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Morphia
QUOTE(sciongal @ May 16 2007, 05:41 PM) *
Hi Morphia,
did you take the flagyl orally or vaginally, just wondering...



I took it orally.
anitsirhc
hey ladies, just a question. cramps are a sign of bv right? they feel like period cramps just not nearly as bad. i just hurt down there. dry.gif
lori
QUOTE(anitsirhc @ May 16 2007, 09:30 PM) *
hey ladies, just a question. cramps are a sign of bv right? they feel like period cramps just not nearly as bad. i just hurt down there. dry.gif

I talked about this a couple days ago - I had the same experience. But I've learned it's NOT a common symptom.

I had undiagnosed BV for at least 3 years - went to 3 different gynecologists, at least 12 times, but all they did was test for STD's (all negative) and didn't treat me for anything. I had a bunch of pap tests, too, and luckily, they were all normal. But the report always said things like - "inflammation" and "cervicitis" and "acute cervicitis." (Cervicitis = inflammation of cervix)

So I would ask the doctor - "What should I do about the acute cervicitis? It sounds bad." And she would say, "Oh, nothing. Everyone has it, it's normal." blink.gif

And I had a dull, crampy feeling all the time. I would complain about it, and the doctors would tell me that it's no big deal.

Anyway, the pain got progessively worse. For me, the nasty smell and discharge were the least of my problems, I was in pain all the time! I finally just walked into a PP clinic, and they diagnosed me with BV right away. They gave me metrogel and I felt better for the 1st time in 3 years.

So that's what happened to me 4 years ago. I've been dealing with recurrences, since then - whenever the BV comes back, I feel the dull pain before I see/smell any funky discharge. When I went back to PP for more treatment, I told my RN that I had a dull pain, and she told me that crampy pain is not a common symptom of BV. So I went to a different doctor, who was much more understanding.

What scares me about this is that I'm afraid the cervicitis was/is an indication of PID. BV makes you more vulnerable to PID if you also have chlamydia/gonorrhea/procedure, and luckily I haven't had to deal with those.

But there are now sources online that says PID can be caused by BV, independent of these other factors. (WebMD: "PID can also develop as a result of bacterial vaginosis (BV) ...") So this really upsets me, to know that there is a possibility that my upper genital tract became infected because I went to a bunch of retarded doctors who didn't treat me.

Anyway - that dull pain you feel may be a result of cervicitis. I really recommend that you get it looked at.

Here's a med journal article you might want to read - Risk Factors for Cervicitis among Women with Bacterial Vaginosis
jewelscando
Yes, if you go back on the boards, the discussion of HPV was brought up several times, and I think 1 person was diagnosed with it, but others were not. For me, I've had a partial hysterectomy, which means, I'm almost MAN!! Ok, just kidding, but, all they left in were my Ovaries.

I still "Ovulate", because I do still get cramps however, I DO NOT HAVE PERIODS obviously. My B.V. started about a year or so after the Hysterectomy. Started out small, then NOW, it's frequent. But, seriously, for me, the flagyl vaginally has been my biggest success to date, keeping it at bay for longer periods of time.

I do have 1 worry though. Do you all think, since obviously this is not a cure, that my body could start building up a resistance to the Flagyl vaginally??

I've researched inserting the pill vaginally, and find nothing on it. My doctor doesn't seemed concerned with anything bad happening to me, however, I didn't ask him about building up a resistance.

anitsirhc, with everything in life...everyone's symptoms are different!!! I don't get cramps with B.V. just a smell. Morphia get's burning, I don't. So, I would just watch it closely. If it get's worse, you might want to get checked out and make sure you're not developing a bladder infection or kidney infections.

Morphia... can you ask your doctor about entering the flagyl vaginally?? I told my doctors about this board, and when I try different things, they write them down, and do their own research!! OBVIOUSLY, I'm not the only person going in for this same issue!!!! But I'd be interested in knowing what our doctor says compared to mine!! Thanks!!
Morphia
QUOTE(anitsirhc @ May 16 2007, 11:30 PM) *
hey ladies, just a question. cramps are a sign of bv right? they feel like period cramps just not nearly as bad. i just hurt down there. dry.gif



I get it. But I, like Lori, had this stuff for an extended period of time without knowing it.
anitsirhc
alright i will tell my doctor about it when i go. i go to planned parenthood too. i haven't always had this crampy feeling with bv. i noticed it for a while when i first got bv (but i didn't have the pain until after my doctor gave me clindesse) and since then it's been on and off. it could be from my birth control too cause i kind of get pms symptoms when i start a new pack (like cravings, i eat so much crap whenever i start a new pack) and i just started it this week. but i will mention it to my doctor. i always thought cramps and back pain were normal symptoms. guess i was wrong! and i think i did have bv for a long time without knowing it also. i didn't know anything was wrong until my doctor told me (when i went for my annual pap.) and i always had discharge too, i just thought it was normal discharge. so i could have had it for a really long time without knowing.
lori
QUOTE(anitsirhc @ May 16 2007, 10:09 PM) *
i always thought cramps and back pain were normal symptoms. guess i was wrong!

Yeah, sorry I went into a big long story about what happened to me. Got a little carried away. But to sum up:

- the dull, crampy feeling may be a result of cervicitis (inflammation of cervix), which could be an indication that your upper genital tract *might* be involved

I don't mean to be an alarmist, but I don't think the pain is normal, and you should try to get to the bottom of it. If the doctor/RN tries to brush it aside like they did with me, don't let them.

