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lori
QUOTE(pympmama1 @ Jun 28 2007, 01:50 AM) *
If it is indeed a hormonal imbalance that may balance me out.... but something has got to give.....

FYI - some people think they can treat BV by using BCP's, but some people also think they got BV from using BCP's.

Also, were you the one who said you liked Aci-jel, but it wasn't made anymore? Anyway, I learned about a prescription product called Trimo-San that I think is similar. Just a heads-up.

http://www.milexproducts.com/products/medi...s/trimo-san.asp
arj75
I have a concern....According to my recent doctor..the BV is back, but the stinch is not..YAY. I'm rather confused, I wonder if the reason clue cells showed up for bv was because I just "haven't shed them off yet'? It is odd the I have yeast infection, without the raging itch, or burning. I'm wondering, because my dumbass didn't ask...if he did a wiff test..or just looked at the cells? I am thinking he only did a wet prep... I'm suspecting an overgrowth, A, or b or c or d or e or f or g. lol. I can't wait to go back to see this doctor! I'd like to use him as my punching bag!!!!
anitsirhc
QUOTE(arj75 @ Jun 28 2007, 07:14 AM) *
I'd like to use him as my punching bag!!!!


haha!! i like that. i feel the same exact way about the numerous stupid dumbass doctors that i've seen.
mfc10
One more product I would like to recommend: SYLK vaginal lubricant (just put the name in your search engine). Its pH is 4.7, which is pretty close to the "ideal" of 4.5. I was skeptical, since most lubricants are more like 6-7 pH, but when I tested it myself, it was right on the money at 4.7. Anyway, I use it nearly daily, because I tend to be dry down there (perimenopausal) & I think it helps keep BV, yeast, etc. at bay by helping the vaginal environment stay at a proper pH. It is also safe to use with condoms.

Just another product in my bag of tricks, along with boric acid, tea tree oil suppositories, aci-jel, Estrace (Rx) estrogen cream... wink.gif

Hang in!
Maggie C.
CanCan
QUOTE(neverending @ Jun 27 2007, 10:12 AM) *
Hun if you listen to Lori you'll never figure out what's wrong with you and you will be here another year. I had BV/HORMONAL vag! Plan and simple. I had the shit, fish, tuna, trash, ammonia, and even the popcorn smell. I had the white milky discharge. Everything that you ladies are going through, I've been there. TRUST ME! Everytime I went to the doctor that's what I was diagnosed with BV. I've read that if you let Atrophic Vag. go for soooo long, it will mimick other symptoms (like bv). I am too young to have had Atrophic vag. and I think the doctors didn't consider it because of my age but time after time I told them I never had any problems until I stopped taking the birth control. That should have clicked in there minds but it didn't so I did what I had to do and it worked.


By the way, I finally got my lab results back from the doctor, and it says that my hormones are off. My progesterone is way low, my estrogen looks normal, and my TSH (thyroid indicator) level was off as well. I have Hypothyroidism. Underactive thyroid. That's about all I know right now. Looks like I have to go in for more testing to see what kind of Hypothryoidism I have. Apparently there are differnent types.

I hope everyone has gone for hormone testing, or at least is planning on doing this. Having low progesterone, and low thyroid function explains A LOT. I know it isn't from the birth control pill though, because I've been on it. And I've known about the thyroid condition for years, was tested a decade ago, and that was when I was 30. And I know it isn't menopause - because I have had this problem for years, even when I was much younger.
jewelscando
Lori....

I was reading through the post today, and thought...wow...I can't believe they are fighting again...AND LOW AND BEHOLD...ITS FUCKING YOU AGAIN STARTING SHIT!!!

Fuck you Lori...YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO SAY SHIT ABOUT ME, OR BRING UP MY NAME. I have stayed away, like I said I would...and you're still fucking bad mouthing me.

I NEVER INSISTED ANYONE FOLLOW MY LEAD, NOR DID NEVERENDING OR PIANO GIRL. FLAGYL VAGINALLY WORKED FOR ME BITCH!!! DO YOU HAVE ANY CLUE WHAT A RELIEF THAT IS????

OF COURSE NOT...BECAUSE YOU ARE A FAKE LORI...YOU DO NOT SUFFER FROM B.V. IF YOU DID...AND YOU HAD TRUE B.V....YOU WOULD BE RIGHT THERE WITH US STICKING EVERYTHING FROM A TO Z UP YOUR SNATCH TRYING TO GET RID OF THE SHIT. YOU OBVIOUSLY DON'T HAVE A SEX LIFE, THEREFORE YOU COULD CARE LESS WHAT YOUR SNATCH SMELLS LIKE...

Lori won't go away guys...she's probably being paid by someone...or she's a wanta be doctor looking for patients...and this is the only way she can get them.


THIS IS WHY I'M NO LONGER HERE...IT WENT FROM "BACTERIAL VAGINOSIS -- OR -- EMBARRASSING BAD SMELL....TO "LORI'S BLOG...JUST CLICK UNDER HER SIGNATURE"....
lori
QUOTE(jewelscando @ Jun 28 2007, 06:01 PM) *
I was reading through the post today, and thought...wow...I can't believe they are fighting again...AND LOW AND BEHOLD...ITS FUCKING YOU AGAIN STARTING SHIT!!!

Looks like you're the one who's starting shit again.

And it wasn't me starting shit in the first place. Did I cuss anyone out? No. Did I call anyone names? No. Just expressing my views. THESE ARE THE FACTS. It's not my fault that some people can't handle criticism without screaming their heads off "go to fucking hell you fucking bitch fuckity-fuck-fuck!"

