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neverending
English Title: The relationship between detection of bacterial vaginosis and the infection with mycoplasma in genitourinary tract.
Personal Authors: Xia QianFeng, Tan, X., Tan Xi, Qian ShiYun (et al)
Author Affiliation: Department of Laboratory Technique, Hainan Medical College, Haikou 570102, Hainan, China.
Document Title: China Tropical Medicine, 2004 (Vol. 4) (No. 6) 980-981, 987

Abstract:
A study was conducted to explore the status of Mycoplasma in bacterial vaginosis of genitourinary system and provide basis for clinical diagnosis and treatment [China]. Based on Amsel criteria, 1317 bacterial vaginosis patients were examined and vaginal secretions from 353 diagnosed bacterial vaginosis patients and 150 healthy controls were cultured for Mycobacterium with rapid culture medium. Of 353 patients, 219 were infected with Ureaplasma urealyticum and Mycobacterium hominis with a positive rate of 62.04%. Mycobacterium was detected in 17 healthy controls with a positive rate of 11.33% showing significant differences between the two groups (P<0.01). It is concluded that bacterial vaginosis might be one of the causal factors for Mycoplasma infection and attention should be paid to the diagnosis of this disease.


Publisher: Editorial Department of China Tropical Medicine

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gonnaloseit
I'm afraid to try it for that reason too, but when I search for complaints about both enzara and femanol, I can only find complaints on enzara, and I emailed their customer service with a # of questions(femanol) and got rapid responses. I was impressed with that. I don't want to be fooled either. So far, I've had great luck with money back guarantees, except in the case of enzara, since I purchased it off of ebay sad.gif Anyway, we're getting gift cards at work at the end of October, november, and december for sales incentive, I may use one of them( they're the visa gift cards) to try femanol or something else if I can find it, or get it early and just pay off things with the visa gift card....I'm not sure yet, I guess I'm just in a rush to be back to my normal 18 year old vagina, I'm only 21 lol, it's not too much too ask I hope...ahhh the good old days, no smells, no discharge, and thongs galore lol. talk 2 you'll tomorrow. If anyone else has tried it, please give results or let me know if you had no results at all, and I'm of course taking suggestions for less expensive alternatives that have worked for you'll. Have a great Sunday!!

QUOTE(jewelscando @ Oct 6 2007, 02:17 PM) *
Did a little bit of research on the Femanol. I'm afraid to try it, because when I type it in google, Enzara comes up as well. I was fooled by Enzara, and don't want to be another $67 and get fooled again. They say money back guarantee, but, we all know what a pain in the but that can be.

Oh well, if anyone trys it, let me know!!

Italianwife88
God this is driving me CRAZY... I've been doing the hydrogen peroxide treatment while i wait for my fem dophilus to get here. This discharge is so annoying and disgusting, not to mention the stench...my god.


Hope the femanol works for ya.
gonnaloseit

hello all, I've been reading through the thread today. I decided to order flagyl online from a site that some one posted on here but it's going to take a few weeks to come so in the meantime I'm going to try the suggestion from this poster, and I just ordered folic acid and acidophilus tablets and I pray that 3 days from now I'm thanking God too before I shower smile.gif Maybe by the time the flagyl comes I won't need it, that would be a blessing... if both these fail I guess I'll try something else.
QUOTE(newlife69 @ Aug 24 2007, 12:31 PM) *
Ladies:

I am new to this forum and have actually never posted or chatted before. However, while researching this topic I stumbled onto your blog. I too have been suffering from BV for all of my adult life. Yes, really, since puberty set in. To make a long story short, through earnest prayer, I recently found another site, www.earthclinic.com. On there I learned that folic acid and acidophilus tablets have been used to cure BV with excellent results. I have been taking three 400 mcg tablets of folic acid a day for the past two days along with two acidophilus tablets. I purchased these supplements at the local grocery store. This morning was day three and I smelled and felt so much better I cried and thanked God before showering. I feel that this is it. In the spirit of trying everything, I strongly encourage you to try this too.

I was so inspired by your posts to continue looking for natural remedies. I was at my wits end and considering metro-gel again. My doctor has given me refill prescriptions because this has been such an ongoing saga for me. I knew I would just be stepping on the BV-yeast merry-go-round once again. I was also put on Yasmin birth control which made my PMS and infections worse. I stopped taking them.

Thanks for your courage. I hope this suggestion helps someone.

arj75
QUOTE(neverending @ Oct 6 2007, 06:31 PM) *
English Title: The relationship between detection of bacterial vaginosis and the infection with mycoplasma in genitourinary tract.
Personal Authors: Xia QianFeng, Tan, X., Tan Xi, Qian ShiYun (et al)
Author Affiliation: Department of Laboratory Technique, Hainan Medical College, Haikou 570102, Hainan, China.
Document Title: China Tropical Medicine, 2004 (Vol. 4) (No. 6) 980-981, 987

Abstract:
A study was conducted to explore the status of Mycoplasma in bacterial vaginosis of genitourinary system and provide basis for clinical diagnosis and treatment [China]. Based on Amsel criteria, 1317 bacterial vaginosis patients were examined and vaginal secretions from 353 diagnosed bacterial vaginosis patients and 150 healthy controls were cultured for Mycobacterium with rapid culture medium. Of 353 patients, 219 were infected with Ureaplasma urealyticum and Mycobacterium hominis with a positive rate of 62.04%. Mycobacterium was detected in 17 healthy controls with a positive rate of 11.33% showing significant differences between the two groups (P<0.01). It is concluded that bacterial vaginosis might be one of the causal factors for Mycoplasma infection and attention should be paid to the diagnosis of this disease.
Publisher: Editorial Department of China Tropical Medicine

About CAB Abstracts
CAB Abstracts is a unique and informative resource covering everything from Agriculture to Entomology to Public Health. In April 2006 we published our 5 millionth abstract, making it the largest and most comprehensive abstracts database in its field.

