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seven
QUOTE(missladyj @ May 31 2007, 07:15 PM) *
why do all of the people who work at American Apparel suck.

they all seem much too fucking cool to help customers and it apparently takes two of them to ring up my purchase while a line forms behind me despite the fact that there are two registers.

and having a mullet while wearing your AA scarf does not make your mullet cool. It is still a mullet and you are a douche
end rant


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you took the words right out of my mouth. i heart american apparel. i do. but i always feel like the odd person out when i walk through those two glass doors. some of the outfits they put together aren't fashion forward. they are just a bunch of clothes thrown halfhazardly together. they look fine, if that's their thing. but they are NOT stylistas.

and it never fails that they are throwing inside AA jokes at one another whilst they check me out (it takes two). c'mon.
mouse
i hate american apparel. their ads are fucking boring as hell and the owner, dov charney, is a chauvinist pig who hand-picks all the employees, even for the stores, based on hotness. he's also had several sexual harassment lawsuits thrown at him and sleeps with a lot of his assistants. their warehouse is a block away from where i work, and while i do think it's great that he's paying his factory workers a living wage, everything else about the company disgusts me. i actually applied for a job at one of the stores when i first moved out here and was desperate, and they didn't even look at my resume and instead took a polaroid. apparently nobody is considered for a position without a photo. a friend of mine knows a guy who works at one of the stores, and he told us that when applications come in, he and the other male employees take the photos and put them into two separate piles, one being "yeah, i'd fuck her" and one being, obviously, "no". the approved photos get sent to dov, and that's how you get hired at american apparel. congratulations, you're a tool.
seven
mouse, you're absolutely right. i have gone back and forth about that. problem being, i love their clothing (t-shirts, knee socks, undies, bras, you name it, i love it). I wish so very much that the company was way less sexist and way more politically forward - going along the lines of paying their factory workers more, etc... but you're right. all they do that is politically and socially forward is paying their workers more!

one thing i do think, however, is that Dov and the girls with whom he cohorts...that's his personal thing. A lot of women that DO sleep with him, even though he is their/her boss...well that's their deal. As for the sexual harassment cases, I really believe that researching the company you work for before you work there, is imperative. If you aren't open to being sexually harassed (and who is, really) than you must not work there. Eventually, if enough women choose to not work there, he will be forced to change his company "policy" to accomodate non-sexist policies.

mumblestutter
oh!

forgot this was here!

this goes back a few months but,

BURBERRY MOONBOOTS
missladyj
I'd rather buy my clothes made in the u.s. that have no logos on them by people who work for a living wage from a total chauvinist pig than clothes that are made in china etc in a sweatshop where worker safety and environmental laws don't matter


the whole slutty ad thing and pornos in the store really doesn't bother me, although I may start to just buy it online instead of dealing with the morons who work there and aren't as cool as they like to think they are.
kelkello
I won't buy any garment that has a company name visible on it. I do a unit on advertising with my students and I always ask them, "Why would you pay this huge company to do its advertising for it?" The thought never even dawns on them. They pay $50 for an Aeropostale sweatshirt. They've just paid Aeropostale $50 to do their advertising when the company should pay THEM for being a walking billboard.
mouse
QUOTE(missladyj @ Jun 3 2007, 03:59 PM) *
I'd rather buy my clothes made in the u.s. that have no logos on them by people who work for a living wage from a total chauvinist pig than clothes that are made in china etc in a sweatshop where worker safety and environmental laws don't matter



this is why i buy as much as i possibly can secondhand. i agree, it's a total ethical paradox. but i recently found out about the whole "hiring based on perceived fuckability" thing and i can't stand for that, even if the girls who get hired are okay with it.

however, american apparel isn't the only company that doesn't import their labour, and just because something is not made in the us doesn't mean it's necessarily made in a sweatshop. i'm not trying to be pedantic, but it's not like they're the lone bastion of good labor laws.
culturehandy
On the issue of sweatshops and slave labour, at the rate that countries are outsourcing their labour, it's only a matter of time before, we, as consumers, can find something that isn't made in a sweatshop (oh wait, isn't it already like that). Companies want to maximize profit while keeping costs low (obviously), and it has come to the point where you find something that is genuinely, ethically made, it is expensive because of that! I have a hoodie made out of hemp, made here in Canada, and it cost over one hundred dollars!

