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demoness
post May 18 2006, 10:04 AM
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"We are all guilty of sin but we are all not forgiven." But why would the lord preach forgiveness if he wont forgive us? I believe if your heart is in the right place, you shall be granted forgiveness. Hardly anyone is "without sin". So that being said, i believe that god will never shun you away or forsake you no matter how bad or fallen. I mean religion is so taboo these days that if you actually have any spirituality youre labelled religious. I hardly consider myself religous at all. Fallen is more like it. I have a very objective mind when it comes to religion. I just cant "blindly" believe. I feel, rather. Phew. Im glad i got that off my chest, considering ive a hard time discussing religion. Seriously its such a touchy subject.:-)
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nohope
post Jan 13 2008, 10:14 PM
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For me it's not a question of religion, as much as a question of basic assumptions of how dose my partner make decisions. That for me is a deal breaker, primarily because for me a relationship is a business proposition. If my partner makes bad decisions that will affect my life...

So therefore belief with out evidence for me is out. I have no problem with someone praying so long as they understand that prayer does not work and that they are just fooling themselves.

Which is ok in my book because our mental state can create "a self fulfilling prophecy." If we can psych our selves out in a negative way, we can do the same in a positive way.

We can also get benefits from controlling our thoughts and minds. i.e. meditation, and for some people that is called prayer.

So I am not against using psychological tricks in order to gain benefits....
But when that crosses the line from purposeful self-delusion to create a potential benefit, to straight out delusion beyond reason and evidence.... well that is going to be trouble...

And I suggest that everyone can benefit from steering clear both of living a life full of superstitions and of living with other people’s superstitious lives. Because when people hold superstitions, then no amount of reason can save them from making poor decisions based on bad information, which is beyond challenge.