One suggestion is - if you get antibiotics, get the oral rather than the vaginal gel/cream, because those target the lower genital tract. (Hopefully the pills won't make you sick and stuff.)
anitsirhc
QUOTE(lori @ May 17 2007, 01:24 AM) *
Yeah, sorry I went into a big long story about what happened to me. Got a little carried away. But to sum up:

- the dull, crampy feeling may be a result of cervicitis (inflammation of cervix), which could be an indication that your upper genital tract *might* be involved

I don't mean to be an alarmist, but I don't think the pain is normal, and you should try to get to the bottom of it. If the doctor/RN tries to brush it aside like they did with me, don't let them.

One suggestion is - if you get antibiotics, get the oral rather than the vaginal gel/cream, because those target the lower genital tract. (Hopefully the pills won't make you sick and stuff.)


ok i'll probably make an appointment and go to planned parenthood on monday. right now it's kind of bad. worse than it's been before.

and i refuse to take antibiotics for this anymore so that won't happen. i hate antibiotics. and doctors. my doctor once prescribed me flagyl 500mg 3x a day (obviously too much) and i was throwing up and really sick.

but now i'm worried about going to the doctor cause i started the yeast arrest today and they always say "no gels or creams or anything inserted in the vagina 2 days before the apointment." how am i supposed to get tested? i dont' want to stop taking it. ughh this is all so frustrating!!!

oh, and don't be sorry about telling me your story haha.
Morphia
I too am curious as to whether or not anyone else has had an actual culture done. I don't want this question to be forgotten. I've noticed that so many posts can happen here that certain questions get forgotten or over looked. This one is important. anitsirhc, when you go see your doctor request a culture too. That's what I'm going to do.
anitsirhc
QUOTE(Morphia @ May 17 2007, 01:33 AM) *
I too am curious as to whether or not anyone else has had an actual culture done. I don't want this question to be forgotten. I've noticed that so many posts can happen here that certain questions get forgotten or over looked. This one is important. anitsirhc, when you go see your doctor request a culture too. That's what I'm going to do.


honestly, i'm not really sure what the difference between getting a culture done and what they usually do. can you tell me? i will definitely ask when i go though.
NotCatEyed
QUOTE(ilovehim @ May 16 2007, 04:11 PM) *
Thats something i never heard of! But it sounds like it's worth a try. Besides what could we possibly lose? I'm a little confused though because I thought lemon is alkaline once it enters the body not acidic. Can you explain this better to me?


ilovehim: You are very correct. I looked it up. Actually once consumed lemon is in fact alkaline. But you should apparently eat 80/20 alkaline acid diet in order to promote the right ph balance. Things like sugars, dairy, meat, alcohol are actually acid foods and should be eaten marginally(20%)...Unfortunately I don't do this very well, which might explain my problems. I like thinking about this as a balance challenge. I do not believe in absolutes but I could gladly add several glasses of lemon water to a meal, canceling out smaller portions of good-but-bad foods like beer or meats. So both lemon and cayenne are alkaline forming which is good for your body's ph balance. Seems a little counterintuitive but the body works in mysterious ays.

"the body will try to compensate for acidic pH by using alkaline minerals. If the diet does not contain enough minerals to compensate, a build up of acids in the cells will occur."

http://www.energiseforlife.com/list_of_alkaline_foods.php

http://home.bluegrass.net/~jclark/alkaline_foods.htm
Morphia
QUOTE(anitsirhc @ May 17 2007, 12:53 AM) *
honestly, i'm not really sure what the difference between getting a culture done and what they usually do. can you tell me? i will definitely ask when i go though.



"a laboratory test that involves the growing of bacteria or other microorganisms to aid in the diagnosis."

Essentially, they send a sample of the discharge to a lab, put a sample on a petri dish and see what grows on it. It takes a week to two weeks to get the results. They're much more specific.
anitsirhc
QUOTE(Morphia @ May 17 2007, 01:59 AM) *
"a laboratory test that involves the growing of bacteria or other microorganisms to aid in the diagnosis."

Essentially, they send a sample of the discharge to a lab, put a sample on a petri dish and see what grows on it. It takes a week to two weeks to get the results. They're much more specific.



ok thanks!
arj75
Good Morning everyone!

I'm done with my period. I used the rephresh crap (but should have used it before I started my period. Bought some AZO yeast, gonna start taking that on a daily basis. (The discharge is a stinkin!) I'm also taking the ultimate flora) but only for a few days now. I spent about 100 bucks on vitamins and mineral supplements at my health found store. I seen a women who is an idologist (spelling not even close). She claims that she can read your eyes and know what aliments that your are suffering from. And well, she was right, and I didn't give her any help trying to discover my health issues either. I"m not sure I totally believe everything she said, becasue some of it was contridicting. But diferent foods do have different affects on people with regards to their blood type. She also told me that it took her two and half years of making changes in her diet before her asthma and pre-diabetic symtoms went away. It takes a long time for your body to recover from bad eating habits in the past. (Mine being almost 32 years of bad habits). Maybe many of you already do, but start drinking water, and plenty of it. My "water supply for years has been everything but water. It helps to maintain your ph too. Also, make sure you eat breafast, whether your trying to lose weight or not. It's very hard on your pancreas and every other cell in your body that has to go to stored supplies of energy and nutrients, robbing it from where ever it can. Oh, and if your stomach is empty all that is in it is acids and not good at all on digestive tract.

