 A Gender Agenda |
 Sep 30 2009, 12:01 PM
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I pitched this in the Community Forum and it was well recieved.
This thread is all about the politics and cross cultural and societal views on gender. I started thinking increasingly about gender when the media frenzy about Caster Semenya emerged. It is my opinion that the only reason people questioned Ms. Semenya's gender is because she appeared to be "masculine". That is, she looked masculine according to the ideas of society at large. Had she had softer, more "feminine" features, questions of her gender would not have come up. So, what is gender? We know that there is sex, your biological sex, but gender is a social construct. -------------------- Hatred does not cease in this world by hating, but by not hating; this is an eternal truth. --- Buddah, The Dhammapada
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Oct 1 2009, 12:23 PM
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Very interesting thread! I'm mulling all this over and don't know exactly WHAT to think, but something deep down doesn't agree with the general premise of the conversation. But when I slow down & I dissect the comments they make more (agreeable) sense to me. I can't quite put my finger on it, though.
When I digest all this & find the words to add to this conversation, y'all will probably hate me! But keep it going; I'm intrigued by this thread. -------------------- "Earth: The insane asylum for the universe..."
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Oct 1 2009, 01:06 PM
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QUOTE(bob4both @ Oct 1 2009, 01:23 PM)  Very interesting thread! I'm mulling all this over and don't know exactly WHAT to think, but something deep down doesn't agree with the general premise of the conversation. But when I slow down & I dissect the comments they make more (agreeable) sense to me. I can't quite put my finger on it, though. When I digest all this & find the words to add to this conversation, y'all will probably hate me! But keep it going; I'm intrigued by this thread. b4b (and lurkers) you are in NO WAY required to agree with us. I would love for someone to jump on here and make a case for biology just to get us thinking in a different direction. Feminists aren't made from cookie cutters; we can agree to disagree (apologies for the lame cliche). -------------------- "The U.S. is the only nation on Earth to pass from barbarism into decadence without once passing through an era of civilization."
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culturehandy A Gender Agenda Sep 30 2009, 12:01 PM
koffeewitch I (and I assume many feminists) would agree with y... Sep 30 2009, 12:32 PM deschatsrouge In our culture I think we associate Gender and bio... Sep 30 2009, 01:43 PM sybarite I am really pleased this thread has been started; ... Oct 1 2009, 05:21 AM
koffeewitch I am really pleased this thread has been started; ... Oct 1 2009, 06:48 AM culturehandy How much gender is a social contrsuct is something... Oct 1 2009, 07:00 AM jsmith I don't think it comes down to nature v. nurtu... Oct 1 2009, 07:56 PM mumblestutter nice thread! this may or may not be totally co... Oct 1 2009, 09:09 PM koffeewitch I love this thread! I've been thinking ab... Oct 2 2009, 06:29 AM culturehandy I thought about the masculine vs feminine, especia... Oct 2 2009, 07:51 AM justF Interesting topic, so even though its my first pos... Oct 2 2009, 07:37 PM stargazer Good thread, CH! :)
I'm working with a pr... Oct 4 2009, 12:07 PM jsmith jsmith, you mentioned a continuum of gender. have ... Oct 4 2009, 01:24 PM angie_21 In my anthropology classes, I was taught to use th... Oct 4 2009, 04:14 PM culturehandy angie, that's exactly what I'm thinking of... Oct 4 2009, 04:23 PM stargazer If something is biologically not real, but believe... Oct 4 2009, 05:54 PM jsmith
from a theoretical perspective, raising a child ... Oct 4 2009, 07:46 PM angie_21 I think my parents had a good idea, which instead ... Oct 4 2009, 08:16 PM girltrouble . Oct 4 2009, 09:26 PM koffeewitch Reading through all the new posts, it still seems ... Oct 5 2009, 08:58 AM culturehandy GT, I read your previous post, and it does make se... Oct 5 2009, 09:27 AM jsmith
For example, when a person meets a man who is an... Oct 5 2009, 10:45 AM angie_21 CH, I'm also pretty interested in that, not ju... Oct 5 2009, 05:22 PM stargazer GT, why did you remove your post?? You made some ... Oct 5 2009, 07:04 PM ketto Well, going along your previous post. I've of... Oct 6 2009, 08:26 AM hcbeck Marilyn Frye:
"...when queers go forth in dr... Oct 6 2009, 10:01 AM girltrouble i deleted it, because, well, i've been enjoyin... Oct 5 2009, 07:50 PM candycane_girl Okay, this is off topic but GT, whenever I see a p... Oct 5 2009, 09:37 PM koffeewitch An observation about gender by Phil Donahue: (I... Oct 6 2009, 06:51 AM girltrouble that's an interesting point koffee(so glad eve... Oct 6 2009, 07:03 AM culturehandy GT, that post is magnificent!!
I was goin... Oct 6 2009, 07:05 AM koffeewitch I'd like to ask you all a personal question(s)... Oct 6 2009, 10:33 AM jsmith Your post strikes a chord with me, koffeewitch. Wh... Oct 6 2009, 02:57 PM angie_21 GT, thanks for laying out those ideas and definiti... Oct 6 2009, 05:49 PM stargazer That's a great quote, ketto. :)
koffeewitch,... Oct 6 2009, 06:52 PM jsmith I think some people react to femininsm so strongly... Oct 6 2009, 07:06 PM stargazer Kim France's article about drag and feminism. ... Oct 6 2009, 08:19 PM culturehandy I have never felt bound by being a woman, or when ... Oct 7 2009, 07:40 AM koffeewitch I have never felt bound by being a woman, or when ... Oct 7 2009, 08:29 AM koffeewitch Wow! Thanks to all you who responded to my qu... Oct 7 2009, 08:14 AM culturehandy Being Canadian and all, I didn't see the found... Oct 7 2009, 08:37 AM ketto Being Canadian and all, I didn't see the found... Oct 7 2009, 09:37 AM girltrouble ketto, i love that quote! thank you!
beck... Oct 7 2009, 08:52 AM koffeewitch the two basic groups are those that are "pro... Oct 7 2009, 11:20 AM koffeewitch Ahhh, yes. Canada (longing sigh). There are SO MA... Oct 7 2009, 09:00 AM culturehandy Koffee, with something like this, that goes to sho... Oct 7 2009, 09:25 AM culturehandy I found that our teachers engaged all sutdents.
... Oct 7 2009, 10:00 AM jsmith Now what bums me, is I refused to learn so many of... Oct 7 2009, 10:16 AM girltrouble the one that i mentioned that comes across as ever... Oct 7 2009, 11:38 AM koffeewitch GT- That's really intriguing; I like the idea ... Oct 7 2009, 01:10 PM angie_21 wow, I can't keep up with everything here... Oct 8 2009, 09:42 PM koffeewitch angie21 - AH, as I've said I think Canada is a... Oct 16 2009, 10:18 AM angie_21 angie21 - AH, as I've said I think Canada is a... Oct 17 2009, 01:19 PM auralpoison Injustice at Every Turn is a new report on the dis... Feb 7 2011, 11:25 PM anarch Thanks for linking that, aural. Good to have that ... Feb 9 2011, 01:40 AM |
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