Jun 18 2006, 12:33 PM
You can buy virgin coconut oil in most health food stores.
Jun 18 2006, 01:41 PM
I'm looking to purchase a hair waver. Can anyone recommend a certain brand? I'd much prefer large flowing mermaid waves to the tight jerry curl crimpy waves most drug store wavers give.
Jun 18 2006, 04:23 PM
Yeah I got mine when Whole Foods was having a sale. Like everything else in the world, you can also get it online.
Jun 18 2006, 10:09 PM
**Whew!** It's been a while since I've been to my favorite forum - Just wanted to announce that a few months ago I finally chopped my fried, fried, relaxed hair and after my awkward stage, I have a crazy thick curly hear of hair that I wore in a great Afro this w/e! My mom told me I reminded her of Foxy Brown, and I've been (thank god) receiving compliments on the new do, which has helped tremendously. All hair politics aside, I've been afraid of leaving the comfort zone of "past the shoulders, relaxed hair." Now I've realized that this crazy puff or hair is much more my speed! My goal for the summer - maybe some color! I also use coconut oil and massage it into my scalp - prolly good for your nails and hands anyway. I've heard sweet almond oil is also good and great scented, too. I fight with dryness, so I've been considering the CO method, too...sorry so long, had to give a little background since I'm new to the thread!
Jun 19 2006, 06:21 PM
Rock on, Fatbottomgirl! (Love the screen name, heh.)
Jun 19 2006, 07:12 PM
fbg, coconut oil has been proven to prevent protein loss so it's great for keeping hair (and nails) strong as well as moisturized! I love the smell, too.
Jun 19 2006, 10:38 PM
One more question....what's the difference between regular coconut oil and virgin coconut oil? Virgin is twice as expensive at my health food store so I wanted to make sure there was an important difference before I went for it
Jun 25 2006, 12:52 PM
I got a haircut yesterday (my guy likes shoulder-length hair) and I ended up chopping off 5 inches of my golden locks. *cries* I looked in the mirror afterwards, and regretted it intensely. I just don't like it at all. Le sigh. It even brought me to tears before dinner. I loved my hair, but I a) wanted to try something new and thought I would like it, and b) wanted also to make my guy happy with a bit shorter hair.
But alas, hair grows... so hopefully I will feel much better about my hair come the holidays! I just won't look in the damn mirror until then. Heh. =S
Anyone else ever looked in the mirror after a hair"chop" and thought "My god! What the hell did I let him/her DO?!"
Jun 25 2006, 02:31 PM
i got my hair cut yesterday (finally gave in to getting rid of the terrible frizzies) and now i have the fucking cutest mia farrow sideswept pixie cut EVER. god i love my stylist. and i'm going back in two weeks because she and i cooked up this great idea for dying it, i'm going to go deep red with a bleached part under my bangs, around the face, and at the nape of the neck. i used to have pixie cuts all the time, but i used to do them myself, and they were, of course, never this adorable. i'm really happy with it.
oh and i tipped her $5, just gave her the money and didn't say anything about it. i hope that's not inappropriate.
Jun 25 2006, 07:32 PM
Seraphine, if it weren't for your guy, would you like it better? If so, then tell him that hair grows, and just go on without worrying. If not, I'm sorry for the hair disaster. Never mind what he'll think of it or even all those people who'll insist on telling you how great it looks; hating your own hair answers to nobody else's taste, and it SUCKS.
Jun 25 2006, 09:46 PM
maimy, actually it's my guy who's in love with it, as I mentioned in the LDR/OR thread. I'm the one who prefers longer hair. Go figure! Oh well. If nothing else, he keeps saying how beautiful I look. And I am beginning to feel it, too. =) I'll end up growing it out, maybe so far as to mid-back, but in the meantime as the lovely pepper suggested, I am going to play with pinning up parts and using certain products that just didn't cater well to my longer hair. Thanks for the reply!
Jun 26 2006, 12:02 AM
Does anybody have experience with Manic Panic dyes? I'd like a few chunky turquoise streaks, but I've heard nothing especially good about MP, that it stains everything it comes into contact with and washes out/fades quickly. Anyone...?
Jun 26 2006, 12:37 AM
...yeah, herc, unfortunately that's pretty much the breaks with manic panic et al. but it looks cool for a while. maybe ask your hairdresser if they have any recommendations for stuff that stains less and holds better?
i did red/pink manic panic a couple of times, and it looked awesome for a while actually, but my pillowcase turned pink and when i went swimming i came out of the water with red dripping all down my body. gross.