I can't be responsible for other people's immaturity and lack of intelligence.

QUOTE(jewelscando @ Jun 28 2007, 06:01 PM) *
IF YOU DID...AND YOU HAD TRUE B.V....YOU WOULD BE RIGHT THERE WITH US STICKING EVERYTHING FROM A TO Z UP YOUR SNATCH TRYING TO GET RID OF THE SHIT.

No, that's very unsafe. I care about my body.

QUOTE(jewelscando @ Jun 28 2007, 06:01 PM) *
YOU OBVIOUSLY DON'T HAVE A SEX LIFE, THEREFORE YOU COULD CARE LESS WHAT YOUR SNATCH SMELLS LIKE...

Oh, so should I brag about how big my boyfriend's cock is? You know, like you do?

I don't know how that's going to help anyone ...

Anyway, I've been saying all along that the I'm more focused on overall health - especially the bad health consequences of BV. I want everyone to be aware that it's not just about the smell. (And if you're healthy, the smell will go away too!) I'm about finding ways to treat the condition, not just deodorizing your vagina.
jewelscando
Lori...I didn't start anything..you are the one who brought MY NAME into an argument you were having with NeverEnding...Why DO YOU NEED TO BRING ME UP?? What the hell?

And...WHAT IS A COCK??? Does ANYONE REALLY USE THAT WORD ANYMORE?? AND WHO WAS BRAGGING??? NOT ME....It HAD EVERYTHING TO DO WITH MY B.V.!!! The SIZE DID MATTER IN MY CASE.. because it was causing me to become raw...hence...bacteria...hence B.V. You know for someone who claims to be so smart...you're a dumb ass..

EVERYONE...THIS PERSON LORI...IS THAT SAME BITCH THAT WAS ON HERE A YEAR AGO...SASSY..NEVERENDING...WHAT WAS THAT LADIES NAME???? SERIOUSLY..THINK ABOUT IT.....SHE'S JUST AS CONDENSCENDING AS THAT BITCH WAS, MINUS THE HOLISTIC BULL SHIT....I WOULD BET ALOT OF MONEY ON IT!!!!!!!

I DON'T POST HERE ANYMORE LORI...I ONLY READ AND PM PEOPLE. KEEP MY NAME OFF YOUR MOUTH...I'M ASKING YOU NICELY...
lori
QUOTE(jewelscando @ Jun 28 2007, 06:40 PM) *
EVERYONE...THIS PERSON LORI...IS THAT SAME BITCH THAT WAS ON HERE A YEAR AGO...SASSY..NEVERENDING...WHAT WAS THAT LADIES NAME???? SERIOUSLY..THINK ABOUT IT.....SHE'S JUST AS CONDENSCENDING AS THAT BITCH WAS, MINUS THE HOLISTIC BULL SHIT....I WOULD BET ALOT OF MONEY ON IT!!!!!!!

I think you're talking about "chachaheels."

I think that person still posts around here, just not in this thread. Anyway, that is not me. In fact, she advised some members to STOP taking their prescription meds, which I would never do.

(What I have said is that people should not buy meds online without a prescription. Very different thing.)

QUOTE(jewelscando @ Jun 28 2007, 06:40 PM) *
KEEP MY NAME OFF YOUR MOUTH...I'M ASKING YOU NICELY...

You're not asking me nicely.

Anyway, I didn't bring your name up first. So blame them, not me.
pympmama1
QUOTE(jewelscando @ Jun 28 2007, 09:01 PM) *
Lori....

I was reading through the post today, and thought...wow...I can't believe they are fighting again...AND LOW AND BEHOLD...ITS FUCKING YOU AGAIN STARTING SHIT!!!

Fuck you Lori...YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO SAY SHIT ABOUT ME, OR BRING UP MY NAME. I have stayed away, like I said I would...and you're still fucking bad mouthing me.

I NEVER INSISTED ANYONE FOLLOW MY LEAD, NOR DID NEVERENDING OR PIANO GIRL. FLAGYL VAGINALLY WORKED FOR ME BITCH!!! DO YOU HAVE ANY CLUE WHAT A RELIEF THAT IS????

OF COURSE NOT...BECAUSE YOU ARE A FAKE LORI...YOU DO NOT SUFFER FROM B.V. IF YOU DID...AND YOU HAD TRUE B.V....YOU WOULD BE RIGHT THERE WITH US STICKING EVERYTHING FROM A TO Z UP YOUR SNATCH TRYING TO GET RID OF THE SHIT. YOU OBVIOUSLY DON'T HAVE A SEX LIFE, THEREFORE YOU COULD CARE LESS WHAT YOUR SNATCH SMELLS LIKE...

Lori won't go away guys...she's probably being paid by someone...or she's a wanta be doctor looking for patients...and this is the only way she can get them.


THIS IS WHY I'M NO LONGER HERE...IT WENT FROM "BACTERIAL VAGINOSIS -- OR -- EMBARRASSING BAD SMELL....TO "LORI'S BLOG...JUST CLICK UNDER HER SIGNATURE"....

