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neverending
QUOTE(jewelscando @ Oct 27 2007, 05:32 PM) *
Well everyone, still have not received the Flagyl.

Had sex the other day, and it wasn't the normal fish smell. INSTEAD, it was as if, a fish crawled up my cooch, laid there for 6 weeks, DIED, then ROTTED.

Worst part is, now the smell is completely gone. I can't understand why that happens to me. It's like having sex, get's it all out, and now it's gone.

I've been inserting Tinidazole Fasign 500mg, which is another antibiotic for B.V. 1 a day for 4 days. And that's it. The prescription calls for taking all for pills at one time orally and that's it. Instead I did 1 a day vaginally for 4 days. The pills don't really disolve, however, 2 were still in there when I had sex, and I think that made them disolve. The other 2, eventually fell out.

But, my smell is gone. I religiously take 2 Vitamin B6 at night, 2 Folic Acid 800mcg's at night and 2 Primadophilus Bifidus that contains 5 Billion CFC. It has a combo of Bifidobacteria and Lactobacilli. I have no clue if that is working, but I'm finally religious about taking them every single night without fail.

Have no idea how long the smell will be gone, but, atleast it's gone for now.

That's my update.


Oh gosh, that sucks! Did he smell it ?
jewelscando
Ummmmm...yeah, he smelt it, along with the whole state in which I live.

I blamed it on my ex, and also said it had to do with my hysterectomy.

He just looked confused.

And, I didn't want to elaborate more then that. My life sucks. sad.gif
sassy
I'm sorry jewels...I know how embarrassing that is, even though it's not your fault at all. I have pretty much given up all hope of ever having a normal sex life. I still use boric acid to keep the smell away long enough to have sex, but of course that is only temporary.
neverending
QUOTE(jewelscando @ Oct 29 2007, 08:21 AM) *
Ummmmm...yeah, he smelt it, along with the whole state in which I live.

I blamed it on my ex, and also said it had to do with my hysterectomy.

He just looked confused.

And, I didn't want to elaborate more then that. My life sucks. sad.gif


I'm sorry Jewels. As I said before, that sucks! mad.gif
virgin4life
heyyy. i'm back.

yea the bv just came trampling on back. didnt stay away for long. ugh. i'm ordering flagyl right now. sigh.

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virgin4life
p.s. QUESTION!!! do i need to mail a prescription to www.horizondrugs.com?? or can i just order it?? thanx!!!
jewelscando
NO PRESCRIPTION REQUIRED
CanCan
QUOTE(sunnshyne411 @ Oct 25 2007, 02:40 PM) *
With all the different meds suggested, can anyone tell me where to start?
There is femanol, fem dophilus, folic acid, vitamin B-6, oregano oil extract, primadophilus...whew!!!!!

I guess start with the easy stuff that you can do right away. Take femdophilus or primadophilus, also take all your different B Vitamins - or you could just take a B-Complex Vitamin (which is a combination of them all). Make sure to take extra B-6 because that is needed for proper hormone function, which has been linked by some women to BV.

CanCan
[ Taking antihistamines or decongestants will interfere with your vaginal moisture, as will washing with certain soaps. ] Just found this info on the Astroglide website. Never thought of this before.

http://www.astroglide.com/health.asp ]
arj75
QUOTE(CanCan @ Oct 30 2007, 12:40 AM) *
[ Taking antihistamines or decongestants will interfere with your vaginal moisture, as will washing with certain soaps. ] Just found this info on the Astroglide website. Never thought of this before.

http://www.astroglide.com/health.asp ]



I admit this is kinda out there but I wonder if that medicine Musinex (sp) would help increase vaginal moisture. The active ingredient in it Guaifensin and it is used to help patients with fibromyalgia(sp). I'm guessing that this is because people who suffer from that have insufficient flow of serous fliud - which would effect vaginal secretions too.
My doctor suggested I try this because my ears have fluid built up in them..and also my eyes often feel like they have a weird coating over them, and get blurred vision from it at times..eye fluid is a serous fluid as well right?

Desperate1
Hi all:)

I only posted here a few times and haven't been around much... I didn't want to jinx what was going on down below;)

So mysteriously my BV has resolved!! I can't believe it... it's been about 2.5 weeks now and just seemed to happen. The smell was there one day and gone the next... its the strangest thing because I can't seem to link it to what I was doing.

I was off the vitamin mixture for about a month and the goldenseal for about 5 weeks. I had eaten vegetarian for about 4 days straight just because I go through periods where meat doesn't appeal to me at all and I love Morningstar and Boca products! I had started drinking lots of water the week before (striving for about 85 ounces a day), and had quit smoking for about 4 days as well. (I wasn't a heavy smoker, usually just 2-3 cigs a day and a few more on Fridays at the bar.) Fri, Sat, Sun, Mon the smell was there, Tuesday, it was gone.

I was still taking femdophilus twice a day (about 12 hours apart), and I was taking out the Nuvaring every day and rinsing it in the shower and after sex and I really felt like it was *helping*, but I was amazed on that Tuesday to have no hint of a smell.