Jun 26 2006, 05:21 AM
Seraphine, I felt like that after my haircut last week; it's a razored bob that is shorter than I expected it to be, and I kept catching sight of myself in shop windows and thinking 'yikes! Where's all my hair gone?' But by the next day I really liked it and now I'm really pleased that my hairdresser intuited that this was the cut I wanted, despite all my wussy 'not too short!' comments. I think it can take a day or two to get used to a cut, work out how to style it etc.
Mouse, pixie cuts are awesome!
Jun 26 2006, 07:07 AM
Herc, it does stain, but if you have no qualms about hair colour, you can always colour over it.
Turquoise sounds cute, BTW. I went in and asked for blue bangs, but my hairdresser didn't have any blue dye on hand, so I got red streaks instead.
Jun 26 2006, 03:38 PM
I wonder how similar our new cuts are?
mine has already grown out scads more than I think I thought was possible in the short 2 weeks sinse I cut it all off, so maybe a trim next week or soon after?
my stylist was wrong, this cut does not allow me the luxury of my natural curl to come out, was just ugly & nothing when I tried, nor did the sharp side part work either, but I'm still learning w/ this.. figuring things out.
the blond underbangs & stuff sounds adorable!
let us know how it turns out?
Jun 26 2006, 05:21 PM
Busty: Pic. TURES. Please, ma'am!
Seraphine - my apologies, reading too late and comprehending too little! Glad you're coming to dig it. Hope it is fun.
Freckle, let us know how the experimentation goes. (I love a good side part, it can be so foxay!)
Jun 26 2006, 06:49 PM
(((seraphine))) 5 inches is a lot of hair! i hope the new 'do grows on you, babe. (no pun intended. k. well. maybe a little. hee.) my trim two weeks ago is the shortest yet, and i'm still feeling rather naked, especially when i go to wash my hair and there's like NOTHING on the back of my neck. but i'm loving the lightweight feel now that it's summer.
sybarite, i wish i had the cajones for a razored bob. that's what i aspire to. maybe i'll talk to my stylist. but only after the humid's gone.
and now, for your viewing pleasure ...
me & the boy
crap shot of me, good shot of the 'do
Jun 26 2006, 06:56 PM
mando- you're beautemous!! ( yes sp I know)
luv the cut but esp the high & low lights, natural but special, you know?
the boy is darn handsome too, send That/Those pics to your fam <coughcough>.
Jun 26 2006, 08:31 PM
mandolyn, you're beautiful. it seems everyone says that but i had to add my agreement. you should do a razored bob! it would look great.
freckle! maybe we do have the same cut. mine looks a lot like this
except my bangs are a bit longer. i'm actually pretty nervous about doing the red/bleaching. i think i want to keep it kind of dark, auburny red instead of super-irish-red. but it will be interesting. and i can always dye it back if i hate it.
ETA i'm giddy cos i've been getting a ton of compliments; one of my coworkers AND my boss both expressed wanting to get the same cut. unfortunately i don't think it would look good on my boss, and she's very interested in getting it, and i don't want to be responsible for her hating it. ah! haha.
Jun 27 2006, 06:36 AM
You lovely Bust babes:
Someone please tell me the secret to fighting frizzy summer hair! The products that say they work lie!!
Jun 27 2006, 11:14 AM
Lillymarkman, it depends on the type of hair you have. A smoothing product containing silicon can keep the frizzies at bay, but isn't such a good idea if you have fine hair (weighs it down and makes it look greasy). If you can get away with it, I recommend washing your hair less frequently and using a wide-tooth comb instead of a brush. You can wet it and use a little conditioner, but avoid the shampoo for as long as you can. Also, wrapping your wet hair in an old t-shirt to dry it (instead of using a towel) works wonders for frizzies: the cuticle of the hair isn't as roughed up by the finer fibers in the t-shirt.
Jun 27 2006, 11:30 AM
i use HASK PLACENTA spray on my hair..... i know it sounds GROSS but it works to smooth your hair cuticle and repair damage that could cause frizz etc etc..... it's pretty cheap, i just saw some at KMart today.... you can get it at Sally's too.... if it's something you're ok with using, you could try it.... it contains "placenta protien" hence the name....
Jun 27 2006, 12:59 PM
voodoo_princess, <3 Hask Placenta. It's incredibly good for hair--about up to par with Sebastian's 'Potion 9' in my book. Woot for rubbing placenta protein and bright orange goo (Potion 9) into damp hair!
lillymarkman, try Biosilk's 'Silk Therapy' line for frizz. Back when I was working at a beauty supply shop, Biosilk had the most popular 'Silk Therapy Serum' and 'Smoothing Balm' for frizzy hair. They also have a smoothing shampoo and conditioner as well. Use the serum and balm sparingly, though. As herculesgirl said, it can weigh down the hair and make it look greasy if too much is used. (Great tips, btw, herculesgirl).
mandolyn, and everyone, thank you! I'm getting used to my hair now. It sure beats the heat in this California summer. Yay!