Jewels Don't leave u have been here longer than me.... and u r needed here tongue.gif
jewelscando
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Oh no, I meant to insult just you and Jewels.
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Let me guess...you didn't say that? I haven't posted on here for awhile. Why do you need to insult me?? Because I found something that worked for me?? So, I'm wrong?? I'm using the Flagyl under a doctors knowledge, who told me it was ok, and I'm wrong? What is wrong with you Lori?? ABSOLUTELY AMAZING THAT YOU WOULD KNOW THAT LADIES NAME WHEN..........................YOU WEREN'T HERE WHEN IT HAPPENED....BUT LET ME GUESS....YOU'VE READ EVERY PAGE SINCE THE END OF TIME...CAUSE YOU HAVE NO LIFE??? OR....IS B.V. YOUR LIFE?? ARE YOU A DOCTOR?? ARE YOU DOING A STUDY?? WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND HAS THE TIME TO READ BACK FROM WELL OVER A YEAR AGO?? Hmmm..

Anyways....I really don't care about all of this...I care about my friends that I have made on here...and since you have come to the board Lori...you have upset not only me, but just about everyone on here....

FOR THE RECORD.....THERE IS NO CURE FOR RE-OCCURING B.V. There is medication that you can take....BUT IT IS NOT A CURE FOR RE-OCCURING.....Get your shit straight...if it was a cure...WE WOULDN'T BE HERE TODAY!!! SOMETHING THAT CURES SOMETHING...DOESN'T KEEP RE-OCCURING. If I have Strep throat...and I take Penicillin...it cures it...it's gone...it doesn't keep coming back, month after month after month...that my dear is a cure...If your one of the lucky woman in the world who get's it one time..and the meds work...YES THAT'S A CURE....BUT THAT IS DIFFERENT THEN WHAT MOST OF US ON HERE HAVE WHICH IS RE-OCCURING!!!!

FROM WEB MD:

Bacterial Vaginosis - Topic Overview
Bacterial vaginosis causes specific symptoms that can be different from two other common types of vaginal infections, vaginal yeast infection and trichomoniasis. It is possible to have more than one type of vaginal infection at the same time. For more information on the other types, see the topics Vaginal Yeast Infections and Trichomoniasis

What is bacterial vaginosis?
Bacterial vaginosis is a change in the balance of bacteria that are normally present in the vagina, which can cause bothersome symptoms. It is the most common cause of vaginal symptoms in women of childbearing age.

Bacterial vaginosis is sometimes linked to hormonal changes; it is more common after menstruation. Nearly 1 in 4 pregnant women are diagnosed with bacterial vaginosis....THERE YOU GO NEVER ENDING!!!

From this website: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacterial_vaginosis

In a randomized controlled trial,[9] researchers found the efficacy of 0.75% metronidazole vaginal gel in treating bacterial vaginosis (cure rate 70.7%) was equivalent to that of standard oral metronidazole treatment (cure rate 71%). Treatment with vaginal metronidazole gel was associated with fewer gastrointestinal complaints

http://www.herpes-coldsores.com/std/bacterial_vaginosis.htm

Bacterial Vaginosis (BV) can be difficult to cure using either conventional or alternative treatments

YOUR NOT THE ONLY PERSON WHO DOES RESEARCH LORI. WE ARE ALL HERE TO HELP EACH OTHER. WHY CAN'T YOU JUST PM PEOPLE IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY???? NOBODY DIED AND MADE YOU QUEEN MOTHER BOARD..NOBODY HAS ASKED YOU TO PROTECT THEM FROM MAKING A WRONG MOVE, OR PROTECT THEM FROM STICKING SOMETHING UP THERE VAGINAS. THIS IS A MESSAGE BOARD...HERE TO GIVE EACH OTHER SUPPORT...NOT TO HAVE TO BE TORN DOWN BY YOU EVERYTIME SOMEONE SAYS SOMETHING. DO YOU NOT THINK ANY OF US ARE SMART ENOUGH IN HERE TO DO SOME RESEARCH BEFORE WE TRY SOMETHING???????

THIS WILL BE THE LAST TIME I REPLY TO YOU LORI, REGARDLESS OF YOUR NEXT COMEBACK...BUT...AS WE ALL KNOW...MS. LORI HAS TO HAVE THE LAST WORD....EITHER WAY...YOU MEAN NOTHING TO ME, JUST AS I MEAN NOTHING TO YOU....EVENTUALLY...YOU WILL GO AWAY...BECAUSE THE LADIES ON HERE WILL ALL GET SMART AND BLOCK YOU.... LIKE I AN RIGHT NOW...



lori
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jewelscando
Hey everyone, if you go under Lori's name, click on her profile, you can selet to ignore her...it WORKS!! I can't see any of her posts which is fine with me....So...for those who are tired of her....hit ignore...and we can get back to being a support group, rather then a bitch fest... tongue.gif
lori
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anitsirhc
QUOTE(jewelscando @ Jun 29 2007, 05:37 AM) *
Hey everyone, if you go under Lori's name, click on her profile, you can selet to ignore her...it WORKS!! I can't see any of her posts which is fine with me....So...for those who are tired of her....hit ignore...and we can get back to being a support group, rather then a bitch fest... tongue.gif


did it 2 days ago smile.gif
lori
QUOTE(anitsirhc @ Jun 29 2007, 07:41 AM) *
did it 2 days ago smile.gif

Yeah, you say you did it, but you *still* read what I write and harass me anyway. So, what's the point?

AFTER you said you blocked me, you attacked me AGAIN. *I* ignored you for peace's sake. But you insist on keeping this fight going. Why? Maybe instead of announcing that you're ignoring me, and then NOT ignoring me ... why not just ... ignore me?

And for the record, this group was full of bitching and fighting long before I started posting. Jewels has been abusing newbies and harassing other posters since day one of this thread. (How do I know that? Because I read this entire thread. Why? Because that's what Jewels tells newbies to do when she beats up on them, so they don't ask the same questions over again. I'm just following her "advice.")

