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firecrotch
Hi ladies. I've been doing the hyd peroxide treatment. it seems to work pretty fast. usually by the morning its no smell or discharge. i read that it would burn a little and that means it's working on something. but i haven't felt anything when i douche with it-so not sure if i have anything or not. i don't have the full on fishy smell but when i pull my pants down to go to the bathroom I do smell it. i just hope no one else smells it.

has anyone gotten their man to do the penile soak? how did you approach him to do it? I really think that he keeps passing it back to me. we rarely have sex because of this. i'm so freakin paranoid. and whenever we do, i tend to feel all BV the next day. i hate this crap!
I want to have spontaneous sex but because of this I can't seem to get in the mood unless i know my hoo-hoo is completely odor free. so i have to make sure I take a shower before hand and after wards. this is really ruining my sex life. we haven't had sex in about 3 wks.
dh doesn't seem to care, but i do. i can't let go and be free like i used to be before this bv nightmare.

FC mad.gif
Italianwife88
fire crotch, i havent noticed any burning either. I think you should up the hydrogen CC's. what ratio are you using now? Have you thought about trying the one time treatment of full 30 cc?

I started the hydrogen 2 nights ago and i have no bad discharge or smell.... the only smell i have is my pee from a really bad kidney infection. I have to go to the doctor tomorrow ive been peeing blood for 2 days straight its so scary.

brandils
QUOTE(firecrotch @ Sep 2 2007, 01:07 PM) *
Hi ladies. I've been doing the hyd peroxide treatment. it seems to work pretty fast. usually by the morning its no smell or discharge. i read that it would burn a little and that means it's working on something. but i haven't felt anything when i douche with it-so not sure if i have anything or not. i don't have the full on fishy smell but when i pull my pants down to go to the bathroom I do smell it. i just hope no one else smells it.

has anyone gotten their man to do the penile soak? how did you approach him to do it? I really think that he keeps passing it back to me. we rarely have sex because of this. i'm so freakin paranoid. and whenever we do, i tend to feel all BV the next day. i hate this crap!
I want to have spontaneous sex but because of this I can't seem to get in the mood unless i know my hoo-hoo is completely odor free. so i have to make sure I take a shower before hand and after wards. this is really ruining my sex life. we haven't had sex in about 3 wks.
dh doesn't seem to care, but i do. i can't let go and be free like i used to be before this bv nightmare.

FC mad.gif


I just wanted you to know that I feel for you, not being able to have spontaneous sex is awful. My hubby is ok with it but it totally ruins my mood. When I finally feel like the BV is gone I still don't want sex because I know it will be back if we do. Haven't tried the peroxide yet but the femmesil, B6 and folic acid seem to be working at this point. Who knows how long it will last. sad.gif


I wrote to the Oprah show and asked if Dr Oz or Dr Masterson the obgyn could help with the BV. Maybe they will start researching and come up with something. I am willing to try anything at this point!!!!!!
CanCan
Thanks Arj for all the diet tips! But I eat really well. Most of the time. I don't over eat. I have a normal body weight. I eat whole grains, try to eat organic whenever possible. I'm not a vegitarian - but I don't eat a lot of meat. And when I do eat meat, I rarely eat red meat. I usually steam my food instead of eating it raw, but what I will do is try to eat more raw foods, and see if that helps. And as of a few days ago, I am taking enzyme caplets after my meals, hoping that does something.
firecrotch
i actually use a baby oral medicine syringe. it works perfectly. maybe i do need to up the dose.

funny story-- today i'm cooking and start to smell fish, like tuna fish. you know how us BV women are so paranoid about that fishy smell. so I'm smelling all around first, the cabinets, the pot (i was cooking pork), the closet, the fridge and nothing so i figure it was me. so i go check and it wasn't me-wheww... we got a cat 2 days ago and it was the cat food!! lol..now i have something to blame it on in the house! LMAO!!

FC
SwtSimplicity
Her office visits are $10 co-payment, you don't have to pay for parking. Although I do have health insurance.









QUOTE(arj75 @ Aug 22 2007, 06:34 PM) *
I have cleared up my infections with garlic and gauze..not a real speeding process...and pain in the ass, but, yes..it has worked for me.

Do you mind in sharing this...I'm just curious..how much are her office visits?

I take a complex of all the b's and I just assume the makers have balanced them together as they should have...but I do know b-6 and b12 work well together. I have a book written written by Phyliss balch (Prescription for nutrional healing)....she is a nutritional counselor..she suggests Acidophilus (three times a day) and vitamin b-complex 50-100 mg 3 times a day...and then add extra vitamin b6 50 mg 3 times a day.