Jun 27 2006, 05:09 PM
(Mouse - VERY cute!)
Jun 28 2006, 06:28 AM
Hey Blanchedeveraux! I have been playing with extensions for years and I love them - right now I have platinum dreadlocks and they look fab. You can get long extensions done once your hair is at least 12 cm (4 - 5 inches) long and they will look great if done by a professional. Check www.hairpolice.com
, they are the best!
I love their extensions which are braided in and not the heat technique - the damage can be major if it is not done right. Beware of hairdressers that will talk you into the heat process! Ask them to see some clients they did! You can leave braided extensions in for 2-3 months and most extensions can be reused. It's a cool way to bridge the nasty transition between short and long hair and a very creative way to play with your looks, using different styles and colours. Costs depend on how much you will need. Good extensions are not cheap, I paid about 300 Euros.
Jun 29 2006, 08:00 AM
thanks for the kind compliments, y'all!
my favorite anti-humidity hair products:
- Sleek look by Matrix Smoothing System Lite #2 Styling Creme (#3 = "extreme" and is too heavy for me, but would be good for thick unruly hair)
- Rusk Str8 Anti-Frizz/Anti-Curl Lotion
- Sebastian Shaper Plus Hair Spray
- Sebastian Laminates Hair Spray
i've also recently been having good results with pantene pro-v restoratives frizz control shampoo & conditioner and their anti-humidity hair spray. which is nice, because they're cheap. but i'm not usually a pantene-lovah.
of course, nothing works as well as Kerastase Nutritive Bain Satin Nutrition 1 Shampoo; Bain Oleo-Relax, Smoothing Shampoo; and Nutritive Lait Nutri-Sculpt, Smoothing Hair Foundation ... but they're ridiculously expensive. i still lust for them, tho.
mandi, the anti-humidity queen
Jun 30 2006, 12:00 AM
Hey everyone. I haven't visited this part of the bust boards in ages but I came in here because I have a question (about hair, of course).
I was just wondering if anyone has ever done Japanese hair straightening (aka thermal reconditioning) with their hair? If so, how was it? I'm just curious because I'm really sick of flat ironing my hair only to have it get frizzy and gross the second I go outside.
Jul 4 2006, 04:55 AM
woo, i got batteries for the digicamera AND a flickr account! glamourz shotz yo
. i have been pretty anonymous on this board so far but it seems that my most incriminating posts have been lost to the dingos or the ether(net), so, screw it. hee.
anyway, who thinks i should go deeper red with blonde streaks? i like the idea, but i think it might look too hipster/rockabilly, which is something i kind of want to stay away from. i like being a little less pigeonholeable. any thoughts?
Jul 4 2006, 08:23 AM
Mouse, I love that cut. IMO I would leave it as is, as I'm not crazy about streaks in short-short hair. The colour right now seems to show off the cut well.
Jul 4 2006, 09:11 AM
Hey Candy Cane - I have Japanese friends using the procedure for years with no problem and blonde European friends seeing destastrous results. It is a treatment desinged for asian hair - which is a) usually not processed and b) has a stronger hair shaft. I would only go for it if your hair is very healthy and thick.
Jul 4 2006, 09:46 AM
hey, tatina. Thanks for the info! I have been told that my hair is very healthy, I haven't dyed it in ages and I guess technically it's part Asian because my dad's Indian. Of course usually when people say Asian they mean Chinese, Japanese, etc but still, I think my half Indian heritage has given me somewhat strong, healthy hair.
Anyway, I just had a consult today and the stylist seemed to think that my hair would be fine so I'm going to go get it done on Tuesday! I can't wait!
Jul 4 2006, 01:55 PM
RE: hair straightening. Is the the Japanese thermal procedure still really pricey? I considered getting that done a few years ago when I first heard about it, but balked at the price; at that time, it was $700-$1000 for the treatment. Waaay out of my price range, so I didn't do it. So I'm curious as to the price today. And please let us know the results of how yours went, Candycane Girl.
