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ilovehim
QUOTE(arj75 @ May 5 2007, 09:52 PM) *
I was recently diagnosed with bv. But I have been suffering from it for about 2 years now. I don't have health insurance and I'm a single mom, so going to the doctor week after week, I simply can't afford. I tried to treat it on my own for several months. It comes back whenever I have sex and after my period. Right before I resorted to going to the doctor I did something really stupid and douched 2 nights in a row with straight hydrogen perioxide and I made it worse. I started having a brown discharge and bleeding after sex. I have went through 2 rounds of 96 $ x 2 of Metronidazole and it made it go away until I had sex again. While I was using the gel, I had big huge nasty ass clumps of white shit speckled with blood. Is it possible to have a yeast infection and bv at the same time? I have tried garlic, hydrogen p, yogurt, antibacterial soap ( wash with it like mf) is that bad? I tried the zinc and vitimin c combo ( but stopped when I freaked myself out about overdosing with the zinc. My boyfriend thinks I'm cheating on him because up until about 5 months ago, the fishy smell was very mild, now it is so strong, it makes me want to vomit. It's driving me crazy, I think I would rather have had been diagnosed with herpes than this shit, ( I don't have nor have I ever had an std). Has anyone been so desperate to try the products sold online..you know with the Yeah, yeah, you'll get your money back if it doesn't work... This bv is driving me insane, which may be the reason I'm having anxiety attacks on a daily basis, and now I'm on prozac. (which isn't helping either. Has anyone been cured from simply not drinking coffee anymore and by quiting smoking? Does anyone have the time to list the top ten home remendies and the amount I should use it and the number of days. I don't want to kill myself trying to treat it.



Girl believe me I feel your pain! This bv shit sucks so bad! The only thing I can tell you, is that you don't stand alone and here we are... MANY other women suffering with this disease. It's hard and yeah you might lose alot of confidence, and self esteem but this too shall pass. I hope everything goes well for you and truthfully I hope it goes away sooner than later. It's such an embarassing problem, and all of us are searching for a solution. We'll keep you updated! =)
lori
QUOTE(jewelscando @ May 6 2007, 11:53 AM) *
Hope that answers your question!!

Yes, thanks Jewels!

Hope you hear from your doctor tomorrow Morphia!
arj75
Thanks to you all for your kindness. I am realllly glad that I found this forum. I have read a lot of what has been posted about different theories and such forth. I find it all interesting. I have many questions, as I'm sure many of you all do. I'll try not to wear you all out. But I'm on break from school for 2 weeks so I'm gonna learn as much as I can during this time. There are probably a million different ways to get bv but I know what didn't cause mine. Never been of birth control, never douched before this, never used soapn kitty before this. I do shave down there...is that an irritant for anyone?
I'm sure that you most of you all know that sperm ph is high, and ours is lower more acidic. but my boy friend has had vasectomy and has a hard time getting off wearing a condom or pulling out. Not to mention that I must be lousy at giving head because I can't get him off that way. He loves to do (did) love to go down on me. I hadn't thought of that being a trigger, but it makes sense.
I drink coffee, a lot of soda, and smoke, my diet needs much improvement. I did try to cut out all of the soda I drink and I lost 9 pounds in a month, and well, I'm 5'9" and weight 120 pounds, couldn't afford to lose the weight. Plus it didn't help with the bv.
Has anyone seen a dietician on what food to eat to lower body ph? I have read about what to avoid just not what could help besides yogurt..is activa the brand most of u eat?
I'll bitch later about my doctor appointment experiences, I don't want to even get started on that right now. I have had planned parent hood cancel on me twice only to reschedule my appointments a month later each time. So I did go to my ob that delivered my son..they are dumbass jerks.
I have went through 2 rounds of m-gel and the other one commonly perscribed, which it goes away for a few days...5 day record for me.
I did have an abnormal pap...they cut a piece of my cervix...told me to come back after birth of my son..which is when I lost my job and health insurance..
arj75
I was pregnant with my son, and never diagnosed with bv, I thought the funk was from the pregnancy, and was too embarrassed to mention it. I will say this that in the last trimester, i had too much aminoitic fluid, which can make uterus think its ready to deliver when the baby isnt ready. Luckily, he made it through fine. Makes me wonder how many premature births this bv really causes, since I was never diagnosed, and a lot of women have it without the smell and discharge....
I am having a hard time with this bv, started having aniexty attacks, I had insominia for a year..i can kinda sleep now..a lot of nightmares though.then the panic attacks harvested. I had to go to doctor for that...just last month..he doesn't know about my stinky snatch. (just a new gp doc) I know my hormones are way off. Can they test that? Does anyone think if I go on the pill that maybe it could help balance them out?
I'm gonna go take my prozac and shut up for now.
arj75
I was wondering what any of us have in common as far as our diets, body chemistry, health history, and any medications that you have taken in the past..including drug use. Also, if anyone cares to share their sexual habits as far as how often you have intercourse, and is it rough sex or not. I'm going today to buy some ph test strips to monitor my urine ph...I know it is higher than most healthy people the past three times I have had it done. I seems like that my body temperature is usually below normal because I'm always cold. Do any of you experience that? I'm gonna go buy a nutriction book today, I'm hoping that if I can balance my body ph through diet, that it might help my vagina have an easier time keeping itself balanced. Since my urine ph is high, which means it has a lot of amonia in it..the body uses it as a buffer so the urine isn't as acidic and doesn't burn...might be making my kitty more basic too. Maybe we should rinse with water after peeing (just the outside area)? This is my new theory, I'm gonna keep a journal for my doctor of my diet, body temperature, and urine ph. (hoping he will give a shit). I quit taking baths too , it hasn't helped the bv from reoccurring.
Morphia
Well, girls. The results are in. I have bv. The Clindesse did Jack shit. And so did the primadophilus reuteri, and so did the Fem-dophilus, and so did cutting out almost every carb known to man (I pretty much eat nothing but meat and vegetables), and so did the folic acid, b vitamins and whole vitamin supplement, as well as quitting smoking. I stopped using soap on my actual vagina and only on the outside and made damn sure I kept my legs closed enough to keep anything from getting in there. I slept with no underwear on and used pads during my period. I even bought brand new underwear to wear during the day. I don't take baths and I don't use antibacterial soap. And it seems that this shit only got worse. Still no smell. Hardly any discharge...But the burning....God...the burning. I did everything right and it did nothing. So, they gave me the option of Flagyl or Metrogel. I chose the Flagyl. And I don't care how sick it makes me or how bad it tastes. I'm going to stick it out because its supposed to be the most effective. According to all of you here, it seems that if I can't kick it the first time, then I likely never will. So I guess I'm joining the club. I'll be looking forward to a wonderful life of sticking foreign objects up my vag to get relief, only to realize it made it worse. And why in God's name does it burn? Its not supposed to hurt....
neverending
Morphia: Try the diva cup during your period. It works wonders!
Morphia
QUOTE(neverending @ May 7 2007, 09:42 AM) *
Morphia: Try the diva cup during your period. It works wonders!