I posted an article recently about some new bacterias that were found..and not identified before..Like 17 species..and they were not in healthy womens vagina's...well...some types of bacteria produce toxins, some damage cells, some make our bodies cells the targets of our own bodies defenses, of course some just "take over"

...but there are some species that deplete or rob nutrients and minerals from our cells that are needed by our body to preform its proper functions..such as make hormones... or have a healthy immune system.......

I'm just making a wild guess...I think thats what they are doing..stealing from our healthy cells...

brandils
Has anyone out there tried the new antibiotic Tindamax? I was thinking of requesting this from my doc. Any feedback would be great!!!
user12
I was given Diflucan for this problem..just diflucan. I asked for flagyl, but the nurse practitioner messed up the prescription, so I had to wait two days while my pharmacist tried to contact her. then i realized that she had changed the prescription all together. i don't get it. she kept calling me paranoid and saying the problem wasnt as bad as i thought. so, i honestly dont think she gives a crap about me.



and i dont think it even did anything. i also just got my period a WEEK early, what the hell? it can't be related to the pill, but what the.


i hate being a girl.



has anyone ever bought flagyl online?

http://www.drugdelivery.ca/s3503-s-FLAGYL.aspx

safe? unsafe? I'm just getting so depressed.
neverending
I heard and I don't know if this is true but this soap is supposed to be good for BV.Has anyone tried this before? I saw it at walmart but I didn't buy it because I don't have this problem anymore. Knock on wood!

Genuine Black & White Soap

Black & White Soap aids in soothing itching, burning and stinging due to acne, eczema and other skin problems. From the Cayce Health Care Philosophy: "Use the Black & White creams for face, for hands, for body. These will keep the irritations from making the openings, or large pores." (3081-1) It will leave your skin feeling fresh and silky smooth.This soap lathers freely, cleanses thoroughly and rinses off easily.


Suggested Usage: Remove grime, dirt, dust and oily film with Black & White Soap and lukewarm water.


Ingredients:Sodium tallowate, Sodium Cocoate, Water, Glycerin, Sodium Chloride, Acetylated Lanolin Alcohol, Magnesium Carbonate, Fragrance, Propylene glycol, titanium Dioxide, D&C Red #30 Lake, D&C Orange #4, Tetrasodium EDTA, BHT.

arj75
Who ever brought up enzymes...thanks...I can't quit reading about it. lol

I'm laughing at the dumbass's who post articles saying enzyme supplementation doesn't help. Look up treatment for cystic fibrosis...you will find that IT IS added to their diets. (By doctors) to aid in digestive process)
neverending
I've been having gas and bloating like crazy lately and I'm afraid to go to the doctor because he might give me antibiotics and I don't want this stuff to start up anymore. Any suggestions as to how to get rid of the gas and bloating?
mfc10
QUOTE(neverending @ Sep 4 2007, 04:45 PM) *
I've been having gas and bloating like crazy lately and I'm afraid to go to the doctor because he might give me antibiotics and I don't want this stuff to start up anymore. Any suggestions as to how to get rid of the gas and bloating?


Try an enteric-coated peppermint oil capsule. The enteric coating will assure that the peppermint oil will not contribute to acid reflux. My Mom & I swear by this. wink.gif

Maggie C.
pympmama1
QUOTE(arj75 @ Sep 2 2007, 07:39 AM) *
pympmama1,

Does yours just never go away? or does it just reoccur?

I think I have the solution for single women....find a virgin (while this may be much more difficult than finding a cure for bv...the man isn't gonna have a clue as to what a normal vagina smells like anyways. lol

Or, find yourself a fisherman, (the one that makes $$$$ and risks his life so we can eat craps and certain fish) hey, obviously, the smell doesn't bother them..or they wouldn't be able to do their job's. lol

Italianwife,

Penis soaks...hmmm never would have thought about that. I would grap your man's macho ass and make him read up. Sometimes seeing is believing.


Yes it goes away... but it reoccurs....eventually... and for the life of me I cannot figure out what I did different to bring about the bv...
prvtpuss
i have a question. i just diagnosed my first (and hopefully last) bacterial vaginosis infection. after a couple of weeks of having an intense ammonia/garbage discharge i just figured out what was going on by googling garbage and ammonia and vagina. after reading this board, i'm totally freaked that this is the beginning of a lifelong hell!?! how often does someone just get one bout of BV and then never again? i'm 29 and have had a lot of sex with a lot of partners over the past 13 years and this is the first time i've ever dealt with this. i sort of know what happened. i started having sex with a new partner this summer, unprotected, with withdrawal (stupid i know), then i came back to school (med school - so i should know better) and had unprotected sex with another new partner (this one a virgin, i'm pretty sure). he came inside of me like an newbie and that's when the smell began. i would say that the BV is from the second guy except for the fact that all summer that i was hooking up with guy #1 i was slightly itchy and not quite normal down there. i thought it was a yeast infection or the beginning of one, but now i know the truth. so is it possible the BV is from guy #1 and the semen from guy #2 activated it or at least upset my pH enough to give the BV the foothold it was looking for?