Jewels is just pissed off because there is someone who won't kiss her ass or run away after she bullies them. Whatever, that's her deal. I'm not here to have battle royales about ego all day. But if you keep baiting me, Christina ... well, you can't expect me to just sit and take your shit.

You're the one who started this whole fight, Christina. I guess it makes sense that you would keep on stirring the shit.
neverending
QUOTE(anitsirhc @ Jun 29 2007, 03:41 PM) *
did it 2 days ago smile.gif


Did it today but it does not work. So, I'll just skip over her posts like I usually do. laugh.gif
lori
QUOTE(neverending @ Jun 29 2007, 11:35 AM) *
Did it today but it does not work.

Yes, it does.

You must be retarded.
arj75
Hey everyone,
I'm out of town and on a horrible computer. I told you all that I got a book about hormones...one I also just got, while it has a dumbass title..it has some great information in it. The first step the treatment of any health issue is education. Of course we already know that. It's why some of us are here. The books called " It's my ovaries stupid! (i said dumb title) lol. By Elizabeth Lee Vliet MD

It has a lot of helpful information. How to test for problems,what causes them, how to prevent..blah blah blah

Neverending, it has a good chapter about one of your conditions too. PCOS...

It will at least help to have some facts to slap back to Dr. Quack at least!

Have a good weekend you all, I will try to get the side effects of all those wonderful antibotics posted soon, but I don't have time right now!
anitsirhc
QUOTE(neverending @ Jun 29 2007, 02:35 PM) *
Did it today but it does not work. So, I'll just skip over her posts like I usually do. laugh.gif


you have to be logged in for it to work. if you just go to the board and you're not logged in it will still show hers.
anitsirhc
so i went to the doctor today, switched back to ortho tri-cyclen lo. wanna know what happened?? when i went to planned parenthood to pick up my new prescription for bc they put ortho tri-cyclen and forgot to put the "lo" so when i brought it to the pharmacy they just filled it with the "generic" brand of ortho tri-cyclen which is trinessa which is HORRIBLE! if you ever get TriNessa instead of ortho tri-cyclen... do not take it. tell them you want the brand name, not the generic. it was so bad. if you search TriNessa online you'll find numerous pages of women complaining about really bad side effects. so yeah, i was pissed that the doctor gave me the wrong bc and that the pharmacy decided to give me the generic brand without asking.

ANYWAY.... i had them check me for bv. and it came back NEGATIVE!! i'm a little skeptical though.. cause i'm spotting a little bit, so she said the results might not be accurate, but wouldn't blood make it seem more like i have bv not like i don't have it even if i do? and also, i put a yeast arrest in tuesday night so could that change anything? i don't feel like i have bv right now. i'm not smelling and i'm just spotting, no discharge. who the hell knows. i feel good right now so that's good right? ok enough blabbering, time for food. hope you all have a good friday!!! laugh.gif
britt8705
Hey Everyone... I have been having trouble keeping up with this forum...but if someone could fill me in or send me a link to a page that has all the updated info about what is good to use that would be a big help... Thanks oh yea is Estroil still a good product to use if so where can I purchase it.
pympmama1
HEY Neverending

You have PCOS... I was check for that due to periodic abdomminal pain that feels like a midget is sitting on my lower stomach.... I have hemorraghic cysct and I have been trying to find some correlation to cyst down there and BV.....
Neverending how log have you had PCOS
Italianwife88
I need some help from someone(anitsirhc or otherwise). I was put on 600 mg boric acid about a month ago. It looks to be almost the same thing as yeast arrest, without the other two things in it. My doctor has me taking it every OTHER night for two months. instead of what yeast arrest says which is like 2 times a day for 3-7 days or 10-14 days for resistance cases. It seems to be keeping my b.v. at bay but not kicking it out of there. my discharge is white but not clumpy, and it has a hint of bv smell. do you think i should do the acid every night? I've also had a few times that i missed a night and continued the next night. could inconsistency be doing this? I'm really new to all treatments. does everyone here have BV from being pregnant?( I know 1 in 4 get bv from pregnancy) I've never been pregnant I just started having problems after having sex only one time. sad.gif

I also wanted to know, if you start your period when taking the suppository do you wear a pad or wear a tampon anyways?
anitsirhc
QUOTE(Italianwife88 @ Jun 30 2007, 04:15 AM) *
I need some help from someone(anitsirhc or otherwise). I was put on 600 mg boric acid about a month ago. It looks to be almost the same thing as yeast arrest, without the other two things in it. My doctor has me taking it every OTHER night for two months. instead of what yeast arrest says which is like 2 times a day for 3-7 days or 10-14 days for resistance cases. It seems to be keeping my b.v. at bay but not kicking it out of there. my discharge is white but not clumpy, and it has a hint of bv smell. do you think i should do the acid every night? I've also had a few times that i missed a night and continued the next night. could inconsistency be doing this? I'm really new to all treatments. does everyone here have BV from being pregnant?( I know 1 in 4 get bv from pregnancy) I've never been pregnant I just started having problems after having sex only one time. sad.gif

I also wanted to know, if you start your period when taking the suppository do you wear a pad or wear a tampon anyways?


i'm not sure. the yeast arrest is 600 mg of boric acid also, but i only took it for a month. so maybe you're taking it less often but over a longer period of time? i would call your doctor and tell him/her that you don't feel like it's completely going away. also, inconsistency can definitely affect your results. and no not everyone has bv from being pregnant. i have never been pregnant and i'm sure a lot of other women on here haven't been pregnant either. sorry i didn't really help. good luck!!!