SO then I started trying to see if anything would make it come back... not having the bf pull out... not taking femdophilis... eating meat... smoking (but only about once or twice a week and not Marlboro Lights anymore)... and not drinking as much water during the day... not taking out the ring to rinse it... and lo and behold I'm still good!!!

I have no idea if it was anything I did... although I did see an improvement to my symptoms while I was treating... to recap I used rephresh for one full cycle, started on Acidopholis, a multi-vitamin pack, Goldenseal for 3 weeks along with Femdophilus (which I took seperately so the Goldenseal wouldn't kill the Fem), and stayed on Fem for about 6 weeks before this all happened. Also had the bf pulling out and wasn't using tampons during my period, and began rinsing the nuvaring daily. I was treating for roughly 2 months.

Best of luck to all of you out there still suffering, it is my dearest wish that you will all see your BV resolved as well... I read about the B6 treatments and feminol some of you are trying and I sincerely hope it works for you!!

Someone was asking about the Nuvaring... I am on the Nuvaring and have been for years... I do not experience the same side effects I did when I was on the pill or the patch. My big problem with bc was no libido AT ALL. After researching the Nuvaring I found out that it has the lowest blood estrogen levels of the available bc. This is the only bc that has ever worked for me like it should and I love it to death, I recommend the Nuvaring to anyone and everyone lol!!

Smiles, hugs and best wishes to all of you, I'll be lurking about I'm sure just to see how everyone is doing:) I am cautiously optimistic even though I'm still always checking myself for that horrid smell lol! rolleyes.gif
CanCan
QUOTE(Desperate1 @ Oct 30 2007, 02:15 PM) *
So mysteriously my BV has resolved!! I can't believe it... it's been about 2.5 weeks now and just seemed to happen. The smell was there one day and gone the next... its the strangest thing because I can't seem to link it to what I was doing.

I have no idea if it was anything I did... although I did see an improvement to my symptoms while I was treating... to recap I used rephresh for one full cycle, started on Acidopholis, a multi-vitamin pack, Goldenseal for 3 weeks along with Femdophilus (which I took seperately so the Goldenseal wouldn't kill the Fem), and stayed on Fem for about 6 weeks before this all happened. Also had the bf pulling out and wasn't using tampons during my period, and began rinsing the nuvaring daily. I was treating for roughly 2 months.


Congratulations! I'm happy that at least a few people have found their magical combinations. Can I ask you about the Goldenseal? How exactly do you take it? Like a cup of tea, or some other way?
CanCan
Goldenseal:

[ One traditional use of goldenseal is as a mucous membrane tonic. Note that it does not have to come in contact with the mucous membranes to have this effect. Hold some goldenseal in your mouth for a minute or two, and you can feel the effect on the mucous membranes in your nose and sinuses. Traditional doctors stated that goldenseal increases the secretion of the mucous membranes. At the same time, goldenseal contains astringent factors, which also counter that flow. Thus it was referred to as a mucous membrane "alterative," increasing deficient flow but decreasing excessive flow. How this happens has not been determined by science, but is thoroughly supported by the traditional uses.... It is my opinion that goldenseal acts as an "antibiotic" to the mucous membranes not by killing germs directly, but by increasing the flow of healthy mucous, which contains its own innate antibiotic factors — IgA antibodies. This effect is unnecessary in the early stages of a cold or flu, when mucous is already flowing freely.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldenseal ]

A lot of women with BV have vaginal dryness. Maybe this stuff can help with that.
arj75
QUOTE(CanCan @ Oct 31 2007, 12:57 AM) *
Goldenseal:

[ One traditional use of goldenseal is as a mucous membrane tonic. Note that it does not have to come in contact with the mucous membranes to have this effect. Hold some goldenseal in your mouth for a minute or two, and you can feel the effect on the mucous membranes in your nose and sinuses. Traditional doctors stated that goldenseal increases the secretion of the mucous membranes. At the same time, goldenseal contains astringent factors, which also counter that flow. Thus it was referred to as a mucous membrane "alterative," increasing deficient flow but decreasing excessive flow. How this happens has not been determined by science, but is thoroughly supported by the traditional uses.... It is my opinion that goldenseal acts as an "antibiotic" to the mucous membranes not by killing germs directly, but by increasing the flow of healthy mucous, which contains its own innate antibiotic factors — IgA antibodies. This effect is unnecessary in the early stages of a cold or flu, when mucous is already flowing freely.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldenseal ]

A lot of women with BV have vaginal dryness. Maybe this stuff can help with that.



That's cool CanCan..I was gonna start digging into herbal remedies verses the musinex crap...It's worth a shot I guess. I know my crap isnt running through like it should or I wouldnt constantly have fluid buillt up in my ears and on my eyes. If vaginal secretions are really thick and not draining through..these areas arent gonna get rinsed out like they should and will be a great breeding ground for bacteria. i think I have an excessive thick flow...lol

Glad your free of bv desperate1!...we will keep our fingers crossed for ya...thanks for sharing..
bvg
desparate1 has given me hope. i am trying the same regimen she did. i am taking renewlife ultimate flora for vaginal support in the morning(high count of rhamnousus & aciidphilus), lunchtime is b6, bition folic acid, multivit and oregano oil (stronger than goldenseal) then at nite is primo. reuteri (almost out of this, will get femdol.) hopefully this will work for me too.
Desperate1
Thanks for the congrats... if only there was a magic bullet that could cure us all sad.gif

Cancan, the goldenseal is in a pill form, I found it at my local healthfood store. I bought the most concentrated stuff I could find (I think mine was 5% but if you can find a higher concentration go for it) it is a bitter root and you want a formula that contains the root primarily.

