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jewelscando
Lori is right. We are NOT PROFESSIONALS HERE. Although we are becoming experts in the B.V. world, we all still have not come up with a 100% cure, or a 100% reason why.

Morphia. Lori is right. Flagyl OR ANY antibiotic for that matter, CAUSES YEAST. You will get you answer when you go back in and the doctors says it's yeast. Everything you are saying is the signs and symptoms of that. ALL OF US HAVE HAD B.V. and YEAST at the exact same time. However, Monistat DOES NOT cure B.V., therefore, that is why you have to treat the B.V. with antibiotics, and you can use over the counter for the Yeast.

Either way, Lori is right. You are not wanting to listen, which you shouldn't. We aren't your doctor. But stop asking questions, if you don't like the answers.
Morphia
QUOTE(jewelscando @ May 12 2007, 09:56 PM) *
Lori is right. We are NOT PROFESSIONALS HERE. Although we are becoming experts in the B.V. world, we all still have not come up with a 100% cure, or a 100% reason why.

Morphia. Lori is right. Flagyl OR ANY antibiotic for that matter, CAUSES YEAST. You will get you answer when you go back in and the doctors says it's yeast. Everything you are saying is the signs and symptoms of that. ALL OF US HAVE HAD B.V. and YEAST at the exact same time. However, Monistat DOES NOT cure B.V., therefore, that is why you have to treat the B.V. with antibiotics, and you can use over the counter for the Yeast.

Either way, Lori is right. You are not wanting to listen, which you shouldn't. We aren't your doctor. But stop asking questions, if you don't like the answers.



Wtf? Jewels I really respect you, but you can be way too harsh sometimes. This is supposed to be a place of support. I should never hear, "Stop asking questions if you don't like the answers." I AM listening. You're just not listening to me. I don't know how many times I have to tell you guys that this is my body and I know it. I know what yeast feels like for ME and I know what bv feels like for ME. I know what it feels like to have BOTH at the same time. And this feels like BV. When I went in last time (to the doctor) after the Clindesse you guys kept telling me it was yeast and guess what, It wasn't! I've never had text book symptoms for pretty much any illness I've ever had in my life besides strep throat. When I had VIN it presented itself like herpes. I've always been very hard to diagnose and am extremely unlucky in that respect. If I didn't get a yeast infection when I was on the Clindesse then I certainly don't have a yeast infection on the flagyl, since it spares more lactobacilli than the Clindamycin does. Then there's the fact that I'm already on Diflucan as a preventative. I've also said more than three times on here that my bv presents with yeast like symptoms which is exactly why I and my doctors thought I was having recurring yeast infections for over a year until I finally got a test. I should be able to come here and ask questions without being attacked and told not to ask questions. Its the only place I have to go. I figured you guys would be more understanding. But all I'm getting is this "holier than thou attitude". That's no way to treat someone who comes here for your support. I don't want to have to leave this board. But I don't want to be denigrated either. At this point I'm pretty torn, because this is my sanctuary right now. Thanks for making me feel like a stupid piece of shit and like I don't know my own body. I honestly don't mean to come off as a bitch right now but honestly, your comment hurt me.
jewelscando
MORPHIA, Sorry if you took it the wrong way. You have to understand that, you keep ASKING QUESTIONS, over and over and over again, and WE ARE ONLY TRYING TO HELP, but everytime we say something, you HAVE AN OPPOSITE ANSWER for it.

So....all I was saying is, stop asking. We've given you our answer. OBVIOUSLY, we are wrong, therefore, let your doctor tell you what it is. We say it's yeast. NO MATTER HOW YOU FRASE YOUR QUESTION, IT WILL STILL BE YEAST TO US.

I don't know what to tell you. Because you aren't open to any of our suggestions. There is no, HOLYIER then Though attitude. Trust me, My kitty smells like fish, there's no holiness about it!!! wink.gif

AND WTF, why are you jumping down my ass. I made one statement...just backing up Lori.

WOW, THIS BOARD IS GETTING STRESSFULL!!

NEVERENDING!! GREAT TO SEE YOU!! I MISS YOU!!
lori
QUOTE(jewelscando @ May 12 2007, 09:56 PM) *
So....all I was saying is, stop asking. We've given you our answer. OBVIOUSLY, we are wrong, therefore, let your doctor tell you what it is. We say it's yeast. NO MATTER HOW YOU FRASE YOUR QUESTION, IT WILL STILL BE YEAST TO US.

That about sums it up. (Thanks Jewels.)

Morphia, you told us you have THICK WHITE DISCHARGE, BURNING, and your vagina smells like pizza. Unless it's a special bread-less pizza, this means your vagina SMELLS LIKE BREAD. So the conclusion is? All signs point to YEAST. That is anyone's best guess.

So do we THINK you have yeast? Yes. But do we KNOW you have yeast? NO. You know why? Because even doctors can't diagnose anyone over the internet.

We've given you our best guesses and our best suggestions. And you've shot down all of them. Which is okay, you don't have to listen to anything anyone says in here. It is your body. But after you've pissed on every single suggestion, what do you expect anyone in here to say?

And besides, don't you have a gyno appointment next week? Your gyno doctor is going to be your best source. Nothing anyone tells you on this board is going to be more helpful than a doctor who actually examines you.

QUOTE(Morphia @ May 12 2007, 09:48 PM) *
I should never hear, "Stop asking questions if you don't like the answers." I AM listening. You're just not listening to me.

No, everyone IS listening to you. Based on everything you told us, we gave you our conclusion. It may not be correct, but it is the BEST answer anyone can give you over the internet.

QUOTE(Morphia @ May 12 2007, 09:48 PM) *
If I didn't get a yeast infection when I was on the Clindesse then I certainly don't have a yeast infection on the flagyl, since it spares more lactobacilli than the Clindamycin does.

It would depend on whether you had the same amount of lactobacilli at both times. Since you don't know that, you can't make the conclusion that you cannot have yeast after using flagyl.

QUOTE(Morphia @ May 12 2007, 09:48 PM) *
Then there's the fact that I'm already on Diflucan as a preventative.

And another poster already pointed out that Diflucan doesn't kill all strains of yeast!

See, YOU are the one who's not listening.

I really don't know why you're so resistant to the idea that you might have yeast. I don't care if you have yeast or not, but your reasoning for why you absolutely do not have yeast don't make any sense.

QUOTE(Morphia @ May 12 2007, 09:48 PM) *
I should be able to come here and ask questions without being attacked and told not to ask questions.

Morphia, I am sorry that you are hurt. But you should still know that you have been difficult as well. People have been very kind to you for a while, but they got fed up.

People have been listening to you, and they gave you their best suggestions. I have been reading this board, and I can see that they really want to help. But you just keep telling everyone that they are wrong, no matter what they say.