There are numerous records and resources related to this abstract in the CAB Abstracts database. At this time, your institution does not subscribe to CAB Direct so you cannot access them. To find out more about this exciting resource, and how to subscribe, please click here.

CAB Abstracts contains a wealth of information on the following items that are related to the abstract above:
bacterial diseases, detection, diagnosis, human diseases, urinary tract, urinary tract diseases, bacterial vaginosis, Mycobacterium hominis, man, Mycobacterium, Mycoplasma, Ureaplasma urealyticum



Mycoplasma infections are sexual transmitted according to the info in medical library. Is mycoplasma the same bug that also causes walking pneumonia? I had pneumonia about 18 times during my childhood. Thanks for that information neverending, I'm gonna take that article in for my doctor to see. My new boyfriend, who has been screened for stds (I made him), gets repeated UTI's, I'm curious if this isnt his culprit as well. I wonder if this crap is screened for standardly in every vaginal and urine culture?
frustratedinJC
New to this site- I was diagnosed after I had my IUD inserted. I lived 29 yrs without BV and 4 months after insertion I went to the dr. to check on what was "up" with the discharge and smell, thinking something went wrong with my IUD and he diagnosed me w. BV. Since then he has given me a few scripts for Clindamycin, and just last week I had to see him and he did a test and said he found no trace of BV but gave me the cream b/c he says I know my body better than he does...and yes I do and although it may not show up on his swipe test, you all know what I am saying here, we just know when its not right down there.

So I just did one dose of the cream vaginally and started taking Folic acid (800mg 1/day) and Acidophilus w.Pectin so I am not sure if it will come back again...hoping not!

But wanted to check to see if.
A. has anyone been diagnosed with BV after getting and IUD?
B. are there any other treatments I should consider?
C. any type of dietary changes help anyone?
missbcrazy
Hi ladies,

I need help. I am having symptoms of bv every month. Of course its directly after my cycle. I can admit that i have a poor diet. I've had the same partner for a while now. The BV just began to get more frequent. I have been tested for std's and everything is negative. I am tired of having to go to the dr's. I have bought the acidoulous (spelling) and the Biocitin (spelling). I tried a douche last nite with peroxide and water. Things smelled normal, but i want it to stay normal. PLEASE HELP ME. I am going to buy the folic acid today. I hope it works. Any other ideas? sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif
arj75
QUOTE(prvtpuss @ Oct 5 2007, 04:56 PM) *
how do u know your strep is still around? what did they prescribe you for it and how long ago was that? NPs can be absolutely wonderful, so don't worry too much about that. and as far as strep tests, some clinics can do a rapid test in-office. i think if the rapid (5-10 minutes) test comes back negative, then they will wait to see the results of a throat culture (2-3 days). they do this to make sure they don't miss a positive case of strep. which is why i want to stress to you that if you have strep you NEED to treat it. when your body produces antibodies to fight and kill the strep bacteria, those antibodies sometimes mistake your heart muscle cells or joints for the bacteria and attack them - which is REALLY BAD.


Prvtpuss..you said that you are in med school right? Maybe you can help me out with some confusion over this strep b....I have been told that I am only a carrier of it, and need not to worry. I think Morphia is infected with it, but her doctors have yet to find a med that will kill it. (Correct me if I'm wrong Morphia, that is the case right?). Furthermore, my son is a carrier of strep A...which is pretty damn rare, but that is all I know. He was treated for strep several times before finding this out. I was treated with antibiotics for strep b, before the birth of both of my children, other than the worries of passing this bacteria to the baby during delivery.. I don't think doctors are too concerned by it..... (but I am only a carrier....

Sorry, I have one more question if anyone knows anything about this, my second son was a mecomium (sp) baby )took a dump in me before delivery)...and I have been asking around about if they do or do not treat the mother with meds for this in case of infection in her, and they all say yes, that I needed to be treated..but I wasn't. I'm just picturing a big party of e.coli hanging out in my uterus.
VaginaOutofOrder
I NEED HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ive been reading the thread, great info
I don't know what to do first

