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Kiana
Hello all,

As many have said before, I am SOOOOOOOOOOOOO glad I found this forum. I have had BV on and off for..wow...6 years or so. I am not sure how or when it started, but since I was 17 or 18 I remember wanting to plug up the smell with a tampon and thats what I would do!! I feel weird typing here all this that I think is TMI...but after reading all 52 pages (which took me 3 days!!!) I know you ladies understand smile.gif

I have done all the prescribed medication, and of course it always comes back! Mine I have noticed comes back probably 90% of the time after having sex - unprotected. But if I am ok for the time being and the boyfriend doesnt do the deed in me, I am usually pretty good. For the past 10 months after prescribed treatment and not letting him cum (can I say that here, lol) in me very often I stayed pretty clean, but last month it came back!!!! Why i dont know, but I decided to try other measures. The HP you have talked about, I tried. I used a big syringe and it stayed up there pretty well...let it out and wow the smell. Then it started burning pretty good, which scared me, but the next day, no discharge no funk!!!

I had to go to the doc last week for an annual and she gave me meds, which I took. Then I got a call saying I had yeast too!!! the pain.... dry.gif How that works I have NO idea...but it did.

Now I am taking acidophilous, which in the past worked pretty well for me. and if it comes back I will be doing HP too. I felt that worked so well when I tried.

As for other inquiring questions, it didnt stem from BC I was on that for a few years before I can remember my first experience. BUT I was young, it still could of been hormones - which I used to think is why I got this and after age it would go away (as a doc once told me) but here I am still getting the plague.

Wow, what a novel...I hope some of you survived this story. But I just had to share. I have done my share of research and whatever help I can give or gain - I am glad I found this place.
jewelscando
Sassy,

I went to Walgreens and bought a Baby medicine dropper. It fits perfectly in there and you have to just sqeeze it in and don't let go, because obviously, the dropper will suck it back up. Works really well for me. It does run out a little bit, but not to bad.

I'm back on Metronidazole 200 mg twice a day. I know, I know, but I just couldn't take it, being that I break out in a rash from the Boric Acid. I'm only going to use this for two weeks, then go back to HP. HP works really well. I had real heavy gray discharge, then used HP, and it all came pouring out, literally. Now it's gone. And smell is completely gone. So, since I won't be having sex for a while, I figured I'd try the medicine and go to HP. And, I'm slowly quitting smoking.

WELCOME NEWBIES!!
Eralc Alegna
WHY THE HELL AM I THE ONLY ONE THAT THE HP DOESN'T WORK FOR?!?!?!?

I'll do it and it works for a couple of hours, if that.

And I'm really interested in seeing a repoductive endocronologist but Hmmm, you said you had to leave the fucking country to go see one, didn't you?
Plus I'm definitely still experiencing smell along with the discharge. Aren't most of us here??
pianogirl
Welcome Kiana!

I should try the HP since my period is almost over...I'd really like to see this nasty discharge pouring out...so I guess I'm like the only one who was still using the boric sad.gif

I also plan on starting the estroil on thursday....smile.gif

I will keep you ladies posted..

thanks

PG
quietmadness
What about just using a douche bottle to put the HP up there and then holding it in? Wouldn't that work?

I think I'll try that...although the BA has been working, still have to keep using it.
jewelscando
SASSY, YOU'LL LOVE THIS!! GOT AN EMAIL FROM THE MAKERS OF ENZARA!! HERE IT IS:

Hi,

I'm Alex Caudill. This January at Selmedica
Healthcare, we're looking for input from you.

My understanding is that you've purchased Enzara
or subscribed to our bacterial vaginosis
newsletter (if this is incorrect, I apologize - please
scroll to the end of the message and click the unsubscribe
link.). I'd simply like for you to respond to this message
with absolutely any feedback you want to give us. Have
you had any experience with Enzara or our customer
service agents?

We'd like for you to take a moment and share it with us,
so that we can better serve you in the future.