That is all.

nad burberry moon boots. ick!
octobersky
Tight white knit gauchos - it literally looked like her ass was eating them. Eeewwww. I know this is finals week and everyone lets their grooming slide, but couldn't you FEEL the pants going up your ass? That would be the last thing I would want when sitting an exam.

COF on a car - a minivan with a barbed wire "stripe" around it. That's right I said minivan with barbed wire. Blech.
missladyj
kelkello,
I talk with my students about that too!! have you been to the stay free magazine website? I use a power point from there that has the abc's with all product labels it is great!!.
kelkello
missladyj, I'll have to check that out.

Today I saw the oddest woman. She was about 6 feet tall, about 95 pounds. She had on greyish acid washed peg legged jeans and a grey t-shirt. She had on hooker/porn star shoes. They had 5 inch heels, made of clear acetate, and silver straps that wrapped around her ankles. Her face was very homely. Her toes were hanging over the fronts of the shoes. This was in a Barnes and Noble, and she was looking at craft magazines. Very odd.
culturehandy
Oh Kel. that is odd.

This morning on the drive to work I saw a man riding a bicycle, wearing pink, flowered (I think, they had some sort of pattern on them) shorts with a red plaid, lumber jack jacket. It was hideous. All I could think of was posting it here.
shinyx3
here at the farmers market in my town, woman, late twenties to early thirties, deep purple haram pants and matching choli top both shiny and beaded. she was quite large (likely around 250+lbs) and the entire middle of her belly was showing a glowing white. now here is the kicker - a tiara beaded with the kind of triangle plastic beads that fit together and you can buy in kits for children to bead. I happen to know that she made the tiara as she was in one of my classes a while back and use to make them in class.
seven
anyone that has their toes overhanging their sandals/shoes/whatever...ick.
culturehandy
Mornington, your post about the cooler than thou girl made it into the bust news letter thingy.

Shiny, was a terrible outfit.
faerietails2
*raises a toast*

Cheers, mornington! biggrin.gif
mornington
*bows*

I feel quite proud of myself. although, tbh, taken out of the thread, i do appear to be an almighty bitch. rolleyes.gif

shiny, that outfit just... the mind, it boggles.
culturehandy
What's funny, is that I was high when I read that post, and I thought it was by far the funniest thing I ever read, I still do actually.
marianita
word on the street is that american apparel actually union busts. they say they treat their workers really well so they don't need a union, but if they're so confident, then why don't they just let the union exist and find that everything is peachy? sketchy....

i never understand why some of the snooty sorority girls show up to class in really expensive sweatpants/pyjamas, as if to say a) my pyjamas are nicer than your actual clothes and cool.gif i'm so hot i don't even need to dress up

sigh.
chachaheels
I think the whole "we pay our workers more" line from American Apparel is questionable too.
They rely on an awful lot of "volunteer" work that would cost them many thousands of dollars, if they had to pay for it.
Plus, in retail, people end up working an awful lot of overtime hours for no overtime pay. I don't doubt the AA stores allow this little "oversight" (on which so much of retail business is dependent) to go on regularly.