I have BV, I get it on and off usually after unprotected sex
I just got a prescription from my doc for Flagly 500mg 3x a day for 10 days
Right now I'm menstruating and my smell is HORRID
Should I just start the meds orally?
Or should I put an insert in the vagina (HOW DO YOU DO THIS AND KEEP IT IN THERE?)
Or should I douche right now (with peroxide and water?) because I'm about to go to the gym and geez!!!!
helpmeplease
I am new to this blog and I think I am happy I have found it! Since the end of february I have had an itch and a toilet papery sloughing on my labia, and it feels sort of waxy in that area too. I have no discharge vaginally, but the sloughing has a slight oder. I have also had a bit of pain in my lower abdomen. I have taken meds for yeast infection, didn't work and honestly didn't seem like the normal yeast infection, been checked vaginally and tested, clean there, but still the symptoms. I went to a older nurse practioner and she treated me for contact dermatitis (which I usually get on my arms) with a prednisone pak, and she treated me with clindamyacin for possible bacterial vaginosis, with in a few days I noticed that all these symptoms were going away, then within a few days after being off the meds (ended them at the same time) Last night I noticed a bit of itching and GREAT there was the toilet papery stuff again but not as bad yet. Has any one else had these same or some of these problems? I am so confused and SOOOOOO sick of having this, I mean 7 1/2 months worth, YUCK! If someone can give me input I would really appreciate you! ALL OF YOU!
jularee
Hello ladies! I'm a newbie and I just want to say that all of you are awesome for sharing your experiences with BV. I'm been battling BV for the past 5 years, ever since starting the pill. I was first treated with Flagyl and that actually kept my symptoms away for about 2 years. About 4 months ago I got an IUD and ever since then I've been having horrible odor and discharge. Another trip to the doc landed me with Metrogel which kept the symptoms away for about a month. Trying to avoid the antibiotic route, I began researching home remedies and came across this wonderful site. Some things I've tried are tea tree oil, hydrogen peroxide washes, acidophilus capsules, folic acid, and of course boric acid. Out of all of these I must say the boric acid works wonders! It is however a temporary solution. I also recently ordered something called Femanol I think. I've heard all the bad things about Enzara so I was kinda skeptical to order the Femanol because it's soooo expensive. I'll keep you guys posted on how it works out.
neverending
Geez, I see there are a lot of new people on the board. WELCOME!

HELPMEPLEASE: I REMEMBER AT ONE TIME (DON'T REMEMBER WHEN) WHERE I HAD PROBLEMS LIKE THAT.IT LOOKS LIKE SMALL PIECES OF WET TOLIET TISSUE FOLDED OVER AND IT'S KIND OF SLIMMY(SP?). I'M NOT SURE BUT I THINK YOUR PROBLEMS ARE JUST BEGINNING. ARE YOU JUST GETTING OF BIRTH CONTROL OR SOME TYPR OF MEDICATION?

JULAREE: I SEE THE PILL HAS DONE IT AGAIN. I NEVER HAD ANY PROBLEMS WITH MY BODY UNTIL I STOPPED BIRTH CONTROL. SUCKS HUH!
helpmeplease
QUOTE(neverending @ Oct 9 2007, 02:28 PM) *
Geez, I see there are a lot of new people on the board. WELCOME!

HELPMEPLEASE: I REMEMBER AT ONE TIME (DON'T REMEMBER WHEN) WHERE I HAD PROBLEMS LIKE THAT.IT LOOKS LIKE SMALL PIECES OF WET TOLIET TISSUE FOLDED OVER AND IT'S KIND OF SLIMMY(SP?). I'M NOT SURE BUT I THINK YOUR PROBLEMS ARE JUST BEGINNING. ARE YOU JUST GETTING OF BIRTH CONTROL OR SOME TYPR OF MEDICATION?

JULAREE: I SEE THE PILL HAS DONE IT AGAIN. I NEVER HAD ANY PROBLEMS WITH MY BODY UNTIL I STOPPED BIRTH CONTROL. SUCKS HUH!




Neverending; I had a hysterectomy 3 yrs ago, so no BC, and no other meds than the ones the doc put me on. Do you ever get rid of BV?
mercurysister
This is all very encouraging. I am a big believer in diet, if B6 has been working I will try it. I don't have BV at the moment, but I fear the next time I have sex without a condom that the smell, pain and shame will return. Needless to say, I will use condoms for a while with a new partner, not worth risking std's and bv. BTW what exactly is flagyll? is this a pill only by prescription? What about using boric acid after sex? Good to hear you are feeling better!
Cheers!

QUOTE(canadianGirl @ Oct 4 2007, 02:22 AM) *
Hi Everybody!

I have not posted here before, but I have read this forum when I found it for hours and hours on end and just want to thank everybody on here for their bravery in sharing their stories. There is so little information out there, and no doctor has any answers and I too was taking flagyll over and over and over again. Thank god I live in Canada and I don't have to pay for the visits, but the time and money spent on the refills and just feeling like a freak show was really getting to me emotionally. A few times I just broke down and cried in the doctors office and they said "It is obviously affecting you emotionally" No kidding!!

I am 33 (just turned) years old and have been suffering from the re-occuring BV for 3 years. The first time I had it was when I was about 21. One prescription cured it then, until age 30. Then along with a new boyfriend came BV. I have been very lucky with him because he has been great. But treatment, after treatment, it just kept coming back almost quicker and worse than before everytime we had sex. (I have had a minimum of 30 refills and that's a low estimate) At first a condom seemed to help, but then after a while even the condom didn't work. Then even (ahem) oral and absolutely no sex was triggering it. I was nearing the end of my rope. I am not kidding. I researched as much as possible and started taking the acidophilus with bifidus capsuls with 500mgs of vitamin C orally. Maybe a small difference. But then the same. It was on here I read about the guy with the Vitamin B6. I ran out and got it about a month ago. Since then Nada. I have had sex with him at least 10 times so far, (with a condom though) knock on wood, and it hasn't come back yet. I just had to share that with everybody in case that can help one person. It is worth a try. The relief I feel even with a condom is amazing. I will eventually try without, but I am just enjoying this freedom for now. And I don't want to jinx it. Also the longer I can stay away from the flagyll the better.