It's true, we may all be wrong. No one here can know exactly what is going on in your body. So why keep asking?
pympmama1
HI

everyone I peek in every once and I while to see how everyone is doing... I don't alway have a need to post but today I feel I must...... What has happened to the Hope and support I alway seem to find here..... My understanding... in the many months that I have been here... This board is to help each other that have this problem.....Finding new inventive idea that may help us..... from estriol to hp to boric to vaginal flagy.....I love this board because it let me know I am not alone in my fight for a cure..... This board is not about snipping condescensions or strife....We all fall prey to down moments about this common problem that we all have... but for the most part.... we vent and then try something new..... THOSE THAT ARE CONSTANT NAY SAYERS SHOULD LEAVE..... i am here to be cured or temporarily reprieved of this problem......by what ever inventive methods that may arise be it vaginal flagy,estroil,hp,boric,or tea tree suppositories. THOSE that feel like they don't want to try whatever is suggested here do not have to.... ohmy.gif
lori
QUOTE(pympmama1 @ May 13 2007, 12:46 AM) *
THOSE that feel like they don't want to try whatever is suggested here do not have to....

For the record, NO ONE SAID Morphia has to do ANYTHING. People have made multiple suggestions to Morphia, to try and help her. She DOES NOT HAVE TO DO ANY OF THEM.

I'd also like to point out that it is Morphia who began the confrontation with both me and Jewelscando. All I said was: "No one said [Morphia] does not also have BV." THE END. That was not a confrontation, it was a statement of fact. She chose to become offended by it and jumped down our throats.

I understand that she is stressed and frustrated. But she shouldn't take it out on this board. Many posters (including me) have offered her encouragement and thoughtful suggestions. The fact that she does not agree with any of our suggestions is a simple DIFFERENCE OF OPINION. There is no reason for her to become angry because we do not agree with her.
autumnbreeze
Hello Ladies..And Happy Mother's Day to all the mothers!

Well it's been soooo long since I checked in..Do we have a cure yet blink.gif ? I wasn't able to read through all the new pages. Is anyone trying anything new? The last time I was in here I think Jewels or Neverending had success with the Flagyl pills inserted orally. Are you guys still doing that? My BV is still here and OMG it's getting hot outside..ewww

Someone please provide any updates..Thanks!
NotCatEyed
I read that you can use garlic clove vaginally for BV? Isn't this a yeast treatment? I just finished another (round 2) three day flagyl insert thing, and it didn't work. I'm looking for somehting else non antibiotic. Ugh, I do have more flagyl and I could try again....but, it seemes silly at this point. Any advice on the garlic would be helpful.

Also, tensions are clearly high when discussing these personal matters, but my impression is noone intended to offend during that little disagreement as of late, and I hope it wont cause future caution to meaningful dialouge because I really liked all the ideas I got from people here.
jewelscando
QUOTE(autumnbreeze @ May 13 2007, 02:30 PM) *
Hello Ladies..And Happy Mother's Day to all the mothers!

Well it's been soooo long since I checked in..Do we have a cure yet blink.gif ? I wasn't able to read through all the new pages. Is anyone trying anything new? The last time I was in here I think Jewels or Neverending had success with the Flagyl pills inserted orally. Are you guys still doing that? My BV is still here and OMG it's getting hot outside..ewww

Someone please provide any updates..Thanks!


AUTUMN!!! WOW, it's so nice to see some of my old girls back!!! Flagyl VAGINALLY is working wonders for me!! It's not a 100% cure, however, it keeps the B.V. away for months at a time, and just takes 1 pill for me if it peaks through. Estroil is working wonders for Pianogirl and Neverending. I will be trying that next myself!! Great to see you, hope this helps!!

Pianogirl, can you give me the website you buy the Estroil from?

Thanks!! HAPPY MOTHERS DAY LADIES!!
lori
QUOTE(autumnbreeze @ May 13 2007, 07:30 AM) *
I wasn't able to read through all the new pages. Is anyone trying anything new?

Fem-dophilus. It's a probiotic supplement designed specifically to reestablish healthy vaginal flora. I don't know if it will work for everyone, but I've been taking it for 2 months (2/day), and have been infection free.

--

Another topic: I feel bad for pooh-poohing a method that is working for some ladies, but there was something that freaked me out about inserting the flagyl vaginally. I just remembered what it was.

This is an article about Mifeprex or RU-486, the pill that induces abortions. Basically, there are women in the U.S. who have used it and died from a bacterial infection. No one in Europe has died. The difference is that the U.S. women use the pill by inserting it in the vagina:

QUOTE
A woman who died in Canada after taking Mifeprex during clinical testing in 2001 also suffered from a Clostridium sordellii infection. No similar deaths have been reported in Europe, where Mifeprex is widely used. But in the United States, most physicians give Mifeprex and an accompanying drug, misoprostol, in a regimen that involves inserting misoprostol vaginally.

Federal drug regulators have not approved this regimen
, but it is not unusual for doctors to use drugs differently from how they are officially approved. Studies indicate that this regimen is effective, requires a lower dose of misoprostol, and allows women to undergo the most emotional and painful part of the procedure at home. What is unknown is whether it may somehow contribute to bacterial infections.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/23/national...953&ei=5070

No one is sure that's what causes the infections. Also, this is about Mifeprex or RU-486, not flagyl. But the point is that people don't know how these women got their bacterial infections, but that it might have something to do with inserting the pill vaginally when it's not supposed to be used that way.

So about the vaginal flagyl - In my opinion, I don't think it's a good idea. If you want to make sure to put the medication where it needs to be, why not use metrogel? A vaginal gel that contains the same medication as flagyl (metronidazole) already exists, so why use the tablet?

Anyway, THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. I'm not saying anyone should stop doing this just because I say so, but I do think everyone should hear all the information before making a choice.
sciongal
QUOTE(lori @ May 13 2007, 10:26 AM) *
Fem-dophilus. It's a probiotic supplement designed specifically to reestablish healthy vaginal flora. I don't know if it will work for everyone, but I've been taking it for 2 months (2/day), and have been infection free.

--

Another topic: I feel bad for pooh-poohing a method that is working for some ladies, but there was something that freaked me out about inserting the flagyl vaginally. I just remembered what it was.

This is an article about Mifeprex or RU-486, the pill that induces abortions. Basically, there are women in the U.S. who have used it and died from a bacterial infection. No one in Europe has died. The difference is that the U.S. women use the pill by inserting it in the vagina:
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/23/national...953&ei=5070

No one is sure that's what causes the infections. Also, this is about Mifeprex or RU-486, not flagyl. But the point is that people don't know how these women got their bacterial infections, but that it might have something to do with inserting the pill vaginally when it's not supposed to be used that way.

