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candycane_girl
I know that we have a thread for mothers of older children, maybe you could start a thread for new parents and breastfeeding could be one of the main topics.
girl_logic
I created a "Bust Radio Station" for loungies to contribute to, you can read about it here F&F swap thread Would love to see what else people here think is worth sharing.
koffeewitch
We also DO have the Hip Mama thread, but because it is under the "sex" forum, I think it get's lost sometimes. I never would've thought to look under "sex" as opposed to "friends and family" or something.
eyelet
As someone who has had to learn a lot about BF the hard way, I think a discussion of it would be useful. The pregnancy thread currently has a few women about to have babies, quite a few trying to conceive, and a couple of us who stick around because the hip mama thread has been pretty quiet.

I think a thread on new parenthood would be the best of both worlds. Hip Mama definitely gets lost because it's under the sex category.
auralpoison
Hip Mama already exists, you may as well repurpose it instead of starting a whole new thread. If it's quiet in there then start some chatter, the only way to keep a thread hopping is to be proactive & post in it. And if there are enough people interested in talking about new parenting/breast feeding, then it would likely stay near the top, no?

The Lounge isn't exactly bursting at the seams with new parents, if you're really wanting that kind of conversation, you might do just as well to try to find a cool mommy site & join up with them to talk all things baby.
ananke
Yeah, the hip mama thread being in sex just doesn't really work. I'm all for either a breastfeeding thread or a motherhood thread somewhere that makes sense.
kittenb
Well, the Hip Mama thread on the sex board could be let to fade off and a new Hip Mama thread started under Friends & Families of the health board. Normally we try to get at least 2 approving comments for starting a new thread and I think you have it.
girltrouble
it's not like it's my thread, hell i don't think i've ever been in it, but do weigh the posts that are there. i know i would hate for, say the bdsm thread to be moved because of all the stuff that's been posted. there is a whole lot of "thread memory" that will be lost. i'm agnostic on the question, but i just think killing threads even by fading is something that should not be taken lightly.
eyelet
I have yet to find any other US-based websites where one can talk about parenting without having to endure a whole lot of drivel and strange insider jargon. The women who post in Hip Mommas or Pregnancy thread are the same people who on another day might stop by a thread about music or media or bdsm. We sometimes want to talk about "all things baby" with other progressive women. It's true that these forums aren't bursting at the seams with new parents, but there would probably be more new ones joining the conversation if the topic appeared in a more predictable category.

Can Hip Mommas just be moved to friends and family?
girltrouble
if memory serves it could IF, we had a bustie as a mod. unfortunately, we don't, and our chances of getting one are nil. the only way to do it would be to ignore the old one and start a new one.
pinkmartyr
just wanted to share my support for a parenthood thread in a category that makes more sense than "sex." i love the idea of it just being "parenthood," because that term is more inclusive than just "breastfeeding" or "babies." it strikes me as a thread where i could ask a breastfeeding question, but could also chat with folks about how they find more time for their partners while being parents, or about my major anxiety regarding the visit of my step children.

eyelet, i really like what you said about the same person in the baby thread could be the same person in a bdsm or other thread. bust is a special place, and i haven't found a parenting community on the web that is as open or supportive. plus, i'd like to stick around here. its really fun that several of us supported eachother during our pregnancies and can continue to connect here as moms.
auralpoison
Oh, jeezly crow, if it bugs ya'll so much that the Hip Mama thread is in LTAS (Which really doesn't get much play compared to the other forums. It's like nil. People read & perv, but mostly don't post. Ya'll have given it more action lately than the sexy people! LOL!) just start the parenthood thread already! It may not get much play, but at least ya'll will have a space where you are more comfortable, despite that fact that there is a pre-existing thread. I NEVER say this, but in this RARE instance, what's one more thread? Nobody visits LTAS anyways, so it'll drop to the bottom like a kick in the balls.

Ahem, I really don't miss Numbnuts & his shenanigans.

It does make me wonder . . . as mostly vagina Americans (And Canadians & whatnot.) . . . why aren't there more Bustie moms? I know there are Bustie moms & pregnant Busties . . . but the child-centric thread that gets the most action is the CBCers thread. Is that the issue?

I don't think our atmosphere is TOTALLY anti-kid or kid-hostile, I mean, I like hearing about Frecklette & the various Bustie wee 'uns. I appreciate & applaud their growing-up achievements in this topsy-turvy world. But we've had the Hip Mama & the Bustie mom's o' toddler threads for a good long time with VERY little activity. That is why I suggested folks might want to find a hip mommy site as the majority in the Lounge seems to be without child or are at least not talking about them.