I'm gonna find a specialist somewhere close to me that is not in Muncie to treat me for my bv, and well, I guess I will just have to get into my savings that I have to pay the doctor..was saving to buy a house when I get finished with school....

To all the smokers...I have the chantix, it is suppose to work wonders..I know 6 people who have been smokers for 20 years + and haven't smoked for 8 months now!

Have a good day you all!
arj75
I just wanted to make one bitch complaint about this bv, and then I'm going on a bv vacation for the rest of the day... Don't you all think that it's odd that a lot (not all)of us got this when we were prego? All I know is at my last doctor appointment, I'm laying nude on a paper sheet covering the bench..with shit dripping out of my snatch...seeping through the paper....How much time do you think busy offices take cleaning after exams??? Maybe I'm just germophobic. You should have seen the nasty case of pink eye I got when I was prego..had to throw away over two hundred dollars of make-up... Have no idea of how I got it....I wash my hands like a freak anyway.
lori
QUOTE(Aggravated @ May 16 2007, 04:45 PM) *
Sorry ladies. We had storms here last night and I lost my internet service until now. I didn't ask my doctor about the Clindamycin. I know a lot of you are worried about that...maybe someone else with an appointment soon could ask? Sorry again.


No problem, Aggravated. It was still lovely of you to offer.

So it's too bad this didn't come up until you already had your Dr. appointment. But it's come up that it's probably a good idea to ask for a bacterial culture instead of the usual wet-mount/whiff-test - so they can specifically identify exactly what is in your discharge. Perhaps next time.

As far as probiotics go, I've actually had pretty good results from Fem-dophilus (check out my blog for more info.) It's allegedly clinically proven to end up in your vagina after a week, so it's not all destroyed by bile.

I'll find the studies and add them to my blog later today.
Morphia
Here's my bv bitch for the day. It turns out I had more of an odor than I thought I did. My bf finally confessed to me last night that when I'm turned on he often gets a waft of odor. He also said that its gotten more potent since I started treating it. mad.gif So I guess I do have the smell AND the burning. Lucky fucking me. And my pelvis has REALLY been bothering me the past couple of days. I have this constant feeling of pressure and discomfort. It sucks. There. I'm done.
sassy
Morphia--That story you posted about the woman who had HPV and got tested for "mycoplasma" and "ureaplasma"...that's news to me. How come doctors never test for these since HPV is getting very common? I had an abnormal pap smear back in October but it only showed up as mild dysplasia and not technically HPV. I've sinced cleared the dysplasia. I've had BV for a LONG time (even when I was a virgin) so I know that my BV isn't connected to the dysplasia but I wonder why nobody has ever mentioned all of this? I'm getting increasingly more frustrated as I read all of the new posts by new members...everyone is suffering in their own hell and doctors aren't helping. Not only does this one infection RUIN any confidence a woman has about her sexuality and cleanliness...it could be doing damage to her reproductive organs. It amazes me that doctors don't take this infection more seriously. sad.gif
treehugger
That's the part about BV that I hate the most, the wondering if other people can smell it, and if they can, it's the wondering if they know it's emanating from your girly bits.

Unfortunately I know that others can smell it, and that they know exactly what it is. Because, I smelled it in another woman who was walking through a corridor and I was sitting in a student lounge. sad.gif But, obviously, having had experience with it too, I just felt bad for her. sad.gif Gah. It sucks.

I've been really, really lucky with the boric acid. I just use it after sex and right after my period and I'm odor free. I hope (knock on wood) that I continue to be lucky with it. I do tend to develop a bit of an odor right before my period, but I don't bother with the boric acid until after.

I hope you who are having more stubborn problems find something that works.
bvgirl
QUOTE(treehugger @ May 17 2007, 01:16 PM) *
That's the part about BV that I hate the most, the wondering if other people can smell it, and if they can, it's the wondering if they know it's emanating from your girly bits.

Unfortunately I know that others can smell it, and that they know exactly what it is. Because, I smelled it in another woman who was walking through a corridor and I was sitting in a student lounge. sad.gif But, obviously, having had experience with it too, I just felt bad for her. sad.gif Gah. It sucks.

I've been really, really lucky with the boric acid. I just use it after sex and right after my period and I'm odor free. I hope (knock on wood) that I continue to be lucky with it. I do tend to develop a bit of an odor right before my period, but I don't bother with the boric acid until after.

I hope you who are having more stubborn problems find something that works.