Also in the interests of better serving our customers, we're
proud to announce the launch of our new, reformulated Enzara.
It has been in development over the course of the last half
of 2006, and we believe it is head and shoulders above any
other homeopathic bacterial vaginosis treatment on Earth.

http://www.enzara.com/

We believe it so much that we have a 365 day money back guarantee.

Have a great year!
SHC
sassy
Wow...that's great jewels. Do you think Enzara ever worked for anyone? I never did get my money back because you had to fill out pages of forms and write an essay to describe why you were returning the product. You should definately tell them some feedback!!

autumnbreeze
Jewels: That's great, you get to provide feedback on Enzara! Please let us know about this "reformulated" Enzara. Thanks.
pianogirl


Hey Jewels,

I ordered Enzara a while ago and ended up returning the product and the did mail me a check....anyway I was looking at their site and they have photos of various magazines I guess they were featured in these magazines...

Anyway I am wondering what is so new about their product so I emailed them...please let us know that they tell you smile.gif

Thanks
PG





Nevermind I read that selmedica makers of Enzara might not be a real company and sell many products other than Enzara sad.gif

http://www.licerx.com/selmedica-healthcare.htm


http://www.ripoffreport.com/results.asp?q1...p;Search=Search

Here is another site with information
sassy
Those links are scary!! I knew the stuff was crap, but I had no idea that they weren't even a real company. I actually had my credit information stolen not long ago and I still can't figure out from where and this information makes me think that ordering Enzara from them could have been the culprit.
neverending
Damn! That's horrible Sassy. What happened?
deprime
Enzara NEVER worked for me. When I called to return it, it sounded like a sham operation -- very unprofessional. This random guy picks up the phone --it sounded like he was sitting in a fast food restaurant at the time -- and gives me a "code" to write on the package for the return.

BTW - I made an appointment with a reproductive endocrinologist for the first week of March. I hope that he'll actually LISTEN to my concerns. No one else is messing with this student of public health!
pianogirl


Here is what they wrote....

The ingredients did not change, only the percentages of them. The product is still backed with a 1 year guarantee. Thank you.

Brooke
Customer Care Supervisor
Selmedica Healthcare
www.selmedica.com

pianogirl
QUOTE(deprime @ Jan 17 2007, 04:21 PM) *

Enzara NEVER worked for me. When I called to return it, it sounded like a sham operation -- very unprofessional. This random guy picks up the phone --it sounded like he was sitting in a fast food restaurant at the time -- and gives me a "code" to write on the package for the return.

BTW - I made an appointment with a reproductive endocrinologist for the first week of March. I hope that he'll actually LISTEN to my concerns. No one else is messing with this student of public health!



Thats one thing of alot of things i hate about my ogyn they look and talk to you like you are dumb and this is all in your head..I am actually in search of a new one b/c this one is cold and doesnt seem interested in anything I have to say....


please keep us posted.
smile.gif

thanks

PG
jewelscando
yeah, I researched the company as well. They supposively have numerous negative marks through the BBB. And they are a "Get Rich Quick" type company. I guess we could all go to work for them and sell their crap, to pay for our useless doctors visits. hahahahahahaha
sassy
Maybe jewels...haha. The company itself has tons of different herbal medications. Some are really out there... As for my credit situation, I hadn't used a particular card since my freshman year in college--it was for emergencies when I was on campus--and then about a month ago it randomly had some charges on it and they were in another country! When I called the credit people, that tried to act like someone in my family had made the charges. They're investigating it now so we'll see. I just worry that some how my information may have gotten sold through buying Enzara. My account is closed now, though, so I hope its okay.

Deprime...definately want to know what the new doctor says!
deprime
quick question: where did you find estroil?
pianogirl
Hey,

I ordered my estriol here :
http://www.helenpensanti.com/prodinfo.asp?number=EVS1

Also I found an interesting article..I was wondering if neverending had read it because it lists estroil and that our bodies might need estrogen..


I am starting the estriol tommorow evening.

