Sep 23 2007, 08:45 PM
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![]() Hardcore BUSTie ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 109 From: New Orleans |
The following is a 3 minute intro to what this is about, I suggest watching it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuoiZnr4jLY The below is just a story of my Friday night and how it relates to The Jena Six: So there I am, enjoying my original martini (gin, sweet vermouth, a hit of orange bitters, lemon twist) and a bloke sits next to me at the bar. It's a hotel bar and so I'm figuring he isn't from here. I'm a social cat and so I ask what he's in town for. He says he came down for the Jena Six. I was immediately pleased to meet his aquaintance. I told him my roommates and neighbors went to the rally, and asked him what he thought of the turn-out for it. He was happy with it but emphasized there's still a ways to go. From then on we discussed my dissapointment with the majority of the white people who are actually from this state, especially those outside of New Orleans. (yes, this email is politically motivated, you can delete it or email me one on one with your dissapointment in me sending it if you'd like, in the end this state has some serious problems) The basis of my disspointment was how I felt the majority of this state's double standards that went on and go on in all the small parishes, and even the three bigger parishes, did nothing but leave us in 2007 by technicality alone...we're surprisingly behind the times...hate and ignorance has bred more hate and ignorance so much so I feel at times I'm living in Jim Crow's retirement home and it's quite simply the most backwards state in the union ...and I'm not talking just the continental United States either. (I seriously think we've got Mississippi beat--and that's just because their bigotry is more sophisticated) Back to the main point of my tale. So myself and the chap next to me are finding ourselves in good company. He told me I shouldn't just accept that I don't like the way things are here and have my views to just sit there at the bar drinking my original martini...that my lazy self should do something productive about it. True, but damn are those martini's tasty. Then a couple people walk into the bar and they flip-out over my new friend. I asked him what was up? He told me he was sort of a celebrity. Really? Well who are you, I say. He said his name was Most Def. Later on I found out he spells it Mos Def. Either way I still didn't know who he was but said, "damn, that's cool...nice talking to you." So yeah, I hang out with Mos Def. We have drinks together at the same bar, we're tight. Check me out. In ending...god bless america. |
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Sep 25 2007, 02:40 PM
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![]() Hardcore BUSTie ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 109 From: New Orleans |
6 kids didn't beat up Barker, 3 did. None the less he was warned the entire time he taunted the black kid (the one beaten up by more than one white person at the preceding party) thru the halls. It was stated on witness accounts by ALL witnesses. It was stated by all witnesses that he was sluring the kid and so how is it shocking he'd get into a "tussle?" He was warned and told to shut his mouth each time he opened it up for racial slurs to exit...getting beaten down is what I call "expected" after that.
All of their parents are just as educated as they are, which is why they're all so uneducated. You can go to school all you want but at the end of the day you go home and dumb down to those who are in your house waiting for you. (yes I know some prevail and are success stories) None of the protests are suggesting those involved in the fight let go scot-free...the point missed is the bullshit that led up to it all and why certain persons were tried at a different level than others...which is why there was a protest. Pretty simple to me. Mr Pugs, you try and suggest the noose thing never built up to anything, neither did the gun "exchange" at the gas station, and the fight at a party prior to...and then I just have to suggest you've missed the plot then. Again, it's all so very simple to me. (tangent time) Best part is the bar where I work is very high-end and upscale--so at work this past Saturday night I just loved the bigoted remarks by the uppity white locals that frequent my restaurant. To actually think none of what went on in that town this past year was racially motivated and biased is to be as sightless as one can get. Yet time and time again that night I overheard their conversations and laughter. This state sucks, simple as. |