by the way, the last yeast arrest i put in was tuesday night and today i'm still bv free smile.gif
neverending
QUOTE(pympmama1 @ Jun 30 2007, 05:01 AM) *
HEY Neverending

You have PCOS... I was check for that due to periodic abdomminal pain that feels like a midget is sitting on my lower stomach.... I have hemorraghic cysct and I have been trying to find some correlation to cyst down there and BV.....
Neverending how log have you had PCOS


I have a very mild case(hair growth, little overweight, very little acne) of pcos now. I believe I've had it for many years now but there is no way of knowing when it really started. In Jan/2007 I had a cyst rupture. Talk about PAINFUL! I blame birth control for this because before that, I've never had any problems whatsoever. As soon as I stopped popping the pill BAM severe weight gain, severe discharge, severe acne, and moderate hair growth. After I used the Estroil I noticed that my weight decreased, my acne started clearing up, less hair growth and no discharge.Go figure! I'm still confused as to why the estroil helped? I just started Acupunture yesturday and I heard if you have a mild case you have a better chance of getting rid of pcos. Oh, and yes I also believe all this stuff correlates with each other. Many of us on the board have the same symptoms (IBS, PCOS, DISCHARGE, DEPRESSION,ANXIETY,PID,ETC). If you find any good articles send them my way.
Italianwife88
Thanks. if i put one in and used a tampon would the tampon just absorb all the medicine? seems like alot of it just comes out anyways.
anitsirhc
QUOTE(Italianwife88 @ Jun 30 2007, 12:28 PM) *
Thanks. if i put one in and used a tampon would the tampon just absorb all the medicine? seems like a lot of it just comes out anyways.


sorry i forgot to answer that. i only used a tampon while on yeast arrest once or twice and it was when i had to because i was going to the beach. so if i were you i would just try to not use them, again call your doctor and ask cause i never asked anyone (like i never called the company or anything.) also, the white discharge you have is most likely the boric acid coming out. is it watery? then it's the boric acid...
cynmcclelland
Hi all! i am a *newbie* here with a question, and let me warn you it may be the dumbest question you have ever heard!! part of that is because i go to the gyno as little as humanly possible (i know its not good but i hate it!) okay now...

**i have never had any problems with *smell* until i started having sex with my husband, now all of a sudden i have this horrible fishy smell and itch, and very very rarely i get dishcharge (not often but it happens). i was reading through the threa and i saw a lot of women had success with boric acid, but part of me (i will admit, the smarter part of me) says to go see my gyno to make sure nothing serious is going on. ANYWAYS here is the dumb part....before you were diagnosed with BV and all you had was the symptom of the *smell* when you called to make your gyno appt and they asked for the reason of the appt...what did you say? i mean i dont really want to say to some stranger on the phone well i smell like fish *lol* ..........
jewelscando
QUOTE(cynmcclelland @ Jun 30 2007, 10:45 PM) *
Hi all! i am a *newbie* here with a question, and let me warn you it may be the dumbest question you have ever heard!! part of that is because i go to the gyno as little as humanly possible (i know its not good but i hate it!) okay now...

**i have never had any problems with *smell* until i started having sex with my husband, now all of a sudden i have this horrible fishy smell and itch, and very very rarely i get dishcharge (not often but it happens). i was reading through the threa and i saw a lot of women had success with boric acid, but part of me (i will admit, the smarter part of me) says to go see my gyno to make sure nothing serious is going on. ANYWAYS here is the dumb part....before you were diagnosed with BV and all you had was the symptom of the *smell* when you called to make your gyno appt and they asked for the reason of the appt...what did you say? i mean i dont really want to say to some stranger on the phone well i smell like fish *lol* ..........


WELCOME ABOARD CYNMCCLELLAND!!

DEFINATELY GO TO THE DOCTOR!!! When you call, just state that you need to make an appt for a pap smear. You dont have to tell a stranger about your smell...Definately go first though, because the first time I had this YEARS AND YEARS AGO... The medicine they gave me, Flagyl vaginal gel took mine away for about 5yrs!! So...if you can catch this soon enough...you may get lucky and it might not become re-occuring!!

As far as the Boric Acid goes, alot of woman have had great success with it!! HOWEVER...you need to see your doctor first to determine if what you have is truly Bacterial Vaginosis...Not treating this infection properly can cause serious health issues...so, find out first if this is what you have. Once you've taken the prescription, and GOD FORBID you have re-occuring B.V.. then it will be time to start thinking of other alternatives. If you check out Lori's blog, under her signature...she offers TONS of ideas, and gives you examples of what the ladies have used, side effects, etc.

GOOD LUCK AND LET US KNOW HOW EVERYTHING GOES!!!
cynmcclelland
Thanks!

i have one more question...and *caution* this might be *TMI*

does your partners *size* have anything to do with vaginal infections.... like i said i never had a problem until my husband...and he is much larger then the men ive been with in the past...and if that does cause a problem is there truly anything you can do about it?.
jewelscando
QUOTE(cynmcclelland @ Jul 1 2007, 12:00 AM) *
Thanks!

i have one more question...and *caution* this might be *TMI*

does your partners *size* have anything to do with vaginal infections.... like i said i never had a problem until my husband...and he is much larger then the men ive been with in the past...and if that does cause a problem is there truly anything you can do about it?.