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_..._n15688829/pg_4


Tonight I did the hydrogen I just finished my period. I was a little nervous b/c the only thing i found in the drug store was a glass dropper....anyway I did it a few times didnt really notice anything coming out when I went to pee smile.gif I was expecting a bunch of crap to fall out. I will see tommorow morning I guess.

smile.gif

PG huh.gif
neverending
Pianogirl: You are RIGHT! Did you see the part that said "As such, many women suffering from atrophic vaginitis often receive incorrect diagnoses and, therefore, inappropriate treatment for months to years before the true cause is identified."

Here I'll post the whole thing:
VERY INTERESTING!
As such, many women suffering from atrophic vaginitis often receive incorrect diagnoses and, therefore, inappropriate treatment for months to years before the true cause is identified.

Estrogen and other factors help to keep the vaginal tissue healthy and pH low. This acidic environment discourages growth of pathogenic bacteria. In atrophic vaginitis, there is an increase in pH (between 5-7) and a corresponding decrease in acidity and, as a result, pathogenic bacteria flourish while protective lactobacilli decrease. This scenario predisposes one to vaginal infection in the already atrophic environment, thereby worsening symptoms. Additionally, the low-estrogen environment leads to atrophy of the urethra and bladder and a subsequent increased susceptibility to urinary tract pain, frequency, incontinence, and infection.

Other factors predisposing to atrophic changes include chemo- and radiation therapy, cigarette smoking, lack of sexual activity, nulliparity, and anti-estrogen medications like Tamoxifen, Provera, and Lupron. Exogenous agents such as perfumes, powders, soaps, deodorants, panty liners, spermicides and lubricants may contain irritant compounds that worsen symptoms. In addition, tight-fitting clothing and long-term use of sanitary pads or synthetic materials can further irritate tissue.

Since the main cause of atrophic vaginitis is low estrogen, estrogen replacement, orally and/or topically, usually leads to complete symptom resolution in a matter of weeks. Estrogens can restore vaginal architecture, pH, flora, fluid secretions, mucosa thickness, blood flow, and sensitivity thereby providing symptomatic relief. Oral estrogens have the additional benefits of relieving other menopause symptoms, such as hot flushes and mood changes
Eralc Alegna
that's it I'm going to buy it. I'm convinced!

Neverending, did you stop taking the estroil after the 3 months or do you use it less frequently to maintain? It'd be nice if this was an actual cure and not something we'll have to do the rest of our lives
kickitkickitkickit
I don't think there is a woman on this planet who feels that she has never smelled or had a odor. I've heard about douching and there are some that say that it is okay and some that disagree. Along with regular cleaning , I use this product as well. This is an amazing product that doesn't cause any irritation and seems to make any odor dissapear. It is pricey at about $14 bucks a box, but worth it. As for the other "douche" type products, I won't touch them.
Eralc Alegna
Okay, we're not just talking odor here. Were talking about life-altering, esteem-destroying, sex life-ruining medical conditions. Don't patronize us.

DO I SMELL SPAM?!?!
neverending
Eralc Alegna: I ONLY USED IT ONCE SINCE
pianogirl
QUOTE(Eralc Alegna @ Jan 19 2007, 11:32 PM) *

Okay, we're not just talking odor here. Were talking about life-altering, esteem-destroying, sex life-ruining medical conditions. Don't patronize us.

DO I SMELL SPAM?!?!



LOL I was thinking the same thing. I tried Rephresh and it did nothing for me...perhaps for some that dont have a really big problem its ok.


The hydrogen peroxide did not do much for I ended up inserting a boric cap. before going to work. I also inserted my first estroil they are really easy to slide up there *keeping fingers crossed*

smile.gif

Oh make sure you order the full kit I only ordered the suppositories there is another thing that has some cream and other stuff..
http://www.helenpensanti.com/prodinfo.asp?number=EVS2%2F%2F3



I plan on ordering the complete kit tommorow.

smile.gif
jewelscando
I used the Metronidazole for only a few days, and it gave me a stomach ache. I haven't taken it now for about 3 days. Well, tonight, I was going to the bathroom, and I had an air bubble. That's always a true sign to me that I have B.V. but, this time, I got a whiff of something not good. So, I layed on the bathroom floor and did the HP. I let it sit for a few minutes, and when I sat up, AGAIN, heavy white discharge was coming out of me. And it was all over the towel. I thought, maybe this is just the HP, foaming up, so I sat on the toilet, and there it came, like all of it at once, just pooring out of me.

