[demoness]

"We are all guilty of sin but we are all not forgiven." But why would the lord preach forgiveness if he wont forgive us? I believe if your heart is in the right place, you shall be granted forgiveness. Hardly anyone is "without sin". So that being said, i believe that god will never shun you away or forsake you no matter how bad or fallen. I mean religion is so taboo these days that if you actually have any spirituality youre labelled religious. I hardly consider myself religous at all. Fallen is more like it. I have a very objective mind when it comes to religion. I just cant "blindly" believe. I feel, rather. Phew. Im glad i got that off my chest, considering ive a hard time discussing religion. Seriously its such a touchy subject.:-)

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konphusion, i hope you stay. this is a forum for discussion so it's okay to disagree. it's only no good when someone attacks and i don't think that's happened, nor do i hope it does. besides, i admire you for coming in and being open.

like beck, i have a hard time being open to something because 'the bible says so' or that's the 'word from god.' the bible is so vaguely written (and translated) and has been historically interpreted in a million ways. so it's logical to think that any reader would interpret it based on their prejudices, or follow a church that has interpreted it to fit their needs in some part of history. such as, like cocl brings up, catholicism's tight grip on patriarchy. if the pope suddenly says, it's okay for women to become priests, they'll have to re-interpret that part of the bible that says women are only good as baby-making machines. if they admit they were mistaken, their worst fear will happen... their believers will start to question everything.