It may be true they pay some of their workers a bit more than their peers...but definitely not all their workers, and they certainly save a fortune by capitalizing on unpaid labour their staff may not get a choice about. They bust unions because unions would force all that unpaid labour to be paid. And that would mean much, much smaller profits.
freckleface7
I don't mean to interrupt the train of conversation here (I have never been tempted to shop in an Aa store ever.) but when I saw these I thought, hmmm, good -bad or just plain ugly?

you be the judge : http://www.blissworld.com/product/id/11820...0499&KICKER

seems kinda silly to me, when if you really want to get fit, walking, just plain ole walking, is a great way to start anyway, w/ out spending $$ on a pair of flip flops.


I am seriously considering a pair of regular sandal-looking crocs.
missjoy
Can anybody show me a picture of anyone who looks good in those balloon skirts or dresses. Perhaps i'm stylishly backwards, but I think it is the most awful look ever! When I'm thinking of my wardrobe, I don't think the word bubbly has ever popped to mind as something to strive for
mornington
this was a classic wtf? moment...

you know those really fugly shoes, the one made to look like men's lace-up dress shoes, kindof like this but they came higher up the foot, close to the ankle, and were in bright shiny patent black. Well, a pair of those. White cargo pants, of the variety where they have these little strings on the ankle that allows you to pull them up to capri-length. Them. Capri-length, natch. Black peasanty top, off the shoulder with this big fuck-off ruffle all around. She was well-boobed, and this ruffle just sat on top...

the best bit? These fashion mistakes were more appropriate age-wise to her daughter, walking beside her looking totally normal. I just stared and stared.
mouse
you know, i saw a girl wearing a bubble skirt the other day and i swear to god, she actually rocked it so hard she made me want one. it was kind of an understated shiny purple textury fabric--tapestry or upholstery come to mind but not in a fugly way--and she was wearing it with really simple black flats and a fitted orangey-brown jacket. it actually looked awesome and i wanted it.

however, i also have to confess to wearing a skirt over pants a few days ago so maybe my taste is not to be relied on (in my defense, it was a very see-through dress and it was cold and i didn't want to just wear a slip under and all my cute tops were in the wash).
designermedusa
I was in Orlando last weekend, and I saw a group of emo-ish boys wearing pajama pants out in public. Why?????????
bustygirl
QUOTE
They pay $50 for an Aeropostale sweatshirt. They've just paid Aeropostale $50 to do their advertising when the company should pay THEM for being a walking billboard.


Which is why I'll never make anything with my name on it. Plus, it's tacky.
hellotampon
Short shorts and a white tanktop. Fine.

But then I started to notice the accessories, in this order:
White kitten-heeled sandals.
Long hair in pigtails
Flashy Von Dutch belt buckle.
Black bra with clear straps.
Black eyeshadow.

She looked like an aspiring porn star from a trailer park in Tennessee. And this was on a very cute girl who I stood next to in my high school graduation. A few years ago she used to wear cute sundresses a lot. I don't know what happened. And actually I think the clincher in this crime of fashion was the shoes. The rest would have looked kinda avergae with regular flip flops. Dumb, but in an average way.
shinyx3
seen at a lighting store today.

middle aged woman with too tight business style skirt and matching jacket of a very gold taupe color.
matching taupe shell under the jacket.
nude hose (looking rather goldish taupe)
matching taupe heels
gold earings small hoop style.
now here is the best part . . . make-up all beige-taupe including lipstick and frosted gray blonde hair.

she was the most monochromatic person i have ever seen. everything was the same color.
octobersky
Monochromatic in a lighting store! That's just funny....

That reminds me I was in Sally's (beauty supply store) and this older woman about 65 years old was in there looking for a brown lipstick. She was complaining to the manager that she couldn't find brown lipstick anywhere - uh there is a reason you can't find it! Brown lipstick is not flattering, it makes you look like you kissed a mud puddle. She would have looked so much better in a soft rose color. Maybe she and the taupe woman are in cahoots......
sybarite
I saw this and thought of y'all...

mandals with socks next new trend

Hide now.
culturehandy
*vomits* syb, that is horrifying!!!!! I don't want to know what next, I really don't want to know.

hellotampon, that comment about her looking like a porn star just about made me shoot coleslaw out my nose.