Hello, Treehugger

The smell of bv consumes me at all times as far as wondering if someone smells it. I am also using the boric acid( I am using the yeast arrest that contains boric acid) and it has been working for me too. But I know that it may or may not stop working for me so I am making sure that I have an arsenal of products that I can turn to that is why I really love this board and all the information everyone provides..
arj75
I said that I was gonna take a bv vacation today, but I lied. Thoughts race through my mind all day..and I can't stop it. I'm really interested in hearing womens results of the bacterias that are found in thier cultures that will be done. Some virgin girls that had reoccurring vaginosis, it was discovered that it was an infection that had spread from an upper respriratory infection from her ears that was never noticed or treated, the bacteria ended up down there somehow. Maybe a few of us could discover that it is from a simple strep throat bacteria that we never had treated. I'm really hoping that will help some of us. My son came home with strep throat 3 times this year, he is always drinking after me, and for a few days my throat would get very sore...but then go away on its on..wishful thinking I know but it couldn't hurt to check.....
Morphia
QUOTE(arj75 @ May 17 2007, 02:26 PM) *
I said that I was gonna take a bv vacation today, but I lied. Thoughts race through my mind all day..and I can't stop it. I'm really interested in hearing womens results of the bacterias that are found in thier cultures that will be done. Some virgin girls that had reoccurring vaginosis, it was discovered that it was an infection that had spread from an upper respriratory infection from her ears that was never noticed or treated, the bacteria ended up down there somehow. Maybe a few of us could discover that it is from a simple strep throat bacteria that we never had treated. I'm really hoping that will help some of us. My son came home with strep throat 3 times this year, he is always drinking after me, and for a few days my throat would get very sore...but then go away on its on..wishful thinking I know but it couldn't hurt to check.....



This is very interesting. I had chronic strep throat when I was younger. To the point that I had to have my tonsils removed. But that doesn't keep you from getting it again. You can still get it, you just don't know what it is since you don't have tonsils to get all swollen, purple and puss ridden. Its very possible this could be the case for me. I will let you know how EVERYTHING goes after tomorrow. I wanted to take a bv vacation today too but I can't. My symptoms are only getting worse, or at least changing. My discharge is a light yellow now and my burning gets worse with heat. This is going to be a WONDERFUL summer.
ilovehim
I know for sure that the smell is still there. People make it extremly apparent when they're near me. Even though it bothers me that they talk shit when i'm around them, I really don't care anymore. I KNOW that I DO take a shower every morning and may be even more clean than they are! Shit, I take a shower twice a day or more.

I got b.v. when I got pregnant. I remeber, that at the time I had yeast, Trying to rid myself of disharge, I douched daily with plain water. I think the bacteria multiplied faster with the water . Which, in turn gave me the worst case of BV anyone could ever have! My vagina smelled like SHIT or a really nasty FART! mad.gif
arj75
I know how you all are feeling, I'm more rotten smelling then a fish boat right now. I know it's proly not a good idea to wear tampons on account of that you stink..but i do.

I'm wanting to read more about body temperatures when I get time, just becasue i know your body temperatures change throughout a womens monthly cycle, and you can even tell when your fertile by monitoring your temperature. (I think it rises?) not sure. I'm just curious what effects temperature has on maintaining your body ph balance, or none at all... Does acid become more acidic when heated...or does base become more alkaline.

I'm sure as fuck its not gonna solve the chronic bv mystery but I'm curious.
arj75
Morphia, make sure that you tell your doctor to check for that bacteria common with strep...or any other bacterial infection that you have had. Like I had mentioned earlier that I had a bacterial pink eye infection...I'm gonna look and see what bacteria are common with that infection, as well as strep, and ear infections, sinus infections, respiratory infections... I was very sick as a kid..suffered from those infections often, and spent much of my childhood in the hospital. Different antibotics treat different bacterias.. Who knows.... Doctors are lazy....

I don't give a shit if they think I'm nuts...but I am the fucking customer, and I'm paying so they better do as I ask or I will just go somewhere else. Like I said it won't hurt to know. Noone knows enough about this shit anyways.

Do you think bacteria can crossbreed...?
Morphia
Nope...it only gets worse. It doesn't get better. Guess what happened to me today?! I PISSED MYSELF! Hahaha. Whatever is going on with me is affecting my entire genitourinary tract and I don't see an end to it! I've had what they call "giggle incontinence" my entire life. You make me laugh too hard and its Niagara Falls. Usually you have to make me laugh pretty damn hard for it to happen. But today, I laughed hard for about 2 seconds and the stuff just came out in one quick spurt. Luckily I had an extra pair of pants in my car. Unfortunately I had no underwear. So I went to the Tool concert (My FAVORITE band by the way. They are god.) tonight without underwear. I did some sweating "down stairs" and now my ass crack is sore! I took a shower and washed it off and its still sore! And there is also an odor there too that didn't go away with washing. So now I think I might have a yeast infection in my ass crack! (My doc and I are pretty sure I've had one before.) I also think I have a bv/yeast coinfection too because the burning only continues to worsen. Especially since I've pretty much stopped my diet and started smoking again. So now my vag burns and smells, my pelvis feels like there is a balloon in it, I'm as incontinent as a damn 80 year old and my ass crack feels like somebody sand papered it! HAHAHAHAHA! This is fucking HILARIOUS! My luck is shit. I can't wait till tomorrow when my old school doctor laughs in my face for all the questions and suggestions I'm going to have. He's probably just going to think I'm one of those internet head cases that gets paranoid from "reading too much." The second the words "Mycoplasma" and "Ureaplasma" pass my lips he'll probably start tuning me out from then on. I'm so angry right now. That Tool concert was a spiritual experience for me but I could not immerse myself completely into its glory because of that wretched sweat and BURN! I HATE THIS SHIT!