So about the vaginal flagyl - In my opinion, I don't think it's a good idea. If you want to make sure to put the medication where it needs to be, why not use metrogel? A vaginal gel that contains the same medication as flagyl (metronidazole) already exists, so why use the tablet?

Anyway, THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. I'm not saying anyone should stop doing this just because I say so, but I do think everyone should hear all the information before making a choice.


Hi Lori,
I understand your concern and with the recent tension on the site, I recognize your posting as your opinion. I have often wondered about any "backlash infection" with the use of vaginal flagyl ( but that hasnt stopped me from ordering it online!!!! laugh.gif) but having said that, the actions of these two drugs are totally different.... the RU486 is a steroid medication, (not the kind athletes use to build muscle) that is obviously strong enough to effect growing cells, which is probably why the risk of infection is so much greater. Flagyl is an antibiotic and is meant to wipe out bacteria.....good and bad, which is why yeast takes over whenever we use it. just wanted to put out some more info... I'm not sure why the flagyl pill form is working when the metrogel is not, perhaps the pill used vaginally gives the medication in a more concentrated form....peace, all....I really look forward to reading your posts. Happy Mama's Day.
jewelscando
QUOTE(lori @ May 13 2007, 05:26 PM) *
Another topic: I feel bad for pooh-poohing a method that is working for some ladies, but there was something that freaked me out about inserting the flagyl vaginally. I just remembered what it was.

So about the vaginal flagyl - In my opinion, I don't think it's a good idea. If you want to make sure to put the medication where it needs to be, why not use metrogel? A vaginal gel that contains the same medication as flagyl (metronidazole) already exists, so why use the tablet?

Anyway, THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. I'm not saying anyone should stop doing this just because I say so, but I do think everyone should hear all the information before making a choice.


BECAUSE, it METONIDAZOLE vaginally DOES NOT WORK. That is why I don't use it anymore. The flagyl vaginally, works for me. No, it's not meant to go up the kitty, but, guess what, it works. Is it safe? I couldn't tell you. I have told my doctor that I am doing it, and he didn't say, don't it's going to kill you. He said, wow, I can't believe that's working. So, use at your own risk ladies.
Morphia
This is going to be my last reply here. If anyone would like to go back and actually read my posts, you'll notice that I asked for NO SUGGESTIONS other than what antibiotic I should take next. Everyone is jumping on me because I supposedly piss on your suggestions. Well, don't give them to me if I don't ask for them. I mainly came here looking for people to identify with. The only questions I asked were about symptoms. I wanted to know if other people's experiences were the same as mine. I never asked to be told what was causing my symptoms or how to fix it. I was simply trying to find out if I was the only one. And Jewels, this is not the first time you haven't been able to give someone a break. You jumped on other people's asses about mentioning their drug use when all they were doing was naming possible factors that could be causing their recurring bv. I wanted to say something about it then in their defense, but didn't want to stir anything up. The reason why I got irritated was because of the fact that you all just kept telling me what you thought I was dealing with when that is not what I wanted. I know very well what I have to do to figure out what is really going on with me which is exactly why I have an appointment with some kind of doctor at least once a week. My purpose for being here was to vent, identify, and ease the worry I feel between each doctor's appointment. To have others that are dealing with this same kind of thing to talk to. I'll just do this alone. I just wish you all could have at least done me the courtesy of rereading my posts before accusing me of something I did not do. And Lori, you make it sound as if I've pissed everyone off here. So far the only people that seem to have a problem with me are you and Jewels.
autumnbreeze
QUOTE(jewelscando @ May 13 2007, 11:14 AM) *
AUTUMN!!! WOW, it's so nice to see some of my old girls back!!! Flagyl VAGINALLY is working wonders for me!! It's not a 100% cure, however, it keeps the B.V. away for months at a time, and just takes 1 pill for me if it peaks through. Estroil is working wonders for Pianogirl and Neverending. I will be trying that next myself!! Great to see you, hope this helps!!

Pianogirl, can you give me the website you buy the Estroil from?

Thanks!! HAPPY MOTHERS DAY LADIES!!




Thanks Jewels!! Yeah, I sense some tension on the board..but anyway..I'm so glad to hear the Flagyl (vaginally) is working. Question: Did you get your Flagyl from the Dr. or did you order it online? I might try it w/some good probiotics. I'm glad Estroil is working for Neverending & Pianogirl also.


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jewelscando
MORPHIA, I didn't just jump down someone's ass, initially about the drug use. I only did so, after I felt she wasn't stating it, to figure out a reason why she had b.v. I felt it was being said, for the hell of it. I may have been wrong, but, this is an ONLINE BOARD. We are all free to say what ever it is we wish.

On another note, I'm sorry you feel the way you do, however, I hope you can appreciate our frustration. We were trying to help you, the best way we could over the Internet, and WE felt as though you kept dismissing EVERYTHING we were saying. We only became frustrated after the numerous times you dismissed what we were saying.

For those of you who do not wish to have us give you suggestions, then SAY THAT. Just say, "I'm here to vent, no need to reply to what I'm saying". This is a message board. It can be used for venting, or replying. You just need to be specific.

I hope you change your mind and decide to stay, because I sure would like to know what your doctor finds out. I'm very sorry you are going through the pain that you are, and I do not even wish that on my worst enemy. LIKE I'VE SAID A BUNCH OF TIMES, and I still feel the same way, I REALLY HOPE YOU FIND RELIEF. We are all going through the same shit here, except you have the burning. And, that SUCKS!! GOOD LUCK!!!

AUTUMN: I ordered mine online. Only after speaking live to a representative.
bvgirl
HAPPY MOTHER'S DAY TO ALL THE MOTHERS HERE..

I have a question and I am sure that someone has already asked this question because I missed reading the answer. For all the ladies using the flagyl vaginally could you please tell me how you are using it as far as how do you insert it,do you insert the pill itself or have to make suppositories out of it? I am very curious to know so I can use it for a backup because it sounds like it has helped many of you here.

Thanks in advance smile.gif
lori
QUOTE
Is it safe? I couldn't tell you. I have told my doctor that I am doing it, and he didn't say, don't it's going to kill you. He said, wow, I can't believe that's working. So, use at your own risk ladies.

Oh, that's ALL I'm saying. At your own risk. I certainly don't mean to imply that the vaginal-flagyl is dangerous for sure, but I think it should be pointed out that there are risks to using medications in ways that it's not designed for.

It's good you're keeping your doctor up on what you're doing, Jewels. I hope other ladies are doing the same. I do want to also point out, however, that some ladies who use this method have had hysterectomies? (Correct me if I'm wrong, please.) I don't mean to put anyone on the spot here, but if that's the case, they do not have to worry about upper genital tract infection, right? That's just something I'm constantly worried about due to my long BV history.

QUOTE(sciongal @ May 13 2007, 12:47 PM) *
I understand your concern and with the recent tension on the site, I recognize your posting as your opinion.