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Sep 26 2007, 05:29 AM
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![]() BUSTie ![]() ![]() Posts: 79 From: Delaware, the butthole of america |
6 kids didn't beat up Barker, 3 did. None the less he was warned the entire time he taunted the black kid (the one beaten up by more than one white person at the preceding party) thru the halls. It was stated on witness accounts by ALL witnesses. It was stated by all witnesses that he was sluring the kid and so how is it shocking he'd get into a "tussle?" He was warned and told to shut his mouth each time he opened it up for racial slurs to exit...getting beaten down is what I call "expected" after that. All of their parents are just as educated as they are, which is why they're all so uneducated. You can go to school all you want but at the end of the day you go home and dumb down to those who are in your house waiting for you. (yes I know some prevail and are success stories) None of the protests are suggesting those involved in the fight let go scot-free...the point missed is the bullshit that led up to it all and why certain persons were tried at a different level than others...which is why there was a protest. Pretty simple to me. Mr Pugs, you try and suggest the noose thing never built up to anything, neither did the gun "exchange" at the gas station, and the fight at a party prior to...and then I just have to suggest you've missed the plot then. Again, it's all so very simple to me. I didn't see anywere in my research that there were more than one white person fighting the black kid at the party. Where is your information coming from? Maybe it's an article that I haven't read. The way I understood the party fight was that 5 black kids tried to gain entry to a private party to which they had no invites to. The girl at the door told them they couldn't come in without an invite. They persisted. A white man then told them to leave which they didn't and then a fight ensued. While it may be true that Barker was saying racial slurs against the six, I don't believe that they weren't giving it back. Is it expected that with superior numbers, the six were saying "please, stop saying that, it hurts my feelings"? The gun exchange is a strange one. There were conflicting stories from both sides, so it's really clouded as to what really happened. I just don't understand the mentality of if someone pulled a gun on me, I'll go take it from him. I would've just put their hands up and shut my mouth. After he left, I would've called the cops and asked anyone who saw it to tell the police when they arrived. There are multiple sources that say even though an investigation ensued, the noose incident did not play a role in this fight. Like I said earlier, if you have sources that I haven't seen, please post them. Here's an article to read... http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story/7170510 |
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doxy The Jena Six Sep 23 2007, 08:45 PM
pepper *laughing ass off* most def, hee!
seriously, ... Sep 24 2007, 06:52 AM
tankgirl <3 <3 Mos Def
anyway, the sad reality of t... Sep 24 2007, 06:05 PM
doxy My problem is that you say there will be these inj... Sep 24 2007, 10:20 PM
tankgirl My problem is that you say there will be these inj... Sep 27 2007, 05:46 PM
venetia Anyway it's not true. If there was no real cha... Sep 24 2007, 10:31 PM
doxy Which means what?
Sorry Venetia...don't catch ... Sep 24 2007, 10:32 PM
Mr Pugs The thing that bothers me most about this is the m... Sep 25 2007, 05:18 AM
LoveMyPugs deleted Sep 25 2007, 05:38 AM