I'm 100% sure that won't help since my symptoms reappeared before my period. I don't think my period is the cause. I think the cause is that I've had it for so long that its grown to be a Goliath of an infection. But I'll try it anyway.

Has anyone here tried povidone-iodine yet?
sassy
Hey guys...I have been gone for a couple of months due to lack of internet access. Nothing new to report...I'm still using the boric a couple times a week. It seems a lot of you have had success with the flagyl vaginally so I'm going to give that a try. I don't really want to use the estoroil yet, but I might sometime. My honeymoon/wedding is in September, and I would really like to get this under control. I'm really worried about getting on the plane with boric or flagyl that isn't technically prescribed to me (i.e. ordered online.)
Morphia
Alright. So I went to pick up my Flagyl today and as I was being checked out I looked at the label and to my horror it said to take ONE pill twice a day for 7 days. Now, I say "to my horror" because isn't it supposed to be TWO pills twice a day? The milligram is 500. Is the dosage wrong??? Because if its too low then it will do SQUAT. I just took my first one at 3:15-3:20. How many hours apart should I take them?
jewelscando
Not, it's right. 1 Pill twice a day, for 7 days.

Hopefully this will work for you....
ilovehim
diets, body chemistry, health history, and any medications that you have taken in the past..including drug use. Also, if anyone cares to share their sexual habits as far as how often you have intercourse, and is it rough sex or not. my body temperature is usually below normal because I'm always cold. Do any of you experience that?


Yupp girl same here. I'm always cold! And i noticed my hands are usually cold whether its hot or not, it don't matter.

Sex 2 or 3 times, every other day. We shower after sex, and sometimes end up doing it there too. The water sometimes goes inside my cooch and i think that can cause BV too. =( The soap irritates me, usually body washes do this. Caress is what i've been using but down there I use Summer's Eve fem. wash. Ocassionally, i scrub myself with the Caress or body washes, But I don't recommend doing this.


My BV started when I first became pregnant with my son (first preg.). During the time I became preg. i remember sitting under the running water in the bathtub with my legs open to "CLEAN OUT" the cum. If I only knew then what I know now, I would've never done that! When I sarted noticing that the odor was offensive, I ignorantly bought a Summer's EVE tropically flavored douche thinking it was gonna cure the odor. Then EVENTUALLY got up the nerve to mention the odor to my gyn. and got prescribed the FLAGYL, and that's when it all started for me.

Right now I've been alright with the smell it isn't as bad as it used to be. =\ I tried lots of things includuing: Yogurt inserted inside, taking acidophillus probiotics, I don't eat bread or anything containing yeast. I cut back on my sugar intake, but still consume some sugar.

I stopped applying anything vaginally except for metro gel after sex. To keep the smell at bay. But ovbiously it hasn't helped much. I'm taking 1 Folic Acid suppliment a day.