And how the holy hell am I supposed to get a colpo with these infections going on? Isn't it dangerous to do a biopsy with the shit I've got brewing down there?
lori
QUOTE(Morphia @ May 17 2007, 10:38 PM) *
I also think I have a bv/yeast coinfection too ...


Oh Morphia.

Oh Morphia.

*shaking my head*

Anyway, here are my suggestions:
  • Tell you doctor you are concerned about the possibility of PID, because you have constant pain/pressure in your lower abdomen.
  • I think this is a useful article (re: Mycoplasma genitalium) Print it out and bring it with you if you think it will help.
  • Ask for a bacterial culture.
  • If you're not ready for a colpo, the doctor will decide that.
Best of luck to you. I hope everything goes well, that you feel better, and you get closer to finding out what's wrong and how to best treat it.

I understand that you are stressed out and in pain. But wow, you have got some nerve. Apologies are in order, and I think you know that.
arj75
Morphia,
It is dangerous! Don't get the colpo. I had one when I was prego, they cut a piece of my crvix..even though they said that they weren't going to... Don't get it right now...(but that's just my opinion.
arj75
Morphia..I have the piss your pants thing too. Have since I was younger. You know what else is odd, and my friends laugh because they don't believe me...but I have to put in a new tampon whenever I pee because it gets urine on it if I don't..And it doesn't matter of how high or low I insert it. My anatomy is not correct.
arj75
I recently just started reading about yeast, I really don't know jack shit about it. But I think that we all have some rare type of yeast that is killing our good bacteria. I didn't know that just because you don't itch or have cottage cheese creeping out that you could still have a massive yeast infection in your blood. I knew antibotics caused them, but I didn't know that steroids did as well. I'm no weight lifter trying to acquire more muscle mass, I was on steriods for asthma for years. Recently my doctor put me back on them.... I will not be using them any longer.

We need some kind of combo med pack that can work together killing the bacteria and yeast at same time.
Morphia
QUOTE(lori @ May 18 2007, 03:34 AM) *
Oh Morphia.

Oh Morphia.

*shaking my head*

Anyway, here are my suggestions:
  • Tell you doctor you are concerned about the possibility of PID, because you have constant pain/pressure in your lower abdomen.
  • I think this is a useful article (re: Mycoplasma genitalium) Print it out and bring it with you if you think it will help.
  • Ask for a bacterial culture.
  • If you're not ready for a colpo, the doctor will decide that.
Best of luck to you. I hope everything goes well, that you feel better, and you get closer to finding out what's wrong and how to best treat it.

I understand that you are stressed out and in pain. But wow, you have got some nerve. Apologies are in order, and I think you know that.


I have some nerve? I'm not going to explain myself to you anymore. You just don't know when to stop being a know-it-all cunt. Is there an ignore function here?

[Edit] I found the ignore function. My doctors appointment is in an hour and a half. I'll let them know what's going on with me and hope they don't do the colpo. But at the same time I want them to get it done and over with ASAP. What if I have some kind of cancer or precancer that's causing all of this?
lori
QUOTE(Morphia @ May 18 2007, 10:34 AM) *
I have some nerve? I'm not going to explain myself to you anymore. You just don't know when to stop being a know-it-all cunt. Is there an ignore function here?

Go ahead and ignore away. But it won't change the fact that when people tried to help you, your reaction was very rude. And then those very people turned out to be right. I guess you won't be reading this message, but I think you should apologize.

And you've been told this before: if you're going to bite people's head off, don't ask for help in the first place.

QUOTE(arj75 @ May 18 2007, 06:04 AM) *
I recently just started reading about yeast, I really don't know jack shit about it. But I think that we all have some rare type of yeast that is killing our good bacteria. I didn't know that just because you don't itch or have cottage cheese creeping out that you could still have a massive yeast infection in your blood.

I once talked to a holistic remedy consultant, and she told me to spit in a cup of water, and let it sit overnight. If by the next morning there was a certain pattern in the glass, that meant I had too much yeast in my system.

Or something like that, I forget.

Anyway, she also told me all these awful things that could happen to my body because of too much yeast (not just yeast infections). And then she tried to sell me these pills that would solve the problem.

I'm not saying she's wrong, or right. I don't know jack shit about yeast either. But whenever someone tries to sell me something, that's when they kind of lose credibility with me. (Although since she was a holistic remedy consultant, I should have expected her to sell me stuff anyway ...)
Morphia
I just got back from the doctor's office. I asked for a culture and he said that he'd never done a culture. That they don't do cultures....Also when I told him about my pelvic pressure he just said "Hmm" and shrugged and then proceeded to tell me that there was no relation to the bv or the cervical dysplasia.So they did a wet prep which came back as inconclusive. But he did allude to the fact that my ph was indicative of bv (didn't say it outright for some reason). So they're running the affirm test. And hopefully I should know in about an hour. The colposcopy was terrible. It burned so bad. And when they were injecting the local anesthetic I couldn't stop shaking. I was already upset by the fact that this doctor just wasn't listening to me and then when the pain set in I just couldn't stop crying. This was by far the most terrible experience of my life. He took several biopsies, which I could still feel over the anesthetic....How do I go about finding a doctor that does cultures? How do I go about finding a doctor that's better than this incompetent piece of shit? The burning is killing me. I can feel it on the inside and on the outside. I've taken a tylenol with codeine and even that is not helping. I just want this to go away...
ilovehim
Guys, I need help!

ok my MAJOR problem with this b.v./yeast shit is that when I get my period the smell is TERRIBLE! It's the worst smell I could even think of! I am really tempted to purchase tampons because of how bad it can get. I'm talkin' not only me smelling the FUNK, but I know damn well the people around me are suffocated by it! I feel bad for my boyfriend 'cause he has to put up with it when he's with me.Although I change the pad very often, (1-2 hours never longer) the smell just doesn't subside.