faerietails2 There's gonna be a big Jena 6 protest in DC ne... Sep 25 2007, 06:36 AM
Mr Pugs Yeah, but Hank Rollins never claimed to be a civil... Sep 25 2007, 06:52 AM
LoveMyPugs deleted Sep 25 2007, 08:13 AM
doxy I'm just shocked with dissapointment in regard... Sep 25 2007, 09:09 AM
doxy Off topic:
I've been looking at my avator pict... Sep 25 2007, 09:19 AM
Mr Pugs Yes attempted murder is overkill--it has since bee... Sep 25 2007, 10:02 AM
LoveMyPugs deleted Sep 25 2007, 10:19 AM
pepper why did the black kid ask to sit under the "w... Sep 25 2007, 03:40 PM
girlygirlgag 6 kids didn't beat up Barker, 3 did. None the... Sep 26 2007, 11:03 AM
doxy "did the six black kids really think they wer... Sep 25 2007, 02:53 PM
octobersky Prior to the Jena6 - there HAD to be things going ... Sep 25 2007, 09:24 PM
LoveMyPugs deleted Sep 26 2007, 08:26 AM
pepper luvpugs "to stand up and ask the principle if... Sep 26 2007, 07:14 PM
girltrouble ordinarily, i'd agree with you, but i don... Sep 26 2007, 08:21 PM
Mr Pugs Again, GT, that article to me read like there was ... Sep 27 2007, 06:05 AM
pepper i don't think it matters that some people didn... Sep 27 2007, 07:06 AM
Mr Pugs I agree pepper that it's nitpicking, but I... Sep 27 2007, 07:52 AM
doxy "3 black guys "exchange words" with... Sep 27 2007, 10:07 AM
Mr Pugs "3 black guys "exchange words" with... Sep 27 2007, 03:36 PM
pepper i know we all feel strongly about this but i see t... Sep 27 2007, 10:45 AM
girlygirlgag cannot really be racially slurred against as a whi... Sep 27 2007, 11:03 AM
girlygirlgag Knick it off with the "You don't live her... Sep 27 2007, 10:59 AM
Mr Pugs "one represents the ugliest hatred this count... Sep 27 2007, 11:03 AM
pepper for the same reason that the gay community has rec... Sep 27 2007, 11:47 AM
Mr Pugs for the same reason that the gay community has rec... Sep 27 2007, 12:17 PM
treehugger What's the purpose of reclaiming the words?
M... Sep 27 2007, 12:50 PM
girlygirlgag There is also the position in the gay and lesbian ... Sep 27 2007, 12:09 PM
laniethezany The problem with looking at this situation in isol... Sep 27 2007, 12:36 PM
pepper it's not so much about making the people using... Sep 27 2007, 12:56 PM
culturehandy In regards to how the media is handling this. We a... Sep 27 2007, 01:07 PM
sixelacat What treehugger said. :) eta: and pepper! gue... Sep 27 2007, 01:11 PM
girlygirlgag I never said that Mr bell should be punished as se... Sep 27 2007, 01:13 PM
girlygirlgag beep Sep 27 2007, 01:14 PM
girlygirlgag boop Sep 27 2007, 01:14 PM
pepper wow, you really, Really meant that, didn't you... Sep 27 2007, 01:24 PM
girlygirlgag I have gremlins. Sep 27 2007, 01:25 PM
culturehandy girlygirlgag, I totally agree that one needs to fa... Sep 27 2007, 01:32 PM
culturehandy I think people are afraid because of the media por... Sep 27 2007, 05:16 PM
girltrouble
pugs:
i should also mention, in your post you qu... Sep 27 2007, 05:40 PM
pepper anybody going to watch the two families talk to dr... Sep 28 2007, 01:40 AM
doxy GirlyGag, you don't live here B) .
And so the... Sep 28 2007, 02:46 AM
culturehandy Doxy, I'm curious if you are suggesting that n... Sep 28 2007, 06:32 AM
girlygirlgag I live in Cincinnati. The town where police office... Sep 28 2007, 07:23 AM
culturehandy Girly, where in the hell did I get that you were f... Sep 28 2007, 07:27 AM
girlygirlgag I had made references to riots before, so you prob... Sep 28 2007, 07:31 AM
culturehandy I do believe that is correct. Thank you fellow mem... Sep 28 2007, 07:35 AM
doxy Obviously you do care, and I'm glad you do.
On... Sep 28 2007, 09:11 AM
girltrouble meh. i think location is a huge factor. what flie... Sep 28 2007, 04:39 PM
treehugger heh..I was trying to reply and my internet was won... Sep 28 2007, 04:53 PM
sybarite I'm reading this thread with interest. Doxy, I... Sep 29 2007, 10:41 AM
girltrouble
really? oof. i suppose i should have egg on my fa... Sep 29 2007, 01:13 PM
girlygirlgag Not once did anyone say it is the same all over th... Sep 29 2007, 01:33 PM
girltrouble and i didn't say you couldn't have an opin... Sep 29 2007, 01:48 PM
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