So are people holding back? Or are we all just women of mostly 18-45 years without kids?
raisingirl
Don't ask me how I remember this, but deep in the cobwebs of my mind, I seem to remember the Hip Mama thread being started ages ago because the magazine of the same name had temporarily folded or something.
auralpoison
I dunno, Hip Mama seems to be around on the web still.
raisingirl
Right, AP, but I think it changed owners or something. A while ago.

ETA: What's with the Bust clock being 16 minutes off?
auralpoison
I just wondered why the hell they put it in LTAS, Raisin. I mean, that makes no sense. I know Bustygirl didn't start it, but for 104 pages & 2000 posts it was good enough that the mommies kept coming back for more regardless of where it was located.

The clock has been that way for a looooong time now. Months. Who the fuck knows? As long as Steve is taken care of, I will tamp down my OCD & live with a jacked up clock.
raisingirl
I agree it doesn't make sense, either. Maybe it was a mistake that --surprise-- never got fixed here.

My clocks are jacked up and out all over the place. My alarm clock is a couple minutes slow and my car's clock is always fast. It gets jacked up on its own.
pollystyrene
My recollection is that it was started as a "being a mom and still having an active sex life" thread, but that it evolved into mostly being about being a mom, with some sex every now and then (in the thread...not necessarily in the participant's lives tongue.gif).

Personally, I think it exists already, it has served its purpose there just fine, why start another thread? No one who comes to Bust is too delicate to have to see the thread titles, "Fun With Floggers" and "Fantasy Fucking Thread" just to find the mom thread, even if it seems like a weird location for it.

However, that mod/lackey who cleaned up the most recent toxic spill seemed nice and helpful- maybe she can move the thread if we ask nicely?

My bust clock used to be about an hour and 20 minutes off, now it's only about 20 minutes off- maybe because of daylight savings? Whatever; like aural said, I can deal with the clock being off.
girltrouble
i suspect that debbie would not look to kindly on that sort of "tampering," but meh.... never hurts to ask.
koffeewitch
Wow, I'm stuck off-line and this conversation goes off like a wild-fire. Personally, I love the Hip Mama thread..but I never knew it was there for the longest time and I was even looking for something like it. I noticed an icon on the board meaning that a thread has been moved, so I figured it's possible to move it to a better place. You guys know more about this... is it really such a big deal for the office to just move the thread? I do hate to start a new thread or lose an old one...I have noticed a LOT of Busties mentioning breastfeeding and kids so I think we do have some very hip progressive mamas here in the Lounge. If the thread cannot be moved, is there a way to post the name of the thread under Friends and Family and direct seekers to find it under "Sex" or is that idea just too cumbersome altogether?

I know I'm the one who brought up a new thread, but if people know about Hip Mama and start using it other's will see it on the Forum board (that's how I found out about it), and hopefully use it, too. I vote to wait it out for now and see it we can promote Hip Mamma somehow.
eyelet
It sounds like several long standing Busties have no problem with a new thread being started in Friends and Family.

For what it's worth, I was on these boards frequently for a few years prior to getting pregnant (I changed my ID for a fresh start). I came back when I got knocked up because I'm not a typical new mom--I'm 43, and my partner and I don't live together, and I wanted to have a community to talk with about parenting that would be able to understand that. I haven't been disappointed.
auralpoison
QUOTE(koffeewitch @ Nov 20 2009, 10:49 AM) *
I noticed an icon on the board meaning that a thread has been moved, so I figured it's possible to move it to a better place.


It may be possible, but that doesn't mean it ever happens, KW. TPTB don't have much to do with the Lounge outside of the interns cleaning up the troll messes. Once in a blue moon they will close somebody's account (Zora, Musicfit, LMP) if requested, but it's usually two-three months after the request has been made. Outside of those two things, TPTB pretty much leave us to ourselves around here, which is why such tsuris is involved in starting a new thread.

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. . . have noticed a LOT of Busties mentioning breastfeeding and kids so I think we do have some very hip progressive mamas here in the Lounge.