I read up on it online, I suggest anyone else who is trying these supplements to do the same. I learned that you shouldn't take it more than 3 weeks at a time. It is a natural antibiotic and good for the mucous membranes especially but it can cause health problems if you stay on it for an extended period of time. Like I said, I also took it apart from my Fem because I wanted to give the little probiotic a head start.

My theory was treat the symptoms (rephresh)
Kill the bad guys (Goldenseal)
Repopulate the good guys (Femdophilis)

I would encourage smokers to stop smoking or at least take a break or switch brands to see if that helps, also drink tons of water and help your body flush out the yuck. I also didn't do any of the hp rinses or capsules vaginally... my thought behind it was that I didn't want to kill the good flora I was working so hard to repopulate!!

And for those of you taking Femdophilis or who are going to try it, I made sure to find a store that kept it refrigerated. The Primadophilis should also be kept in the fridge. If you are buying it from somewhere that doesn't keep it cold you could just be throwing your money away so be wary!!

Best of luck and keep posting what works (and what doesn't)!!
konphusion26
Hi ladies!! I am new to the forum, but from what i've read here, I am not the only one suffering this HELL on earth. I have been dealing with a vicious cycle of BV and yeast infections for almost 5 yrs now (since college). Its awful. I've been to the doctor so many times, half the staff knows me on a first name basis. My poor husband is miserable because our sex life is pretty much non existent due to this lovely recurrent yuckfest. But he is very supportive and asks lots of questions. And he seems to want to suggest douching as if that is the end- all cure. Which I've tried that and it comes raging back even harder. AAARRRGH!! And the odor is the most awful part of it. I know I'm clean, but it makes me feel filthy-- i keep a stock pile of pads and panty liners on hand at all times.

To date I have tried the metrogel vaginal gel, the flagyl pills, clindamycin cream, rephresh, changed my detergents, soaps, lotions, went out and bought new undies.... and these have all been temporary fixes for me. The first sign of heat outside, stress, any type of sexual activity, when my period ends, or even if I sneeze wrong (sarcasm) - and TA DA it seems to magically reappear. so i high tail it back to the GYN and get the antibiotic creams, which then leave me open for yeast infections. WOOOHOOO!!! mad.gif Its become a never ending pain in the butt. I think the pharmacist knows me too from getting the darn prescriptions filled so much. I dont even want to think of how much I've spent in the last year on prescriptions and doctor visits. It makes me sick to my stomach.

I read on another forum that BEE PROPOLIS is a natural antibiotic : see below from DailyVita.com I just purchased some and I'm going to try it!! I thank you all for your helpful posts, please let me know if anyone has tried this. Or send me other suggestions... i'm a desperate sexless woman LOL And i'm going nuts!!! God bless!

[b]Bee Propolis is most widely known for its natural anti-biotic effect. Bee Propolis also contains valuable nutritional factors including vitamins, minerals, amino acids and trace nutrients.

[i]Bee Propolis has been used for protection and treatment against infection, allergies, burns, cancers, sore throat, nasal congestion, respiratory ailments, colds & flu, coughs and fatigue. It contains a broad spectrum of Vitamin B, Minerals, and Amino Acids with antibiotic and antibacterial properties. Each softgel contains 500 mg of Bee Propolis from pure Bee Propolis Extract.
CanCan
QUOTE(arj75 @ Oct 31 2007, 05:43 AM) *
That's cool CanCan..I was gonna start digging into herbal remedies verses the musinex crap...It's worth a shot I guess. I know my crap isnt running through like it should or I wouldnt constantly have fluid buillt up in my ears and on my eyes. If vaginal secretions are really thick and not draining through..these areas arent gonna get rinsed out like they should and will be a great breeding ground for bacteria. i think I have an excessive thick flow...lol


Arj, when you mentioned the Mucinex, I tried to read up on it. It says on webmd that it causes dry mouth, constipation, dry skin, and decreased sweating, as side effects. And I think being dry is bad for BV. Especially if you get dry down there! But reading about the Goldenseal sounds promising. I bought it today, in capsule form, and took two caps with dinner already. I'll take it and see if it does anything. It apparently increases the secretion of the mucous membranes. Which sounds like a good thing.
anitsirhc
just an update... i've been taking the primadophilus reuteri for a few weeks now and i'm almost positive that my bv is gone. i have hardly any discharge, no smell, no itch, no burn. i feel great! i had sex and it didn't hurt. (i used a condom though, haven't tried it without yet cause i'm scared it will make it come back.) i got my period last week and the bv came back right after (i was also away for 2 days in a hotel and i couldn't bring the pills with me cause there was no refrigerator so i just didn't take them.) so the bv came back a little bit but i just took 2 pills instead of 1 for 1 day and it was gone after that. so i really think this is working for me. if it's not completely gone it's definitely helping a lot. i feel so relieved. i hope other people are successful!
CanCan
Has anyone tried using the Reuteri vaginally? I know those hard little enterically coated capsules can't be used - but break open the capsule, and just put it in a different capsule and then insert?
anitsirhc
QUOTE(CanCan @ Nov 3 2007, 01:13 AM) *
Has anyone tried using the Reuteri vaginally? I know those hard little enterically coated capsules can't be used - but break open the capsule, and just put it in a different capsule and then insert?