Thank you sciongal! Yes, it's just my opinion.

QUOTE(sciongal @ May 13 2007, 12:47 PM) *
I have often wondered about any "backlash infection" with the use of vaginal flagyl ( but that hasnt stopped me from ordering it online!!!! laugh.gif) but having said that, the actions of these two drugs are totally different.... the RU486 is a steroid medication, (not the kind athletes use to build muscle) that is obviously strong enough to effect growing cells, which is probably why the risk of infection is so much greater. Flagyl is an antibiotic and is meant to wipe out bacteria.....good and bad, which is why yeast takes over whenever we use it. just wanted to put out some more info...

I know RU-486 is a very different kind of drug, so I wasn't necessarily making a direct comparison. But it is an example of how using drugs in ways they aren't designed to be used carries unknown risks. So I would really advise everyone to let their doctor know they're using it this way. Sorry that I sound like a nag. I just want to make sure everyone is safe.

I'm also curious to know - **why does anyone order flagyl online? Doesn't it cost like $100? Flagyl with a prescription costs like $12 at Walgreens for me, and I get it right away. I think it's generic, though. Do you order it online because you don't want the generic version? Thanks in advance for your answer.
jewelscando
Here is what I did the first time. Inserted 1 500mg at night. Inserted a second one the next night, had sex the third night, inserted another one the following night, AND MY VAGINA ALMOST STARTED ON FIRE!!!!!! So, here is what I suggest you do, because it's what I did. I inserted 1 500 mg first night, then another one the second night. Then left it alone. About 2 days later, I do the whiff test...and it was gone. After that, I could have sex. So, I would actually wait at least 2 days after the last dose, just to be on the safe side. Another conclusion, I don't have sex very often any more, because boyfriend and I are on again off again, so when I do have sex, I use a flagyl the following evening. If you are having sex more often, you might want to becarefull with that, only because too much use of it, will cause a yeast infection. Nothing that an over the counter Monistat won't help with, but, still, you know yeast infections, they are not fun!!

I can't remember where I bought it, because it's been so long, but here's a website I have in my favorites.

http://www.horizondrugs.com/flagyl.html

If this doesn't work, just type in Buy Flagyl Online. And you should find it!! Please let me know how it works for you!!!

I BUY IT ONLINE BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE INSURANCE. SO I DON'T WANT TO PAY AT THE DOCTOR AND AT THE PHARMACY. AND NO, IT'S NOT $100, I THINK IT COST ME $35?? CAN'T REMEMBER
klee
Hello!

I hope everyone is well and enjoying the spring. Things are good in my hood but I wanted to bring up an idea to you guys.

Have any of you tried Chinese medicine? Don't laugh! I have a couple friends that do acupuncture and Chinese medicine and although it isn't the answer for everything, it's actually more effective for some ailments. For example, the basic problem with bv is that your body is out of balance, right? So the aim of Chinese medicine is to bring your body back into optimal balance and also clear out the toxins. They refer to this frequently as clearing heat or damp. It's a very holistic approach to health but with proven results.

Anyway, I'm going to start weekly acupuncture and herbs for my skin and allergies but I saw on the list of treatments available, there are often Chinese herbalists who work with gynecological issues like my friend. There's centuries of research and practice behind this type of treatment and you would certainly want to make sure to go to an experienced acupuncturist/herbalist with their masters in Traditional Chinese medicine.

The drawback is obviously the cost but you typically receive an hour of their treatments/acupuncture plus the cost of the herbs. And it IS intended to cure you. But they may ask you to change certain things that you do - like eat less sugar etc.

Just putting that out there for people who might be interested.

Have a good one! biggrin.gif
lori
Hey everyone. I thought we could use a list of things that people on this board have tried in the past to deal with their BV - so I created a blog. I thought it would be a good reference. It's in the very beginning stages, so I will continue to work on it. Just thought I'd give everyone a heads-up!

http://www.bust.com/lounge/index.php?autom...;blogid=11&
arj75
Good Morning Ladies,
Maybe most of you have already researched the theory of toilet paper harvesting bacteria. I am very busy today but just pulled up this tid bit from The Epochtimes..Unsanitary Chinese toilet paer linked to health problems.....experts confirm that high bacteria count toilet paper can cause gyneclogical infections and skin disease. I haven't read about Americans studies..maybe ours is safe..doubtful...public restrooms..shit spores float gals.....

Great idea Lori!!! I am not crafty with the computer skills as of yet...so forgive me if I don't know how to attach links and so forth..I will learn...but not on the top of my list at this point.

Kylee, I totally agree with you, you and I are on the same page...

Great book to get gals......Prescription for Nutrition Healing....by Phyllis Balk (hell if I know if that's spelled right..book is at my mom's house right now.
arj75
Lori,

If you have time..(List the product that I found recently too...Ultimate Flora (Probiotic). $35.99.. What is the cost of that fem stuff?
I also am going to start eating Dannon Activia Yogurt twice a day. Before this BV, I have only had a few yeast infections in my life, and had cured them by eating yogurt and just using creams to relieve the burning and itching caused from the yeast....
sciongal
QUOTE(lori @ May 14 2007, 03:09 AM) *
Hey everyone. I thought we could use a list of things that people on this board have tried in the past to deal with their BV - so I created a blog. I thought it would be a good reference. It's in the very beginning stages, so I will continue to work on it. Just thought I'd give everyone a heads-up!

http://www.bust.com/lounge/index.php?autom...;blogid=11&

Hey Lori,

great idea!!! thanks for putting the blog together... rolleyes.gif
kittypassion
Hi everyone, I just found out I have that same problem BV. Im scared cause as soon as I found out I went online and research as it was my thesis in college. I found interesting facts, hiwever i also found out of the negative consequences. I heard that BV can lead to pelvic inflamatory disease which causes a woman to be sterile. I want to have babies I am barely 23 years old and I plan on having at least one baby. Ever since I started to have sex (a year ago) everything has been nothing but problems. I have only had 3 partners. This recently one that I am being exclusively sleeping with I'm not comfortable speaking to about things like this... I don't want to jeopardize my 6 month relantionship.. sad.gif im at a point that I wish i never had sex and to do matters worse I have stopped having sex with him and he is becoming frustuated my me. some one please advise me cause I don't know what to do and i can't talk to my mom about this problem.
sciongal
Hi Jewels, ( and all)