There is not greater cause of evil in this world in my opinion than bad information held as an article of faith.
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demoness   Too Much Religion For Me To Handle   May 18 2006, 10:04 AM
alligator   Too Much Religion For Me To Handle   May 18 2006, 01:42 PM
demoness   Too Much Religion For Me To Handle   May 18 2006, 02:35 PM
smurfin   Too Much Religion For Me To Handle   May 18 2006, 03:00 PM
demoness   Too Much Religion For Me To Handle   May 18 2006, 03:24 PM
smurfin   Too Much Religion For Me To Handle   May 18 2006, 03:52 PM
nohope   Too Much Religion For Me To Handle   May 18 2006, 09:17 PM
smurfin   Too Much Religion For Me To Handle   May 19 2006, 03:56 AM
snafooey   Too Much Religion For Me To Handle   May 19 2006, 06:15 AM
alligator   Too Much Religion For Me To Handle   May 19 2006, 12:04 PM
nohope   Too Much Religion For Me To Handle   May 24 2006, 07:16 PM
nereid   Too Much Religion For Me To Handle   May 24 2006, 09:09 PM
lunia666   Hope am posting this in the right place ?? Do you...   Dec 27 2007, 05:56 PM
faerietails2   You're a jackass.   Jan 13 2008, 11:30 PM
konphusion26   Spirituality and faith are very important to me in...   Jan 14 2008, 02:26 PM
faerietails2   I'm a devout atheist, and ideally i'd love...   Jan 15 2008, 01:29 PM
konphusion26   I'm a devout atheist, and ideally i'd love...   Jan 15 2008, 02:25 PM
nickclick   LOL I see. I don't think anyone should try to...   Jan 16 2008, 09:08 PM
pepper   meh, religion has always been a pain in the ass to...   Jan 16 2008, 11:17 PM
konphusion26   I'm not hatin ladies...just wanted some clarit...   Jan 16 2008, 11:27 PM
kittenb   So therefore belief with out evidence for me is ou...   Jan 17 2008, 08:03 AM
nohope   See I have met more than one militant atheist in m...   Jan 18 2008, 12:17 PM
pepper   hey, no disrespect intended. those are just my tho...   Jan 17 2008, 08:48 AM
crazyoldcatlady   what specifically about being religious or havin...   Jan 17 2008, 05:12 PM
nickclick   no hatin' here either, kon :) i agree pepper,...   Jan 17 2008, 05:17 PM
konphusion26   You know ladies, it gives me great joy to answer y...   Jan 17 2008, 05:58 PM
nickclick   konphusion, i agree with cocl, thanks for your ope...   Jan 19 2008, 08:18 AM
pepper   konphusion, i agree with cocl, thanks for your ope...   Jan 19 2008, 05:43 PM
faerietails2   Personally, I was raised Catholic, and it absolute...   Jan 17 2008, 07:05 PM
auralpoison   Yeah, it's weird. I'm an atheist, too. M...   Jan 17 2008, 07:59 PM
pepper   ppfftt! funny girls. you know, my mom has be...   Jan 17 2008, 10:22 PM
konphusion26   Interesting that I'm seeing alot of people her...   Jan 17 2008, 10:45 PM
auralpoison   Um, where does it say we can't eat meat, Peppe...   Jan 17 2008, 10:46 PM
beck   interesting discussion of food rules - maybe one o...   Jan 18 2008, 04:48 AM
pepper   http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?searc......   Jan 18 2008, 08:12 AM
katiebelle2882   those quotes do not specifically say "do not ...   Jan 18 2008, 12:07 PM
pepper   sure, it doesn't say what Not to eat but it do...   Jan 18 2008, 02:28 PM
sexysandee   I have never been anyone to judge anyone based on ...   Jan 18 2008, 02:49 PM
crazyoldcatlady   khonphusion, i appreciate your discussion. it...   Jan 18 2008, 02:49 PM
konphusion26   I understand what you're saying sister. I love...   Jan 18 2008, 03:37 PM
kittenb   Even if I didnt love Him back. He's a Father t...   Jan 19 2008, 10:40 AM
konphusion26   Thanks chickies! I just wanted to share and be...   Jan 20 2008, 10:03 PM
yess   I just found this crazy article about a Baptist ch...   Jan 28 2008, 05:43 PM
konphusion26   I just found this crazy article about a Baptist ch...   Jan 28 2008, 06:00 PM
kittenb   There is no more dangerous place than between Fuck...   Jan 28 2008, 05:57 PM
pollystyrene   Fred Phelps speaks for no god that I can think of....   Jan 29 2008, 10:29 AM
nickclick   isn't is sacreligious for a preacher or whatev...   Jan 29 2008, 10:22 AM
beck   i thought they lost that lawsuit and were gonna be...   Jan 29 2008, 10:33 AM
kittenb   Thanks Polly. The look on Phelps face when the Sod...   Jan 29 2008, 12:20 PM