i haven't tried it but i've thought about it. if it comes back i might try that...
fiddlegirl
hi all. i'm not sure this is the right thread for me to post, but i'm desperate and lost and am wondering if anyone has any advice. i don't have BV, but i have a constant discharge. i've had this for years and it used to smell badly, too. i had it checked out by my gyno who gave me a course of antibiotics (i think it was called augmentan) and the smell has since disappeared. unfortunately the discharge has stayed. it's quite thick and yellowy. i've had it checked out by several doctors over the years and they all say it's harmless and that some women are simply a bit more fluid than others. my problem is that this is increasingly causing me distress especially as it inhibits me being intimate with someone. has anyone else had the problem and had some kind of success getting rid of it? thanks.
jewelscando
Well all, at my last reply, I had told you all about having sex, and it smelled as though a fish crawled up there and died.

The smell has NOT returned since. I think I found something that is working for me. I DON'T have periods, so, I have to just continue to wait to see if it comes back. Here's what I'm doing, and I think its the Primadophilus Bifidus that did the trick. BOUGHT IT REFRIGERATED.

I religiously take 2 Vitamin B6 at night, 2 Folic Acid 800mcg's at night and 2 Primadophilus Bifidus that contains 5 Billion CFC. It has a combo of Bifidobacteria and Lactobacilli.

It wasn't something that happened over night, it took a couple of weeks to work, but, I had sex 3 times this weekend, AND NOTHING!! NO SMELL WHAT SO EVER.

So...just wanted to give you all an update!! biggrin.gif
jularee
hi ladies. so far i've been taking the femanol for about 3 wks. i have a little clear discharge and a tiny bit of smell off and on. nothing too major. i've also been taking folic acid 1200mg daily. i can honestly say that i have noticed a lot of improvement since i began taking the femanol. the only downfall is that it is pretty expensive so I'm not sure if i'll be ordering another bottle. i have about another week's worth of pills left. After I finish I'll probably start taking the primadophilus reuteri along with a b vitamin complex and folic acid. *sigh* my kooch is too high maintenance!! lol
Callie1970
QUOTE(jewelscando @ Nov 5 2007, 08:43 AM) *
Well all, at my last reply, I had told you all about having sex, and it smelled as though a fish crawled up there and died.

The smell has NOT returned since. I think I found something that is working for me. I DON'T have periods, so, I have to just continue to wait to see if it comes back. Here's what I'm doing, and I think its the Primadophilus Bifidus that did the trick. BOUGHT IT REFRIGERATED.

I religiously take 2 Vitamin B6 at night, 2 Folic Acid 800mcg's at night and 2 Primadophilus Bifidus that contains 5 Billion CFC. It has a combo of Bifidobacteria and Lactobacilli.

It wasn't something that happened over night, it took a couple of weeks to work, but, I had sex 3 times this weekend, AND NOTHING!! NO SMELL WHAT SO EVER.

So...just wanted to give you all an update!! biggrin.gif



Congratulations to you! I know you must feel so relieved...

I'm a B-I-G vitamin consumer, so I'm ready to try what worked for you! I know you take 2 vitamin B6 at night; how many mgs is that?

Thanks so much for any information!
jewelscando
The Vitamin B6 are 50mg. I don't know why I take it, other then, someone on here recommended it, so I decided, what the heck could it hurt!!

Callie1970
QUOTE(jewelscando @ Nov 5 2007, 09:05 PM) *
The Vitamin B6 are 50mg. I don't know why I take it, other then, someone on here recommended it, so I decided, what the heck could it hurt!!



Thanks! I just ordered my supply.

So, how are things today? Still successful? Please tell me you've found us all a cure!

mnijcp
Hi all,
I'm so glad to have found other women who are talking about BV!! I just stumbled across this board and it has answered a lot of my questions about what I've been going through. I'm hoping you can give me some advice...

I'm 30 and have been treated for BV 3 times in the past. All 3 times I was prescribed Flagyl and the BV smell went away within a few days of using it. Unfortunately, it always comes back.

I've read through a lot of the pages on this board and a lot of people seem to have success with some non-traditional products--Fem-Dophilus, Primadophilus, Yeast Arrest, etc. A friend suggested I try Fem-Dophilus instead of using the Flagyl again. Would that treat the symptoms or just help to prevent them after they're gone? I'm confused by all the products out there and am looking for something that will solve the yucky smell problem first. Second, I want something(else?) to prevent the BV from recurring.

Any suggestions on what to try out? Thanks!!!
NotCatEyed
Hi Ladies, remember me? I'm the lemon juice advocate. haha. Drinking lemon juice is so good for relieving mild BV.