So I've always have had very curly hair and my attempts to straighten it myself--especially to keep it straight for more than a few hours--haven't been very successful. But recently, my mom, whose hair is even curlier and kinker than mine, had hers professionally straightened(not thermal, just chemically) and it looks so great that I went to her stylist. This woman used relaxer on my hair that she uses for what she calls "ethnic" (i.e. black) hair, and the result has been phenomenal! Never before has my hair been so stick-straight, and it's been almost a month since it was done. My hair is long (about 4 inches past shoulder-length) and many people have told me how young I look with long, straight hair. Even ratboy says he sometimes still does a double-take when he sees my hair--LOL. As a bonus, it also looks and feels far healthier and shinier than before. And it's impervious to the humidity when I go outside--no more frizz! BTW, the cost (for both the straightening and the trim) was only $60.00. I tipped her generously, so of course I ended up spending a bit more, but it was well worth it, believe me. I just wish I'd done this a long time ago!
The products I use on it are:
Matrix Biolage Hydrating Shampoo
Soft Sheen Carson Optimum Oil Therapy Conditioner
Paul Mitchell Leave-In Moisturizer and Conditioner
John Frieda Frizz-Ease Hair Serum (while it's still wet) and
John Frieda Secret Weapon Finishing Creme (after it's dry)
I don't have a scanner; otherwise I'd put in a picture of my straight-hair self. BTW, Mando, you--and your hair--look great!
Jul 4 2006, 02:37 PM
Mouse, that is a GREAT reason to de-lurk!! Adorable. Also, I agree with Sybarite - the color is beautiful.
I had a friend who started the thermal straightening procedure when it was somewhat new around here (four years ago - and she drove 100 miles to get it done), and it seemed to me it really dulled her hair. It always looks like she had product buildup. (She had medium-thick caucasian hair.)
Jul 4 2006, 02:46 PM
Y'know, the first time I ever had my hair chemically processed I was eleven years old. I looked like a little black Alice in Wonderland with my bangs & bows. I'm thirty-one now & have embraced my messy curls. I look more youthful with sprigs of curls surrounding my face, but I do sometimes miss the big, modified Marilyn Monroe I used to wear. Saves me time & hairspray.
Jul 4 2006, 03:33 PM
omg, mouse...i LOVE your hair!
I love the cut, I love the color, I love everything! Seriously.
My face, I think is too wide to have anything that short. But if I could pull it off, I would totally try. As far as putting blonde streaks and a deeper red, I think it sounds cute. I definitely like the deeper red idea, but I think your color is absolutely fine now. Is that your natural hair color?
Jul 4 2006, 03:51 PM
Your hair looks awesome, mouse. I think it'd look cute the the streaks and all, but it looks really nice the way it is.
Jul 5 2006, 06:43 PM
hello all! i've never posted in here before, but i desperately need you girls' help! my friend has curly hair and wanted to relax it and then dye it! now, i have straight hair so i wouldn't know anything about relaxers, but this seems like it's inviting disaster. what is the standard time to wait to dye hair after it's been relaxed? and is powder hair dye any gentler than other box kinds? (She plans to use waterworks powder dye.) i have been scouring the internet without much useful info about this. any help or info would be greatly appreciated!
Jul 5 2006, 07:53 PM
mouse, I love your cut!
ratgrl, right now, the going rate (in Canada) is about $300. Anymore than that and it's a ripoff. My cousin found someone to do hers for $120 but that's in Vancouver where there's a big Asian population and lots of people do the Japanese hair straightening. Where I live there isn't as much choice, but I feel that $300 is worth not having to get so annoyed at how my hair reacts to the humidity and any tiny bit of moisture.
koshkasbritvas, I think you're right about your friend inviting disaster to her hair. I don't know anything about powder hair dye but I would still say that it sounds pretty risky.
Jul 5 2006, 08:32 PM
You have to wait a couple weeks in between doing the relaxer and then the dye. Otherwise, she'll be a very sad girl. I don't think it's a smart idea for her to try two new processes around the same time. Relaxing the hair can be very harsh and you have to really take care of it. And we all know what dye can do. Tell her to hold off on the dye until she's sure about the whole relaxer thing, because the harshness of it depends on the texture of her hair. I think it would be worth it to consult a hairstylist about it.
Jul 5 2006, 08:38 PM
beeeeeeeeee! thanks for all the compliments ladies. it is mostly my natural haircolor; i dyed it a couple of shades darker than it usually is a few months ago, but it's mostly faded back to the original. my roots are a little lighter, but not noticeably. i think i may forgo the red and bleaching, the reasons being twofold: one, i'm worried about it being too hipster-stylee, and two, i'm still poor and have other things i would rather be spending money on.
koshkasbritvas: maybe your friend could try henna dyes? what color does she want to dye it? henna's primarily reds and auburns, but you can get other colors too. i've had a lot of good experiences with henna, and it's all natural and good for your hair to boot.
