[turbojenn]

Onna - you didn't miss anything in the first epi, except for Tyra being even more obnoxious than she normally is.

ggg - you are SO right - Jada totally looks like Prince now...actually more masculine than prince I think...she's got one strong jawline...and I do love the shorter hair on her.

I think I would like the show a lot more if they got rid of mr. jay and Tyra...the two of them, even worse, the two of them together, make me not want to watch.

monique is crazy...it'll be fun to see her get taken down.

[Onna-Otaku]

I absolutley could not believe all the bitching that was going on about the makeovers. Usually its one or two girls crying or whining about it, but this season, almost every girl flipped out about it. The only one who I didn't see complaining was Anchal, and she had to have her head threaded. I have no idea how that is acomplished, but it sounds like it hurt like hell. And I didn't hear her complain at all, even about the pain really. Compare that to (I think it was monique) someone saying. "I'm irritated that their not doing much to my hair"
Newsflash, girls. You are a model now. YOU ARE A HUMAN DOLL. These people say jump, you say how high. They say we're going to shave your head like andre agassi, and you smile and say thank you. They want to push you into the most uncomfortable corset ever for a picture, You pretend like its a pair of sweats. It's degrading, it's distgusting, and it's uncomfortable. That is the life of a starting model. You're the one who signed up for it.
All right, I'm done ranting about it. Sorry. It's just the people on the show do know what's best for their careers, and I can't believe that they'd whine so much about it.
That was so disgusting when monique splashed someting from under her towel on someones face (Melrose?). If that girl complained enough, she could get kicked, because that can spread disease ::gags::

I missed the first episode. Is there anything important that I missed? Whats with the twins? are they like running together or seperate or what?

[ambercherry]

" you're a Princess of the Throne and don't let them tell you otherwise."...as in maybe the toilet? no, ha ha, that's juvenile...but then again, so is her behaviour.

i love the twins, and i think their pictures were gorgeous last night. not typically gorgeous, but very artfully so. i think they'll make it pretty far (and yes, i agree with some of you who said they would just for the twin factor). anchal, too, i wouldn't be surprised if she makes it far.

i was surprised at aj's reaction to her hair last night, too, i did not expect that from her. other than jaeda's makeover, i didn't find any of the makeovers that extreme. i wish they would have done more, but oh well. i loved megan's platinum hair and am sad that she went home.

i wish this show was one more than once a week. a week's too long for this addiction...

[freckleface2727]

I think jada looks like Prince now, really. and after her whole " they can do anything to me, even shave my head" arogant crap I think it's just what she deserves.

monique. Mama :" you're a Princess of the Throne and don't let them tell you otherwise."
BAAAAARF!! what a bitch!
I loved that Anchal came in finally & stood up to her, trying to disconnect the phone and yelling at her bc megan needed the phone to call her landlord. if Anchal would put some of that fire into letting her personality show to the judges when she speaks to them (bc her photo was already amazing) I think they'd like her better.

megan. I didn't see that coming. no, I didn't necc think she'd win, but I did think she'd make it farther.
I thought her last photo looked like natalie maines from the dixie chicks & had a sort of '60's pin up sexiness.
and I LOVE her hair.


ok, we're 2 epi's in, what are your predictions?

I'm going to say that top 5 will be Anchal, 1 of the twins, cari dee, maybe melrose and ..? aj I guess, tho I really really didn't like her last shot as it made her nose look huge & her eyes kinda doopey.
this season still doesn't have the standouts like the others to me yet, maybe it's too soon.

[wombat]

Right with ya, girlygirlgag!

I wonder if they recruit onlygirls who have never seen the show before.

Uh, duh, when you are a model you will be naked in front of other people, have people change your hair, make up and walk, and wear weird clothes in weird settings.

Monique -- yeah, people can't really get away with that stuff for long. The reason the girls are hesitating to fight back is that it is a work situation, if you let the crazy bully bitch drag you down into the same behavior, they may decide to get rid of BOTH of you. It can take a disgustingly long time for them to finally get rid of the person, though.

I did see some encouraging footage of someone slamming a door on her in the preview for next week.

[girlygirlgag]

I was ereally pissed off at those girls after make over!!!! !CRYING?
what a bunch of babies. Even AJ, they changed her SLIGHTLY, for the better. Now she does not
look like some mall goth, hanging out a Hot topic.

Jada looks soooooo much better with short hair. I want Monique TO BURN.

I also wish Jada would have gone home instead of Meghan. Meghan put way more effort into this than Jada.

[freckleface2727]

weds is MakeOver day!!

and it looks like there is a lot of prima donna hissy's over what they want to do- Again.

but I guess that just coolness wouldn't create higher ratings?

[curioushair]

A.J. is my default favorite for now. The hair reminds me a lot of Shane from The L Word. (Not a bad thing!)