Has anyone ever heard of taking zedeory tumeric oil? Any luck? The package at the store says it's for 'non fungal' infections. Is BV non fungal? I looked tumeric up online and they have a 12 day suppository kit that is supposed to cure every type of vaginal infection. Hmm. too good to be true?

I have battled BV for years now, maybe 5+ years(on and off, but mostly on) and I live in Beijing, China now. Right before I moved here a few months ago, I got a bad infection. I saw a doctor several times and took a dose of flagyl in the hopes I wouldn't have to deal with an infection while living here. The oral flagyl didn't work... so, then I did the naughty thing and ordered Flagyl online and took a few tablets vaginally, and it worked!

I had extra flagyl so I brought it with. I am almost positive I have an infection again; lots of discharge, I have no sense of smell, but I can see the yellowish color and the slightly sour taste, (teehee, don't 'ew' me too much, this last part was recomended by my doctor to help me self monitor with my olfactory sense disability). The western style clinics are too expensive here, and I've heard horror stories about the chinese obgyns..plus my language skills are not good enough to go to a regular chinese hospital. I tried shoving a few garlic cloves up there last week, and I almost think that made it worse. So, I am trying to get up the nerve to go to the pharmacist and talk to them...well, attempt to talk to them in chinese....eek. I guess I won't take more flagyl with all the alarm on the site about misuse of it. It didn't last anyway, so i'm not excited about taking it again...ok, I'm sounding hopeless.
Someone please offer wisdom.

Callie1970
Hi again,

Well, you all know I'm desperate about getting rid of this horrible BV, right? So, I'm on day 3 of using Enzara, and you know what? I noticed just today the smell is not there. It could be my imagination, don't know really. Only wanted to keep the rest of you posted. I intend to take Folic Acid, Vit B6, and probiotics as soon as my supply comes in. Ordered it online at iherb.com.

My ob/byn told me that BV flare-ups are stress-induced. Well, that pretty much would guarantee a lifetime relationship with BV for me! Ugghhh!

I've taken the conventional prescriptions at least 5 times (Metro.....flagyl...et al). My ob-gyn said that sometimes BV can go from sexual partner to another, a never-ending cycle. So she had my husband (ex-husband now) take the same prescription. Anyway, I'm convinced there's a multiple sex partner connection to getting BV. At least for me I think it is. I was a virgin before getting married, and boy do I miss the freshness (yes, FRESHNESS!) scent I had. Well, I got married to someone who ended up being incredibly deceitful and a total cheater (300 women and counting....) If I'd known then what I know now! Well, ..Hence, he's my ex-husband. Thank God! Yes, it was a biblical divorce. I had to save myself from who knows what other dirty crap was coming my way if I had stayed with such a liar and player.

Sorry, everybody, I don't mean to sound like a prude...but I think it's important to cherish your body; treasure it for the gem it is. Even someone who's waited for the "right" person to come along can be easily duped. Take good care of my looks, and had MANY interested gentlemen pursue me. (Well, ok, they're still pursuing me...) So, turns out I picked the WRONG guy. I mean, we met at church for goodness sake! NOW come to find out, he's been subscribing to 9 different online dating services for the last 15 years! I'm talking a different hotel every other night, and all based on a picture he saw of them on the internet! Yes, those were his "business" trips. His first (and only) meeting with all these different women would be at a hotel! Of course, everything I'm writing right now is revelation. And you know what? Now that my ex has been found out, he admits he's proud of his behavior...he says there are way too many tramps and whores out there who are willing to be treated like sexual objects... and he's just partaking of what he's being offered! It's like the control has just been shifted over (by these women) to a bunch of worthless men!

Look bottom line, girls....please just be extra careful...your body is worth like gold...it deserves the royal treatment, beginning with how YOU value it.
CanCan
QUOTE(mnijcp @ Nov 6 2007, 10:40 PM) *
Hi all,
I'm so glad to have found other women who are talking about BV!! I just stumbled across this board and it has answered a lot of my questions about what I've been going through. I'm hoping you can give me some advice...

I'm 30 and have been treated for BV 3 times in the past. All 3 times I was prescribed Flagyl and the BV smell went away within a few days of using it. Unfortunately, it always comes back.

I've read through a lot of the pages on this board and a lot of people seem to have success with some non-traditional products--Fem-Dophilus, Primadophilus, Yeast Arrest, etc. A friend suggested I try Fem-Dophilus instead of using the Flagyl again. Would that treat the symptoms or just help to prevent them after they're gone? I'm confused by all the products out there and am looking for something that will solve the yucky smell problem first. Second, I want something(else?) to prevent the BV from recurring.

Any suggestions on what to try out? Thanks!!!

Well, this is only my opinion, but please don't take Flagyl again. Three strikes and you are out. Of course it seems to work for a while, but that doesn't mean that it is curing anything. You still have the BV right? So even if it did cure some women out there, it doesn't work for you. A friend of mine told me that she got rid of hers by taking Metronidizole and Clindamyacin at the same time. But many women have done the same treatment, the 2 together, but without any luck. What I did was different.. doctor gave me Metronidizole pills, they didn't work, then 3 weeks later took the Clindamyacin cream. Which didn't work either. The antibiotics were staggered. And then I developed BV so strong, that you think it will never go away. The bottom line is, if you try these antibiotics a few times, and they fail to work, your bacterial strains in your intestines and in your vagina will become stronger, and more resistant.