Yay! I just got the flagyl tabs in the mail today...but would'nt ya know I started my period! Should I wait until the period is over to try the tablets vaginally??? Also, these are 400 mg strength, I know you used 500 mg, think this will be enough or should I make up the difference by cutting one in quarters also??? Sorry to be so nervous nellie, but I really am hoping this works as well for me as it has for you! Thanks.
babs
Hello ladies. I am new to your forum. I found this site searching online for any information about BV and I almost cried when I came across this site. I feel so alone, so frustrated, so completely at my wits end from dealing with my BV for 28 years. All I long for is the ability to be spontanious when I have sex, completely comfortable and not worried about the odor. My love life is completely controled by my BV. I have seen Doctors over the years and was once given flagyl oraly, and turns out I am highly allergic. I have been given metranitozol, and clindamyacin (sorry about spelling) and I am very allergic to all forms of these medications,oral or vaginal. The only treatments offered to me I cant use. I have tried things that I have read about, or heard from others, like taking acidophilus orally, and vaginally, baking soda douche, garlic, vitamin C, internet quick fix herbal type pills, creams that claim to wipe out BV in a few days. I have eaten gallons of yogurt at a time, and even inserted it vaginally for a week, no help. I recently read online that Tetrasil works, so I ordered that, just got it in the mail today, but now an not sure how to use it, for how long, and is it safe to insert vaginally? I am so frustrated, so completley consumed with this BV I am not sure what to do. To find a place like this is a godsend. To know others out there are fighting the same battle is unreal.
So, I know that many of you have answered this same question over an over again, but I am hoping that your not to burned out to answer it again.......WHAT DO I DO? Knowing that I am highly allergic to the traditional medications prescribed for BV, any suggestions? Any thoughts on the tetrasil I just got? There is only one thing that takes the odor of BV away for me for a few hours, just long enough to have sex comfortably without the concern and fear of the odor, and its the suppository called Norforms. I get them at most drug stores. It does not take away my BV, just the odor for a few hours so I can at least have oral sex with my boyfriend without the dread. But I am desperate to find a permanent fix. I dont have insurance, so seeing multiple Doctors is not an option, and besides, all they offer is flagyl, or clindemyacin, and I cant take either.
I have been unable to share this problem with any man in my life. I cant bring myself to talk to my boyfriend now about it. Its a shameful secret I have kept for 28 years. He just thinks I am not spontaneous with sex, and maybe a bit frigid. Far from the truth. I love sex, and would love to have it more with him, but the fear of the offensive odor keeps me from it. PLEASE HELP! Thank you all so much.....
arj75
Welcome to the board Babs,
I'm so sorry that you suffer from this as well. I really don't know what to tell you..other than not to give up. Recently, I told my boyfriend about this, and he was very understanding. It was not easy, and I'm sure it isn't for anyone. If he flees, then he isn't a man worth having around to start with. Any information that I find that I feel may be of a benefit to you, I most definately will inform you. And I will look! Like you, I have no insurance. I had a planned parenthood appointment today, and well, sure as shit, I started my period. This is the third month that it has been rescheduled (from their poor planning)..and when they resheduled this one, I wasn't worried about my period because I normally started later in the month. O well. Keep your chin up!

I'm interested in your past, and current health history,smoking, drug use, medications, blood type, nationality, personality type, and whatever else you are comfortable in sharing. If you want to bitch..feel free. I have already read several articles of how this may be induced from stress!!!

arj75
Hey you all,
This is something that you may want to just consider...I'm going to start monitoring my diet. There are a several sites that you can enter your information and it will record and calculate the information. It can't hurt nothing to improve our diets!! Until recently, I have been a fan of anything pickled, love salt, and I have a little french fries with my ketchup. Not only that, but i also love mustard, cole slaw..ok anything with vinegar. I have already read to exclude this from my diet, as it is considered to be a trigger. On the reverse end, some have used it as a douche and it has helped with the stinch.
babs
Thank you for your reply ajr75. The thought of telling my boyfriend terrifies me, but I know it will make things easier for me if he understands. I need to do it, and I know I will, its just a matter of finding the nerve. He is a very mature understanding man, so I am sure it will be fine.
As for me, I am 41. Caucasion, no smoking, no drug use, personality type...a nurturer! I have one daughter, almost 20. I first noticed my BV when I was around 13. Just about the time I hit puberty. I recall sitting crosslegged in the gym at school, and having the strong odor hit me like a brick, and uncrossing my legs! I did not become sexually aqctive until the age of 16. I had BV 3 years before I had my first sexual encounter. Because I have had it since puberty, I dont think anything I did or didnt do has resulted having BV. My health has been generaly good over the years, I am currently dealing with a back injury, the stress from that has been tough, but it seems in good times or bad, through out the years I hae had BV...no matter what. The one time I had complete relief from BV was when I was given a prescription for vaginal clindemyacin ovules. I used them six nights in a row, by the third nght, I was in so much pain, and my entire vagianal area swelled twice its size. This was the allergic reaction I described in my first post. This was about 4 years ago. However, after the allergic reaction went away, I had no symptoms of the BV for two months!! It was BLISS....but of course, it came back. The allergic reaction was so painful I did not try it again. But any ideas are welcomed. I have alot of timeon my hands and willing to try ANYTHING. I am so greatful to have an outlet for my frustration and sadness in this forum!
arj75
Hi Babs, I just found this a few moments ago, and well the information is a little old (2005) but the Europeans did or are still using this drug to treat BV. Not sure what chemical properties it has, or how you would go about ordering it (if you even can). Tinidazole.

I found some interesting information regarding latic acid today, and stainless steel douching as well.
babs
Hi arj75.
Unfortunatly, Tinidazole is in the "zole" family, as in Metranitazole (flagyl) and I am highly allergic. Lactic acid is used in making most yogurts, I would be interested in what you found, is it used in pure form as a vaginal insert? And stainless steel douching?? Wow..do tell...the words sound a bit intimidating, but let me know what you read.
SFgirl
I recently had an intense and painful reaction to Bacterial Vaginosis and was ill for about three weeks. I've had recurring BV since my early 20's. I'm now in my 40's. While the BV has been ever present over the last 20 years, it has never caused severe stomach pain until recently. In the past I've taken antibiotics which has resolved the symptoms, albeit temporarily. Symptoms usually returned after an antibiotic course within 2 months. My most recent experience with BV caused severe stomach pain, cramping, and constipation. The BV triggered Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS) symtoms. After a trip to the doctor, and several tests to rule out other disorders, the doctor concluded the same -- that BV had triggered IBS-like symtoms. I was given Flagyl which helped to relieve symptoms, including the stomach pain and constipation, and recovered two weeks later. However, much to my dismay, the BV returned during the third week of my recovery and the symptoms, to include stomach pain, began to return. I've held it in check and have overcome the symptoms using probiotics and this approach has been more effective for me than antibiotic treatment. The probiotic I used was liquid Bio-K. I used Bio-K, orally, twice daily for about a month. In addition, I inserted Bio-K vaginally once daily for 1 week. Bio-K reduced BV and my stomach symptoms in 3 days. After 1 week, the symptoms were gone. I now drink Bio-K once daily and insert Bio-K vaginally 3 times per week for maintenance. Since the product is expensive (about $5 per container), I'm supplementing my daily Bio-K intake with less expensive probiotic capsules to keep my healthy bacterial levels up. Bio-K can be purchased at most health food stores. I like the non-dairy formula (it tastes like mango) but have used the dairy formula with success. I hope this helps a fellow BV sufferer. -- SFgirl.
babs
SFgirl- Thanks for sharing your experiences with BV. I would like to ask you a few things. You use liquid Bio-K orally twice daily, and inserted vaginally everyday for a week. Is it a thin liquid? Is it important to try to keep the liquid in the vaginal canal for a while, or just flush it up there? And you say you use a cheaper probiotic now orally but are you still using the Bio-K liquid vaginally 3x week? I am never sure what probiotic to use, because I have taken them before, and they state they are for digestive health. I am not sure if they work on vaginal flora. They dont seem to ever help when I take them orally. But thanks, and I will try it. I am willing to try ANYTHING.
arj75
Good evening everyone,