I will keep you posted if there are any changes, but I have a great feeling with this Vitamin B6. 100 mg in the morning and 100 mg at night. I still take a 500 mg vitamin C when I think about it, and the Acidophilus, but it is random. Just the B6. I don't know if that is a cure or not or exactly what it does (balance your hormones?) but it works. And I have read that drinking alcohol leaches Vitamin B6 out of your system, so if you have drinks, make sure to take an extra. I do.
I have also taken one flagyll pill after sex, (doc's recommendation) I'm sure a few of you won't like that, but I'd rather that to keep the invaders away then a full blown infection.

I just had to share because this is the best I have felt in 3 years and I owe it to this forum. When I was here last I was desperate and close to breakdown and all of you women (and man) actually made me crack a smile and god-forbid even laugh out loud. I am praying for you all. Good-Luck!! I am sure they will come up with a cure someday, hopefully sooner than later!

neverending
HELPMEPLEASE:I USE TO STICK EVERYTHING IN MY YOU KNOW WHAT AND I FINALLY FOUND SOMETHING THAT WORKED EARLIER THIS YEAR AND THE DISCHARGE/SMELL WENT AWAY. I USED ESTROIL. I WAS SCARED AT FIRST BECAUSE OF THE POSSIBLE SIDE EFFECTS BUT I WAS DESPERATE AND DIDN'T CARE. I ALWAYS KNEW MY PROBLEMS WERE HORMONAL.
helpmeplease
Let me ask you all a question; you talk about the peroxide douching and vitamin B6 and 12 plus the acidopholus (however it is spelled) does this al really help. A few of you even talk about different partners, not all at one time, you all know what I mean, anyway you say it makes a difference. I have been with my husband for 19 yrs he can't have anything to do with this can he? Also can he have it and give it back? I mean like I said the doctor just recently put me on medication for this and it was working then after i was done with the medicine; within 3-4 days it is coming back. I could tell because the itching started where your pubic hair is on top (well I shave mine) but that is where it starts then my clitoris itches that is ALL that itches, Then I notice this toilet papery white stuff that looks as if it rolling off if you rub your finger on it. I know I am repeating my self, I am just so done with this! I am so glad to know you are all here for support. smile.gif
Morphia
Have any of you had your appendix removed?!

Some scientists think they have figured out the real job of the troublesome and seemingly useless appendix: It produces and protects good germs for your gut.

That's the theory from surgeons and immunologists at Duke University Medical School, published online in a scientific journal this week.

For generations the appendix has been dismissed as superfluous. Doctors figured it had no function. Surgeons removed them routinely. People live fine without them.

And when infected the appendix can turn deadly. It gets inflamed quickly and some people die if it isn't removed in time. Two years ago, 321,000
Americans were hospitalized with appendicitis, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The function of the appendix seems related to the massive amount of bacteria populating the human digestive system, according to the study in the Journal of Theoretical Biology. There are more bacteria than human cells in the typical body. Most are good and help digest food.

But sometimes the flora of bacteria in the intestines die or are purged. Diseases such as cholera or amoebic dysentery would clear the gut of useful bacteria. The appendix's job is to reboot the digestive system in that case.

The appendix "acts as a good safe house for bacteria," said Duke surgery professor Bill Parker, a study co-author. Its location _ just below the normal one-way flow of food and germs in the large intestine in a sort of gut cul-de-sac -- helps support the theory, he said.

Also, the worm-shaped organ outgrowth acts like a bacteria factory, cultivating the good germs, Parker said.

That use is not needed in a modern industrialized society, Parker said.

If a person's gut flora dies, it can usually be repopulated easily with germs they pick up from other people, he said. But before dense populations in modern times and during epidemics of cholera that affected a whole region, it wasn't as easy to grow back that bacteria and the appendix came in handy.

In less developed countries, where the appendix may be still useful, the rate of appendicitis is lower than in the U.S., other studies have shown, Parker said.

He said the appendix may be another case of an overly hygienic society triggering an overreaction by the body's immune system.

Even though the appendix seems to have a function, people should still have them removed when they are inflamed because it could turn deadly, Parker said. About 300 to 400 Americans die of appendicitis each year, according to the CDC.

Five scientists not connected with the research said that the Duke theory makes sense and raises interesting questions.

The idea "seems by far the most likely" explanation for the function of the appendix, said Brandeis University biochemistry professor Douglas Theobald. "It makes evolutionary sense."

[...]

http://www.cnn.com/2007/HEALTH/10/05/app...index.html
gonnaloseit
hi jularee!! i'm new also. please keep us posted on the femanol. I was thinking of trying it. I ordered enzara so I was skeptical about trying femanol too, but I'm willing to if it works smile.gif I started taking B6, folic acid, b complex and acidophillus(sp). My first day was on Sunday so I 'm hoping for something soon after all I've heard about the B6 on this thread. it can only get better so we'll see. I do feel less "irritated" so far, and I think less discharge, but maybe it's just wishful thinking, hopefully not though smile.gif i'll keep you'll posted on what's happening and thank you'll for starting this very informative thread!
QUOTE(jularee @ Oct 9 2007, 02:37 PM) *
Hello ladies! I'm a newbie and I just want to say that all of you are awesome for sharing your experiences with BV. I'm been battling BV for the past 5 years, ever since starting the pill. I was first treated with Flagyl and that actually kept my symptoms away for about 2 years. About 4 months ago I got an IUD and ever since then I've been having horrible odor and discharge. Another trip to the doc landed me with Metrogel which kept the symptoms away for about a month. Trying to avoid the antibiotic route, I began researching home remedies and came across this wonderful site. Some things I've tried are tea tree oil, hydrogen peroxide washes, acidophilus capsules, folic acid, and of course boric acid. Out of all of these I must say the boric acid works wonders! It is however a temporary solution. I also recently ordered something called Femanol I think. I've heard all the bad things about Enzara so I was kinda skeptical to order the Femanol because it's soooo expensive. I'll keep you guys posted on how it works out.