My conclusion is that if you have already tried the Flagyl and it didn't work, don't take it again. You will ultimately just make the BV worse.
CanCan
QUOTE(NotCatEyed @ Nov 7 2007, 03:29 AM) *
Hi Ladies, remember me? I'm the lemon juice advocate. haha. Drinking lemon juice is so good for relieving mild BV.

Has anyone ever heard of taking zedeory tumeric oil? Any luck? The package at the store says it's for 'non fungal' infections. Is BV non fungal? I looked tumeric up online and they have a 12 day suppository kit that is supposed to cure every type of vaginal infection. Hmm. too good to be true?

I have not tried it, but I have heard some great things about turmeric. If you experiment with it - report back and let us all know!

[ In the Ayurvedic medicine, turmeric is thought to have many medicinal properties and many in India use it as a readily available antiseptic for cuts and burns. Whenever there is a cut or a bruise, the home remedy is to reach for turmeric powder. Ayurvedic doctors say it has fluoride which is thought to be essential for teeth. It is also used as an antibacterial agent. ] from Wikipedia
arj75
Hey golden girls..I mean golden seal girls..I bought some of that yesterday..but I didn't see on the bottle where it says what percent of the root is actually in there. I bought two different kinds..One by Winding Way Farms..it says 520 mg. The other that caught my eye was Echinacea with goldenseal root as well..it states 200 mg of Echinacea and 100 mg of golden seal root. Anyways..I took just the golden seal lastnight right after I inhaled my ceasers salad and went straight to bed..then woke with massive heartburn and indigestion...maybe it was the salad with extra dressing..dunno

I'm kinda skeptical of this goldenseal, meaning I just wonder if it is actually "real" according to wik..they said the damn plant is almost extinct..I kinda felt guilty buying it. lol

Anyways..should I take this on an empty stomach..as I just finished my period..and the fish rot smell is back..but mild...

I also got some more ultimate Flora..they were out of the fem..which I usually get 2 of both. lol I looked for that other pro some of you are all trying now, but they didn't have any in. Who was the maker of that Renew Life?

Thanks....
gonnaloseit
hi! I'm glad to hear that the femanol is working for you. I think I'm going to order more than one bottle( the buy 3 get 3 free thing) so it's a little less expensive per bottle. But that will only be if the flagyl doesn't work probably...i remember that some of you ordered flagyl online at a link to horizondrugs.com . I ordered about a month ago and still haven't gotten it yet and it says it's pending when I look. I'm getting worried. How long did it take you'll to receive your flagyl from online?? My birthday and the holidays are coming up and it's going to suck if i have to deal with this bv around all those people (family and friends) sad.gif

QUOTE(jularee @ Nov 5 2007, 12:52 PM) *
hi ladies. so far i've been taking the femanol for about 3 wks. i have a little clear discharge and a tiny bit of smell off and on. nothing too major. i've also been taking folic acid 1200mg daily. i can honestly say that i have noticed a lot of improvement since i began taking the femanol. the only downfall is that it is pretty expensive so I'm not sure if i'll be ordering another bottle. i have about another week's worth of pills left. After I finish I'll probably start taking the primadophilus reuteri along with a b vitamin complex and folic acid. *sigh* my kooch is too high maintenance!! lol

NotCatEyed
QUOTE(gonnaloseit @ Nov 7 2007, 07:30 PM) *
I ordered about a month ago and still haven't gotten it yet and it says it's pending when I look. I'm getting worried. How long did it take you'll to receive your flagyl from online??


It took 3 weeks for my flagyl order to arrive. The site I used didn't even say the order was pending, so I had almost given up when it finally arrived. When it arrived the package was so small, I thought it was a joke, but it definitely was real flagyl, they just didn't waste any money on fancy packaging.


To Cancan and others, I will definitely let you know how the tumeric goes. I just got my period, so if I get BV symptoms after I stop bleeding I am going to try the tumeric. I also have found this website with recomendations about chinese herbs. Granted I'm in china, so I can maybe get these herbs easier, but I'm sure you could find a chinese herbalist in your local china town too. So here's the url:
http://www.tcmpage.com/hpinfectrepro.html
CanCan
QUOTE(arj75 @ Nov 7 2007, 08:23 PM) *
Hey golden girls..I mean golden seal girls..I bought some of that yesterday..but I didn't see on the bottle where it says what percent of the root is actually in there. I bought two different kinds..One by Winding Way Farms..it says 520 mg. The other that caught my eye was Echinacea with goldenseal root as well..it states 200 mg of Echinacea and 100 mg of golden seal root. Anyways..I took just the golden seal lastnight right after I inhaled my ceasers salad and went straight to bed..then woke with massive heartburn and indigestion...maybe it was the salad with extra dressing..dunno

I'm kinda skeptical of this goldenseal, meaning I just wonder if it is actually "real" according to wik..they said the damn plant is almost extinct..I kinda felt guilty buying it. lol

Anyways..should I take this on an empty stomach..as I just finished my period..and the fish rot smell is back..but mild...