THANKS FOR ASKING!!! YES!!! For some I should say!! But I can only speak about myself. Mine was definatley due to size. My B.V. started when I started dating my ex boyfriend, who is LARGE.. I personally feel, it had to do with the number of times we would have sex....which caused me to become RAW...which opened myself up for bacteria to get in....So, yes, definatley.. What can you do about???? hahahahahah...well, I would suggest using lubrication maybe, so that you don't get raw...and use some preventative. I'm not real good on the preventative stuff that the girls take, Probotics and such, so...GIRLS...CAN YOU GIVE HER SOME ADVICE??!!
anitsirhc
QUOTE(cynmcclelland @ Jun 30 2007, 06:45 PM) *
Hi all! i am a *newbie* here with a question, and let me warn you it may be the dumbest question you have ever heard!! part of that is because i go to the gyno as little as humanly possible (i know its not good but i hate it!) okay now...

**i have never had any problems with *smell* until i started having sex with my husband, now all of a sudden i have this horrible fishy smell and itch, and very very rarely i get dishcharge (not often but it happens). i was reading through the threa and i saw a lot of women had success with boric acid, but part of me (i will admit, the smarter part of me) says to go see my gyno to make sure nothing serious is going on. ANYWAYS here is the dumb part....before you were diagnosed with BV and all you had was the symptom of the *smell* when you called to make your gyno appt and they asked for the reason of the appt...what did you say? i mean i dont really want to say to some stranger on the phone well i smell like fish *lol* ..........


whenever i go to get checked for bv i tell them that i want to get tested for an infection. and they ask me if i have any symptoms of one.

jewels is a pap smear the same thing they do when they check you for bv? i always thought it was different... or do they find it on a pap smear too? because originally i thought it was on a pap smear and then the doctor told me it wasn't. i don't know i'm confused now!
jewelscando
QUOTE(anitsirhc @ Jul 1 2007, 03:02 AM) *
whenever i go to get checked for bv i tell them that i want to get tested for an infection. and they ask me if i have any symptoms of one.

jewels is a pap smear the same thing they do when they check you for bv? i always thought it was different... or do they find it on a pap smear too? because originally i thought it was on a pap smear and then the doctor told me it wasn't. i don't know i'm confused now!


Well, I was just giving her something to say when she called. She could just say, she thinks she has an infection, but is not sure, but then they might ask her symptoms. I think she was trying to avoid saying she had a "Fishy Smell" to a stranger over the phone.

Here's how Doctors diagnosis B.V.

Diagnosis. A healthcare worker can examine a sample of vaginal fluid under a microscope, either stained or in special lighting, to detect the presence of the organisms associated with Bacterial Vaginosis. They can make a diagnosis based on the absence of lactobacilli, the presence of numerous "clue cells" (cells from the vaginal lining that are coated with Bacterial Vaginosis organisms), a fishy odor, and decreased acidity or change in pH of vaginal fluid.

For some of you newbies...here's a website that may be helpfull. Just to pre-warn...when trying something for your infection...stick to one thing at a time...don't spend days and days, sticking crap up your kitty.. Everyone is different, so what works for you, may not work for me and vice/versa. But whatever you try, give it a chance, before trying something else. Otherwise..you will not know exactly what it was that helped you.

http://bacterialvaginosisrecurrent.com/fiv..._that_work.html
neverending
INTERESTING MESSAGE BOARD FOR THOSE WHO ARE AND HAVE BEEN ON BIRTH CONTROL:
http://www.healthboards.com/boards/archive...p/t-116174.html
arj75
Hey everyone,

so we all know that recurrent bv could be caused by screwed up hormones...CANCAN recently found out that she had hypothriodism. I'm very sorry about that too! But I'm sure that you are, CANCAN already aware that hypothyriodism effects your sex hormones too! So hopefully, things will get balanced out for you soon. Did they tell you yet as to how long it will take for the medications to kick in? Can you take these meds while pregnant?

Get this shit, Although, I have asked two doctors if there is such a thing as prehyperthyriodism..they all chuckled..oh no no. Well guess the fuck what..yes it does exist, but a different type of test (looking for a certain anitbody) has to be done. I have an appointment with an endo specialist in two weeks. This condition also fucks up sex hormones too. I'm really not hoping to have this..but I guess if it's still in the pre..then it hasnt done much damage yet.

That book that I told you all I got explains these conditions in it too. It was espensive though, but maybe your public library has it. I'm just scared some girls are gonna get the birthcontrol meds and make matters worse! I'm hoping you guys will read this, it is very helpful.

Just because women have came in here crying "I've seen every kind of doctor possible, and still not having luck..let's face it...theres one good man out of a million...theres one good doctor out of a trillion, it's not bv that is our hardest obstacle..it's finding a doctor who has brain and keeps up on research, and cares about their patients (if ours is hormonal..in a sick short of way...we might be the lucky ones....

On the back of the book..one woman's said this: "Everywomen in America should read this book. After bouching from doctor to doctor for well over a year with symptoms of anxiety, insomnia, and heart palpitations, Dr Vliet correctly diagnosed my hormonal problems. She gave me my life back!

Well, thats me..I'm sitting here wide awake after taking 2 xanax, and a lunesta, tylenol pm (2) What the fuck else could it be other than my hormones....???

I will be adding some tid bits from this book when i get some time...I want to make sure doctors arent feeding you all shit, like they keep trying to feed me all the damn time!

alecscudder
Hi all - newbie here.

I've just introduced myself on the newbie thread, but i'm just popping up to say hi. smile.gif

Thanks for all the info here re BV on possible ways to manage if not cure the problem.