So, again, I did the HP a second time, and nothing came out that time.

I don't know why that happens to me, but it almost makes me wonder, what the hell is that coming out of me? Could it possibley be the boric?? Even though I haven't used it in over a month, but, I also have the rash back. Maybe since I had the hysterectomy, the Boric is just up there wondering around aimlessly, and it comes out with the HP.

I know that's a bit far fetched, and if it wasn't so gross, I would have taken a picture of it for you all to see.

You know what it almost looks like?? Have you ever seen baking powder, wet?? It's just like that.
kickitkickitkickit
QUOTE(Eralc Alegna @ Jan 19 2007, 11:32 PM) *

Okay, we're not just talking odor here. Were talking about life-altering, esteem-destroying, sex life-ruining medical conditions. Don't patronize us.

DO I SMELL SPAM?!?!


If thats what you want to call it. At any rate, I have been there with BV and it really is as awful as you've described. My gyn prescribed some medication and along with that I used plain yogurt. Yogurt contains the same lactobili (sorry for the spelling, I know it's probably wrong) and helps to aid in the healing process when applied. As I mentioned in another non-spam reply, phRephresh helps to get rid of odor and balance the PH of your vagina.
pianogirl
QUOTE(jewelscando @ Jan 20 2007, 02:15 AM) *

I used the Metronidazole for only a few days, and it gave me a stomach ache. I haven't taken it now for about 3 days. Well, tonight, I was going to the bathroom, and I had an air bubble. That's always a true sign to me that I have B.V. but, this time, I got a whiff of something not good. So, I layed on the bathroom floor and did the HP. I let it sit for a few minutes, and when I sat up, AGAIN, heavy white discharge was coming out of me. And it was all over the towel. I thought, maybe this is just the HP, foaming up, so I sat on the toilet, and there it came, like all of it at once, just pooring out of me.

So, again, I did the HP a second time, and nothing came out that time.

I don't know why that happens to me, but it almost makes me wonder, what the hell is that coming out of me? Could it possibley be the boric?? Even though I haven't used it in over a month, but, I also have the rash back. Maybe since I had the hysterectomy, the Boric is just up there wondering around aimlessly, and it comes out with the HP.

I know that's a bit far fetched, and if it wasn't so gross, I would have taken a picture of it for you all to see.

You know what it almost looks like?? Have you ever seen baking powder, wet?? It's just like that.



Wow jewls thats very strange. I did the peroxide and nothing came out of me. I think either you have tons of discaharge up there or could it be the boric after all the time. That is very shocking perhaps you could keep doing the HP till that stuff stops coming out.

Also have you ordered the estroil?




QUOTE(kickitkickitkickit @ Jan 20 2007, 09:11 AM) *

If thats what you want to call it. At any rate, I have been there with BV and it really is as awful as you've described. My gyn prescribed some medication and along with that I used plain yogurt. Yogurt contains the same lactobili (sorry for the spelling, I know it's probably wrong) and helps to aid in the healing process when applied. As I mentioned in another non-spam reply, phRephresh helps to get rid of odor and balance the PH of your vagina.



You are very lucky kickit that all you had to do was take refresh and yougurt. Congrats to you we wish our cases were that simple but they arent. We have tried everything and have yet to find a cure. We have done yogurt, HP, boric acid, rephresh, and much more our docs have precribed tons of medication..I have even spent hundreds of dollars in holistic medicine.

Again you are very lucky that you were able to get rid of yours however our cases are much more serious and from the way it apprears are mostly hormonal related. Balancing the PH does nothing for us b/c our hormones are off..once our hormones are back in balance then our PH will be back on track. This seems to be what has worked for one of our ladies on this board.