I also got some more ultimate Flora..they were out of the fem..which I usually get 2 of both. lol I looked for that other pro some of you are all trying now, but they didn't have any in. Who was the maker of that Renew Life?

Thanks....

I just read the same thing on Wiki... that it is on the endangered list. But perhaps it is a good thing that it is running low, this will show commercial growers that they should plant more of it. Apparently there is quite the demand for it - so why not just plant more. As for the effectiveness of it.. I'm not sure yet. I'm so tired of taking supplements everyday, that I forgot to even take it the past few days! I will take it again, and let everyone know if I think it is doing anything or not.

neverending
QUOTE(Callie1970 @ Nov 7 2007, 11:01 AM) *
Hi again,

Well, you all know I'm desperate about getting rid of this horrible BV, right? So, I'm on day 3 of using Enzara, and you know what? I noticed just today the smell is not there. It could be my imagination, don't know really. Only wanted to keep the rest of you posted. I intend to take Folic Acid, Vit B6, and probiotics as soon as my supply comes in. Ordered it online at iherb.com.

My ob/byn told me that BV flare-ups are stress-induced. Well, that pretty much would guarantee a lifetime relationship with BV for me! Ugghhh!

I've taken the conventional prescriptions at least 5 times (Metro.....flagyl...et al). My ob-gyn said that sometimes BV can go from sexual partner to another, a never-ending cycle. So she had my husband (ex-husband now) take the same prescription. Anyway, I'm convinced there's a multiple sex partner connection to getting BV. At least for me I think it is. I was a virgin before getting married, and boy do I miss the freshness (yes, FRESHNESS!) scent I had. Well, I got married to someone who ended up being incredibly deceitful and a total cheater (300 women and counting....) If I'd known then what I know now! Well, ..Hence, he's my ex-husband. Thank God! Yes, it was a biblical divorce. I had to save myself from who knows what other dirty crap was coming my way if I had stayed with such a liar and player.

Sorry, everybody, I don't mean to sound like a prude...but I think it's important to cherish your body; treasure it for the gem it is. Even someone who's waited for the "right" person to come along can be easily duped. Take good care of my looks, and had MANY interested gentlemen pursue me. (Well, ok, they're still pursuing me...) So, turns out I picked the WRONG guy. I mean, we met at church for goodness sake! NOW come to find out, he's been subscribing to 9 different online dating services for the last 15 years! I'm talking a different hotel every other night, and all based on a picture he saw of them on the internet! Yes, those were his "business" trips. His first (and only) meeting with all these different women would be at a hotel! Of course, everything I'm writing right now is revelation. And you know what? Now that my ex has been found out, he admits he's proud of his behavior...he says there are way too many tramps and whores out there who are willing to be treated like sexual objects... and he's just partaking of what he's being offered! It's like the control has just been shifted over (by these women) to a bunch of worthless men!

Look bottom line, girls....please just be extra careful...your body is worth like gold...it deserves the royal treatment, beginning with how YOU value it.


You are soooooo right and let me tell you, church is the last place I would look for a man (if i were single). I hear a lot of horror stories about men women find in churches. It seems thats where a lot of the bad guys hang out to find their prey.
CanCan
QUOTE(Callie1970 @ Nov 7 2007, 05:01 AM) *
Hi again,

Well, you all know I'm desperate about getting rid of this horrible BV, right? So, I'm on day 3 of using Enzara, and you know what? I noticed just today the smell is not there. It could be my imagination, don't know really. Only wanted to keep the rest of you posted. I intend to take Folic Acid, Vit B6, and probiotics as soon as my supply comes in. Ordered it online at iherb.com.

My ob/byn told me that BV flare-ups are stress-induced. Well, that pretty much would guarantee a lifetime relationship with BV for me! Ugghhh!

I've taken the conventional prescriptions at least 5 times (Metro.....flagyl...et al). My ob-gyn said that sometimes BV can go from sexual partner to another, a never-ending cycle. So she had my husband (ex-husband now) take the same prescription. Anyway, I'm convinced there's a multiple sex partner connection to getting BV. At least for me I think it is. I was a virgin before getting married, and boy do I miss the freshness (yes, FRESHNESS!) scent I had. Well, I got married to someone who ended up being incredibly deceitful and a total cheater (300 women and counting....) If I'd known then what I know now! Well, ..Hence, he's my ex-husband. Thank God! Yes, it was a biblical divorce. I had to save myself from who knows what other dirty crap was coming my way if I had stayed with such a liar and player.

Sorry, everybody, I don't mean to sound like a prude...but I think it's important to cherish your body; treasure it for the gem it is. Even someone who's waited for the "right" person to come along can be easily duped. Take good care of my looks, and had MANY interested gentlemen pursue me. (Well, ok, they're still pursuing me...) So, turns out I picked the WRONG guy. I mean, we met at church for goodness sake! NOW come to find out, he's been subscribing to 9 different online dating services for the last 15 years! I'm talking a different hotel every other night, and all based on a picture he saw of them on the internet! Yes, those were his "business" trips. His first (and only) meeting with all these different women would be at a hotel! Of course, everything I'm writing right now is revelation. And you know what? Now that my ex has been found out, he admits he's proud of his behavior...he says there are way too many tramps and whores out there who are willing to be treated like sexual objects... and he's just partaking of what he's being offered! It's like the control has just been shifted over (by these women) to a bunch of worthless men!