I do not deny that our mommies are hip/progressive, but where are you seeing so many of them? I count five, maybe six people actively interested in breastfeeding/parenthood. Five is less than one percent of one percent of regularly active Busties. Numbers-wise, we mostly seem to have a handful of tween/teen mommies & a handful of new/toddler mommies. At most, all vocal mommies combined, I'd wager maybe twenty people & that's a pretty small percentage.

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I know I'm the one who brought up a new thread, but if people know about Hip Mama and start using it other's will see it on the Forum board (that's how I found out about it), and hopefully use it, too. I vote to wait it out for now and see it we can promote Hip Mamma somehow.


This is likely the best tack to take & I agree 100%.

QUOTE(eyelet @ Nov 20 2009, 03:57 PM) *
It sounds like several long standing Busties have no problem with a new thread being started in Friends and Family.


My initial post was thumbs down on the new thread for the aformentioned reasons & I am afraid I've gone back to my former position. There really aren't enough people to support a whole new thread, especially when a thread already exists. Again, it's 104 pages & has a 2000 post history. If there are enough mommies to keep it thriving, it'll always be at the top of LTAS. As long as the mommies keep it hopping, then new mommies are bound to see it or they can come in here & ask about it & be pointed in the right direction, yes?
koffeewitch
Okay, Hip Mammas, let's start using/promoting the H.M thread in the sex forum and see what happens.
AP, to answer your question about the number of Bustie mamas, I think that because I am more interested in the subject I am just more likely to notice a passing comment about breastfeeding, kids, etc. and remember the Bustie who made the comment. just like with vegetarianism or other things I'm into...but I can never remember other things (who is married, single, straight, gay, etc.) I've actually been pleasantly surprised at the number of busties who BF since it has such a low rate of occurance in the U.S. and England. (Not sure about Canada). The percentage of busties who continue BFing into the toddler years strikes me as higher than in our overall population of U.S. women.

But for the record, I come to the Lounge to reclaim and celebrate the me BEFORE I was Mommy. I come here for grown-up talk and politics, too. I think a lot of Bustie Mamas feel this way, so it is not always evident from their posts that they do have kids. I still like a thread to gripe about clueless pediatricians and feeling like the only feminist (freaky punk rock chick) at the park playgroup.
girltrouble
koffee=31 flavors of awesome.
pollystyrene
QUOTE(Weekend Moderator @ Nov 24 2009, 09:14 PM) *


*sigh* Don't fall for it. Photoshopped miscarriage pics.
girltrouble
[eye roll]
accept no substitutes.
pants
Is there any sort of thread to post to in order to compare what people do in difficult situations. Like say you see someone hitting their kid at a bus stop, how would you respond? Is there any way to intervene that won't make life worse for the kid in the long run?

Or you see any other type of thing that might be scary or complicated to get involved in

I have vague memories of a thread like this, but that would have been ages ago and is possibly something I've made up.

I'm going to have a search around but if no such thread exists, would others be interested in it and which section should it go into?
sybarite
There was an etiquette thread which incorporated a 'what would you do if...' aspect, but I think it was more about manners than moral dilemnas.

I'd be interested in a new thread along the lines you describe. I like 'what if?' scenarios. As it might be somewhat abstract I can't think where to put it though: maybe As The World Turns, rather than F&F.
pants
The etiquette thread! That's what I was remembering!

I was leaning towards ATWT as the best potential spot for this type of thread, but could also see how it would sort of fit in F&F. It's kind of an inbetweener idea
girl_logic
People sometimes post etiquette questions in the General Knowledge thread in media whores, but I wouldn't mind it having it's own thread to flesh out issues. What would be a good name?

I got some PMs recently asking for explanations for different terms we throw around that refer to different "eras" in the lounge (Like the "lj-exodus", the Grey Areas thread, the Ms debacle etc.) I was wondering if anyone thinks a Bustie history thread would be a good idea. I'm kind of nervous about the idea because it has the potential to wake up bad blood that might be settled. On the other hand could be a positive thing to remember how things started here and how we've developed - we might even figure out who started Hip-Mama (I seem to remember it being Metagrrl - or another M-grrl, when she found out she was pregnant omg ga ga gawd, but that might have just been where the thread was pruned when I came along). What do you guys think?
pollystyrene
A few weeks ago, I posted a link to a song that was on that Bustie Radio thing (remember that?!) and I thought it would be nice to have an old-timers thread to reminisce (I have a notebook somewhere at my parents' house that I was smart enough to write down all the songs that were on there; I just need to find it) and like you said, girl_logic, to work through some history and bad blood.