i'vehadenough
QUOTE(frustratedinJC @ Oct 8 2007, 10:15 AM) *
New to this site- I was diagnosed after I had my IUD inserted. I lived 29 yrs without BV and 4 months after insertion I went to the dr. to check on what was "up" with the discharge and smell, thinking something went wrong with my IUD and he diagnosed me w. BV. Since then he has given me a few scripts for Clindamycin, and just last week I had to see him and he did a test and said he found no trace of BV but gave me the cream b/c he says I know my body better than he does...and yes I do and although it may not show up on his swipe test, you all know what I am saying here, we just know when its not right down there.

So I just did one dose of the cream vaginally and started taking Folic acid (800mg 1/day) and Acidophilus w.Pectin so I am not sure if it will come back again...hoping not!

But wanted to check to see if.
A. has anyone been diagnosed with BV after getting and IUD?
B. are there any other treatments I should consider?
C. any type of dietary changes help anyone?


I never had any problems until 3.5 year after having the merina. After I had it removed the BV didn't come back for about 3 month but it eventually did. I am so upset that the IUD was the problem because that is the only BC that works for me. I can not do the pill, Nuvaring and I hate condoms. I did tey the mini pill and it seems to be ok so far.
prvtpuss
QUOTE(arj75 @ Oct 9 2007, 06:18 AM) *
Prvtpuss..you said that you are in med school right? Maybe you can help me out with some confusion over this strep b....I have been told that I am only a carrier of it, and need not to worry. I think Morphia is infected with it, but her doctors have yet to find a med that will kill it. (Correct me if I'm wrong Morphia, that is the case right?). Furthermore, my son is a carrier of strep A...which is pretty damn rare, but that is all I know. He was treated for strep several times before finding this out. I was treated with antibiotics for strep b, before the birth of both of my children, other than the worries of passing this bacteria to the baby during delivery.. I don't think doctors are too concerned by it..... (but I am only a carrier....

Sorry, I have one more question if anyone knows anything about this, my second son was a mecomium (sp) baby )took a dump in me before delivery)...and I have been asking around about if they do or do not treat the mother with meds for this in case of infection in her, and they all say yes, that I needed to be treated..but I wasn't. I'm just picturing a big party of e.coli hanging out in my uterus.


Hi arj75, yes, i'm a second year medical school student (which means i'm tired all the time and sick of studying). a lot of people are strep b carriers, it only really becomes an issue during labor. pregnant women should get swabbed towards the end of their pregnancies for strep b and then i think they give IV penicillin during birth to decrease the chances of giving the strep b to the baby. so no worries, right? plus i don't think it means you'll always be a strep b carrier.

ok, as far as the strep a carrier, i'm not super positive about this, but from what i understand, he may just be a carrier til he gets older and this is also not too big of a deal, but it means he should get tested for strep every time he gets a sore throat. since strep a is the strep that is associated with strep throat, he may get a sore throat for another reason (viral, etc), but the strep may flare up and take advantage. strep a (strep throat) is something you really see mostly in children and teens i believe.

ok and as far as the meconium issue, i don't believe there is much of an issue unless the baby aspirates the meconium while inside the placenta, in which case the baby has serious respiration issues right off the bat and this is considered an emergency. i'm assuming that didn't happen (thank goodness). the only other issue i can figure with the meconium is a situation where there's tearing of your tissues and meconium enters your bloodstream as an embolism (yes they teach us these far out situations), in which case you wouldn't be with us to post in this discussion board!!

and as far as your uterus and e.coli, meconium is sterile when the fetus is still inside you and pooping! their little GI systems don't have e.coli or anything yet. plus the placenta is between your uterine wall and the amniotic fluid with the meconium in it, so there shouldn't have been any real meeting between your uterus and the meconium. and if that doesn't make you feel any better, just figure that your period is flushing out the walls of your uterus every month to make sure any unwelcome visitors don't stay for too long. (and they say our periods are useless)

hope this was helpful and not too long (i'm avoiding studying blood diseases.... yargggg)

s.
Morphia
Arj, so far I've cultured negative TWICE for strep b. So according to the culture I'm "cured". But the burning and white discharge makes me believe otherwise. Yeah...even the nurse practitioner said everything looked normal down there as well as under the microscope. THEN WHY DO I STILL BURN AND SMELL LIKE VARIOUS FOOD ITEMS!!!! lol. Jesus..
neverending
Ladies, So I have not any probliems in a long time but I still run to the bathroom all the time to check myself, I'm always smelling myself or getting other people to do it for me, I'm always paranoid about everything when it comes to my body and to be completely honest, I just don't feel normal even after getting rid of BV. I use to be very bubbly and happy but now I don't like being around people, I rarely ever smile, and one girl said that I act salty all the time( whatever that means) or that I seem to have a chip on my shoulder. I think I need antidepressants but I don't want any that will make me gain weight. Any suggestions? and do you all think I have anxiety or depressed?
jularee
QUOTE(neverending @ Oct 10 2007, 04:46 PM) *
Ladies, So I have not any probliems in a long time but I still run to the bathroom all the time to check myself, I'm always smelling myself or getting other people to do it for me, I'm always paranoid about everything when it comes to my body and to be completely honest, I just don't feel normal even after getting rid of BV. I use to be very bubbly and happy but now I don't like being around people, I rarely ever smile, and one girl said that I act salty all the time( whatever that means) or that I seem to have a chip on my shoulder. I think I need antidepressants but I don't want any that will make me gain weight. Any suggestions? and do you all think I have anxiety or depressed?