The twins have that mid-to-late nineties post-waif thing going on. Their anorexia/bulimia shots were stunning, but their look is limited--too bone-thin and wan-- and outdated. I doubt Cover Girl wants a sickly looking spokesmodel. I agree, twins=gimmicky.

[maimy]

Anna, yes - the day Victoria's Secret is haute couture is the day Paris Hilton has class. Oy gevault.

The reason the girl whose mom died looks familiar (Megan) is she is KIM'S CLONE. She seems less annoying, though.

A.J. is exquisite. Love that black hair.

I think Anchal is pretty, but I know ten Asian Indian women IRL who are devastatingly more beautiful than she is. I like her spirit. But I don't find her face arresting in and of itself, actually. What's behind it will make the difference, and I get the feeling she has a little something going on.

I thought the twins were terribly wan, sorry to everyone who digs 'em. Until the bulimia photo, I was just bored - they only got picked for kitch. Which one of them is the one who was SUCH A BITCH to her sister, though? Huge turn off. The whole "riding my coat tails" and "you're ruining the joke" shit. I can't help but think it was the one who took the drab-assed anorexia photo, whereas the one who was supposed to be "just along for the ride" is kicking her ass already. Ugh ... sibling drama.

Monique is a bore, because she's a mere case of been there-done that. *Yawn* At least if you must posture as Teh Bitch, have good (or "baaaaaaaad") posture. Boring as the devil.

[wombat]

You can't be shy about being naked as a model, because in the back room of the runway shows, they're all changing clothes in front of each other and in front of men, photographers and whatever, or some stylist is pulling on your shirt while someone else does your shoes.

I think what Tyra meant about the difference between strippers and models is that models have to maintain a more difficult grooming regimen and weight requirements, work during the day, and project a lot of different moods and personalities somewhat like an actress. They have to think about their body in space and whether their nose is casting a shadow on their chin, rather than just, look at me shaking my boobies.

You could argue that some strippers have these concerns as well, but more by individual choice -- unlike modeling, it's not an essential part of the job description. Also, drinking is frowned upon in modeling, and they work better by day, etc.

I mean, if they are really trying to say models are never bitchy or starving themselves or partying or sleeping around -- good luck to them!! But as they pointed out last year, they don't want it goiing on during a shoot due to big $$$, versus the strippers hustling drinks and being less inhibited if they're effed up.

Ya know?

What is up with Tyra this season? She looks frumpled. That dress she wore during the judging at the end looked like a bathrobe with tit pads. The brits have a wonderful word for it: "mumsy"

[mouse]

well, arguably, stripping is done for titillation and modeling (unless you're modeling in a porn mag) is to sell stuff. but yeah, who is miss tyra to rise above strippers? blech.

i'm with ggg and megan, i have a disproportionately large ribcage. but then again, if i had the rest of megan's body, i really wouldn't care.

i didn't like ginger. "i'm going to stick to my morals!" except, uh, you didn't, and you still got kicked off.

i think my favorite was a.j. even though she seemed to be trying to play up the "insecurity" factor as her selling point. and i thought it was pretty exploitative the way megan brought up her awful plane crash. and i think tyra has terrifying hair and is ridiculously self-obsessed.

melrose does look really old. i don't think any of them are very pretty; the ones who are pretty are kind of "off" too--the rocker girl has bad posture, and the backstabbing blonde has a kind of lopsided, sunken jaw look. anchal looks like a statue or a plastic mannequin. gorgeous, but unnaturally so.

it's terribly fun to nitpick girls who are considered light years more beautiful than i'll ever hope to be.

i thought the bulimia and anorexia photos were cheap shots, and tasteless. they treat these ilnesses the same way they treat a drug habit, whereas it's more similar to telling someone "pose like you have cancer. pose like you've got down's syndrome".

[anna k]

I love how the girls freak about posing nude, like they haven't seen the show before. And ANTM's version of posing nude usually involves covering up their female parts and wearing butt-long extensions to look like Venus in the half-shell.

Yeah, that army wife was lame. She was all, "I sacrificed so much to be here" and I'm all, "Yeah, YER KIDS! Go home to them!!"

Or Amanda the half-blind chick who wanted to be a model yet was going blind in a few years and wanted to remember seeing her baby boy's face.

I liked Ginger, I wanted her to go on.

Tyra: "Stripping isn't the same as modeling." What makes Tyra strutting down the Victoria's Secret runway in her underwear different from a girl strutting on the pole in her panties? Is it because it's haute couture and classy?

[girlygirlgag]

Meghan has my probelm, larger rib cage. It makes bathing suits look weird.