I found a site that a doctor had listed on different prescriptions and home remendies to maintain BV. I believe it listed some medicines that maybe you could take as well BABS Also, maybe I'm just seeing things, but it looked as if he was offering to answer any questions or concerns that we may have, and he listed his info at the site. www.vaginosis.com

Good Night everyone.

Glad your feeling better ilovehim!
SFgirl
Hi Babs,
I've taken probiotics in the past, such as freeze-dried capsules, and have inserted plain yogurt vaginally. While that approach was effective in that it reduced my symptoms, it didn't clear the BV. Due to the way freeze-dried probiotics are processed and transported, I question whether they have the viable number of friendly bacteria needed to clear BV (at least my BV!). Bio-K, which is a "live" liquid probiotic, guarantees a minimum of 50 billion live bacteria per 3.5 ounce container. If we were to compare Bio-K to yogurt, you would need 100 3.5 ounce servings of yogurt to get the same amount of live bacteria.

Moving on to your questions:
"Is it a thin liquid? Is it important to try to keep the liquid in the vaginal canal for a while, or just flush it up there?"
The non-dairy formula is not as thick as yogurt. It has the consistency of kefir. I have one container set aside in the fridge for vaginal use and I use a syringe. I use it at night and I fill the entire syringe. I use my muscles to hold the liquid inside the vaginal canal for a few minutes. If I'm laying down, it stays put pretty well during sleep but I do sleep with a towel under me on the nights that I insert Bio-K. I haven't tried douching with it, but that approach may be worth exploring.

"And you say you use a cheaper probiotic now orally but are you still using the Bio-K liquid vaginally 3x week?"
Well, yes and more. I still take Bio-K orally (one container per day). I split the Bio-K oral dose (one container of liquid probiotic) in half and use part 1 in the morning, and part 2 in the evening. I cut the dose to one Bio-K container per day when my BV symptoms cleared completely. Prior to symptoms clearing, I drank two containers per day. In between the morning and evening Bio-K dose, I take 2 freeze-dried probiotic capsules. The capsules I have are the kind that have to be stored in the fridge. I insert Bio-K vaginally 3 times per week. I use the non-dairy formula for vaginal use because I prefer the non-dairy product. I imagine the dairy product would work just as well.

The live bacteria in Bio-K, when taken orally, makes its way down to the vaginal area. As I recall (you may want to double check this on Bio-K's web site), 68 percent of the live bacteria makes it way down to the vaginal area. I give that number an extra boost by inserting it vaginally. The "friendly" bacteria populate and outnumber the "bad" bacteria in the vaginal area and have thus cleared my symptoms.

I've tried everything over the years and Bio-K is the only thing that kicked my BV (and tummy pain). I would suggest looking at Bio-K's web site for clinical studies.

Hope this helps.

Best,
SFgirl

lori
QUOTE(arj75 @ May 14 2007, 08:47 AM) *
Lori,

If you have time..(List the product that I found recently too...Ultimate Flora (Probiotic). $35.99.. What is the cost of that fem stuff?
I also am going to start eating Dannon Activia Yogurt twice a day. Before this BV, I have only had a few yeast infections in my life, and had cured them by eating yogurt and just using creams to relieve the burning and itching caused from the yeast....

Hey arj75! Thanks, I will add it! (Fem-dophilus costs $24 at Whole Foods [fridge] and about $15 online [vitacost.com, etc, not in fridge] - for 30 caps)


QUOTE(SFgirl @ May 14 2007, 06:08 PM) *
The BV triggered Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS) symtoms. After a trip to the doctor, and several tests to rule out other disorders, the doctor concluded the same -- that BV had triggered IBS-like symtoms. I was given Flagyl which helped to relieve symptoms, including the stomach pain and constipation, and recovered two weeks later.

Hello SFgirl, welcome to the board! I don't think the BV triggered your IBS-like symptoms, it was probably the antibiotics. The same thing happened to me after taking clindamycin (oral) - it kills the "good" bacteria in your gut, and disturbs the balance. The concept is similar to how BV occurs, but it is probably not directly caused by BV.

It sounds like you may have had a Clostridium difficile infection - an overgrowth of this bacteria is a known side effect of clindamycin. It makes sense because taking metronidazole relieved your symptoms - metronidazole kills the C. difficile bacteria. (Confusing, huh?)

Just another way BV can screw up your life. *sigh*

But I'm glad you discovered that probiotics helped you! I used Culturelle, and that really helped with my symptoms. I've also heard good things about Activia yogurt. But maybe I'll try Bio-K next time. I like that it's in liquid form. It's very pricey, but most good probiotics seem to be.

Thanks for telling us that inserting Bio-K vaginally is helping you.

Anyway, I highly recommend that if you ever take antibiotics again for any reason, make sure you let your doctor know you've had intestinal troubles. And while taking the antibiotics, make sure you're also taking Bio-K and keep an eye on your symptoms.

QUOTE(babs @ May 14 2007, 06:37 PM) *
I am never sure what probiotic to use, because I have taken them before, and they state they are for digestive health. I am not sure if they work on vaginal flora. They dont seem to ever help when I take them orally. But thanks, and I will try it. I am willing to try ANYTHING.

Hello babs, welcome to the board! Fem-dophilus is a product specifically designed for vaginal health. You take it orally. I've been taking it for over 2 months now, and so far so good.

(Another product is Gy-Natren. This stuff is horrible and caused irritation and a lot of problems. Not recommended.)

QUOTE(kittypassion @ May 14 2007, 12:33 PM) *
Hi everyone, I just found out I have that same problem BV. Im scared cause as soon as I found out I went online and research as it was my thesis in college. I found interesting facts, hiwever i also found out of the negative consequences. I heard that BV can lead to pelvic inflamatory disease which causes a woman to be sterile.