Jul 15 2006, 05:41 PM
Hi everyone, this is my first post in this newly designed forum! Anyway, onto the actual topic. I went through with the Japanese straightening and I love it! I would post a picture but I don't have a before to compare it to. Anyway, I've been told that it's good to do protein/deep conditioning treatments on my hair now, to keep it soft, but I don't know what products to use. Any suggestions?
Jul 16 2006, 04:47 AM
Hello there! A part of the lounge I've never posted in before - I'm a little scared.
I need your help. How do you do the fun quiff style thing? I always try but bits fall out and it looks silly and i get angry and I was wondering if anyone had step by step instructions. (Bustygirl.... I know you'd be able to do this!)
And a bit late, but I want to squee a little at mouse's hair. Its gorgeous. I wish I could rock short hair.
Jul 16 2006, 03:17 PM
punkerplus -- i love your icon! where'd you get it? i actually know the girl who does those, and i keep seeing her stuff in all these great new places. like in an adidas ad?! or are you a French grafitti nut and i just didn't know it?
now on to hair. i have that same problem. everyone has these quirky piecey updos and every time i try it just looks silly. i would love a step by step on that.
also, in a similar vein, i'm feeling a haircut jones. my hair is getting long now, and i like it long, but i feel like as my hair grows it really lacks shape and style. and since i have no idea how to fix it up, i wear it down all the time and it looks stringy and flat and gross. i made a hair appointment for a few weeks from now, and i've decided to start observing cool people with cool hairstyles and try to get some inspiration.
every cool hairstyle i see is a way of doing up long hair.
so what should i do? should i cut some shape into it, sacrificing the length that would allow me to acheive what i apparently really want, which is long hair pulled up? should i just cut it? does anyone have some long hair transition styles, or a good website where i could figure this out? my hair is straight and fine and not terribly thick. it's about shoulder length now, slightly longer in front due to the aftermath of a razor-cut bob.
i love Mouse's hair, but bangs make me look like a 5 year old. so that style is out of the question.
Jul 16 2006, 07:36 PM
bklyn, what i used to do was start with a ponytail, leaving the front few inches down. then take small/medium bits of hair and bobby-pin them up (depending on how long your hair is, you can pin the same piece up 2-4 times, making little 'loops' however you want them). then pin some of the front back and up and loopy like the rest, or you can put it all back (depending on how you like bits hanging by your face. the big thing is to really be kinda lazy/half-assed about it. because if you're trying *really hard* to make it look cute and imperfect, it usually just ends up looking bad, but if you're actually relaxed about how it ends up looking it comes out much nicer
Jul 17 2006, 10:36 AM
I'm just a graffiti nut in general actually bklyn! She is by far my favourite artist though. The icon I just found on the internet but I did see some of her work in Barcelona and oh its so much better in real life. I can't believe you know her. Sigh.
Ok, back on topic. If you have some shape cut into your hair it doesn't necessarily mean you won't be able to wear it up. If you had long layers that'd be fine I'd imagine.
I just get so fed up of wearing my growing out fringe is a side swept mess. Its a vicious cycle of me trying to grow out my hair and fringe, getting annoyed, getting it all cut off, and so on. Also I keep a log of people with cool hair that I see on the internet, so when I want to get my hair cut its there. I'm sure they'd be terrified to know that.
And so the key is little bits at a time, not all at once. I'm going to go and practice!
Jul 17 2006, 11:37 AM
Punkerplus, it will kill your hair, but try backcombing your fringe so it stays off your forehead, then shaping it with hairspray so it goes 'quiff-like'.
I could never get my fringe to stay off my forehead, which is why I don't have one anymore. I'm too afraid of growing it out...
Jul 20 2006, 10:13 AM
Okay, I can't quite believe I did this, but I got a bit restless yesterday with my hair, went into a salon as a walk-in, and CUT IT ALL OFF! I had no idea how long my hair really had got, but the stylist measured it and she cut off a FOOT. She suggested donating it (which I hadn't thought about), so I have this foot-long ponytail of hair to mail off today. Now it's 2-3 inches long all over my head, in a kind of piece-y, razored-y kind of way....gah. I'm still in shock....I do sort of like it, though....
Jul 20 2006, 10:46 AM
wow! sixelacat!!!! man spontaneous drastic haircuts are the BEST. pictures??? honestly i think that's the worst thing about having short hair to begin with--you can't get all dramatic and go "I'M CUTTING MY HAIR ALL OFF!!!". it's just kind of......anti-climactic. nothing like the first time!
you should do something ridiculous with the leftover hair, like make a purse. or a HAT! that would be hilarious.
Jul 21 2006, 02:20 AM
Yeah! Go sixelacat! Did anything spur you on? Or was it really a spur of the moment, devil be damned haircut? We want before and after pics!