Shiny, all taupe? Oh I'd hate to see her house.

I'd like to know why people seem to think it's appropriate to not where a bra at work then have the rest of us see your nips. Come one! This is an office, if it was hooters, then fine, but come one.
maimy
I actually wear brown lipstick all the time, and it's not at all challenging to find. Metallic medium brown, mocha gloss, raisin-dark brown, and even nearly-black brown are all pretty regular on my rotation.

In fashion crime news, I'll leave WalkingBitch to come in and share the joys her ManlyMan photographed while the three of us strolled the Boardwalk at Coney Island. He only got the back of the Meth Queen (filthy-to-the-point-of-actual-tatters pink pajamas and wasted-face ... ooh, please lemme have some-a that yummy, yummy drug!), but ... there was one other "back" he got which epitomized the worst of the day. Without even getting into the wrong-size/black-lace-on-white outfit, allow me one single phrase of terror:

Ass ruching.



*Shudder*
mornington
i love petridis' column to bits, but fuck's sake, the man wore a cape last year. he's clearly cracked. or at least I hope he is... because I really don't want that to come true.

hellot, I lol'd.

shades of brown lipstick can be flattering on the right person, imo, *shrug*. it just needs care.

mm, ass ruching. hungry hungry butt-cracks, yes?
kelkello
I'm with Maimy on the brown lipstick. There are lots of lovely shades of brown that I can and do wear. I'm not talking mud puddle here, but a nice mocha? Indeed, I'll wear it and it looks great.
octobersky
This lady was looking for crayola crayon brown, not the prettier shades of nude, raisin or metallic that you all mentioned. Her complexion was quite fair and creamy along with snow white hair. Seriously, it wasn't a good look for her, even a brown pink/red would have looked much better. Should have clarified the shade of brown.
seven
I had never heard of anyone wearing brown lipstick before. Hmm...here something new each day. I think the mocha colored gloss sounds pretty....

back to lurking away...
seven
double post
maimy
Mornington: I am sorry to say, ass-munching pants might actually have been BETTER. No, these little shorts had vertical seams up the middle of each ass cheek, and each seam was ruched ... and then pulled tightly taut across the beam. Ew. And THEN there was the ass-crack too, of course. And then more ruching up the side seams, I believe. And more on the front, possibly; my mind, blessedly, wanders on this point. *Eye roll*

The thing about brown lipstick is that the colors you like you don't think of as "brown". They're cinnamon or raisin or mocha or maybe even copper. But matte mud colors are NOT Teh Flattering. And that's sad. Because most women with white hair can wear SO many beautiful colors, and rock them just silly. My mom has a fair pink complexion, and she can wear almost any textile, almost any color. But her makeup tends to stay more warm-toned and vivid, rightly so. (I could probably live without the slightly goopy corals she's addicted to, but on principle the color is a good idea ... just sometimes, execution gets heavy ...)
maimy
Mornington: I am sorry to say, ass-munching pants might actually have been BETTER. No, these little shorts had vertical seams up the middle of each ass cheek, and each seam was ruched ... and then pulled tightly taut across the beam. Ew. And THEN there was the ass-crack too, of course. And then more ruching up the side seams, I believe. And more on the front, possibly; my mind, blessedly, wanders on this point. *Eye roll*

The thing about brown lipstick is that the colors you like you don't think of as "brown". They're cinnamon or raisin or mocha or maybe even copper. But matte mud colors are NOT Teh Flattering. And that's sad. Because most women with white hair can wear SO many beautiful colors, and rock them just silly. My mom has a fair pink complexion, and she can wear almost any textile, almost any color. But her makeup tends to stay more warm-toned and vivid, rightly so. (I could probably live without the slightly goopy corals she's addicted to, but on principle the color is a good idea ... just sometimes, execution gets heavy ...)
hellotampon
I've SEEN those ruched pants! Just in the store though, never seen anyone actually wearing them. They are horrible.
divaintraining
What do you all think of a suit that doesn't have pants or a skirt, but rather shorts/capris as part of it? I saw one featured in More Magazine this month (it's here if you need a visual: http://www.brandhabit.com/MORE).