Oh i forgot to mention that I smoke marijuana (almost everyday) and cigarettes.
ilovehim
Hey morphia is the burning on the inside or outside? If it's by your clit it can be a UTI so you should get tests for that too.

Did the yogurt make more smelly discharge for you guys?

Oh and who uses tampons?
arj75
I haven't noticed yogurt making me smell worse..it does make me feel sick to my stomach..a little... I read online today that the cilaymycin that I was first prescribed kills all the bacteria good and bad, but it didn't mention that the metronidazole gel did that as well. I also went to a doctor lounge looking for info, and this dumbass said bv doesn't reoccur. whatever.
If I repeat shit that you all already know, its only because I haven't read all 79 damn pages of this so forgive me.
I read that articficial sweetners are worse on your body than sugar..I chew a lot of sugarless gum...trying to quit smoking.
I think we all should be taking vitamin c...when your body is in physical and emotional stress..it needs twice as much...and if you smoke 2..need even more. Since it fights our infections constantly....we probably aren't getting enough. there is follic acid in my regular vitamin should I get some just of folic?
I think I know what caused my bv...I used spermicide only(docs think its a n inducer for bv)..as birth control for several months..then quit using it because it started burning my shit even before I had infection..got prego month later. I'm a dumbass..do they make condoms without spermicide? I know I will never use it in any sort again. My bf has a vesectomy but his sperm sends me on bv train...
What is TTO mouthwash? Where can you get it? does that help stop reoccurance from oral? (I don't know if that does for me or not...he always gives me that
Do you all suffer from UTI's...I had one and didn't know it..no symtoms...but LOTS of bacteria. Test came back that it's gone though.
arj75
OK so I am a little obsessive compulsive but this thought crossed my mind on the body ph theory thing....I wonder what our man's sperm ph is...and what it should really measure..maybe they aren't healthy? I'm gonna look later and find out what the healthy ph should be, and well, guess I'll be doing some experiments....
Morphia
QUOTE(jewelscando @ May 7 2007, 04:34 PM) *
Not, it's right. 1 Pill twice a day, for 7 days.

Hopefully this will work for you....



Thanks, Jewels. I hope this works for me too. I'm trying to believe that it will. But I'm not going to get my hopes up too high.

ilovehim, the burning is on the inside. And when I get aroused and the juices start flowing the burning gets worse on the inside and it spreads to the outside. I swear the Clindesse some how made it worse. It made the discharge much better but the burning is only worse.
anitsirhc
QUOTE(sassy @ May 7 2007, 04:12 PM) *
I'm really worried about getting on the plane with boric or flagyl that isn't technically prescribed to me (i.e. ordered online.)


just check your baggage under the plane. don't bring it in your carry on bag.
sciongal
QUOTE(jewelscando @ May 7 2007, 02:34 PM) *
Not, it's right. 1 Pill twice a day, for 7 days.

Hopefully this will work for you....



Hi jewels,'
is this the oral dosage or for using it vaginally?
Morphia
QUOTE(sciongal @ May 8 2007, 12:06 AM) *
Hi jewels,'
is this the oral dosage or for using it vaginally?



I don't know for sure what she meant but I'm using it orally. I'm pretty sure she meant orally as well.
anitsirhc
QUOTE(sciongal @ May 8 2007, 01:06 AM) *
Hi jewels,'
is this the oral dosage or for using it vaginally?


she definitely meant orally. vaginally you would only do it two or three times total. and you would never do it more than once in a day.
bvgirl
QUOTE(neverending @ May 7 2007, 09:42 AM) *
Morphia: Try the diva cup during your period. It works wonders!



Hello neverending..

Can you tell me about the diva cup?

I am still doing great with the yeast arrest. biggrin.gif I did not even use it during my period and still no smell but I will get back on it soon..
Thank you much
arj75
I looked online today for information about the chemistry and nutrient composition of sperm. I didn't find much. I did read that whatever the nutrients that are in it are absorbed from our bodies so I'm putting man on vitamin regimen as well. Can't hurt nothing. I know some of use..sperm isn't a factor...I think it has somewhat of a role for me. I'm really curious what research has been done regarding bv..so I can quit wearing myself out. I'm gonna start reading some medical journals I guess... I hope I remember my medical terminology since reading doctor slang might as well be in chinese.
mfc10
QUOTE(arj75 @ May 8 2007, 09:16 AM) *
I looked online today for information about the chemistry and nutrient composition of sperm. I didn't find much. I did read that whatever the nutrients that are in it are absorbed from our bodies so I'm putting man on vitamin regimen as well. Can't hurt nothing. I know some of use..sperm isn't a factor...I think it has somewhat of a role for me. I'm really curious what research has been done regarding bv..so I can quit wearing myself out. I'm gonna start reading some medical journals I guess... I hope I remember my medical terminology since reading doctor slang might as well be in chinese.