anyway, i guess my main question is what are the chances of this going away and never coming back. i've never had my puss smell so incredibly bizarre. it's beyond strange. i just popped 3 probiotic pills, emptied 2 capsules directly into my vagina and tomorrow i'm going to take a gram of flagyl to be followed by another gram the next day. could i freak out my bacterial levels even more with this kind of overkill??? all i know is the ammonia smell has to stop. i study for hours at a time and it's so hard to concentrate when i can't stop smelling myself and worrying that people around me can smell me too. wtf, i totally feel for you repeat sufferers. mad.gif

thankssss!!!!
xo
CanCan
QUOTE(prvtpuss @ Sep 5 2007, 12:45 AM) *
anyway, i guess my main question is what are the chances of this going away and never coming back. i've never had my puss smell so incredibly bizarre. it's beyond strange. i just popped 3 probiotic pills, emptied 2 capsules directly into my vagina and tomorrow i'm going to take a gram of flagyl to be followed by another gram the next day. could i freak out my bacterial levels even more with this kind of overkill??? all i know is the ammonia smell has to stop. i study for hours at a time and it's so hard to concentrate when i can't stop smelling myself and worrying that people around me can smell me too. wtf, i totally feel for you repeat sufferers. mad.gif

thankssss!!!!
xo


Has anyone done this? I'm sure I read on this board that some of us have. Has anyone put Femdophilus up there as a vaginal suppository? How did that work out? I haven't tried that yet, and maybe I will. Prvtpuss, if you are going to do this, maybe you should insert the probiotics after you do the Flagyl treatment. So that you replenish the bacteria. And my other question is: does Flagyl kills the bad bacteria only? The anaerobic? Or the anaerobic and aerobic?
Italianwife88
so I'm on Cipro for my kidney infection... I probably end up with a yeast infection. last night i put tea tree oil on a tampon and put it in. maybe this will work...

neverending, im having a lot of gas and bloating and cramps lately too, has anything worked for you yet? maybe ill just pick up some GasX
prvtpuss
well, definitely i just learned in microbiology that flagyl works only on anaerobes, but i still wonder what it will do to my normal levels of everything- eh they're not so normal these days, so i'm going to go ahead and try. i took the first 250 mg pill an hour ago.
neverending
QUOTE(Italianwife88 @ Sep 5 2007, 03:13 PM) *
so I'm on Cipro for my kidney infection... I probably end up with a yeast infection. last night i put tea tree oil on a tampon and put it in. maybe this will work...

neverending, im having a lot of gas and bloating and cramps lately too, has anything worked for you yet? maybe ill just pick up some GasX

I went to the doctor and he gave me a prescription for Bentyl. He asked if I was under a lot of stress and I told him yes school had started back and of course school can get a little stressful. Anyway, THAT WAS A WASTE OF MONEY. I'm not going to take the Bentyl. I'm going to head to the health food store to see what I can pick up.
arj75
Well, I went to the doc in the box friday (allergy season yay!) anyways, I told him him it took me years to get "my pee" to come out, so he checked for a UTI and of course I had one. So, I have the Cipro, and I will have to report back to him and make sure that it worked. However, I have decided I'm done with all the freaking antibiotics...I found this in "Prevention" magazine it listed herbal treatments (by a herbalist that see's that this does work...and very often to treat UTI's. So, this is what I'm gonna try, and I will know if it worked or not because I have a follow-up. (That doc in the box was HOT) can't wait to go back. lol

This is what the herbalist suggested in the Prevention magazine:

uva ursi or pipsissewa
several studies have shown that uva ursi's active compound has an antibacterial effect on the urinary system. Although pipssewa is less researched, it has the same compound and appears to be easier on your stomach.

Take 2 to 3 ml of either herb listed three times a day..until it's cleared up...now I don't have a clue as to how long it takes..but I will let you know.

If you open any Anatomy and Physiology book...it says the lungs and kidneys are responsible to maintain your bodies ph level (if it says body's PH, I would assume that includes Zee Twat too. So, if our kidneys are jacked, our twats could suffer the impact? If our lungs are exposed to enviromental toxins...(smoking, or whatever...our vagina's will be impacted?? Maybe, it's out there...but I like being out there! rolleyes.gif
SwtSimplicity
I have good news and bad news: I took a yeast test at my doctors office and my doctor called me and said, "I found two types of yeast in your test results", "so I'll be treating you with boric acid capsules that are inserted into the ______ and diflucan." After she told me that I swore the angels were singing from the heavens above, because I know I'm not going nuts.
biggrin.gif