I really need suggestions because i'm helpless. Should I try the tampons? My only concern is that it may things much worse, especially smell-wise. Please HELP!
neverending
Morphia:
I feel soooooo bad for you! I remember going through the same exact thing. Be prepared because finding a GOOD doctor is very hard. I went through about 10-15 different doctors and I know half thought I was crazy/hypochondriac. I kept thinking "Do these people not see/ smell this rotten shit coming out of my vagina?". I know it was there because at one time it was sooooo bad that when they stuck the spectrum in my vagina, the discharge would come running out. So, with that being said, I know I was not crazy! Doctors are so fucking lazy. They don't care about shit other than what kind of insurance you have. It's sad I had to find my own fucking cure. Knock on wood! Good luck gurl! smile.gif
neverending
Ilovehim: 2 WORDS = DIVA CUP!
anitsirhc
ok so i noticed a new pain today. usually it's cramp like feelings and also some soreness that feels like it's actually in my vagina. now today i started feeling a pinching feeling. felt like someone was sticking something pointy up there and poking me with it. i'm a little worried now. i made an appointment for monday so i'll find out something then hopefully. sad.gif

morphia that's horrible i'm sorry. maybe a warm shower would help. (i would say a bath but we all know that's a no-no.) or a heating pad to calm things down. aww i feel bad for you. maybe you can call up your doctor and ask for something to help with the pain?
Morphia
They did it to me again. I called up there at 4 for my results, and they asked that I leave a message. They never called me back. So I, once again, have to wait until MONDAY to really find out what the fuck is wrong with me. Even though I know its bv I still can't believe I have to wait so god damn long to find out. FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!

Has anyone here ever considered...suicide? I'm sorry to bring it up. But a lot of the times, I just can't imagine living like this for the rest of my life. After all that I've already dealt with...I thought it was finally over. But I was wrong. Something new just had to come along. I just look back on the days where I was healthy and I want it back so much that it tears me up inside. That was 3 or 4 years ago...I've been in hell for almost 4 years now and it just gets progressively worse. I'm just so sick of this.
Morphia
QUOTE(neverending @ May 18 2007, 05:54 PM) *
Ilovehim: 2 WORDS = DIVA CUP!



Are these better than the Mooncup? I want to try a menstrual cup but don't know which one to go with.

And I found more.

http://www.divacup.com
http://www.thekeeper.com
http://www.mooncup.co.uk
http://www.lunette.fi
http://www.softcup.com

Ha! Just realized one of those isn't even in English. I guess you can disregard the Lunette site.

I don't know...its a close one between the Diva Cup and the Soft Cup. What do you all think?
Morphia
QUOTE(lori @ May 18 2007, 12:51 PM) *
Go ahead and ignore away. But it won't change the fact that when people tried to help you, your reaction was very rude. And then those very people turned out to be right. I guess you won't be reading this message, but I think you should apologize.


My reaction was not rude. You're just an arrogant, over bearing bitch who thinks she has some kind of degree in gynecology matters. (Now THAT was rude) I owe you no apology. I am not the only one here who thinks you have been way too hard on me. Just because it wasn't posted here doesn't mean it wasn't said in private.

And apologize for WHAT anyway? Has the doctor confirmed yeast yet? No. Get over yourself. You have contributed NOTHING to this board. You're an antagonist. Plain and simple. The only thing you have done so far is condescend and berate people. You lend no support to the ones that need it. All you do is kick people when they are down. I wish you would just disappear. As far as I'm concerned your "I told you so" attitude is not welcome here. Now I really am ignoring you. Don't waste your time responding to this.

[Edit] And I also wanted to add that those people were WRONG! You kept INSISTING that the burning was due to yeast. Well, when I went into the doctor the time before this it was...drum roll...BV!!!! No yeast in sight! And no yeast on the wet prep today! You=WRONG!
lori
QUOTE(ilovehim @ May 18 2007, 03:35 PM) *
Guys, I need help!

ok my MAJOR problem with this b.v./yeast shit is that when I get my period the smell is TERRIBLE! It's the worst smell I could even think of! I am really tempted to purchase tampons because of how bad it can get. I'm talkin' not only me smelling the FUNK, but I know damn well the people around me are suffocated by it! I feel bad for my boyfriend 'cause he has to put up with it when he's with me.Although I change the pad very often, (1-2 hours never longer) the smell just doesn't subside.

I really need suggestions because i'm helpless. Should I try the tampons? My only concern is that it may things much worse, especially smell-wise. Please HELP!


Hey ilovehim.

I quickly skimmed your post history and you mentioned that you've been taking flagyl? But you're still having the really bad odor?

It's possible that your problem might be something else, not BV.

My experience with flagyl is that it works, at least while I'm taking it. It just can't prevent recurrences. (Just my experience.)

QUOTE(neverending @ May 18 2007, 03:54 PM) *
Ilovehim: 2 WORDS = DIVA CUP!