Thank you for trying to help but our cases are really bad a horrible odor that wont go away...its rather embarassing.
kickitkickitkickit
QUOTE(pianogirl @ Jan 20 2007, 10:50 AM) *

You are very lucky kickit that all you had to do was take refresh and yougurt. Congrats to you we wish our cases were that simple but they arent. We have tried everything and have yet to find a cure. We have done yogurt, HP, boric acid, rephresh, and much more our docs have precribed tons of medication..I have even spent hundreds of dollars in holistic medicine.

Again you are very lucky that you were able to get rid of yours however our cases are much more serious and from the way it apprears are mostly hormonal related. Balancing the PH does nothing for us b/c our hormones are off..once our hormones are back in balance then our PH will be back on track. This seems to be what has worked for one of our ladies on this board.
Thank you for trying to help but our cases are really bad a horrible odor that wont go away...its rather embarassing.


Nope, I was prescribed some medication and used the rephresh and yogurt. I'm not here to help as much as to share my personal experience with this illness. It used to go away for a few days and then always come back. I asked my boyfriend to get tested because I came back positive with it, and he was also treated for it. So I guess my suggestion would be to have your partner(s) checked out as well. I'd also have your doctors do more tests to try to rule anything else out that could be the culprit. Cut out the sugar and caffeine as much as you can and remember to take this illness one day at a time.
jewelscando
Hey Sassy.....What ever happen to "YankieBreeze"? She hasn't been on in a long time!! I wonder how she is doing!!
Eralc Alegna
QUOTE(kickitkickitkickit @ Jan 20 2007, 12:00 PM) *

I'm not here to help as much as to share my personal experience with this illness.


Excuse me? Did you really just say that? Than please do us all a favor AND GO AWAY. AS QUICKLY AND AS FAR AS POSSIBLE.
How dare you outwardly say you have no interest in helping any of us?! What the hell are you here for then? To hold it over our heads that you're cured and we're not? To dazzle us with your spelling skills? Or is it just to insult us with your run-of-the-mill, regurgitated, health class handout information that we've all known FOR YEARS?
Take a look at this thread. It's at what, about 50 pages now? Do you really think we haven't covered that ground yet?

Way to be all diplomatic and nice pianogirl, but I can't take someone talking down to me(us) like that.
jewelscando
PianoGirl, the link you posted, the one for $43. does that include everything you need?? Or do you have to buy two seperate things, the suppositories, and the cream seperately?? I don't want to buy the wrong thing!!
pianogirl
QUOTE(jewelscando @ Jan 20 2007, 07:07 PM) *

PianoGirl, the link you posted, the one for $43. does that include everything you need?? Or do you have to buy two seperate things, the suppositories, and the cream seperately?? I don't want to buy the wrong thing!!



This is the complete package...I personally brought the wrong one but this is the complete package. You can always double check with neverending. But I believe this is the correct one.


:)Thanks

QUOTE(Eralc Alegna @ Jan 20 2007, 02:25 PM) *

Excuse me? Did you really just say that? Than please do us all a favor AND GO AWAY. AS QUICKLY AND AS FAR AS POSSIBLE.
How dare you outwardly say you have no interest in helping any of us?! What the hell are you here for then? To hold it over our heads that you're cured and we're not? To dazzle us with your spelling skills? Or is it just to insult us with your run-of-the-mill, regurgitated, health class handout information that we've all known FOR YEARS?
Take a look at this thread. It's at what, about 50 pages now? Do you really think we haven't covered that ground yet?

Way to be all diplomatic and nice pianogirl, but I can't take someone talking down to me(us) like that.




It is okay E.A. after all this is someone who is so backwards that posts this in her profile (I checked her out thinking she was spam but shes just not very bright) ....


"I'm not a feminist, don't claim to be, and will never support your movement. I enjoy being 2nd class to my man and staying in an ideal womans role. My job is to make babies and tend to the house."




In short you cant take her seriously...




Eralc Alegna
QUOTE(pianogirl @ Jan 20 2007, 10:59 PM) *

It is okay E.A. after all this is someone who is so backwards that posts this in her profile (I checked her out thinking she was spam but shes just not very bright) ....
"I'm not a feminist, don't claim to be, and will never support your movement. I enjoy being 2nd class to my man and staying in an ideal womans role. My job is to make babies and tend to the house."
In short you cant take her seriously...