It isn't the sperm that one worries about regarding vaginal pH effects; it is the semen. Normal semen pH is 7.2-8.0. Prostate-related secretion is acidic, while seminal vesicle fluid is alkaline. Acidic ejaculate (pH<7.2) may be associated with blockage of seminal vesicles. Infection (in the male) is usually associated with alkaline ejaculate (pH >8.0). At any rate, the normal pH range of semen is way higher than what the vagina should be (4.5 is the accepted norm). I suggest condoms or, if not using condoms, using aci-jel or boric acid after intercourse to get the pH back down to the acidic level.

maggie
neverending
I can't remember who asked about the diva cup but it's wonderful! It's a hell of a lot better than tampons or pads and it is a lot healthier.
Here is the link:
www.divacup.com

Try it! You will not be disappointed
lori
Well, here's an interesting product:

Today pH Balance Vaginal Vitamin C Tablets

Anyone use these before?

(So expensive!)
paige
Hello everyone i just got my flagyl today. If anyone whats to get some i got mine from www.fdamedstore.com
Morphia
This flagyl is probably not going to work if I can't quit smoking...ugh...I started up again today because I always do when I get stressed out about something. The bf and I got into again (not concerning this issue. Just other stuff.) I've had about 6 or 7 today. sad.gif Has smoking kept any meds from working for any of you?
ilovehim
QUOTE(arj75 @ May 7 2007, 09:38 PM) *
OK so I am a little obsessive compulsive but this thought crossed my mind on the body ph theory thing....I wonder what our man's sperm ph is...and what it should really measure..maybe they aren't healthy? I'm gonna look later and find out what the healthy ph should be, and well, guess I'll be doing some experiments....



Well i think sperm has a pH of about 7 or greater. VERY alkaline compared to the vaginas acidic enviornment.
ilovehim
QUOTE(Morphia @ May 8 2007, 04:18 PM) *
This flagyl is probably not going to work if I can't quit smoking...ugh...I started up again today because I always do when I get stressed out about something. The bf and I got into again (not concerning this issue. Just other stuff.) I've had about 6 or 7 today. sad.gif Has smoking kept any meds from working for any of you?



I really don't think smoking has anything to do with it. I quit smoking after i got preg. and still had the persistent BV. I didn't start up again until about 6 months ago also because of STRESS! I'm not thinking about EVER stopping again until this shit goes away for good... on everything I WILL QUIT!..and I might also stop smoking weed if this problem resolves itself, or should I say when I resolve this problem.
Morphia
QUOTE(ilovehim @ May 8 2007, 05:05 PM) *
I really don't think smoking has anything to do with it. I quit smoking after i got preg. and still had the persistent BV. I didn't start up again until about 6 months ago also because of STRESS! I'm not thinking about EVER stopping again until this shit goes away for good... on everything I WILL QUIT!..and I might also stop smoking weed if this problem resolves itself, or should I say when I resolve this problem.



Actually, smoking has a lot to do with it. Maybe not in your case. But I've read a couple of articles that say there is a higher prevalence of bv/recurrent bv in smokers as opposed to non smokers. There's also a post somewhere in this thread (WAAAAAAY back in the thread) that states exactly what chemical it is thats in cigarettes that makes women more susceptible. I think Jewels posted it somewhere....

Btw, I can raise that number from 7 to 11 smokes today. I suck.
arj75
Anyone ever tried tomato juice? kinda nasty i know but at least its natural..and well the ph is 4.2... Whats the ph of boric and hydrogen perioxide... anyone know? both tearing me up.

Thanks for the information Ilovehim and to you as well Maggie. I didn't choose the right word though..my boyfriend has been snipped, and well, I'm hoping there are no extra swimmers. I went to GNC today looking for some ph test strips didnt have any though... (i'm just really curious...I'm gonna check my blood, urine, kitty. ( i know she aint right)

I bought some vitamins too. Folic, cranberry pills, and the fem stuff..gonna go take it now. I'm gonna be on vitamins from here on out. If you take iron, your wasting your time if you take it with milk or anything with caffeine. I'm not sure about the vitamin C...I can't remember right now. I know I need it....anyone who is otherwise healthy and smokes needs it.

I quit smoking pot in January....hasn't made a difference..I didn't smoke it a lot in the past couple years either though (smoked it 8 or 9 years)...not proud but did cocaine.....maybe 3 times in past 2 years...never a habit.. I drink one night a week, have for past 4 or 5 years.

Quit smoking for 4 days, but started back.I know I really need to stop..I have asthma for goodness sake. Did you all read that the bad bacteria doesnt need oxygen to grow, but the good does?
Morphia
Before and after adjustment for possible confounding factors, smoking, but not alcohol and drug use, was significantly associated with BV. Of the women with BV 52% were smokers versus 32% in the control group.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...p;dopt=Abstract

Conclusion: Our findings may be important for planning a preventive strategy for BV by discouraging smoking and increasing condom use and hormonal contraception among women.

http://sti.bmj.com/cgi/content/abstract/80/1/58


Douching, smoking, and the absence of vaginal lactobacillus emerged as powerful independent risk factors for acquisition of bacterial vaginosis in the first large longitudinal study of this common gynecologic disorder.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0CY..._35/ai_65538228

Smoking, which is associated with the acquisition of BV in the non-pregnant [9], has not been addressed in pregnancy.
The current study found smoking to be a significant risk factor for acquiring BV in pregnancy.