My vote is thumbs down on the Diva Cup. Putting re-useable plastic things in your vagina might not be a good idea because: ... diaphragm use has been associated with increased incidence of candidal infections, urinary tract infections, and bacterial vaginosis. I'm not sure why this is - but it might be because you're introducing bacteria into the vagina while you're putting it in and taking it out.

Of course, a Diva Cup is not exactly the same thing as a diaphragm. And remember, it's just one opinion. You should use your own judgment and do what you want.
lori
QUOTE(Morphia @ May 18 2007, 07:29 PM) *
You have contributed NOTHING to this board.

I don't think that's true.

And I think you should take responsibility for the fact that you're the who picked a fight with me, first. All I said was "No one said you didn't have BV." One sentence. A statement of fact. Then you went ballistic. Then you made an excuse, that you had a lot of health problems which gives you the right to act the way you do.

I am very sorry about all your health problems. Everyone here is. No one wants you to be sick and everyone wants you (and ourselves, and each other) to be well. But it doesn't give you the right to be an asshole.

QUOTE(Morphia @ May 18 2007, 07:29 PM) *
I wish you would just disappear.

Please use the IGNORE function. Please really use it, not just say you will but lie about it.

And also Morphia?

I think you need to see a therapist.
jewelscando
Well Morphia, I'm so sorry to hear about your pain. DAMN...it's so fricking ridiculous that we have to go through this shit. It's absolutely amazing how each of our bodies are different. YOU DON'T OWE ANYONE AN APOLOGY!!! We are not doctors!! We were just giving our thoughts. So...I'm on your side. Your doctor is an asshole. The only thing you can do about that, is keeping changing doctors until you find one who will listen. My doctor listens, thank God. He doesn't really help me as far as giving me a cure, but, he's definatley NOT condensending, and actually seems a bit sympathetic. I like the fact that when I tell him stuff from this board, he writes it down, so he can research it as well.

ALSO----ALL OF US, INCLUDING ME, REALLY NEED TO GET AWAY FROM THE BULLSHIT POSTS. WE REALLY NEED TO BE A SUPPORT GROUP GUYS. THESE RUDE, RIDICULOUS POSTS GOING BACK AND FORTH ARE NOT HELPING ANYONE!! I'M SORRY FOR THE ONES I DID, AND UNLESS THERE'S ANOTHER HOLISTIC JACKASS PERSON ON HERE, OR SOMEONE TRYING TO SELL ENZARA, I WILL REALLY TRY NOT TO GET INTO THOSE NASTY BATTLES AGAIN!! Morphia, I apologize to you, especially....

Here's my symptoms when B.V. is coming on.

1. Bubbles, right when I'm finishing going pee
2. I use Dial Soap only on my vagina. If I have B.V., when I wash, I can smell fish. If I don't have B.V., there's no smell when I wash. (If I use any other soap down there, it ALWAYS SMELLS LIKE FISH, so, using the Dial is key for me)
3. Pinching feeling going up through the Vagina.
4. Grayish color discharge, that drips out in the toilet and on underwear
5. Shit smell in Vagina.

I don't ever have the fish smell to where anyone can smell it, unless it's during Sex. Years and years ago, when I got this, I could smell it while just sitting there, but I treated it back then, and it didn't return for about 10yrs. And since then, I never have a smell to where my co workers can smell it. I feel really bad for those of you who do!!!!

Yeast Infection:

1. Burning, both on the inside and outside
2. Itching so bad that you want to take a baby bottle brush and stick it up there and go in and out, in and out, in and out!! hahaha
3. Cottage cheese like discharge
4. Smell of bread, sorda! lol

So, I can't relate to the pain you are having with the B.V., ONLY because I don't have that with my symptoms. But evidentally, from the posts here, pain with B.V. is very common!!!

Morphia...please try to stay calm. Once you get the burning under control, hopefully the doctors can give you something that will start giving you relief. There's been a couple of things on here that some of us have found that have really worked. But, you need to get the burning under control I think before you insert anything else vaginally. GOOD THOUGHTS TO MORPHIA!!! biggrin.gif
lori
QUOTE(jewelscando @ May 18 2007, 11:46 PM) *
YOU DON'T OWE ANYONE AN APOLOGY!!!

For the record, I'm not actually interested in apologies or explanations. I'm not trying to win arguments in here. That's not why I'm on this board.

But I think Morphia is definitely in a not-mentally-stable place right now. A bad trip to the gyno is "the most terrible experience of her life?" Thoughts of suicide? This is not healthy.

My opinion is that she's driving herself crazy - we all do that from time to time, but she's documenting it in this board on a daily basis. I guess one reaction is to just tip-toe around the spectacle, but I thought she could use someone to tell her to snap out of it. I don't think it helps anyone to indulge their self-pity parade.

(Like with anything, this is just my opinion.)

Maybe the right reaction is to say, "Oh you poor baby." But what is the right thing to say to someone who's convinced there is NO solution? Who thinks expecting the absolute worst is the right thing to do? I don't think her attitude is helping her, and worse, I don't think sharing this attitude is helping anyone. So saying, "oh poor you" is not my idea of giving someone support.

So Morphia probably isn't reading this post (IGNORE function - it's a good thing), but if she is - Morphia, please get help. I think you have bigger problems than BV.