Hello kittypassion, welcome to the board! I have the same fear. I had undiagnosed BV for at least 3 years - went to the gyno a bunch of times, but all they did was test for STD's and didn't treat my BV. I had a bunch of pap tests, too, and the report always read - "inflammation" and "acute cervicitis." (Cervicitis = inflammation of cervix) Not to mention I was in pain! But they did NOTHING!

I have the very same fear - that during that time of retarded doctors, my BV may have advanced into my upper genital tract and fucked with my reproductive organs. I have anxiety attacks and nightmares about it.

*deep breath*

Anyway, I've read up a lot about this online. BV does increase your chance of getting PID in conjunction with other factors - gonorrhea, chlamydia, abortion or other surgery/procedure, etc. Since I haven't dealt with any of these, I've been trying to figure out if BV alone can cause PID - and different sources will tell you different things. Some sources say it is possible (because a small percentage women who have had PID had BV, but did not also have gonorrhea/chlamydia/procedures, etc).

In any case, it is relatively rare. The bad news for me is that I have had cervicitis which went away after my BV was treated. Cervicitis is one of the main symptoms of PID. And this is what makes me wake up in the middle of the night crying. The good news for me is that it is kind of rare. I have had a trans-vaginal ultrasound, which showed that they didn't see anything really messed up - but that's just a preliminary diagnosis for PID, so they can't be sure. But at least my ultrasound went well, so I'm just going to think positive and hope for the best.

So don't worry, kittypassion. You probably didn't have BV as long as I have without treatment, so it's very unlikely that you got PID also. But here's what you need to do. You need to make sure you're under the care of a doctor. (Hopefully none of them are as retarded as mine were.) Take ORAL antibiotics (rather than the vaginal gel/cream, which target the lower genital tract), and talk to him/her about your upper genital tract concerns. Also make sure that you are having safe sex and protecting yourself from STD's - because those WILL fuck with your reproductive organs for sure!

*Just want to remind everyone that I'm working on a blog on this site - just a compendium of suggestions from this thread. I thought it would be a good reference:

http://www.bust.com/lounge/index.php?autom...;blogid=11&

Please help me think of a name for the blog!
lori
QUOTE(SFgirl @ May 14 2007, 07:43 PM) *
The live bacteria in Bio-K, when taken orally, makes its way down to the vaginal area. As I recall (you may want to double check this on Bio-K's web site), 68 percent of the live bacteria makes it way down to the vaginal area.

Hey SFgirl. I've been reading the bio-K site, and I don't see anything there about this. Can you point me in the right direction? Thanks.

http://www.biokplus.com/Contenu.aspx?nav_i...9&lang_id=A

Arj75, is this the Ultimate Flora that you're taking?

http://www.renewlife.com/flowmeter.cfm?meter=438
SFgirl
Hi Lori,
Thanks for the info! The IBS symptoms didn't occur after taking the antibiotics. Thus, the stomach symptoms weren't caused by the antibiotics. Those symptoms (IBS and BV) were comorbid. My doctor felt the overgrowth of bacteria triggered IBS. The antibiotics relieved both the BV symptoms and IBS. When both flared up again after finishing a course of antibiotics, I began taking Bio-K which cleared both.
Sfgirl
Morphia
Ok, I know I said I wasn't coming back but I can't leave. I'm terrified right now. I found this at the vaginosis site: "Clindesse should not be prescibed for this condition". I also read somewhere else on the site that it shouldn't be prescribed for a first time diagnosis. Well my doctor prescribed it to me for my first time diagnosis! I'm just scared and trying to hold back tears as I think about the fact that I could have had this beat with Flagyl the first time around and I'm so angry with my doctor. He's supposed to be one of the best where I live. I may not be here right now if it weren't for that God forsaken Clindesse! I just want to go cry myself to to sleep and not wake up until my doctors appointment Friday. I know that some of you here are already sick of me but I can't leave yet. I need you all. Especially now. I'm just too damn scared that I'm going to burn in the bv fires of hell (literally) forever because of that shit. And I wouldn't be so damn scared if this infection didn't cause me pain. I can always feel it. Sometimes I wish I just had the smell and no pain. But instead I have pain and no smell. And I do tell myself its better that I don't have both. But I still don't want this burning. I just need to shut the fuck up and cry it out. I'm hysterical right now and need to go before I stop making sense.
lori
QUOTE(Morphia @ May 14 2007, 09:25 PM) *
Ok, I know I said I wasn't coming back but I can't leave. I'm terrified right now.

Welcome back, Morphia. You need to calm down!

The vaginosis.com dude (I've read that site before) is just ONE source. And he sells shit on his site, so he comes off to me like a huckster, and I find some of his claims dubious.

And besides, all he's saying is that one-dose treatments like Clindesse is not as effective. As far as the resistant bacteria - it just means you may be resistant to future clindamycin treatment.

Clindamycin is basically a stronger, broad spectrum antibiotic which sort of kills everything in sight, which is why flagyl is the first line of defense for BV. So there are more antibiotic-associated side effects with clindamycin, such as the C. difficile infection (which I talked about already on this page). A bad C. difficile infection makes you poop blood and even kill you, but it is treatable, too. So if you don't have it, you will be fine.

How many times have you used Clindesse? Unless you used it twice in 90 days (according to this guy), you probably have nothing to worry about. Your body isn't screwed up forever, so you need to calm down.

So next time, read the whole site (vaginosis.com) before freaking out. Yes, he said Clindesse shouldn't be prescribed, and he even bolded it. But if you read through the specific reasons, you'll see that it's NO BIG DEAL:

- may not be as effective (yes, this sucks, but it's not the worst thing in the world)
- may cause more side effects (again, if you're not pooping blood, you're probably going to live)
- may cause resistance (yes, this isn't good, but you've only used it once, in one-dosage form, it probably cleared your system long ago; not the end of the world)

Is this anything to hyperventilate about? A reason to be "terrified?" No, it's really not.
lori
SFgirl -

QUOTE(SFgirl @ May 14 2007, 08:36 PM) *
Those symptoms (IBS and BV) were comorbid. My doctor felt the overgrowth of bacteria triggered IBS.

Well, that's definitely a new one.

In any case, I too believe probiotics are probably the best solution - both for the intestine troubles and the recurrent BV. Where do you buy your Bio-K?