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlere...i?artid=1581474

And I'm sure there is many, many, many more. Just google "smoking and bacterial vagninosis" It's everywhere.

I also wanted to point out what they say about increasing hormonal contraception. I've read that several times as well. I'll see if I can't find some articles to post on that later.
arj75
Thank You Morphia! That helps a lot! I'm quiting smoking tomorrow, whether it helps with this or not. I no longer want to smell like long john silvers and an ashtray. I am not gonna stick anything else up kitty for a while..hell it took 8 weeks for my stiches to heal...proly longer for the inside now that I have burnt it up. I guessing that using anything in her that is not 4.5 ph or close is only gonna continue it's reoccurance. Most bacteria can't live in ph over 4.5 anyways..but somehow the good can?? Is that what you have all read? Anything over that ph isn't really needed?
arj75
I meant that I read most bacteria can't survive in acidic levels of anything under 4.5. Sorry I should read what I type. All I know for sure is that I am tired of my snatch burning, and I'm for sure not putting anything under 4 inside her. Bacteria feast on sores and raw rashed skin... It is possible for vagina to be to acidic....maybe your body coul.d never make it too acidic but we can by shoving everything under the sun up there.
Morphia
I also found this little gem in one of the articles I already posted:

"Smoking carried a 70%-100% increased risk." for bv acquisition that is.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0CY..._35/ai_65538228
arj75
I guess my insomnia is back, since I have tried to go to sleep past three nights, and I havent even so much as fell asleep. I am making another doctor appointment too. I told you all that I was gonna asess my body temperature throught the day (I'm always cold) I have had a fucking low grade fever for past 3 days...99.6..I don't feel sick. I think my ear term. is right, my 7 year old was my control study (98.6)

As far as sharing my past health and personal history..it's a little embarrassing but I will telleverything that I can think of..maybe we can at least find what we all have in common from this disease...if there is anything that hasnt already been investigated or researched already..

My personality type..well, obviously, I'm a worry wart and have been my whole life. (aniexty attacks started this Januaury. Insomnia on and off my whole life.
I had an abortion when I was 17, and it was and is my biggest mistake that I have made in my life. It's even harder to think about now that I have 2 children.

My sex drive is way above normal...I learned how to get myself off at 8 years old (no shit). I have never been molested or anything like that. When I was younger 8 or so, I always had to put toilet paper in my panties..cause I had discharge and my panties would get wet all the time. I remember my mom seeing that I did that and I was too embarrassed to tell her that my shit was leaking so I just said I wanted to be like her. LOL. I don't know if it was urine or discharge..love juice whatever.

I have smoked since I was 18, quit smoking with first prego, not with second ( smoked like a frieght train) this past 2 years have been the worse in my life..divorce, unplanned prego, death of best friend. I left the father of my 10 old 2 days before I delivered.

I just this computer in January, and I'm not sure how to pull all of your quotes a so forth...
arj75
Has anyone who has this chronic bv ever had their blood oxygen level checked? Has anyone read about that? I know stress can do crazy shit to you body. Look up chronic hyperventilation syndrome (it's casued from stress) and see the effects it can have on the body..many symtoms. Oh, I started having aniexty attacks long before I found out that I had bv.
Has anyone ever been tested for nutrient deficiencies? My diet is now, always has been horrible..I don't even know what I can eat because everything that I have read about the body ph theory tells me that I consume WAY to many acids. Many foods that you would think would have high acidic levels do, but have reverse effects on your body. It's rather confusing. Two of my favorite foods, cantelope and califlower... info stated that people with type O blood..thier body has strange reactions to it. I ate it like it was going out of style when I was prego...I read something about throwing out bananas once they get past a certain ripeness because they are no longer healthy on your body...I ate banana splits often when preg..

I'm really sorry if I'm wearing you all out...I'm wearing myself out..but I can't f***ing stop.

Talk to you all later..I'm gonna read about how exactly the vagina maintains ph..already read about the body, and urine..does anyone already know that..do doctors even know that?
arj75
Has anyone contacted Dr. Klebanoff? He is conducting research currently regarding bv. I have his email if anyone is interested..I'm not sure if he would even reply....
ilovehim
What up.. what up?

Well for me, BV is getting worse everyday. I need to stop smoking weed. It makes me too paranoid. I keep getting these wierd mixed messages from people. Saying that i need to freshen up. Obviously they think i'm stinky sally =(. It's all just too devastating for me.

In all reality, I think i'm the cleanest girl there is. I probably over due it. But hey what can you do when this gets the best of you?

Anyways, What things can I do to stay fresh longer ?
I always change my toilet paper "pantiliner" often. less 2 hours. I think i sweat too much down there it's almost always BURNING, especially after sex. I use body wash, perfume, and body mists. But they only last a little bit.