[freckleface2727]

I agree w/ no favorites yet, altho a few of them have suprised me by photographing/NOT photographing better/worse than I expected. the twins (or un) looked to me about straight off the potatoe truck, but then both pulled off the 'heroine chic' look w/ both their sets.

was ginger the right winger who didn't want to pose nude?
she looks like a blond rose mcgowan and tho I didn't want to like her, I do think she's pretty.

as for ms army wife.
y'all know I AM an army wife and lemme tell you.. at first I was like " WOW! Cool!"
not only that she is married ( she is the first ever?) but that she made it on the show.
but her lame ass line of how much SHE was sacrificing.. um, isn't it your husband who is sweating his balls off in the heat of Iraq while people shoot at him and he assumed you were staying home to take care of His Kids? or I don't know, maybe he's got the whole damn us army behind her and she's some sort of pin up wet dream for his unit.. either way, NEXT!

the Indian girl; I keep flip flopping on is she stunning or isn't she?
her mouth bugs me. if you notice whe she is unsure of what is going on, she holds it funny, but then her pictures were amazing.

I love meghan's super short hair, but don't think she has a very good body.

I don't know, it's just too soon.

[misspissed]

Yeah, that army wife was lame. She was all, "I sacrificed so much to be here" and I'm all, "Yeah, YER KIDS! Go home to them!!"

agreed, greenbean! she was so annoying.

no real favorites for me, either.

[greenbean]

Yeah, that army wife was lame. She was all, "I sacrificed so much to be here" and I'm all, "Yeah, YER KIDS! Go home to them!!"

I thought it was funny that some girls were shocked at the nude shoot. Its like, You want to be a model?! Have you never opened a Vogue?! Or seen ANTM?! Of course yer gonna be asked to take yer clothes off.
I did think Ginger was pretty tho. She looked like the dumb one in Mean Girls.

The funniest part is that they gave all that pampering to Melrose and told her she was 'diva for a day', then they lambasted her, saying, 'you better get rid of that diva attitude'. HA!! They TOLD her to be a diva!!
Not that I like her but I did feel bad for her!

No favorite yet...

[girlygirlgag]

They usually don't do the makeovers until the thrid or fourth episode. I think it looks more polished becaue there is more people contending and more money coming in.

Also, (I worked BRIEFLY as a modeling scout) there is a difference between high fashion and catalogue modeling. A lot of girls, who are *prettier* are not as compelling in pictures of high fashion, but look perfect for a Macy's ad. Like the beautiful Indian girl who made it, Tyra keeps telling her to watch her poses, or she is going to look "too catalogue". For instance, I don't think the twins are stunning at all, but the picture of Michelle in the bullemia ad, was exquisite! Is she keeps photographing like that, she will be hard to beat. She was kind of a natural.

Then there are the Yohana House models that can do anything, not because they are stunning, but they *know* how to model.

I thought the army wife looked trashy, and needed a hair cut.

[free_spirit]

This open episode was a let down for me. But the previews for the upcoming shows seems like it will get better. For me, I think Tyra didn't pick the "pretty" models (Jaselyn and the mother who had the husband in Iraq) and also for sending home the first girl...It seemed like she picked girls who she thought had low self esteem, or weren't as pretty as is (IMO)...She loves to exploit people...Just like on the Tyra show...And Monique (from Chicago) she did a 180 as soon as she got in the house...She is so fake, I guess she is the "bitch" of the season...(I wonder if the producers always say there has to be one) and I'm shocked Eugena, whose bed she took let it go down...I cant wait to see the makeovers and was expecting it in the open episode...As far as the twins, we've already seen something similar on 8th & Ocean...not impressed...I don't think both or one will win the title...Ok, thats my recap...

[taligator]

Wow! This season seemed so polished! I think those girls did better at their first shoots than some of the other seasons at the END of the season. It felt like they'd all either been practicing runway walk or had some coaching because they all did really well. I may not have liked the style that they walked but it wasn't bumbling or bad.

It looks like most have a fashion clue as well and we won't get so many 'Duh' moments.

AJ is my fave but that's because she reminds me of Yoanna ..

Overall it was good. I'm looking forward to watching it. I think that Monique is going to be the one to watch out for in attitude but unlike Jade, she hasn't done well on her photos so she may not last long.

The concept of the twins is cool and it's interesting that one just came along for the ride and is doing better than the other. I wonder how much drama will revolve around their relationship with each other.

[girlygirlgag]

Yeah for my favorite guilty pleasure!!!

Pssst, GGG--the show is on the new CW channel, you dont need cable.

I found it, but in Cinci, it has no "official" home yet, so they hijack the infomercial channel, and I have very basic cable, but you cannot watch the CW without cable or a digital TV because they are not running it on analog.

I would have torn Monique apart for the bed thing and the "I take an hour long shower, deal with it" attitude.

The twin in the bullemia shot was Michelle. the other is Amanda.

I hate Monique. I like the girl wiuth the short hair. So cute.