QUOTE(jewelscando @ Apr 23 2008, 11:07 PM)

Sorry the board has turned into this again... I understand what you all are saying about Lori... but if I could just say 1 thing in her defense... Lori gives a shit. That's her problem, if you want to call it a problem. It scares the shit out of her, that WE, being the desperate BV Sufferer's that we are, are willling to stick any and everything up our vagina's or down our throats, without giving much thought about it. I'm the first to admit that I was the guinny pig for awhile, and was 1 of the first to try Boric Acid, without looking into it. I got a rash so bad, I've been scared for life. And thats the kind of shit that scares Lori.
Thanks for understanding where I'm coming from.
QUOTE(jewelscando @ Apr 23 2008, 11:07 PM)

Now, on the other hand, Lori, you and I have had this discussion, AND FIGHTS, hahah, before.. You do come across condensending. I know you don't mean to girl, but you just do.
I know.
It's because there isn't any other way to tell someone that I think they're wrong. It's impossible to disagree with anyone in this group. As I said before, I think people are way too invested in their own theories that if anyone questions it, it always devolves into a fight. It's exhausting.
I still stand by everything I said, though. I thought it was important to tell people to think twice before using certain treatments that have been advocated in this group - especially the hormonal stuff. (Don't fuck with your hormones, people, it can permanently mess you up!
I'm not saying you shouldn't consider hormonal issues, just confirm it with a doctor first!) And I think getting that message out there was more important than some hurt feelings along the way.
And I want to make clear - I'm not trying to get anyone to do anything OR not do anything. Everyone has the right to do exactly what they want. If you want to douche yourself with bleach, I don't care. It's your choice. But if you try to get other people on the bleach-douche bandwagon, at least have a good reason about why you think that's a good idea.
Jewels, you and I disagreed, but now we're cool with each other because you knew that I meant well, and vice versa. So I just thought that's enough.
QUOTE(jewelscando @ Apr 23 2008, 11:07 PM)

So, I understand both sides of the story.... Lori.. you know I love you and I hope you stick around. I may not agree with you, but if I've learned anything in my 40yrs of life, it's to learn to "Agree to disagree". Makes life alot easier.
Neverending.. I think you are great.... for the record!! love you girl!!
Well, we definitely disagree here!
Neverending, I don't have any personal animosity against you. But you've obviously never gotten over our previous disagreements. You obviously have a lot of personal animosity against me, and just couldn't wait to run me out of this group.
Before, I just thought you're a crazy bitch. Now I understand that it's because you need this group to literally "validate your existence," and you feel that I threatened that somehow. Friendship and support is one thing, but I think you're too invested in the hormonal theory (which isn't even BV, as I pointed out a bazillion times). You've got ladies in their 30's and even 20's imagining they have menopause symptoms, and before long, you'll have them self-treating with mail-order hormone products.
It would be one thing if you knew what you were doing, but it's pretty clear that you don't. (A thyroid produces hormones. That's really basic stuff.) So basically, you're going to get people to use Estroil, whether it's good for them or not. Maybe it will work, then they'll thank you, and you'll be best friends forever. You only want people to use what you recommend, so that you can make friends. In my opinion, that's not helping people.
Maybe all that mail-order hormone turned you into a crazy-pants. But I don't think all this fighting was all useless. You're clearly being a little more cautious now about pumping Estroil down people's throats.