My depression is getting worse again. I feel dirty and nasty, and hate myself. I'm gonna get put on anti-depressants soo. The appointment is on FRIDAY. Do any of you take or have taken this type of medicine?
bvgirl
QUOTE(ilovehim @ May 9 2007, 06:19 PM) *
What up.. what up?

Well for me, BV is getting worse everyday. I need to stop smoking weed. It makes me too paranoid. I keep getting these wierd mixed messages from people. Saying that i need to freshen up. Obviously they think i'm stinky sally =(. It's all just too devastating for me.

In all reality, I think i'm the cleanest girl there is. I probably over due it. But hey what can you do when this gets the best of you?

Anyways, What things can I do to stay fresh longer ?
I always change my toilet paper "pantiliner" often. less 2 hours. I think i sweat too much down there it's almost always BURNING, especially after sex. I use body wash, perfume, and body mists. But they only last a little bit.

My depression is getting worse again. I feel dirty and nasty, and hate myself. I'm gonna get put on anti-depressants soo. The appointment is on FRIDAY. Do any of you take or have taken this type of medicine?


Good evening ilovehim... smile.gif

I am sure you know that drugs are not good for you so I really won't comment on that too much. What I suggest you do to mask the smell is to wear a pad. Not a pantiliner(because the thickness in the pad helped to mask the smell of bv at least in my case it helped greatly). I would buy a pack of 48 stay free maxi pads to last me for about a month and use them religiously. I also used the deodorant ones( I would not suggest any one to use any deodorant pads and or pantiliners but in this case you may want to consider using them once a day or if the smell cannot be masked well with just the non-deodorant ones).Stop using any perfumes and feminine sprays down there. Again, I should stress that anything deodorant down there can and or may cause irritation which can lead to a bad smell and or make the bv smell worse. So try to use just the non deodorant maxi pads and change them very often. See if that helps. A big hassle but I did it for three years could not remember a day without using them like crazy (even when I am not on my period it was a big hassle). Currently, I am doing well. I also suggest you go panti less around the house or what have you( when you feel comfortable and no one can cause you to feel bad because of the smell) you should do this to get as much air down there and also it gives you a break from always having to keep your legs closed tight(because of the fear that someone will smell you) and basically feeling free(since no one is around to smell anything). I know this all may sound like a lot to you but I lived it. I know it is easier said than done when I say that you should not feel dirty about yourself and believe me when I say that I too am a very very clean person but try to develop a positive attitude about what you are going through. Just make it a point to change things in your life that may be contributing to your bv and also finding a product that works for you(an endless cycle but who else is going to do it(but you)). We can all tell you and suggest to you what works for us but it is up to you to decide to try this product or that product and use this board as a guide to get to that point. If your doctor can help you that is great but if not (like many of us on here) keep on searching and researching and use the trial and error system. As far as the depression. My advice to you about that is ask yourself are you depressed because of bv or are you just experiencing the basic emotional affects of dealing with bv(because we all are). If you already suffer from depression then yes you should go see him and keep that appointment and let him evaluate you based on much more than having bv. Yes I do believe that bv can contribute to making your depression harder but to what degree does it add to your depression and or does that cause the need for medicine and or maybe just in need of a therapist to talk to you. Ask your doctor. Be sure to be very open with him so you can get the proper help you need with the correct method.

Hang in there...
arj75
Ilovehim I'm so sorry that your feeling the way you are. I'm on prozac, and it isn't helping but the doctor says it could take four to six weeks for any results. I have read a lot today on research that has been done regarding to bv, stress has shown to be a factor, I'm sorry I don't remember the link, and I was all over the place online today. Of course you know I don't save my search history someone might find out. So my plan of attack is I'm gonna shove a tampon up me when I stink (I'm stinking) and not let it stress me out.

I stink REAL bad after an aniexty attack, it's actually caused it to come back on countless occasions. You should continue to take vitamins, it could take longer than we think for our bodies to get back in check and balance everything out. I nursed my son, had a terrible stressful pregnantcy, and it drained everything out of my body. Which is why I think I can't get rid of this now.

I'm hoping that I can sleep tonight, I"m not sure how many days I have been up..my friend gave me a zanax hope it works..
Take Care you all!

Morphia
Well, I don't think the Flagyl is going to work. I'm pretty sure its not. I'm on my third day and I still feel the exact same burn. And I know its not yeast from the meds. From what I've read here it seems that you ladies have bv infections that go away with antibiotics but then they come back. Has anyone ever had one or is currently dealing with one that will just NOT go away AT ALL? As in one constant infection that is resistant to all antibiotics? I know this is only my second treatment but my intuition is telling me that this fucker isn't going anywhere. No matter what I throw at it. And we all know about women's intuition.
jewelscando
LADIES.....

We are discussing B.V. here, NOT DRUG USE. Not trying to be a bitch, but also not interested in your personal drug problems either.

