[culturehandy]

Apparently the RCMP has called him and advised the signs could be considered hate speach and hate crime and they can apprehend them. Some were stopped at the border, but the spokesperson said there were some already here and insinuated that people were smuggled in via fedex truck

[mornington]

AP - I figured. In the uk "preaching hate" is a crime, but I have to wonder if he'd get arrested here (so far the only arrests have been for muslim clerics preaching pro-jihad "kill the western infidel" style crap, apparently spewing homophobia isn't hateful enough) although we have the same right to assembly.

Personally, I don't know how one person can be so full of hatred, but that's just me.

I don't know why, but this triggered a memory from today: I heart Stonewall's new ad campaign. It just makes me smile every time.

[vixen_within]

Every time I hear his spew of hate I turn just a little bit more Gay.

snort

i'd forgotten about phelps & his sadistic christians - i must have blocked their existence out of my consciousness. they're so full of shit it's unbelievable. like, they're coming all the way up here now? guess they're not getting the rise they're looking for back home anymore.

[deschatsrouge]

Every time I hear his spew of hate I turn just a little bit more Gay.

[bunnyb]

Go ahead and drink the kool aid.

[kittenb]

Fuckhead Phelps is a great example of someone with a clear mental illness whom I have no sympathies for. He is a total waste of oxygen and flesh that all Americans should apologize for.

[auralpoison]

They won't get arrested. I don't know about Canada, but our first amendment covers their right to peaceable assembly. The places that have passed laws (Indiana, Michigan, South Dakota, Illionois, several local Kansas communities.) basically say that they must remain 500ft back from funeral services. This the trailer for the documentary "Fall From Grace". The final part of the film is footage of them protesting at a soldier's funeral (His wife, friends, family.) & how their message is foiled by some bikers.

Of all the reason to be ashamed of Kansas, it's the worst. Sorry people.

[mornington]

oh cod. I hope they get arrested. those people are fucking horrible

[culturehandy]

Ooooh, our city has the honour of having the Phelps assholes protesting at funeral of the victim of the greyhound bus incident.

[culturehandy]

I just love how these spineless useless motherfuckers always off themselves after so they can't face the fuckin' music.

[auralpoison]

Something in the water, indeed.

[girltrouble]

copy cat.

that is fucked up. there has got to be something in the air or water or whatever. this train has gone off the rails.

[auralpoison]

The fuck is up with people lately?

[culturehandy]

AP, I agree, that without any psychiatrist actually examining this man, one can't jump to conclusions. But, I'm still leaning towards mental health.

Here's the latest article from the free press.

[girltrouble]

i might agree with you if he just killed the guy that, and the mowing down people at the office thing. sure, you don't have to look far to find that sort of thing. but this-- the decapitation, and the showing people once he got off the bus-- that's a very intimate relationship with death, with the body. most people who lose it due to stress only kill people they know very well (their family, etc), at this close range. and only because they are trying ease them of some imagined future pain, or some imagined slight. this was neither. he did not know the man, but killed him in a very close, brutal, bloody way, which to my mind is something very different.

that said, two people i know who see schizophrenics every day-- culture and mr. trouble, concur. they both came to the same conclusion without hesitation. to me, it seems clear, but as a general rule i tend to withold judgement till the facts are in much as you, aural.

[auralpoison]

Like I've said twice, I don't doubt that something is/was seriously wrong with this guy. But I'm not ready to jump on the blame train with little but conjecture & armchair psychiatry from the media. The most I'm getting (I scanned some Youtube for Canadian tv, too.) is that his wife said he had the odd habit of just disappearing for days at a time & that he lied about it. Then some therapist *that hasn't even met the man* said that it could be an example of "Greyhound therapy". Then there are some unidentified people "close to the family" &/or in the "healthcare field" telling the media that he was "troubled" & "a lost soul" & that they had hearsay about a single incident of paranoia.

Being a bit of a murder-junkie, I can list several people that exhibited no signs of being homicidal, but went batshit crazy for some reason anyway. Stress or shame, usually.

[girltrouble]

i don't think there can be any doubt that he's schizo. even if you're topped off, you don't just attack people unprovoked on a bus and cut their heads off, showing people outside the bus. that shit is just too fucked up. no he wasn't just pushed to the limit, he was ill way, way before that.

and i blame reagan too. i know he's canadian, but the canadian gov't does watch what we do down here and sees what they can get away with. reagan. if i could i'd piss on his corpse.



ETA: is anyone else following this fucked up anthrax case....
how anyone can live in this country and not become a conspiracy theorist is beyond me.

[erinjane]

I'm surprised papers elsewhere haven't been talking about his mental health. It was all over the front page of the Winnipeg Free Press a few days after it happened that there were suspician's he's schizophrenic.

[auralpoison]

See, I've just had Canadian newspapers to go on & have yet to see anything in them today about his mental health. Obviously something wasn't/isn't right, & I'm sure the appropriate authorities will do what needs to be done. I just don't want to jump to any conclusions about why this might have gone down.

[culturehandy]

The news here was talking about his mental health. He didn't go out and get treatment. With that said, the Crown has asked for a psych assesment on this man.