Hopefully i'll be able to contribute my experiences to the thread and together we'll find a solution.

Thanks again.

Alec.
arj75
Sorry if this has already been said.

Cigarette Smoking:
Reduction in the ovaries ability to make estradiol

Increased metabolic breakdown of estradiol by liver enzymes that are induced (made overactive from smoking)

been known to cause early menopause

diminished serotonin production

decreased blood flow and nutrients to cells

reduces red blood cells oxygen carrying capacity

decreases absorbtion of vitamins (especially group b vitamins)

nicotine increases anxiety and irritability

(while sleeping) when body is withdrawling..leads to more frequeny awakenings and loss of stage 4 sleep that is crucial for muscle repair, growth horomone secretion, and keeping the brain healthy, among other restorative functions
arj75
Alcohol

Women have less enzymes that breaks down alcohol, so its really hard on our bodies (even social drinking)

alcohol disrupts the normal menstrual cycle and causes problems with ovulation

lowers production of estradiol and testosterone (early menopause)

impairs brains GnRH pulse generator that triggers proper release of FSH and LH

menus cycle length shows greater variability

have cycles ..but don't ovulate

heavier menstrual flow and more painful

drinkers suffer more from PMS


arj75
Marijuana

disrupts brain centers that regulate hormone production

Luteinizing hormone is suppressed (doesnt rise during ovulation

has two chemicaLs in it that compete with estradiol for binding at the estrogen receptor

elevates prolactin

increases anxiety

heart palpitations

disrupts normal immune function

arj75
Constant stress suppresses ovarian cycles and decreases estradiol, testosterone, progesterone and DHEA production.

A stress-induced decrease in estradiol then contributes to an imbalance in norepinephrine, serotonin, dopamine, acetylcholine, and other brain body messengers that regulate pain pathways, sleep, muscle repair, appetite, metabolism, memory, mood, energy, sex drive, and other functions.

Prolonged stress of any kind (illness, emotional) disrupts the body's balance, or homeostasis, and causes symtoms related to the constant overactivity of the fight or flight stress response pathways- headaches, muscle spasms, fatigue, fuzzy thinking, high blood pressure, IBS, colitis, angina,eczema,frequent infections, irregular periods, acne, weight gain,allergies, hives, herpes, outbreaks, anxious/panicky feelings, insomnia, depression, angry/irritable moods, heart disease, and cancer.

prolonged stress can lead to suppression of the ovaries.

Viruses, bacteria, and carcinogens alone do not cause illness in every exposed individual.

This is where my "out there" yeast theory stills fits in. Stress dumps lactic acid..which breeds yeast. I believe it is cause of disease because why? It's mainly christian scientists begging for this to be recognized.
Researchers are afraid they might be right.

neverending
QUOTE(arj75 @ Jul 3 2007, 02:05 PM) *
Constant stress suppresses ovarian cycles and decreases estradiol, testosterone, progesterone and DHEA production.

A stress-induced decrease in estradiol then contributes to an imbalance in norepinephrine, serotonin, dopamine, acetylcholine, and other brain body messengers that regulate pain pathways, sleep, muscle repair, appetite, metabolism, memory, mood, energy, sex drive, and other functions.

Prolonged stress of any kind (illness, emotional) disrupts the body's balance, or homeostasis, and causes symtoms related to the constant overactivity of the fight or flight stress response pathways- headaches, muscle spasms, fatigue, fuzzy thinking, high blood pressure, IBS, colitis, angina,eczema,frequent infections, irregular periods, acne, weight gain,allergies, hives, herpes, outbreaks, anxious/panicky feelings, insomnia, depression, angry/irritable moods, heart disease, and cancer.

prolonged stress can lead to suppression of the ovaries.

Viruses, bacteria, and carcinogens alone do not cause illness in every exposed individual.

This is where my "out there" yeast theory stills fits in. Stress dumps lactic acid..which breeds yeast. I believe it is cause of disease because why? It's mainly christian scientists begging for this to be recognized.
Researchers are afraid they might be right.


Of course they are afraid! The medical profession makes millions off of us. Since you are reading this, you might want to read about Hulda Clark and Dr. Royal Rife. Hulda Clark is classified as a quack but her theories are becoming reality. Dr. Royal Rife found the cure for cancer and other things as well.
Morphia
I just saw a new doctor today and she said that I probably have something called Desquamative Inflammatory Vaginitis (DIV). She took cultures just to make sure that there is nothing more specific going on. I'll find out about the results in a week or more. If it is DIV she intends to treat it with.....CLINDAMYCIN cream and estrogen cream for a couple of WEEKS. Yes, I'm scared. But I'm going to do it anyway. Its simply due to the fact that this doctor told me something I'd never heard of that I have confidence in her. I'm sure if I told my other doctors about this they wouldn't know what the hell I was talking about. Here is a google search:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&saf...amp;btnG=Search
arj75
QUOTE(Morphia @ Jul 3 2007, 06:26 PM) *
I just saw a new doctor today and she said that I probably have something called Desquamative Inflammatory Vaginitis (DIV). She took cultures just to make sure that there is nothing more specific going on. I'll find out about the results in a week or more. If it is DIV she intends to treat it with.....CLINDAMYCIN cream and estrogen cream for a couple of WEEKS. Yes, I'm scared. But I'm going to do it anyway. Its simply due to the fact that this doctor told me something I'd never heard of that I have confidence in her. I'm sure if I told my other doctors about this they wouldn't know what the hell I was talking about. Here is a google search:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&saf...amp;btnG=Search


I hope that is your cure Morphia!