I think it's actually kind of cute, but I think you might need to be in a more creative/casual type workplace to pull it off.

Opinions?
mornington
do the eye-bleach people do mind-bleach? I need some after that mental image, maimy. yeeeech.

diva, I've seen those, although only ever in catalogues. They could look cute, if you're the sort of person who looks cute in capri pants anyway. but the shorts suit... maybe not. the jacket is just too much; shorts are there to be cool, but blazers are warm... just my 2p and gut reaction, mind. Without the blazer, city shorts can be a good look.
divaintraining
Yeah, I dunno. The picture in More looks pretty cute...I think it's a nice mix of casual but businessy if that makes sense - but I'm kind of tall and I never know if capris/long shorts look right on me because I'm always worried about the portions of the way they look on me.

How would you work the city shorts look if you were going to do it?
ginger_kitty
This is more a grooming issue than a Cof, but I think it fits in this thread. I saw a cashier at the store with poorly kept nails, that just drove me nuts. Some of her nails were long, some were really short. They just grossed me out....they were unpolished, ragged, and kind of yellowish. I understand not being able to afford a professional manicure, I have never had one myself. But it's so easy to give yourself a manicure at home. I kept thinking it would take like two minutes to trim and buff those horrific things.

I think I have nail related issues though, I like mine neat and short. It freaks me out when people have crazy long acrylics, or long natural ones that curl. Or little gnarled stubs from nail biting.
shinyx3
i totally agree on the nail thing. toe nails with sandals that are not summer ready. i am having issues with this as i can no longer reach my toes (Preggy belly is in the way) and pedi's are pricy! i have one next week though. i am not over picky that nails have to be polished, just cleaned and not jugged. and no polish from three weeks ago that is chipping off. (this is where i am a totaly CoF on my non reachable toes)
culturehandy
Today at te grocery store I saw a woman who was wearing a black halter top with no bra, and she not only had very large breasts, but she was a larger woman, (at no time is wearing a halter and no bra acceptable, unless you have smaller boobs) Anyways, she was also wearing these black satin like pants with white polka dots on them, and on her feet? The ubiquitos crocs. Oh all I could think of was posting it in here.
sukouyant
There's a time to keep the socks on -- and hobbit feet may demand that, however i've been seeing oodles of sandals with nylons lately. Reinforced toe nylons (why?)
and the summer is still young.
freckleface7
I bought some crocs, but the sandal-2 skinny strap-un-smurfy kind.
they are ridiculously comfortable!!

my CoF question: men in crocs- ever?

we went to an amusement park last week and I could have taken roles & roles of film of the various & plentiful CoF's alone; the standout: an older lady in a techni-shaded bronze 70's sports (short- too short) veloury getup (zippered/baggy shirt), complete w/ hair to match, w/ a blond rooster streak that stood up in a ratted tangled mess off the top of her all over frizzed & burned head.

I can't help but think that that level of "coordination" was accidental, but then, it was SO coordinated, how could it be?
AdviceVixensRawk
Argh. Yesterday on my way to the store I saw this woman wearing those knee-length washed-out jean shorts, tres tight, with a tight top and black very high heels. Despite the obvious wtf moment of her look (she was going to target or sears), she also looked really self-conscious, the ultimate clue to fashion mayhem.

I, on the other hand, looked invisible in my black tank and pants.
ginger_kitty
I have never actually seen a guy in crocs, I just assumed men wouldn't wear them. But I came across this, just today smile.gif :

http://www.styledash.com/2007/06/13/george...-wearing-crocs/

I am so ashamed that he is our president.


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