All this time I thought I had a bacterial infection. Ugghhhhh .....
mad.gif
brandils
Just an update about the femmesil that I tried. As I said I had just finished my monthly and thought that the bv was back. I am taking B6 and folic acid daily. I used the femmesil 3 times a day for 2 days and once a day for 3 more days. The last time I used it was 2 days ago and so far so good. Knock on wood. The femmesil has silver and some other natural ingredients. It worked for me and was worth the $25 I paid. It is a small tube but it doesn't take much and I will have enough for 2 or 3 more full treatments if needed. Maybe this info will help someone else. Don't know if it is the vitamins or this femmesil or both.
LoveLife
Hi~

New here! I have been battling recurrent BV and yeast for over 2 years. It comes back like every 3 months. At one point I took oral and vaginal flagyl like 3 times in 2 months. I wanted to cry!! Anyway. I just stopped using stuff. (It didn't go away) I have another one right now. Yay. I also get recurrent UTIs. Which have gotten better, but
it burns all the time when I pee, been tested, no problems... I'm just "sensitive".

Just some info:

Symptoms: I have a strong smell (not usually fishy, but strong crotch odor) usually thicker discharge, sometime greyish green and sometimes white.
The worst and most annoying and obvious that I ahven't noticed many people talk about are the air bubbles i feel leaving my pussfactor ALL DAY LONG.
It drives me nuts! its like a freakin bubble machine in there. Anyone else have this problem? Could it be something else?

What I've tried: Boric Acid, kinda burns and irritates the skin for me. I use Yeast Guard though and I know there are other things in there. It's kinda scratchy...
Like all of the stupid prescriptions, oral and vaginal. "oh well, let's just try ONE MORE course of meds and see if it works this time..." riiiight.
Also take acidophilis and bifidus daily, doesn't really help. I'm gonna buy Femdophilis tho and try that. And I tried it vaginally, helped for yeast... not for BV.
RePhresh or whatever. Took away the itch, not the freaking bubbles though. And gave me a grotty chunky white discharge. But I'll use it again if I'm really itchy.
Aaaand I think that's it... Oh! I went on a month long cleansing diet, no sugar (incl. fruit! esp. fruit juices!), no vinegar, no processed foods, no flour, no molds (cheese, certain types of nuts, mushrooms), no alcohol... that seemed to help all of my problems actually. no more burning pee and less bubblyness. maybe i should have tried for longer.

I also have IBS and chronic sinus infections too. I can't help thinking that at least for me, these chronic problems are perhaps related to my immune system. Does anyone take high doses of Vit C regularly? Astralagus? Anything for immune boosting? Or what about oral anti-bacterials like garlic, grapefruit seed extract, oregano oil? Female repro balancing herbs like Dong Quai? I can't help thinking this is a body problem and not just a vag problem with it being recurrent and all.

Sorry so long. Welcome some feedback!

Sorry one more... anyone tried these (i just found them, didn't read anything about it here):
"Herbal-C" suppositories -- contains Myrrh, Echinacea, Slippery elm, goldenseal root, marshmallow, Geranium and yarrow (available from Vitanica)

"Vag-Pak" suppositories -- contains Anhydrous magnesium sulfate, Glycerin complex, Hydrastis tincture, Thuja oil, Tea tree oil, Bitter orange oil, Vitamin-A (as palmitate) 100,000 iu, Ferric sulfate, Ferrous sulfate in polybase. (available from Vitanica)

Or an Apple Cider Douche?
neverending
Does anyone know of a good site where you can buy any med you want? I remember Jewels saying something about a site but what was the name? JEWELS, I NEED YOU HUN!
i'vehadenough
So I went back to the specialist today and the BV is gone after the first round of treatment. I am glad that part is over because I couldn't stand the taste it gave me in my mouth. I took my best friend with me and she had no symptoms. The Dr was shocked!!! I now use BA for 30 days and then use metrogel for 6 months twice a week. Hopefully this will knock it out but I am not feeling very hopeful. I do have 2 questions for you guys.

How do you know the potency of the BA? He told me to use 300 or 600 (I can't remember which) once a day. The bottle doesn't say anything about how much it contains. In the past I was just filling up an empty cap.

2nd. Do any of your partners have a hard time using condoms? My husband just can't do it. He is suppose to use one for the first 3 months of this study. We used one once in the past 2 weeks and he couldn't stay erect. I know is is totally psychological, but he refuses to admit that. I guess we just won't be having sex for the next 2 and a half months sad.gif
jewelscando
AIR BUBBLES.....Yes...we've spoke of these before. This is normally one of the first signs for me that I have B.V.

Neverending...it's been so long since I ordered. I would just go to search and type in the name you are looking for with the words "Buy Online". That's how I found mine.

Feel free to P.M. me. I don't check this site everyday, but if you P.M. me, I get an email saying so!!