neverending i'm so sorry to hear that you're feeling that way but i can totally relate to what you're describing. i'm constantly going to the restroom to check myself, even while at work. it's so frustrating knowing that at any moment BV can come raging back. like you describe i did not feel like myself for quite some time. just recently i regained some of my self-confidence. it just takes time. i think i read in previous posts that you used estroil to treat yours? How long did you use it? I really think mine is caused by a hormonal imbalance because it didn't start until after i began taking the pill.
prvtpuss
QUOTE(neverending @ Oct 10 2007, 05:46 PM) *
Ladies, So I have not any probliems in a long time but I still run to the bathroom all the time to check myself, I'm always smelling myself or getting other people to do it for me, I'm always paranoid about everything when it comes to my body and to be completely honest, I just don't feel normal even after getting rid of BV. I use to be very bubbly and happy but now I don't like being around people, I rarely ever smile, and one girl said that I act salty all the time( whatever that means) or that I seem to have a chip on my shoulder. I think I need antidepressants but I don't want any that will make me gain weight. Any suggestions? and do you all think I have anxiety or depressed?


neverending
oh dear, that's awful. sad.gif i would find a therapist (psychologist) before rushing to get antidepressants from a psychiatrist tho. a good psychologist that's versed in cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT) is good for situations like that. i mean, you are feeling a connection between your past bouts of BV, maybe your self image, and your emotions, which i think is very valid and not abnormal. i'm not trained for anything, so obviously this is just my opinion, but i think in situations where something has made you feel bad and affected your personality, some therapy is usually a good thing. and not the kind where you just delve into your past and the therapist just sits there and listens (and you pay them a shitload of $) or a psychiatrist just gives you a prescription and sends you on your way. CBT-trained psychologists help you look at things differently and examine your behavior and feelings and figure out ways to help yourself feel better.

i hope you feel better, that's really sucky. i understand completely and have been there for similar reasons before.

s.
jularee
Hi Ladies! just wanted to let you all know that i started the femanol today. i really hope this works! i'll write back in a few days and let you know how everything's going.
missbcrazy
hi ladies,

i have a quick question: has the peroxide douche ever made any one bleed? i'm having some BC issues so it may just be that. Any advice would help!
arj75
QUOTE(missbcrazy @ Oct 12 2007, 11:03 AM) *
hi ladies,

i have a quick question: has the peroxide douche ever made any one bleed? i'm having some BC issues so it may just be that. Any advice would help!


I did the hydro peroxide, and ended up with a staff infection, and cervix that bleed everytime after intercourse. Hydrogen peroxide...it may kill the bacteria, but it's really hard on your tissues. Doctors have even steared clear of suggesting this an an antiseptic for cuts and scrapes for that same reason..breaks down healthy tissue. This week, just after my period, that funk was back, I flushed with an povidone-iodine solution. Gonna do this for seven days, as suggested on the bottle, its kills the bacteria, and fungus, and yeasts as well. The smell and discharge is gone just after the one day, and I probably should not have, but I had sex lastnight..without a condom, and for the first time since feb, I did not bleed after intercourse. I also bought that product that Maggie suggested...SYLK, A lubricant with a ph of 4.7..most others are seven. It was 40 bucks for two tubes. I used that as well, the only thing I didn't like about it is.. it kinda has a really light brown color...which I hate seeing anything that is not clear discharge (how I so long for those days again lol) but I put a towel underneath figuring I would leave a bloody red and brown stain, but there wasn't any stains on the towel.....and no rotten fish smell....

I really didn't think that I had a problem with vaginal dryness, but I think from using condoms without lubricant, even if your are wet..its still gonna irritate you a bit inside.
missbcrazy
goodness gracious. i used peroxide and water. I am so scared now. Should i go to the ER?
Italianwife88
omg arj75 thats crazy! for a few days there I used 30cc full peroxide solution (3% from drug store) that BURNED and I flushed it with a little water but it broke up the chunky white mess and the next day it was more of a liquid white, then I started Fem Dophilus and everything seems ok, except i have a low libido and a bit of dryness.
missbcrazy just do what i did, if it hurts flush with a little water. But I always tried to breath through it and let it kill the infection (unless you have the issues arj75 had with infection and post intercourse bleeding, thats crazy)

jularee, do update us! I'm very excited for you. The Fem Dophilus is working, i think the real test will be when my period comes around how everything reacts. I'm always fine until my period comes along... I think my BV is hormonal, but I haven't been tested for that.


neverending I'm sorry about your depression issues with BV, I understand how you feel also. I've felt that way too and I've even hated/envied ''normal'' girls that never have a issue with anything and have all this great sex all the time and are happy bubbly people always talking with a lot of friends and chirping on their cell phones about trivial matters that would make me want to just kill someone..... but I think its normal to feel this/that way when you go through something like this for so long. I hope you get to feeling better, I'm keeping you in my thoughts and prayers.