I'd be up for that...y'know, assuming the board doesn't completely implode in the coming weeks. rolleyes.gif
girl_logic
QUOTE(pollystyrene @ Dec 8 2009, 01:09 PM) *
A few weeks ago, I posted a link to a song that was on that Bustie Radio thing (remember that?!) and I thought it would be nice to have an old-timers thread to reminisce (I have a notebook somewhere at my parents' house that I was smart enough to write down all the songs that were on there; I just need to find it) and like you said, girl_logic, to work through some history and bad blood.

I'd be up for that...y'know, assuming the board doesn't completely implode in the coming weeks. rolleyes.gif


I know right, assuming there's anyone LEFT to remember! The bad blood thing is what I'm afraid of. I'm trying to think of ways to make it a positive recollection too. And yes, I remember bust radio smile.gif and the chat feature too, although I never used that.
pollystyrene
QUOTE(girl_logic @ Dec 8 2009, 08:51 PM) *
I know right, assuming there's anyone LEFT to remember! The bad blood thing is what I'm afraid of. I'm trying to think of ways to make it a positive recollection too. And yes, I remember bust radio smile.gif and the chat feature too, although I never used that.


Eh, you didn't miss anything with the chat thing- it never worked, at least not when I tried it.
sevenseconds
Is there an etiquette thread? I'd love to revive it. In fact, I need to revive it.

Coming from the opposite end of the planet where different things are considered natural, funny, polite and too much, where the concept of personal space is virtually non existent... you get the idea.

So if someone can bump the etiquette thread for me that would be lovely, thank you.
pants
I wasn't able to find the old ettiquette thread which I think was in Ab Fad

How would people feel about a new one, maybe in Friends & Family with a tiltle along the lines of

What Would You Do? Modern Day Manners and Social Dilemmas

That way it could encompass basic ettiquette problems and tricky siuations and hypotheticals
stargazer
I couldn't find the etiquette thread either. Not sure if it got eaten by the dingos. I don't know if there is enough of a demand for etiquette queries to warrant a new thread. The Bust General Knowledge seems like a good enough thread. Or, finding a thread for the related etiquette question like some Busties do with family/friends/weddings/motherhoood issues.

On the history of Bust thread, terminology, eh, again, not sure it warrants its own thread. I feel like we would be 1 step from being grouchy old people "Remember the good ol' days when we..." Or, worse, we would be like the Chris Farley show skit. I guess if someone hears terminology or stories used from past discussions...just ask the person who used this term and we'll explain it. As for past stories about drama and in-fighting, I've learned from dealing with preexisting organizations/systems/etc., the less one knows the better off you'll be.
auralpoison
WORD.
momo
Hi everyone,
Is there a thread about playing sports? I looked in OBOH and didn't see anywhere appropriate for me to kvetch about men who can't seem to pass a ball to their female teammates. :-/
auralpoison
OBOH has the Swifter Higher Stronger thread. The was some commentary in the F Word about the whole Elizabeth Lambert unsport-sperson like drama. I started the Athletic Supporters thread, but it got little play despite vetting.
jsmith
Do we have a skin care thread?
stargazer
There is the Don't Hate Me 'Cause I'm Beautiful thread.

There is also the Girl with Bad Skin for those Busties with acne concerns.
momo
Thanks AP--dunno how I missed the Swifter, Higher Stronger!
auralpoison
Huh. I just noticed that we are no longer on the homepage. There used to be a "what's going on in the Lounge" thingy, but it is no more.
stargazer
Yeeaaah. Not sure what that is about. I also noticed that there is a login on the homepage.

Wonder what is up. blink.gif
auralpoison
The login has been there for a long time. It doesn't seem to have anything to do with us, my dealie-o always fills in my info, but it doesn't accept it because I guess registration to whatever it's for doesn't cross over to the Lounge.
jsmith
Do we have a product review thread?

Oh BTW, thanks stargazer, for answering my previous question.
auralpoison
I know there are a couple of review threads AbFad that deal with beauty stuff, I think there's also a Better Business Bureau thread there as well, but there's no proper "review" thread that I am aware of. Anytime I have that kinda question I hit up the Gen Knowledge thread in Media Whores.
auralpoison
*bump* for Issy.
epinephrine
Is there a thread here for discussing cycling, camping, backpacking and outdoorsy stuff? If there isn't, could we talk about starting one?
ketto
I don't think there is but I definitely second it!
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