Also, can you point me to the Bio-K site where it says that the live bacteria (68%?) ends up in the vaginal tract? I've been reading it, but just can't find it. (All they talk about are the intestines.)
Morphia
Clindesse is a vaginal cream. And if you were in the same kind of pain that I'm in most of the time you'd be afraid too. That Clindesse probably wiped out what little lactobacilli I had left in my vagina after all that Augmentin and Amoxicillin I took. So, yes. I do think this is something to be freaked out about. Especially since its next to impossible to recolonize ANYTHING with the good, friendly bacteria. I'm sure you don't mean to be harsh, but I feel like you're belittling my fear. This is why I hate forums. Its impossible to tell real emotion. Just know that I'm not jumping on you. While you SEEM harsh, what you've said is actually more comforting than anything. Thank you. And I know I'm probably going over board. But if I didn't come here and go over the top and let it all out, I'd empty my bank account on online purchases. lol. I've already scarfed down an ass load of sugar (which only made me feel like shit.) I have no coping skills.
lori
QUOTE(Morphia @ May 14 2007, 10:11 PM) *
Especially since its next to impossible to recolonize ANYTHING with the good, friendly bacteria.

I don't think that's necessarily true. Bacteria is a living organism and it reproduces. Doesn't happen fast enough, unfortunately, but it's not impossible. Once again, I think probiotics is the best solution we've got to help it along.

QUOTE(Morphia @ May 14 2007, 10:11 PM) *
While you SEEM harsh, what you've said is actually more comforting than anything. Thank you.

You're welcome. Consider it a slap across your face, because GIRL. YOU. WERE. FREAKING. OUT.

But seriously, aren't you going to your doctor this week? I'm sorry you're feeling pain, but I already gave you a suggestion for that, and you won't do it. So ... here's what I think you should do. STOP THINKING ABOUT YOUR VAGINA. I know it's hard because it's burning and everything, but just don't think about it before the appointment. The more you think about it, the more you obsess, and the more you go on crazy freak-outs. It's totally useless, because there's nothing you can do until you see your doctor.

Think about shopping. Or watch a good movie. Give yourself a makeover. I don't know what relaxes you, but you know what I mean.

If you absolutely can't stop thinking about it, as bvgirl suggested, type out all your concerns and questions so you can bring it with you when you go to your dr's appointment.
jewelscando
MORPHIA...So glad to see you back!! I wanted to apologize for coming on so strong...however, we all are pretty stressed out with this shit. For most of us, we've been on this board, dealing with it for years, and when someone new comes in, it's like "Well, welcome to our fricken world"!

Don't stress girl. That's all I can tell you. I know you have a hard time with it, but it really isn't helping your situation. There is HOPE at the end of the fish heads!! Just be patient. Before you know it, you'll be right up with us, bitching at the new comers!!!

LORI - ARE YOU A DOCTOR?? Because I have to agree a bit with Morpia. You do come across a bit condensending. Like, you know more then we do?? PLEASE DON'T START ANY SHIT WITH THIS, I was just making an observation. I was shocked when I came on tonight and how many posts we had today. DOESN'T ANYBODY FRICKEN WORK??? hahahahah. wink.gif
lori
QUOTE(jewelscando @ May 14 2007, 11:36 PM) *
LORI - ARE YOU A DOCTOR?? Because I have to agree a bit with Morpia. You do come across a bit condensending.

That is hilarious coming from you Jewels! laugh.gif

Let's see, you recently told someone "I don't want to hear about your drug problems!" And then you told off another newbie, "Read the whole thread before you ask questions!" And then you told another user, "Your suggestion is bad!"

And you accuse me of being condescending?

QUOTE(jewelscando @ May 14 2007, 11:36 PM) *
Like, you know more then we do?? PLEASE DON'T START ANY SHIT WITH THIS, I was just making an observation. I was shocked when I came on tonight and how many posts we had today. DOESN'T ANYBODY FRICKEN WORK??? hahahahah. wink.gif

We got a bunch of newbies today, and at least one had an awesome suggestion that really might help someone out there.(Thanks SFgirl!) I happen to think that is great. Why do you have a problem with that?

It would be nice if YOU would NOT try to start shit, while you are asking people to not start shit ...

QUOTE(jewelscando @ May 14 2007, 11:36 PM) *
Before you know it, you'll be right up with us, bitching at the new comers!!!

I just don't understand why anyone wants to bitch at newcomers.
arj75
Lori, Yes that is the same stuff I got. It was kept in the cooler at my health food store. I just recently started taking it. I will let everyone know how it is going. I'm on my period right now. Keeping my fingers crossed.
bvgirl
QUOTE(jewelscando @ May 14 2007, 12:25 AM) *
Here is what I did the first time. Inserted 1 500mg at night. Inserted a second one the next night, had sex the third night, inserted another one the following night, AND MY VAGINA ALMOST STARTED ON FIRE!!!!!! So, here is what I suggest you do, because it's what I did. I inserted 1 500 mg first night, then another one the second night. Then left it alone. About 2 days later, I do the whiff test...and it was gone. After that, I could have sex. So, I would actually wait at least 2 days after the last dose, just to be on the safe side. Another conclusion, I don't have sex very often any more, because boyfriend and I are on again off again, so when I do have sex, I use a flagyl the following evening. If you are having sex more often, you might want to becarefull with that, only because too much use of it, will cause a yeast infection. Nothing that an over the counter Monistat won't help with, but, still, you know yeast infections, they are not fun!!

I can't remember where I bought it, because it's been so long, but here's a website I have in my favorites.

http://www.horizondrugs.com/flagyl.html

If this doesn't work, just type in Buy Flagyl Online. And you should find it!! Please let me know how it works for you!!!

I BUY IT ONLINE BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE INSURANCE. SO I DON'T WANT TO PAY AT THE DOCTOR AND AT THE PHARMACY. AND NO, IT'S NOT $100, I THINK IT COST ME $35?? CAN'T REMEMBER



Thank you for responding so quickly.. I will bookmark the website. Thanks
bvgirl
Oh by the way, when you insert the flagyl pill does it dissolve quickly inside or does it take time?
lori
QUOTE(arj75 @ May 15 2007, 05:57 AM) *
Lori, Yes that is the same stuff I got. It was kept in the cooler at my health food store. I just recently started taking it. I will let everyone know how it is going. I'm on my period right now. Keeping my fingers crossed.

Thanks arj75. Good luck and keep us updated.
sassy
Lori--I just want to say a little something to defend jewels. While I haven't posted lately, jewels and I have been on here since this thread was only about 2 pages. I think we, and some others, have both developed a fair amount of skepticism to anyone on here that is new. Since we've been here there has been at least one or two run-ins with people promoting products and not really suffering from BV, and there was one case where a holistic doctor type person posted CONSTANTLY on here and didn't even have BV or really know how to treat it. There are other girls who post clearly incorrect information and then people who refuse to somewhat read the thread before posting and therefore repeat a lot of information over and over again. I also think she jokes around a lot, which is hard to interpret on a message board, and you took her jokes out of context in one of your recent posts. Ultimately, we are on the right track with the BV blog so hopefully we can eliminate a lot of these problems. We are all trying to find an answer and SHOULD be on eachother's side.
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