Have any of you heard of Monavie or Acai?
arj75
QUOTE(missbcrazy @ Oct 12 2007, 12:54 PM) *
goodness gracious. i used peroxide and water. I am so scared now. Should i go to the ER?



I wouldn't panic...but, I would call your doctor - or planned parenthood and let them know what you were doing and that your bleeding after intercourse...
jewelscando
Ok all, been doing 2 acidophilus a day, plus 1 800mcg of Folic Acid and 2 B-6 50mg a day. Going on a week now of doing this.

AND MY B.V. IS THE WORST ITS EVER BEEN.

Still waiting on the 500mg of Flagyl to get here. Can't have sex, in fact, haven't had sex in about a month now. To scared the new guy will run like hell.

So, I guess I can't do anything until the Flagyl get's here. I'm really hoping I have the same success I did before.
neverending
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arj75
QUOTE(neverending @ Oct 13 2007, 10:29 PM) *
LADIES: THIS MAN IS AWESOME! HE SEEMS LIKE HE REALLY CARES ABOUT PEOPLE. MAYBE HE WILL HELP YOU ALL. PLEASE SEND HIM E-MAILS EVERYONE. THIS IS HIS YOUTUBE ADDRESS:

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jewelscando
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virgin4life
Raise of hands:

Whose used Metronidazole??

Did it work??

neverending
Question # 1. Yeah
" "2. No

QUOTE(virgin4life @ Oct 14 2007, 10:55 PM) *
Raise of hands:

Whose used Metronidazole??

Did it work??

prvtpuss
QUOTE(virgin4life @ Oct 14 2007, 05:55 PM) *
Raise of hands:

Whose used Metronidazole??

Did it work??


I did, about a month ago, for the first time. It worked. Plus, I also took some probiotics, orally and emptied a couple inside my vagina for good measure.

arj75
QUOTE(virgin4life @ Oct 14 2007, 05:55 PM) *
Raise of hands:

Whose used Metronidazole??

Did it work??



Yes, I used it...it worked until I was finished with my period, or had sex.. and then the bv was back..I also used probiotics, various kinds.
So, I guess it is a matter a opinion..if you say it worked or not, I don't count it as "working" if you keep having to take it over and over to clear it up.
dani1983
Grrrrr I had to create a new account because for some reason my older one is not working!(not even when I try to reset the password sad.gif)
anyways!
SO I was just diagnosed with hpv. thank you, ex boyfriend, for such a departure present. I'm pretty sure it was him, for he's the only guy, in the last year' I've had sex with that I didn't use a condom (between this last pap smear and the one before) .
So in the last month I've noticed, after having sex with this guy that I'm dating, that it smells reaaally bad after having sex. Actually not THAT bad, but fishy. I don't have any discharge that I know of, except the usual I've always had. I know that hpv can make you more susceptible to getting infections like this, but come on, to find out I have two things in left than a week? come on! THis is such a bad luck. I'm pretty sure its bacterial vaginosis, because of the smell. Unless hpv's side effects includes a fishy smell too? I have to go on wednesday to the gyno to pick up my result fromthe byopsy they gave me 2 weeks ago, but I don't want to wait until then to start the treatment! I'm young and healthy, so hopefully getting rid of this thing won't be that big of a deal. What do you girls think?
Btw, does any of you know of a cream I can buy over the counter, or of SOMETHING I can get to try to hide this smell or something? This is just depressing me so much, it's so not fair sad.gif damn you, ex boyfriend!
jewelscando
QUOTE(virgin4life @ Oct 14 2007, 09:55 PM) *
Raise of hands:

Whose used Metronidazole??

Did it work??


I used it about 10yrs ago. Worked perfectly. Until 5yrs ago. Then, I used about 3 prescriptions of it, and NOTHING. It worked until the next time I had alot of sex.

I use 500mg pill Flagyl up THERE. That's the only thing I've been able to find that works long term. The Boric Acid works too, temporarily. You just have to keep using it. (DON'T USE THOUGH IF YOU ARE ALERGICE TO SULFER) Which I am, and it gave me a really bad rash.
sassy
dani1983: I'm only 22 and eat a fairly healthy vegetarian diet and exercise weekly...I have had BV for the past 8 years on and off. It doesn't really discriminate who it chooses to affect and no, it's not easy to get rid of. I suggest reading up on the past posts.
dani1983
Ah I know but I'm trying to be veery positive sad.gif
I was reading that one of the busties here was told by her doctor that she has it because her husband's ph is a mismatch with hers? Maybe that's why I (maybe) have it? Since it started when I started having sex with this guy (and a lot of it). Maybe its affecting me because he smokes a LOT of pot? Can tht be a factor?? and when I say a lot I mean a LOT of it, every day.
Anyways, I'm going to call my doctor's office today to see if I can get an appointment asap, or maybe I can go wednesday after picking up my exam results.
precious83
Do you think other people can smell bv from someone?
sunnshyne411
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Hi Ladies,
I feel everyones pain. You know I have been looking for a site that would answer these types of questions for years. I also have chronic BV(6-7 times a year), and this has been going on for 5 years. I am at the point where I dont want to have sex because there is always issues. Some of the people have tried metrogel and it works, but after a while it seems as though the body becomes resistant. I have also used a cream insert called "clindesse(sp?)" and it seemed to work, although pricy. For me I need to know what is the trigger. Some people say that its triggered by sex, but clearly that can't be the only trigger because I have this problem even when I am not active.
So ladies you all have another burning, itching friend. I am on my way now to the pharmacy to get a refill on metrogel. Wish me luck ladies.
Also, where can i get more info on the boric acid capsules?

sunny
sunnshyne411
Do you think other people can smell bv from someone?

yes, i think that people can smell it pending how bad the infection.
AtMyWitsEnd
QUOTE(precious83 @ Oct 15 2007, 09:09 AM) *
Do you think other people can smell bv from someone?