Still B.V. free on my end. Got rid of the ex, got rid of the B.V......
prvtpuss
the flagyl worked so far... no stinkiness.... i'm still waiting with bated breath.

good luck to all of you
Lotus0910
OK, so I was diagnosed with B.V. about a year ago. I went on Flagyl and it cleared up. Around the same time, my boyfriend and I broke up.
I stayed celibate for a good eight months or so, and recently (about a month ago) had sex for the first time after the breakup.

God damn it if I don't have weird shit going on in my crotch again! Strong smell, air bubbles, the works. Has this ever happened to anyone else? Does intercourse trigger flare ups? Maybe the only reason why it went away at all is because I wasn't having sex for all that time.. if so that would SUCK.

Any thoughts?
Italianwife88
QUOTE(i @ Sep 6 2007, 09:32 PM) *
So I went back to the specialist today and the BV is gone after the first round of treatment. I am glad that part is over because I couldn't stand the taste it gave me in my mouth. I took my best friend with me and she had no symptoms. The Dr was shocked!!! I now use BA for 30 days and then use metrogel for 6 months twice a week. Hopefully this will knock it out but I am not feeling very hopeful. I do have 2 questions for you guys.

How do you know the potency of the BA? He told me to use 300 or 600 (I can't remember which) once a day. The bottle doesn't say anything about how much it contains. In the past I was just filling up an empty cap.

2nd. Do any of your partners have a hard time using condoms? My husband just can't do it. He is suppose to use one for the first 3 months of this study. We used one once in the past 2 weeks and he couldn't stay erect. I know is is totally psychological, but he refuses to admit that. I guess we just won't be having sex for the next 2 and a half months sad.gif




you get that bad taste in your mouth too? If i yawned or sometimes it would just happen , id get this nasty taste manly in the back of my throat.
LoveLife
So I'm going to try a crazy diet/lifestyle change dealy to see if I can't get rid of this. Three months. No sugar, yeast, processed food, fermented foods (unless it's naturally done with good bacteria), wheat. etc. see my previous post. Plus, I'm going to try to eat as much raw food as possible.

I'm also taking a multi vitamin, Femdophilis, oregano oil pills alternating every four days with grapefruit seed extract and goldenseal, enzymes, a blue-green algae supplement, an extra 2000 MG of Vit C and fish oil. And for the first little while (i'm not sure how long yet...) I'm going to use boric acid tablets in le coochie. Plus maybe try some extra relaxation and maybe a chi gong class. I'll keep you posted as to how I'm feeling! Oh and I'm also going to be taking Dong Quai.

I'll also let you know if I change anything too. Oh and please let me know if you have any recommendations for this! I would really appreciate it. Thanks
i'vehadenough
QUOTE(Italianwife88 @ Sep 10 2007, 11:15 AM) *
you get that bad taste in your mouth too? If i yawned or sometimes it would just happen , id get this nasty taste manly in the back of my throat.


Oh it was soooo nasty. The only thing that seemed to take it away was eating so all I did for a week was eat smile.gif
arj75
So I am still on my quest to find somewhere to buy b-complex injections, and I got real excited when I found a link. As I began reading the article, they were b-complex injections...but for freaking cats. lol The interesting part (for me) was that this treatment is used by vets to treat cats with chronic renal (kidney )failure!

Our adrenal glands sit right on top of our kidneys and there are blood vessels that link them together. So, if b-injections are given to people under high stress or anxiety..which is most likely caused from overactive adrenal glands.. I can see why this can cause problems with repeated urinary tract infections too..or renal failure. (In my case)

Desperate1
Hi there! I'm new to the boards but have been lurking for the last several weeks as I've been desperately searching for a cure for this damn BV!!

A brief history here... one day late last year a nasty odor appeared. I was freaked out because I thought it was an STD, but an o-so-embarrasing trip to Planned Parenthood left me diagnosed with BV and a prescription of Flagyl. What a relief right?! Sure the Flagyl made me gag and choke every time I took it, I couldn't drink alcohol (which is hard to explain to the drinking buddies), and I got a raging yeast infection afterward (which then I also treated with OTC stuff). But yay... I was odor free... for about 7 months.

Surprise, it's back. Out of nowhere. I've been dating and sleeping with the same guy all year, no douching, tampons only when I have a heavy flow (I'm on the NuvaRing too and have been for over two years now). After how awful the Flagyl was, I thought I'd research this stuff a little and came across this site.

Let me just say that I probably won't post here often, but a big thanks to all of you who do. Along with valuable information on your trials and errors with treatments, you have made me laugh until my stomach hurts! So I thought I'd contribute a little and share my experience and what's worked for me so far. I haven't kicked the BV totally yet, but I feel like I have a decent control over it and I have hope that my treatment will work if given enough time! I don't honestly know if its the combination of things I did/am doing or one single thing, so I'll post it all lol!

*About 4 weeks ago I started eating the Activia yogurt daily. (This only lasted 3 weeks because I hate yogurt!)