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Anyway, other than that, I agree with the spirit of your post, Jewels. If your doctor is not addressing all your concerns, you should definitely look for a new one. I know not everyone has health insurance, and the luxury to switch doctors, but you should still try. (FYI - I had just written this in the 2nd entry of my blog yesterday.)
Morphia
And Lori, all I have to say to you is you can keep posting your bitchy posts about me. But remember one thing. No one is going to agree with you. The ignore function is still in effect. But since I know what a relentless, self-righteous piece of shit you are I can assume you're still being a bitch.

Ok. I'm done. I am very sorry if I have offended anyone else on this board. But she worked my nerves. I've NEVER gotten in a fight with anyone on the net before. I've also never dealt with anyone quite like HER before either. I think its time we went back to this forum's original purpose.

[Edit] I also realize that using piece of shit was probably going over board but I couldn't help myself at the time. Sorry.
pympmama1
you know you guys definitely make me smarter.... thing i never even knew existed... are discussed here like colpo... i had to google it .... thanks guys... for the enlightenment wink.gif

In addition, I agree with jewels.... WE NEED PEACE ON THIS BOARD LORI ...PLEASE STOP TRYING TO HELP MORPHIA..... I realize you are trying to help but she does not see it that way... SO STOP... I AM TIRED OF READING THE WRITTEN ABUSE... Morphia please stop the cursing and the bitching at lori.. i am tired of it. she offers helpful suggestion which is what this board is about.... u getting angry and calling her a know it all bitch... how does that make you feel better... i don't understand... we are here to bounce things off of each other..... morphia my sympathies go out to you ... u are going through hell

Lori nice blog.....
lori
QUOTE(Morphia @ May 19 2007, 12:27 AM) *
The ignore function is still in effect. But since I know what a relentless, self-righteous piece of shit you are I can assume you're still being a bitch.

What is the point of the ignore function if you're going to continue to fight with me, based on what you imagine I'm saying?

That's ... pretty twisted.

QUOTE(Morphia @ May 19 2007, 12:27 AM) *
GROW UP!

Hey, you're the one who's continuing an imaginary fight with a member that you blocked.

But you "just can't help yourself," right? How childish of you. Take responsibility, learn some self-control ... mmm, yes, that's calling GROWING UP. (Ironic.)

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For the record, I've never called Morphia any names, never insulted her except to tell her she is being overdramatic. But otherwise, I just gave her advice about:
- what i think might be her health problem (not a diagnosis, but a guess)
- that she should think positive, not assume the worst; calm-down
- crying and being "terrified" is no good
- and maybe take a break from thinking about her vagina for a few days

I think it's pretty clear that I was trying to help. She disagreed with and complained about every single suggestion, which she has every right to do - but they were well-intentioned.

Also keep in mind I'm dealing with someone who's repeated called me a "bitch," "cunt," "piece of shit" etc. I'm not interested in a fight, so I'm not going to respond in kind. But I think I have the right to defend myself, too.
Morphia
QUOTE(jewelscando @ May 19 2007, 01:46 AM) *
1. Bubbles, right when I'm finishing going pee


What exactly do you mean by "bubbles?" I know that I get bubbles in my discharge. I remember one time where I was aroused. I looked in my underwear and my juices had so many tiny bubbles in it that it looked like someone had spit in my underwear. Ew. Do you ever get those weird air bubbles that just escape from your vag for no apparent reason too? I read somewhere that its the gases being produced by the bacteria just escaping.
anitsirhc
QUOTE(jewelscando @ May 19 2007, 02:46 AM) *
3. Pinching feeling going up through the Vagina.


i don't know if you read my post which was only a few before yours but i said i just noticed a pinching feeling. like someone is poking me with something pointy. (on the inside of course) it doesn't happen always, just like today it happened 3 or 4 times within 5 minutes and then it stopped. so weird.
lori
QUOTE(pympmama1 @ May 19 2007, 12:41 AM) *
In addition, I agree with jewels.... WE NEED PEACE ON THIS BOARD LORI ...PLEASE STOP TRYING TO HELP MORPHIA.....I realize you are trying to help but she does not see it that way...

Thanks for recognizing I *was* trying to help. I think that is what this board is for.

I stopped trying a while ago, when Morphia said she wants to think negatively. We're obviously not on the same wavelength, so I gave up.

But I felt I needed to speak up about her daily hysteria - she's getting some other members in a panic. Believe me, I am *all* for caution, and urging safety. (This is why I spoke up about my qualms about the vaginal-flagyl.) But whipping people into a paranoid frenzy is not good. It helps no one.

And I will say one more thing again: suicidal thoughts = time to seek therapy. Please please.

QUOTE(pympmama1 @ May 19 2007, 12:41 AM) *
u getting angry and calling her a know it all bitch...

Actually Morphia called me a "know it all cunt." Which I think is kind of awesome and hilarious. I thought it would be funny to re-name my blog "The Know-it-all Cunt's blog."

But then I thought it would be a turn-off for people who want serious information. Oh well.

QUOTE(pympmama1 @ May 19 2007, 12:41 AM) *
Lori nice blog.....

Thanks again, pympmama!

QUOTE(sassy @ May 19 2007, 03:35 AM) *
I think everyone just needs to stay neutral.

I totally agree.
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