All right than I'll just be blunt about it. FUCK THAT BITCH. Fucking making babies is your job... do you really think so little of yourself that the only thing you can accomplish in your opinion is what you're biologically engineered to do? What we just happen to be predisposed to?
I also fart, shit, burp and piss but I don't mistake that as my calling in life.
pollystyrene
*delurking*

It's a tr**l, ladies. That's why the Bustie Goddesses gave us the ignore function. Sorry she disrupted you- I know how seriously you take this thread.
neverending
Hey ladies I'm having a problem. I feel really weak and tired all the time. What could this be? Could I be pregnant again? or is this just anemia?
pianogirl
QUOTE(neverending @ Jan 21 2007, 09:18 PM) *

Hey ladies I'm having a problem. I feel really weak and tired all the time. What could this be? Could I be pregnant again? or is this just anemia?



Oh no! sad.gif

Is your period late? Feeling tired and weak is usually a sign of pregnancy.

neverending
Had period but it was lighter than usual. What does that mean?
jewelscando
Neverending...With all this stuff in our systems and with the stuff you are using, you might want to check with your doctor. There could be many reasons on why your period was light. If you are worried about being pregnant, you can buy a test. Otherwise, I would wait til your next one, and if it's just as light, you might want to go in for a pap or something. Good luck!!!
autumnbreeze
QUOTE(neverending @ Jan 21 2007, 09:18 PM) *

Hey ladies I'm having a problem. I feel really weak and tired all the time. What could this be? Could I be pregnant again? or is this just anemia?



Yes, it could be anemia. I have to take iron also. But as Jewels said it could be something else.
neverending
Thanks Ladies! I'll be seeing the doctor Wed. I'll keep my fingers crossed.
pianogirl


Good luck neverending.


Ladies I just wanted you to know that I am using the estroil and it is amazing I love it.


No smell whatsoever.

I had sex last night (my second day using the estroil) and no smell.

Last night I inserted another one and no smell it is really great.

smile.gif

sassy
jewels...I finally got a dropper to use with the HP and I had the same experience as you, a discharge came out during the process. How weird. Maybe it will help, though.
neverending
pianogirl: That's the same thing I noticed. No smell!(even after sex) That was the first time I had hope that I may be cured from that horrible crap! Anyway keep using it.
I'll let you know what happens Wed.
pianogirl
QUOTE(neverending @ Jan 23 2007, 01:31 PM) *

pianogirl: That's the same thing I noticed. No smell!(even after sex) That was the first time I had hope that I may be cured from that horrible crap! Anyway keep using it.
I'll let you know what happens Wed.



YES keep us posted. I am in love with the estroil...it is so great...oh and unlike the boric acid you dont have runny discharge.


smile.gif

Good luck neverending and many thanks to neverending for discovering and testing the estroil. smile.gif
autumnbreeze
Hi Ladies....is anyone still taking probiotics?
I had stopped taking them and jumped on the folic acid bandwagon but I recently noticed that the HP douche did not work as well as it did when I did it WITH the probiotics huh.gif

Pianogirl: Thanks for the update on the Estroil. I'm glad it's working for you. Question: How long are you supposed to use it?
Eralc Alegna
Congrats pianogirl, one question though. I know the smell is gone, but how is the discharge?

Neverending - hope it's nothing serious. Maybe bring up the estroil and get a doctors opinion (worthless as it may be)? Could be related...

Autumnbreeze - I'm taking them orally about once every morning but I'm not too good about making sure. Never seemed to make a difference for me, orally or vaginally. But then again the HP doesn't either. It's good for like an hour before I want to have sex though
pianogirl
QUOTE(autumnbreeze @ Jan 23 2007, 04:07 PM) *

Hi Ladies....is anyone still taking probiotics?
I had stopped taking them and jumped on the folic acid bandwagon but I recently noticed that the HP douche did not work as well as it did when I did it WITH the probiotics huh.gif

Pianogirl: Thanks for the update on the Estroil. I'm glad it's working for you. Question: How long are you supposed to use it?