*3 weeks ago I started taking Acidophilis tablets and a multi-vitamin pack from Natures Bounty that includes a multi, fish oil, calcium, b-complex, and a bunch of other stuff. (I figured it was time to start taking care of myself a little better and vitamins are a good start!)

*I also bought a box of RePhresh and started using that. I did get clumpy discharge from that, but since the RePhresh is a clear gel I figure it just meant the nasty stuff was getting cleaned out. I did use pantyliners for at least the first day of each RePhresh because it does leak out, don't believe it when they say otherwise!!

*Two weeks ago, more research, and I bought some Femdophilis and Goldenseal. I take one Femdophilis in the AM and one in the PM, and two Goldenseal tabs with my other vitamins at lunchtime.

*I used the first three rounds of RePhresh each 3 days apart (and I needed them lol!) the last one I didn't need until about 6 days after the last dose (which was progress!). And after that last dose I haven't felt like I needed it. The only other change I made was having the bf pull out... it sucks, but the semen brings the smell back again immediately and I feel like I'm starting over again!

Here's my reasoning behind all of this... from everything I read the vaginal flora is off balance which is what creates BV. Antibiotics only make the problem worse by killing off everything and not just the bad guys. I'm trying to repopulate the flora naturally and I believe the Femdophilis can do this. I started off with the RePhresh because it takes care of the smell and seems to get the nasties out which made me feel better right away (I was so so so self-conscious of that smell... if I could smell it so could other people... UGH!). Meanwhile I'm taking Goldenseal which is a natural mild antibiotic that is good for the mucous membranes, and the Femdophilis to repopulate my vag with the good stuff. (I do take them at seperate times during the day just in case the Goldenseal might kill off the bacteria strains I'm taking!)

For the last week and a half I have had only a few MILD MILD bouts of dischage with a slight odor. I'm only taking the Goldenseal for another week (2-3 weeks at a time is all thats recommended), but I'm going to keep on with the Femdophilis and other supplements and see what happens. I'll try to update in a week or two as to whether the problem has continued to improve! My gut feeling is that this treatment is a process and it's going to take some time before everything is healthy again so I'm giving my body that time and working to get healthier in the process. Also, besides the RePhresh, I didn't and don't use anything else vaginally... my reasoning is that I don't want to undo any repopulating by douching with peroxide or sticking vitamin C or boric acid tabs up there!!

Thanks for taking the time to read this (I know it's terribly long!) I hope that just maybe this can give someone else out there some hope and some ideas that might work for you too!
LoveLife
Hi Desperate1. Sounds like you're doing something similar to what I'm doing. Even though I'm going a bit more intense with it. But I've been getting these stupid things for over 2 years and I honestly don't think it has ever really fully gone away. Anyway, what I wanted to say is that I read that it is a good idea to switch up your natural anti-bacterials... ie. the Goldenseal. Or you body risks becoming immune to them. Oregano Oil is actually the strongest one you can take. And grapefruit seed extract is also a good one.
Here is of anti-microbials list in case you want to try another:
Chaparral, garlic, green tea, lemon balm (antiviral, bad for hypothyroidism), lomatium, myrrh (small amounts, good if teamed with Goldenseal), olive leaf, onion, oregano, pau d’arco (antifungal), rosemary, sage, sandalwood, St. John’s wort, thyme, elderberry, basil, cinnamon, fresh ginger, chrysanthemum, mullien, horehoud, hyssop, usnea, grapefruit seed, licorice (careful, high doses can mess with potassium absorption and cause blood pressure problems, but this stuff rules.)
Also some good immune supportive things are echinacea, ginseng, shitake, astragulus, ligustrum, andrographis, miatake, reishi, changa, and there are plenty more too...

** i am no doctor so be sure to check the dosage and side effects of anything unprescribed (not to say that prescribed stuff won't mess with you either tho)

Hey Ladies, I'm going to hopefully be going into a natural medicine field her in the next year or so, hopefully I can be of more help then!
brandils
Sorry I am just here to gripe!!!! This really bites. My sex life is boring at best. My husband hasn't complained because at least he is getting some but he has to pull out EVERY time so the smell won't come back. I have been smell free for a few weeks but I don't know if it is the vitamins or the fact that he pulls out. I am too scared to let him try. There has to be a better cure out there somewhere!! I can't take this much longer. I am going crazy!!!!! mad.gif
neverending
QUOTE(brandils @ Sep 13 2007, 02:46 PM) *
Sorry I am just here to gripe!!!! This really bites. My sex life is boring at best. My husband hasn't complained because at least he is getting some but he has to pull out EVERY time so the smell won't come back. I have been smell free for a few weeks but I don't know if it is the vitamins or the fact that he pulls out. I am too scared to let him try. There has to be a better cure out there somewhere!! I can't take this much longer. I am going crazy!!!!! mad.gif


Brandils: Keep it together girl! One day it will all be over and you will be able to have hot, freaky, kinky sex with your husband. LOL! JUST DON'T GIVE UP!
Desperate1
Hi LoveLife:)

I went back and reread your posts and it does seem we are on a simillar supplement routine:) How are your symptoms since you started? I'm two weeks in with the Femdophilis and doing well, I feel as though I'm kicking the problem.