VAGINA'S need to BREATH!!!! Wearing "Pads" while you have B.V. is just trouble waiting to happen, especially if you already have issues with sweating down in that area!! This is why they tell woman NOT to wear Thongs, as it does NOT allow enough air flow through that area!! Not to wear TIGHT jeans for that same reason.

Morphia, you need to give the medication a chance, and you should also be treating yourself for a yeast infection as well. Flagyl WILL give you a yeast infection.

It sounds to me like you have a bad case of something, wether it be B.V. or Yeast, who knows. I think you might want to consider changing doctors and go to one who specializes in Woman issues. More tests should have been done on you, being that you are experiencing so much pain. I PERSONALLY have NEVER had pain associated with B.V. Not saying that it's not possible, BUT, it sounds to me like you have more then B.V. going on up there.

Those of us who have been on this board for over a year, have had B.V. for YEARS. This is why we joined the board to help each other find solutions to this horrible problem, that doctors don't seem to have an answer for. You have to do what works for you. What worked for me is the Flagyl pill put in vaginally. YOU CANNOT DO THIS, because of the pain you are in, unless you want more pain. You don't want to be raw, or burning, when putting the Flagyl in vaginally, being that, IT WAS NOT MADE TO GO THERE. It just happens to work for me.

If you read the archives, you will see the LIST AND LIST of what we all have tried. From my knowledge on this board, there's been two things that have taken it away. Flagyl vaginally and the Estroil. We all have tried EVERYTHING under the sun, to just have it return again. That is why they call it re-occuring Bacterial Vaginosis. It keeps coming back. So, continue taking the flagyl orally, and find another doctor to see if you have other issues going on. That's just my opinion.

Morphia
QUOTE(jewelscando @ May 10 2007, 12:27 AM) *
LADIES.....

We are discussing B.V. here, NOT DRUG USE. Not trying to be a bitch, but also not interested in your personal drug problems either.

VAGINA'S need to BREATH!!!! Wearing "Pads" while you have B.V. is just trouble waiting to happen, especially if you already have issues with sweating down in that area!! This is why they tell woman NOT to wear Thongs, as it does NOT allow enough air flow through that area!! Not to wear TIGHT jeans for that same reason.

Morphia, you need to give the medication a chance, and you should also be treating yourself for a yeast infection as well. Flagyl WILL give you a yeast infection.

It sounds to me like you have a bad case of something, wether it be B.V. or Yeast, who knows. I think you might want to consider changing doctors and go to one who specializes in Woman issues. More tests should have been done on you, being that you are experiencing so much pain. I PERSONALLY have NEVER had pain associated with B.V. Not saying that it's not possible, BUT, it sounds to me like you have more then B.V. going on up there.

Those of us who have been on this board for over a year, have had B.V. for YEARS. This is why we joined the board to help each other find solutions to this horrible problem, that doctors don't seem to have an answer for. You have to do what works for you. What worked for me is the Flagyl pill put in vaginally. YOU CANNOT DO THIS, because of the pain you are in, unless you want more pain. You don't want to be raw, or burning, when putting the Flagyl in vaginally, being that, IT WAS NOT MADE TO GO THERE. It just happens to work for me.

If you read the archives, you will see the LIST AND LIST of what we all have tried. From my knowledge on this board, there's been two things that have taken it away. Flagyl vaginally and the Estroil. We all have tried EVERYTHING under the sun, to just have it return again. That is why they call it re-occuring Bacterial Vaginosis. It keeps coming back. So, continue taking the flagyl orally, and find another doctor to see if you have other issues going on. That's just my opinion.


I've been seeing an obgyn and I've been tested for gonorrhea and chlamydia. Both came back negative. I got the affirm test (better than wet prep) for yeast, bv, and trich and the only thing that came back positive was bv. I know there is nothing else going on with me. I'm also on Diflucan for yeast prevention. I'm telling you, I know the Flagyl won't work. If there is anything additional going on with me it lies in my hormones or my immune system. As I've said, I suspect I've had this problem for over a year. Maybe even years! There's no telling what kind of Herculean microbe I'm battling here.
peachcup
I just signed up for this thread. maybe its cheating to ask for a summary, but I am overwhelmed by all the information I have been collecting about BV in the past few days.

When I first got it I thought it was a yeast infection, so I told my doctor so, he just told me to take over-the-counter stuff, didn't even look or anything. (it might be because I am only 16 and I know him personally, oh yeah, and I was on my period).

The symptoms did go away, but it just came back again and I tried another brand of the meds he suggested, and it went away again for a bit. But its come back. And now I have done more research and it sounds a lot more like BV than a Yeast Infection. Yeast infections don't have that awful smell....

I am of course going to go to my doctor again and get it diagnosed and prescriptions and his advice. But I am worried, because it sounds like these drugs are a lot more dangerous, and no garentee of success. I have read many stories of women trying one medication after another, and it just comes back. I'm not on health insurance, and my mom is getting sick of the expense.

I would think you are the best people to ask... what has worked, what does not work? I know that it is different for all of us, they don't even know what really causes it. But something is the same, it keeps coming back, its annoying, it strains relationships, its hard to talk about, and a lot of women have this problem!

