 A Gender Agenda |
 Sep 30 2009, 12:01 PM
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I pitched this in the Community Forum and it was well recieved.
This thread is all about the politics and cross cultural and societal views on gender. I started thinking increasingly about gender when the media frenzy about Caster Semenya emerged. It is my opinion that the only reason people questioned Ms. Semenya's gender is because she appeared to be "masculine". That is, she looked masculine according to the ideas of society at large. Had she had softer, more "feminine" features, questions of her gender would not have come up. So, what is gender? We know that there is sex, your biological sex, but gender is a social construct. -------------------- Hatred does not cease in this world by hating, but by not hating; this is an eternal truth. --- Buddah, The Dhammapada
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Oct 6 2009, 07:06 PM
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 It's Calamity Jenn Posts: 643 From: Lone Star State |
QUOTE(angie_21 @ Oct 6 2009, 05:49 PM)  I think some people react to femininsm so strongly because they somehow feel we want to force all women to be manly, all men to be ladylike. But that's not it at all - some of us would prefer to express some of our more so-called masculine qualities, others more feminine, but in the end we should just be allowed to express ourselves! Totally agree with this. Stargazer - some feminists think that drag queens are mocking women? That's a totally new one on me. I myself have always thought that these men just prefer to wear 'women's' clothes. And if it's what these men truly want, I can't see that as mocking. Why do some feminists think it's mocking, do you know? -------------------- Shake off all the fears of servile prejudices, under which weak minds are serviley crouched. Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call on her tribunal for every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God, because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blind faith. — Thomas Jefferson
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culturehandy A Gender Agenda Sep 30 2009, 12:01 PM
koffeewitch I (and I assume many feminists) would agree with y... Sep 30 2009, 12:32 PM deschatsrouge In our culture I think we associate Gender and bio... Sep 30 2009, 01:43 PM sybarite I am really pleased this thread has been started; ... Oct 1 2009, 05:21 AM
koffeewitch I am really pleased this thread has been started; ... Oct 1 2009, 06:48 AM culturehandy How much gender is a social contrsuct is something... Oct 1 2009, 07:00 AM bob4both Very interesting thread! I'm mulling all t... Oct 1 2009, 12:23 PM koffeewitch Very interesting thread! I'm mulling all t... Oct 1 2009, 01:06 PM jsmith I don't think it comes down to nature v. nurtu... Oct 1 2009, 07:56 PM mumblestutter nice thread! this may or may not be totally co... Oct 1 2009, 09:09 PM koffeewitch I love this thread! I've been thinking ab... Oct 2 2009, 06:29 AM culturehandy I thought about the masculine vs feminine, especia... Oct 2 2009, 07:51 AM justF Interesting topic, so even though its my first pos... Oct 2 2009, 07:37 PM stargazer Good thread, CH! :)
I'm working with a pr... Oct 4 2009, 12:07 PM jsmith jsmith, you mentioned a continuum of gender. have ... Oct 4 2009, 01:24 PM angie_21 In my anthropology classes, I was taught to use th... Oct 4 2009, 04:14 PM culturehandy angie, that's exactly what I'm thinking of... Oct 4 2009, 04:23 PM stargazer If something is biologically not real, but believe... Oct 4 2009, 05:54 PM jsmith
from a theoretical perspective, raising a child ... Oct 4 2009, 07:46 PM angie_21 I think my parents had a good idea, which instead ... Oct 4 2009, 08:16 PM girltrouble . Oct 4 2009, 09:26 PM koffeewitch Reading through all the new posts, it still seems ... Oct 5 2009, 08:58 AM culturehandy GT, I read your previous post, and it does make se... Oct 5 2009, 09:27 AM jsmith
For example, when a person meets a man who is an... Oct 5 2009, 10:45 AM angie_21 CH, I'm also pretty interested in that, not ju... Oct 5 2009, 05:22 PM stargazer GT, why did you remove your post?? You made some ... Oct 5 2009, 07:04 PM ketto Well, going along your previous post. I've of... Oct 6 2009, 08:26 AM hcbeck Marilyn Frye:
"...when queers go forth in dr... Oct 6 2009, 10:01 AM girltrouble i deleted it, because, well, i've been enjoyin... Oct 5 2009, 07:50 PM candycane_girl Okay, this is off topic but GT, whenever I see a p... Oct 5 2009, 09:37 PM koffeewitch An observation about gender by Phil Donahue: (I... Oct 6 2009, 06:51 AM girltrouble that's an interesting point koffee(so glad eve... Oct 6 2009, 07:03 AM culturehandy GT, that post is magnificent!!
I was goin... Oct 6 2009, 07:05 AM koffeewitch I'd like to ask you all a personal question(s)... Oct 6 2009, 10:33 AM jsmith Your post strikes a chord with me, koffeewitch. Wh... Oct 6 2009, 02:57 PM angie_21 GT, thanks for laying out those ideas and definiti... Oct 6 2009, 05:49 PM stargazer That's a great quote, ketto. :)
koffeewitch,... Oct 6 2009, 06:52 PM stargazer Kim France's article about drag and feminism. ... Oct 6 2009, 08:19 PM culturehandy I have never felt bound by being a woman, or when ... Oct 7 2009, 07:40 AM koffeewitch I have never felt bound by being a woman, or when ... Oct 7 2009, 08:29 AM koffeewitch Wow! Thanks to all you who responded to my qu... Oct 7 2009, 08:14 AM culturehandy Being Canadian and all, I didn't see the found... Oct 7 2009, 08:37 AM ketto Being Canadian and all, I didn't see the found... Oct 7 2009, 09:37 AM girltrouble ketto, i love that quote! thank you!
beck... Oct 7 2009, 08:52 AM koffeewitch the two basic groups are those that are "pro... Oct 7 2009, 11:20 AM koffeewitch Ahhh, yes. Canada (longing sigh). There are SO MA... Oct 7 2009, 09:00 AM culturehandy Koffee, with something like this, that goes to sho... Oct 7 2009, 09:25 AM culturehandy I found that our teachers engaged all sutdents.
... Oct 7 2009, 10:00 AM jsmith Now what bums me, is I refused to learn so many of... Oct 7 2009, 10:16 AM girltrouble the one that i mentioned that comes across as ever... Oct 7 2009, 11:38 AM koffeewitch GT- That's really intriguing; I like the idea ... Oct 7 2009, 01:10 PM angie_21 wow, I can't keep up with everything here... Oct 8 2009, 09:42 PM koffeewitch angie21 - AH, as I've said I think Canada is a... Oct 16 2009, 10:18 AM angie_21 angie21 - AH, as I've said I think Canada is a... Oct 17 2009, 01:19 PM auralpoison Injustice at Every Turn is a new report on the dis... Feb 7 2011, 11:25 PM anarch Thanks for linking that, aural. Good to have that ... Feb 9 2011, 01:40 AM |
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