Thanks Neverending for that link..never heard of him...no surprise as to why. I believe it.

Happy fourth of July to all! Be safe! And may the smell of sulfur(or whatever that firework smell is lol) overpower our stinch!
CanCan
QUOTE(arj75 @ Jul 2 2007, 12:46 AM) *
so we all know that recurrent bv could be caused by screwed up hormones...CANCAN recently found out that she had hypothriodism. I'm very sorry about that too! But I'm sure that you are, CANCAN already aware that hypothyriodism effects your sex hormones too! So hopefully, things will get balanced out for you soon. Did they tell you yet as to how long it will take for the medications to kick in? Can you take these meds while pregnant?


If I get pregnant, the doctor told me that I will have to take progesterone needles for the duration of the pregnancy, to keep levels elevated high enough. And for the thyroid, she told me that she only wants to give me medication for that once I get pregnant. But she also told me that she didn't understand my levels, and that she wants to test me for my thyroid again, just to double check.

But now that she did these preliminary tests on me, I am thinking that I should go to a specialist. A reproductive endocrinologist to find out more.
CanCan
QUOTE(arj75 @ Jul 2 2007, 12:46 AM) *
so we all know that recurrent bv could be caused by screwed up hormones...CANCAN recently found out that she had hypothriodism. I'm very sorry about that too! But I'm sure that you are, CANCAN already aware that hypothyriodism effects your sex hormones too! So hopefully, things will get balanced out for you soon. Did they tell you yet as to how long it will take for the medications to kick in? Can you take these meds while pregnant?


Thanks arj75 for all the info. I don't smoke, don't drink, don't eat bad food. My main flaw is that I stress out easily. So my conclusion is that this problem is caused by stress. It is at least exacerbated by stress. I know this, because everytime I feel stressed the BV comes back, or gets worse. And yes, I have hypothyroidism, but as you said, hypothyroidism can be caused by stress as well. So what came first the chicken or the egg? Looks like I will be doing addition testing like Free T3 and Free T4, just to try to see what kind of hypothyroid I have.
neverending
I did my second acupuncture treatment today and all I can say is that I am soooooo sleepy. Geez, I didn't know it makes you feel like this. As far as hormones, I have no clue where they are right now.I have an appointment on the 23rd so I should have tests done then. Has anyone else tried Acupuncture before?
arj75
QUOTE(neverending @ Jul 5 2007, 01:24 PM) *
I did my second acupuncture treatment today and all I can say is that I am soooooo sleepy. Geez, I didn't know it makes you feel like this. As far as hormones, I have no clue where they are right now.I have an appointment on the 23rd so I should have tests done then. Has anyone else tried Acupuncture before?



I have never tried it...Does it hurt? Of the many phobias I do have.needles are not one of them.lol Is that what they use? I don't know jack about it. I found something that knocks my ass out so I can sleep though ....allergy meds..of all things.lol. Four nights in a row (two and a half year record) I already feel like a new women.

Keep us updated..Is it expensive?

I think one of our cheapest products that we all need to focus on is stress management. i have no skills..they consisted of chain smoking marlboro lights, drinking, and listening to the relaxing mello music of old school such as Metallica or Rage against the machine..it isn't helping. It does however, make me pissed off so I'm gonna jam to that on the drive to see Dr. Dorroco. Cinderflower, made an excellent point to me...I'm not doctor hopping, I'm doctor shopping. I haven't taken the meds he prescribed to me...I really want to fuck with him bad! lol Oh, if I do have cervical cancer, this dumbass will not be the doctor who treats me, and I can't wait to tell him that either. I think I'm ok though, there was only a few questionable areas..probably still healing from the hydrogen perioxide overkill. i think that's what he sees. I'm still not stinking, and no discharge, or itch. I am gonna ask him to see my records, I really am curious if he followed all the steps to make his diagnosis for bv. I doubt it.

This soy bean, soy oil, soy supplement thing...really has me puzzled. We have infant formula..made from soy(some). What does the baby girls body do with a fake estrogen it is not ready to use yet? Is it just a radical in her body that floats around until who knows when? Or does the body have a way of getting rid of it? Is this really safe to use? Why would we want this? Maybe for Asian woman..it is ok..and doesn't cause any problems..but for other nationalities..it does..I kind of look at it this way..Koloa bears (yeah i can't spell it) don't eat maple tree leaves, nor could they survive from it. Each species is designed a certain way for a reason...

I am also curious, if the over the counter products marketed for women dealing with menapause..if these products actually give any relief..they all are made from soy....



So anyone who has some good ideas for stress management..List them...it's the cheapest product we can buy..who knows it might work... (certainly a benefit regardless.)
arj75
Ok, one more question...does anyone know what ethnic groups are at a higher risk to development breast cancer? One of the treatments for breast cancer is hormone therapy. I'm not sure if it is done because the chemo or radiation treatments throw the hormones out of whack or, doctors feel it was the cause in the first place.

Does anyone think this too? This BV epidemic....might be caused from the growth hormones animals are being pumped up with? Or, at least, one of the causes?

Also, I'm gonna follow my own advice, to keep myself from getting discouraged.....yes, my son is one year old....but I nursed him for 8 months...my hormones...there is no way they have had a chance to get back into check....(It's been only four months since I have quit nursing.

I found a product at the drug store...it's vitamins called "mothers blend"....it supports postpartum balance, claims it helps with PMS, it also has St. John's Wort, Flaxseed, vitamin C, E, Green tea and Selenium.

anitsirhc
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