid decisions as Bush did/will continue to make for the next 378 days, 20 hours, 19 minutes and 5 seconds (phew!) I think she'll just end up playing as many political games/backroom deals as just about any of her predecessors.

But I did feel a little bad for her yesterday.

ETA: Just to clarify, if she did become the Democratic nominee, I'd still vote for her, though. It's going to be an interesting election and as long as the Republicans don't win (pretty sure they have a snowball's chance in hell) quite a historic one.

[banshee]

i don't know that this is outrage so much as it is annoyance...

is anyone else utterly annoyed by the predictable response to clinton's emotional display at that interview today?

the media jumped on it so quickly... and already the typical sexist stereotypes are re-emerging to claim that because she is a woman and showed a hint of emotion/vulnerability somehow this makes her less qualified to lead. and you know the other candidates are going to jump on the bandwagon to trash her...

i'm not the hugest fan of clinton... but all this talk irritates me nonetheless.

[culturehandy]

I always use the word douchebag. It's one of my fave's right now.

Kitten, that is a fantastic reposnse from your coworker!!!

[kittenb]

I asked a coworker about the word douchebag once. She was one of the strongest most radical feminists I have ever met and her response was great; "Well, I figure douches are actually really bad for women. So when I call something/someone a douchebag I am saying it is bad for women."
So since then I have used the word prety freely.

As for bitch, I know that I use that word way too often but mostly in play. For example, my best friend and I are pretty mean when we are trying to motivate each other to work out. So calling him a little bitch is not uncommon (I swear I do love my best friend very much.) However, when a guy really upsets me I try not to use the word bitch as it is considered a female term and I don't like the idea that calling a man a woman is an insult.

[yess]

I have been noticing an increase in the use of the word "douchebag". I'm just wondering why? Isn't it kind of an offensive word? I know why I don't use it and it's because I think about what a douchebag is and I don't think it's right to call somebody that. I was having a convo with an ex the other day and he kept calling someone a bitch and finally I said "Can you please stop with the name-calling?" and he said "Well, I use names for guys, too." to which I replied "Oh yeah? Like what?" and he exclaimed "DOUCHEBAG!!" I informed him that almost all of his name-calling words had a direct representation of women and that is not right. But anyway, the word seems to be preety poplular among men and women alike so I was wondering if I was missing something? Is douchebag a good thing?