pixiedust   Konfusion, I'm glad to see someone in here tha...   Jan 29 2008, 02:05 PM
konphusion26   Konfusion, I'm glad to see someone in here tha...   Jan 29 2008, 03:28 PM
pixiedust   I totally agree. I just joined a new church and i...   Jan 29 2008, 03:46 PM
tankgirl   its refreshing to see people comfortable with talk...   Jan 29 2008, 05:05 PM
konphusion26   SORRY FOR BEING A THREAD HOG LADIES!!...   Jan 29 2008, 06:19 PM
minx   I don't agree with them picketing the man...   Jan 29 2008, 09:31 PM
faerietails2   If deconstructed, Pascal's Wager is nothing mo...   Feb 6 2008, 03:04 PM
girltrouble   while i agree with most of what you said, minx, i...   Jan 30 2008, 12:18 AM
candycane_girl   I just wanted to come in here and give my two cent...   Jan 30 2008, 08:02 AM
roseviolet   Minx, who knew a death rattle could sound so ... s...   Jan 30 2008, 08:15 AM
crazyoldcatlady   this whole discussion just reminds me of Dogma (be...   Jan 30 2008, 05:06 PM
SpRiNkLeS   Hi Konphusion! Hey girlie, how’s everything?...   Feb 2 2008, 04:07 AM
konphusion26   SPRINKLES, my friend!!!! Hey sweet...   Feb 3 2008, 07:23 PM
pixiedust   I've been thinking about this thread a lot sin...   Feb 4 2008, 08:54 AM
konphusion26   [quote name='pixiedust' post='187393' date='Feb 4 ...   Feb 4 2008, 12:42 PM
sexysandee   I was raised Catholic, but like many I do not go t...   Feb 6 2008, 01:53 PM
dusty   I am astonished at how calculatedly I have been sh...   Feb 7 2008, 10:15 AM
minx   How did you get shafted, Dusty (this is Metagrrrl,...   Feb 7 2008, 10:33 AM
dusty   Hi Minx! Its kind of like a factory moving to...   Feb 7 2008, 02:14 PM
konphusion26   Hey hey busties.. this thread has been pretty quie...   Feb 19 2008, 11:37 AM
minx   Well, my dad told me last night that he thinks tea...   Feb 20 2008, 07:22 PM
pollystyrene   They can teach creationism in schools when we can ...   Feb 20 2008, 07:29 PM
konphusion26   Well, happy hump day LOL Ummmm That isnt a debate ...   Feb 20 2008, 08:31 PM
minx   I rather think there is no debate. From Wiki: ...   Feb 21 2008, 05:42 AM
beck   i don't get it. I thought the US constitution...   Feb 21 2008, 02:11 PM
crazyoldcatlady   interesting take on homophobia in the church and i...   Feb 21 2008, 08:53 PM
beck   http://www.godhatesshrimp.com/ this is a good...   Feb 22 2008, 03:53 AM
konphusion26   Jesus rocks! That is all...   Feb 25 2008, 06:45 PM
faerietails2   "I never understand people who buy into the i...   Feb 25 2008, 07:47 PM
beck   no dinosaurs! *snigger* i just find it weird ...   Feb 26 2008, 07:58 AM
konphusion26   Don't want this lovely thread to disappear :b...   Mar 16 2008, 12:13 AM
crazyoldcatlady   i like to lurk, kon, but i don't have much to ...   Mar 16 2008, 08:48 AM
dj-bizmonkey   here's a link if y'all want to watch the d...   Mar 16 2008, 04:12 PM
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dj-bizmonkey   and what exactly would those beliefs be, konphusio...   Mar 18 2008, 12:34 PM
konphusion26   Let's see how to put this.... I am in no way s...   Mar 18 2008, 04:14 PM
nickclick   konphusion, what do you mean by "used to be...   Mar 19 2008, 05:13 AM
neurotic.nelly   Let's see how to put this.... I am in no way s...   Mar 19 2008, 07:17 AM
konphusion26   Oh boy here we go.... We will still agree to disag...   Mar 19 2008, 12:04 PM
beck   not had time to look at the video from bizmonkey b...   Mar 19 2008, 12:40 PM
dj-bizmonkey   agree to disagree, indeed. i do respect the way in...   Mar 19 2008, 12:53 PM
konphusion26   yes, agree to disagree. i know that people in your...   Mar 19 2008, 02:01 PM
dj-bizmonkey   konphusion, even though i don't agree with you...   Mar 19 2008, 03:00 PM
zoya   **de-lurks** I lurk in this thread a lot - I fin...   Mar 19 2008, 04:26 PM
dj-bizmonkey   well i hope nobody flames you for THAT zoya, your ...   Mar 19 2008, 05:25 PM
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zoya   **de-lurks, just one more quick time** OMG, I soo...   Mar 19 2008, 08:59 PM
roseviolet   Just wanted to say that I freakin' loooooooove...   Mar 19 2008, 09:34 PM
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