What medications should i ask for prescriptions for? You guys are the experts. I hope you can help me.

I'm trying to stop eating stuff with yeast in it (just recently), I stopped using perfumed soap a long time ago, I eat lots of yogurt, I wear cotton underwear, I wipe front to back... What the hell is causing this? I had it before I ever had sex, and its not even supposed to be caused by sex! Why would we be designed that way?

God's way of enforcing abstinence? lol
jewelscando
Well, then go back to the doctor then. There's alot of different meds, besides Flagyl.

One of the biggest things we have all learned that it's not all about getting rid of the problem it's preventing the problem. B.V. is on going. For us it is atleast. And because of that, we need to do what's called "PREVENTATIVE". It may take some time for you to figure out what you may need to start avoiding, in order to stay on top of this. I know what I need to do, but that may not be the same for you. Learning about B.V. is a full time job. It takes time, and patience, to figure out what's causing your B.V. to return, and MOST OF ALL, what works for you to keep it away.

peachcup
QUOTE(arj75 @ May 7 2007, 08:55 AM) *
I was wondering what any of us have in common as far as our diets, body chemistry, health history, and any medications that you have taken in the past..including drug use. Also, if anyone cares to share their sexual habits as far as how often you have intercourse, and is it rough sex or not. I'm going today to buy some ph test strips to monitor my urine ph...I know it is higher than most healthy people the past three times I have had it done. I seems like that my body temperature is usually below normal because I'm always cold. Do any of you experience that? I'm gonna go buy a nutriction book today, I'm hoping that if I can balance my body ph through diet, that it might help my vagina have an easier time keeping itself balanced. Since my urine ph is high, which means it has a lot of amonia in it..the body uses it as a buffer so the urine isn't as acidic and doesn't burn...might be making my kitty more basic too. Maybe we should rinse with water after peeing (just the outside area)? This is my new theory, I'm gonna keep a journal for my doctor of my diet, body temperature, and urine ph. (hoping he will give a shit). I quit taking baths too , it hasn't helped the bv from reoccurring.


I am also always cold. I probably don't eat as much as I should (not in the morning at least, I eat when I get faint, I just don't notice until then, then I eat a lot.) I smoke pot occasionally, very occasionally, maybe once a month. I have sex... maybe 5 times a month recently, only one person. I don't think sex is the cause of it for me, because I had it before I'd ever had sex, and I got it again but I was using a condom then. Now I am on the nuvaring, but just recently, but maybe it has had an affect. I also have a skin condition on my chest and in my pubic area, I forget at the moment what its called, but my doctor said it was unrelated, but that's when I told him I had a yeast infection (because that's what I thought it was).

What doctors or scientists or medical students are doing research about BV? They really should know more about it.
When I talk to my doctor, or a gynecologist, I will report back. I hope I am not rambling too much?
Morphia
QUOTE(jewelscando @ May 10 2007, 01:35 AM) *
Well, then go back to the doctor then. There's alot of different meds, besides Flagyl.

One of the biggest things we have all learned that it's not all about getting rid of the problem it's preventing the problem. B.V. is on going. For us it is atleast. And because of that, we need to do what's called "PREVENTATIVE". It may take some time for you to figure out what you may need to start avoiding, in order to stay on top of this. I know what I need to do, but that may not be the same for you. Learning about B.V. is a full time job. It takes time, and patience, to figure out what's causing your B.V. to return, and MOST OF ALL, what works for you to keep it away.



I agree with you whole heartedly. Its just that I can't do anything preventative until it actually goes away. lol. I've read this entire thread from post one to now and I've applied everything I've learned that doesn't involve sticking anything unprescribed in my snatch. =P I've even been using ideas that I got from other threads. I'll be convinced that this bitch is gone when the burning stops and when I stop finding "bleached" spots in my undies. I swear, if I wear colored underwear the discharge (what little my dried up vag can actually produce) dries so white it looks like I sprinkled a couple of drops of bleach on there.
peachcup
QUOTE(jewelscando @ May 10 2007, 02:35 AM) *
Well, then go back to the doctor then. There's alot of different meds, besides Flagyl.

One of the biggest things we have all learned that it's not all about getting rid of the problem it's preventing the problem. B.V. is on going. For us it is atleast. And because of that, we need to do what's called "PREVENTATIVE". It may take some time for you to figure out what you may need to start avoiding, in order to stay on top of this. I know what I need to do, but that may not be the same for you. Learning about B.V. is a full time job. It takes time, and patience, to figure out what's causing your B.V. to return, and MOST OF ALL, what works for you to keep it away.


If you don't mind me asking, what works for you?
Out of all the women here, out of all the different doctors we have each gone to, I would expect some cure. Or at least a list of things to do to keep it away, instead of just stopping doing one thing and another and then hoping it won't come back. All the work each one of us is doing... shouldn't that be the job of the doctors and the scientists?
jewelscando
Peachcup. You need to read. Go through the archives and you will see the different things we have tried.
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