I'm going to do the Goldenseal until next week and then take a break from any kind of anti-biotic, anti-microbial and see how things go. What I'm afraid of is that I'm being counterproductive by taking any kind of anti and expecting my little probiotics to repopulate again... any thoughts on this? If I do feel like I start losing ground, I will try some of the others off of your list, thanks so much for the info!

Best of luck to everyone battling this... I just bought my second bottle of Femdophilis today so I'm goin strong lol!

Also, is anyone on the NuvaRing? I've been on it for over two years and only had the BV problem twice in the past 10 months, but I'm wondering if it could affect the BV at all? Should I be taking it out and washing it regularly while I'm fighting the BV? I'm not willing to go off of it... it's the best birth control on the planet as far as I'm concerned, but maybe it could be harboring the bad guys? Just wondering if anyone else has given this any thought??
LoveLife
Well, I just started on Monday, so its a little early to tell. Plus I've been using the boric acid caps, so that also affects it. On a side note, a little worried because my period seemed to start like 4 days ago, and nothing full blown yet. Could be the diet though. Bad timing. I hope so. Anyway! I don't think you should worry that the anti- and the pro- will cancel each other out. As long as you don't take them together it should be fine. It's recommended that ladies take acidophilus when on a prescription, so I think it should be fine. Esp. if it seems to be working for you! I'm going to give an update in another week or so when my period and the boric acid are worked out.

Question for all BV fighters... Does anyone notice a grainy texture to their periods sometimes? I don't know if it's just me, but I think it might have to do with the BV.

As for the Nuva Ring, I was on it for a bit a while back, but it didn't work for me. I would ask the doc. I have read that it can cause infections, but I don't know. I got infections from the keeper. I used that for probably two or three years, but it might have been cuz it was getting old. Seems like anything being up there for long periods of time could cause an infection. I hope that's not the case for you though! Could you try the patch maybe? For a break or something?
jewelscando
Well girls, I screwed up and had sex with the ex. What an idiot I am. After being 4 months free of B.V., BAMMMM just like that, it's back, and I even made him use protection.

I ran out of the 500mg Flagyl, and have been inserting the 200mg flagyl, but that hasn't done anything. So, I'm going to order some more 500mg online today, and hopefully, that will do the trick.

Anyways, hope all is well. HI LORI!!, SASSY, NEVERENDING....
neverending
Damn! I remember you saying something about him having a big willy. Do you think that is why you get the BV? I hate to ask you but does your current boyfriend have a smaller you know what than your ex? Just wondering! Maybe, it's the size of the penis?
jewelscando
I don't know. I think it's just him. Yes, he has a big stupid ass willy that he doesn't know what to do with. The new one, is not as large, and never had problems with him. I'm just stupid for giving in. It's just hard. We have going on almost 6yrs history with each other, and it's been hard to say no. Obviously, "HE'S CHANGED" and is in love with me and only me, and can't live without me, blah, blah, blah, and I was stupid enough to buy into it AGAIN. But, I won't make that same mistake again.

I ordered some more 500mg online yesterday. And have been taking 2 of the 200mg twice a day by mouth. Smell is gone this morning. So, I'm hoping it's gone now again. I haven't had sex since with my ex, cause to afraid the new guy will smell it and FREAK OUT!! So, hopefully it's gone.

My sis in law confided in me and has been going through the same thing, except no symptoms. She went to the doctor and they said her infection is WAY UP THERE!!! So, maybe I had it, WAY UP THERE, AND THE BIG WILLY BROUGHT IT OUT!! That's why I'm taking the Flagyl by mouth as well.

Anyways, I will keep you posted.
i'vehadenough
QUOTE(jewelscando @ Sep 15 2007, 06:25 PM) *
Well girls, I screwed up and had sex with the ex. What an idiot I am. After being 4 months free of B.V., BAMMMM just like that, it's back, and I even made him use protection.

I ran out of the 500mg Flagyl, and have been inserting the 200mg flagyl, but that hasn't done anything. So, I'm going to order some more 500mg online today, and hopefully, that will do the trick.

Anyways, hope all is well. HI LORI!!, SASSY, NEVERENDING....



Where do you get it online?
jewelscando
I buy it from here: http://www.horizondrugs.com/flagyl.html

Takes awhile to get here though. And only the 500mg works. I use the pills vaginally. Only 1 pill for 2 days and that's it, otherwise, the kitty will get inflamed. I'm taking the 200 mg by mouth right now because they weren't working vaginally. And now my smell is gone again.