I could smell it on myself, so I was definitely self-conscious about others. My roommate actually came out and told me about the smell everytime I went to the bathroom -- I was so embarrassed.
AtMyWitsEnd
Hi Ladies ,

Good news to report. I found these boards a few months ago. Today, I'm finally having success with the Femdophilus(the refrigerated kind). I have been taking the femdophilus for 10days. So far, no discharge or odor. This is the longest I've been BV free in years. I did apply a dose of metrogel the first day to knock out the infection.

My past treatments : multiple course of flagyl(7,10,14day), metrogel (including a 10 day course followed by scheduled dosing 2x/week) ,
hydrogen peroxide douche (burned, brown discharge). BV usually returned within a couple of days if it ever went away at all. with the metrogel I was alternating between BV and yeast infetions - not fun.

It hasn't been long since I've been on the femdophilus, but so far it's working better than anything I've done thus far, so I thought I should share. I'll update again in a few weeks to let you all know if it's still working.


LoveLife
Hey'all!

WOO! Awesome news. My BV is GONE! Been on this diet now since my first post, what like 2 months ago?
The diet: no sugar (no juice! very little fruit!), no wheat, no yeast, no really processed foods (i eat a lot of corn chips as snacks though), no vinegar (besides Bragg's Apple Cider), no cheese (mold), no alcohol, and as little dairy as possible (i use soy and rice milk as much as possible). Yes, I cheat sometimes. But I try to cheat smart. Like dark chocolate cuz it has antioxidants and less sugar.

PLUS: Fem Dophilis (2 a day) and Oregano Oil extract (one capsule a day). Plus I used Boric Acid inside for one week when I started it.

I have had BV for over 2 years (and plenty of times before that before it started to never go away with meds).
A note, I have been taking regular acidophilus and bifidus since even before then for tummy issues. They NEVER
worked for the BV, maybe a teeny bit, but whatever.

Seriously advise you guys to try this. Three components to it:
KILL the bacteria: Oregano Oil and Boric Acid
REPOPULATE the good stuff: Fem Dophilis
STARVE the Bacteria so it doesn't come back: the diet

I am amazed! I didn't remember how this felt. I'm so excited. and NO ANTIBIOTICS! Woo! Let's hope it stays this way. I'm staying on this routine for at least another month or two (though I've been cheating way more lately.) And then just try to keep the "bad" stuff to a minimum. (oh and my sex drive is better than ever!)

Seriously ladies. I know a diet is really hard, and taking pills sucks too, but if you're as fed up with this as I was (no sex drive, depressed and frustrated feeling like you'll never be "normal" again). What the heck really? A little determination and you can do it. And don't give up, this is no quick fix. You're gonna have symptoms for a while after you start this esp. depending on how bad your system is.

Oh and attitude too, I hated my vagina. HATED it. I was so mad that it was always getting sick. But then I decided I deserve to and HAVE to love my vag! Nurse it back to good health no matter what. I'm stuck with it forever and we need to be buds. (ok, sorry if that was weird) You CAN get rid of it, but you really have to believe that too. If you think you'll never get rid of it, you probably won't. Your body has a lot more to do with your brain than you think.

I'll keep you updated.

ps. plz be careful with the hydrogen peroxide treatments. i can't imagine it's all that good for you to do it too much. also the antibiotics you use (flagyl, etc.) are killing the good guys too and probably making it harder to get rid of it permanently. for those of us who have had this for a while, I really think it's systematic and you need to take the whole body into consideration and not just the vagina. i think that's a major fault with western medicine.

any thoughts? sorry if this is too posi, being negative didn't work for me, and when i changed my mind, it went away! plz don't think i think that's easy either.
i know its hard, but i do believe in us! oh, and i also don't delude myself into think this will never come back. i expect it to. but this time i'm armed and ready for it.
bacteria, meet an army of me.
LoveLife
sorry. one more thing (this is ├╝ber long i know! sorry!). I just want to say that i know what worked for me isn't going to work for everyone.
so i'm not saying this is some sort of cure-all. but worth a try! (regardless the diet should make you feel better.)
virgin4life
okay lovelife i've got questions. i'm desperate and willing to try.

the oregano oil... does it come in pill form?? taking orally or vaginally??

how much fem dophilis are you taking??
p.s. ur are super amazing to be able to stick to that diet, i couldnt do it. this BV literally drives me to drink. lol

Jewelscando: 500mg pill Flagyl. tried it orally nada. so the vaginally has been working...nice to know. i'm def gonna try that. do u get an RX or off the internet?? know anywhere to buy off the internet?? i think my doc will literally kill me if i go in complaining one more time:( ugh.

Thanks ladies for all the responses.
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