I ordered the wrong package with just the suppositores and no instructions. I placed another order for the complete package. I belive it is just for 2 weeks straight and some maintenance for a few months. I will let you know when I recieve the complete pacakage.

smile.gif

QUOTE(Eralc Alegna @ Jan 23 2007, 09:10 PM) *

Congrats pianogirl, one question though. I know the smell is gone, but how is the discharge?

Neverending - hope it's nothing serious. Maybe bring up the estroil and get a doctors opinion (worthless as it may be)? Could be related...

Autumnbreeze - I'm taking them orally about once every morning but I'm not too good about making sure. Never seemed to make a difference for me, orally or vaginally. But then again the HP doesn't either. It's good for like an hour before I want to have sex though



I hope there isnt a problem with the estroil either. sad.gif

I have always had some discharge even before the BV, mine is back to normal no smell at all and a sticky clear discharge. I have gone to the bathroom several times to check if I smell and check the consistency of the discharge. I still wear a panty liner, the estroil is a suppository that disolves right away so try wearing a pad when you insert it before bed.

I had sex tonight and a whole bunch of white stuff came out from up there however it might be the estroil because I insert it super high.


No smell at all and my discharge is just how I remember it to be. I am very happy with this product I feel so much better about this problem. My bf even smelled his hands and there was no smell. I used to use the boric like everyday however this is much better as I dont have boric discahrge all day and I am not as dry as I used to be.

smile.gif


deprime
Congrats, PianoGirl, with the estroil!

I really want to purchase it, but I have a slight hesitation: With every product I've used to combat BV, they've worked for the first couple days and then have done nothing. I bought this wonderful liquid tea tree oil soap in France that worked wonderfully for a couple of days and then it was back to normal... Same for the Enzara. The estroil sounds so different -- and I figure (for me at least) that the lack of "good" estrogen is the last plausible explanation out there for my chronic BV.

In unrelated news, I feel like my discharge sometimes smells like urine.. I know I don't have incontinence issues, though, because I was thoroughly checked out by a urologist to rule out any possibility of that.

I'll buy the estroil and see how it works. Then, I can report those results to the reproductive endocrinologist in March.

Again, congrats PianoGirl on the success. I hope that we can all share it with you!!
autumnbreeze
QUOTE(deprime @ Jan 23 2007, 11:15 PM) *


In unrelated news, I feel like my discharge sometimes smells like urine.. I know I don't have incontinence issues, though, because I was thoroughly checked out by a urologist to rule out any possibility of that.


Deprime: I know what you mean about this. We throw the word "fishy" around alot but actually the odor (in my case) is a strong Ammonia + a hint of Fish . And I think it's that ammonia aroma that smells similar to urine. I did some more research on BV and vaginal infections and there was a lot of info cross referenced on oxygen and ammonia in the body, digestive system disorders, mineral deficiencies, and the "pH diet". I think it's all related unsure.gif


Eralc Alegna: Thanks for responding. When I was taking the probiotics, I didn't really think they were working either but maybe they were because now when I do the HP douche, it doesn't keep the symptoms at bay as long as it did when I was also taking the probiotics. I still have a bottle from before so I think I'll start taking them again and stick to it this time. I'm also anxious to see how the others fare with the Estroil.
chantelhugo
hi everyone, its been a while.. i have been following daily, just not posted. Anyways this is fucking ruining my life. I am so frusterated and I know its not from sex because I had it since I was about 16 (I was a virgin) and now I'm almost 19. I have no possible idea what its from, all i know is that its ruining me and i havent had sex in over a year. I think im going to go on the birth control Yasmin, I heard it can balance out my hormones, and am i too young to take estrogen? When my doctor ran blood tests he said my testesterone was high so it must have something to do with my hormones. This is ridicilious and im considering ordering metrozidale again as it worked before but came right back. Does anyone know where i can order it w/out a prescription?
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