Still want the 500mg for incase I have another flare up though. It takes it away for me. The gel Flagyl never worked for me, and taking the pills by mouth never worked. But vaginally kept it away, until i was stupid to get with the ex.
arj75
I'm so sick of this crap!!! I think the big penis theory is valid. Or how about the "Give it to me harder..harder..I said theory? All I know is I sent off for my passport. Sugar daddy i mean the lovely new boyfriend is taking me to Europe around christmas. Maybe, those strains of lactobacillus they have approved there..but not here... will help??

If they can clone copies of bad bacteria to study..and clone new vagina's..they can't clone some of these other good strains?

Maybe..when you get kinda irritated from the size..or speed..it's like re-opening an old wound and causes re-infection?

I currently have a raging yeast infection from hell, a period that lasts not 7 but 10..yes 10 days long I said.
I am back to chain smoking, hitting up starbucks for a cinn. dolce latte everymorning... and no sleep....
mfc10
Awhile back I mentioned a great product, and the only one I could find with the right pH to discourage vaginal infections---both BV and yeast. It's a personal lubricant called SYLK. Find out more about it here:

http://sylkonline.com/sylkpersonallubricantfaq.html

It's made from natural ingredients, is safe to use with condoms, and has a pH of 4.7. Great stuff! wink.gif

Maggie C.


great
QUOTE(mfc10 @ Sep 18 2007, 09:51 PM) *
Awhile back I mentioned a great product, and the only one I could find with the right pH to discourage vaginal infections---both BV and yeast. It's a personal lubricant called SYLK. Find out more about it here:

http://sylkonline.com/sylkpersonallubricantfaq.html

It's made from natural ingredients, is safe to use with condoms, and has a pH of 4.7. Great stuff! wink.gif

Maggie C.


Don't we need the doctors opinion for this infections? Did you used it or you just found it?
neverending
Ladies,

I have gotten some results from the doctor regarding my blood tests. Everything was good except the Mag. and oxygen levels. In other words, I have low mag and low oxygen levels. I wonder if this has something to do with the bloating, gas? I've now noticed mucous in the stool also. This drives me up the wall! I'm going to the health food store later to buy oxygen/mag supplements.
mfc10
QUOTE(great @ Sep 20 2007, 09:03 AM) *
Don't we need the doctors opinion for this infections? Did you used it or you just found it?


My gynecologist said it looked like a great product. And I certainly concur. As a chemist, I've tested its pH myself and it is, indeed, 4.7.

Cheers!
Maggie
prvtpuss
to the women getting BV from "sex with an ex" - have the ex's been treated with flagyl? i'm just curious. also, i posted earlier about my sex history leading up to my first BV experience (basically got itchy with a new partner this past summer, then the next partner -virgin- came inside me and VOILA an intensely ammonia smelling infection) - but i read somewhere that the alkaline nature of semen can activate an underlying BV infection, so it looks like my theory was right. Basically got the BV from the first partner then the 2nd partner's semen triggered a crazy chemical reaction.

the flagyl knocked it right out though thank goodness. however, i can't stop smelling my underwear periodically in fits of paranoia that it's returned.

this forum is fantastic!!! you guys are all so full of good advice!!!!! thank youuuuuuu!
justs
Hi all I'm new here.

I just went to the doctor because I noticed excessive stuff coming out and he prescribed be flagyl but its my birthday in 2 days and my bf is coming from out of town who i havn't seen in a few weeks and I want to be having sex!!1 So i figured i'd start the meds after the wknd. The funny part is i only notice an occasional fait odor or if i actually smell my finger. I had BV a few years ago and that smell was undeniable.. through my pants and everything.

But this time I was noticing the ickiness and I tried the hydrogen peroxide douche yesterday and i noticed a HUGE difference. Nothing has come out since then and there is 0 odor. I also took folic acid supplements and i think maybe thats helping too. But I feel a whole lot better already.

Do u think the smell might come out when I have sex? Would it be better with or without condoms?
firecrotch
Hey ladies
I have 2 questions. When you use the hydrogen peroxide douche do you ever notice it fizzing up?
I normally use it during in the shower but one day I decided to do it on my back in the bathtub. It felt like it was getting hot and i felt something oozing down. so I took a mirror and it was just fizzing out of my crotch! it look like a rabid dogs mouth. i hope that's normal. i think i read that the fizzing is doing something and reacting to whatever's up in there.

question 2-does your urine smell different after using the hydrogen peroxide? since i've been using it, it smells very strong and metallic like. i don't know how to explain it.

i want to go to my doctor with this but i just feel like she'll just prescribe me some meds and call it a day. i want to get down to root cause and kill it not just bandaid it!

FC
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