Look bottom line, girls....please just be extra careful...your body is worth like gold...it deserves the royal treatment, beginning with how YOU value it.

Callie,
Yes, your body is your temple and you should treat it with respect. I'm glad you know that. However, there are women here on this forum that are virgins, and they have Bacterial Vaginosis. There are women out there with BV that are married, with no extra-marital sex. So I think the man has nothing to do with Bacterial Vaginosis. There IS however A CONNECTION between sex and BV. The connection of ph levels from ejaculate and pre-ejaculate. As well, some men have higher alkaline ejaculate. Also the friction issue. Many women have flare-ups from having sex - even with a condom on - and it has to do with the act of having sex, because sex involves a certain amount of friction. Using the right kind of lubricant can reduce this problem, but again, even with lubricant, you may have a flare up. Please don't blame your man. But if he is a philanderer, then you wouldn't want to be with him anyway, because he may bring home a bigger problem than BV. He may bring home a disease. BV is not a disease per say, it is an imbalance of flora in your vagina and/or your digestive tract.
MoonDancer
Sorry girls, this is somewhat of a derailment. Thank you so much Callie for saying that we should cherish our bodies. I'm barely 21 and other girls my age think I am such a prude for thinking that same thing. Now I know I'm not the only one. cool.gif
neverending
The nuvaring has been great ladies!
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jularee
QUOTE(neverending @ Nov 10 2007, 12:25 PM) *
The nuvaring has been great ladies!
smile.gif



That's good to hear neverending! I'm thinking of switching from the Mirena IUD to the Nuvaring. I heard it's supposed to increase the good flora in the vagina. How long have you been using it? Any crazy side effects?
neverending
I haven't had any side effects at all. I am a little wetter which makes me happier because sex is more enjoyable.
autumnbreeze
Hi Ladies,

It's been a very long time since I've been in here. Glad to see a lot of the old busties still posting! I'm also glad to see some new remedies being shared..I'm writing everything down. I'm still struggling with BV. I hadn't tried anything in probably the past 6 months..just wanted to give my body a break. But last night, I was feeling not-so-fresh (to put it mildly) and did an HP wash and I starting thinking about tackling this BV again. Sigh. I'll post if I have any luck.
autumnbreeze
QUOTE(anitsirhc @ Nov 3 2007, 12:08 AM) *
just an update... i've been taking the primadophilus reuteri for a few weeks now and i'm almost positive that my bv is gone. i have hardly any discharge, no smell, no itch, no burn. i feel great! i had sex and it didn't hurt. (i used a condom though, haven't tried it without yet cause i'm scared it will make it come back.) i got my period last week and the bv came back right after (i was also away for 2 days in a hotel and i couldn't bring the pills with me cause there was no refrigerator so i just didn't take them.) so the bv came back a little bit but i just took 2 pills instead of 1 for 1 day and it was gone after that. so i really think this is working for me. if it's not completely gone it's definitely helping a lot. i feel so relieved. i hope other people are successful!



Hi..where are you all buying the primadophilus from? And is the primadophilus reuteri and the primadophilus bifidus the same pill? How much does it cost?
neverending
QUOTE(autumnbreeze @ Nov 11 2007, 02:11 PM) *
Hi..where are you all buying the primadophilus from? And is the primadophilus reuteri and the primadophilus bifidus the same pill? How much does it cost?

It seems you have given up? DON'T GIVE UP!
jularee
QUOTE(autumnbreeze @ Nov 11 2007, 09:11 AM) *
Hi..where are you all buying the primadophilus from? And is the primadophilus reuteri and the primadophilus bifidus the same pill? How much does it cost?


I ordered my Primadophilus Reuteri from http://www.iherb.com/ProductDetails.aspx?c...d=4674&at=0. This is the exact one I purchased. It's a great website and it ships the probiotics with an ice pack. I got a bottle with 90 caps for about $20, including shipping. Hope this helps! Keep us updated. smile.gif
jularee
Hi Ladies! So I finished the entire bottle of Femanol. It worked pretty well for me I have to say. Due to cost, I won't be ordering another bottle. I recently started taking Primadophilus Reuteri, Garlique, B6, and Folic Acid. The reuteri says to take one capsule daily, but I've been taking 2 caps in the morning and 1 before bed to kinda jump start things a bit. I take the garlic, B6 and folic acid at lunch. Hope this continues to work as well as the femanol did. I'll update you guys in a week or so with my progress.
autumnbreeze
QUOTE(neverending @ Nov 11 2007, 09:58 AM) *
It seems you have given up? DON'T GIVE UP!



Thanks for the encouragement! I haven't given up yet..I was just tired and frustrated. But now I'm ready to go to battle again.
autumnbreeze
QUOTE(jularee @ Nov 11 2007, 11:51 AM) *
I ordered my Primadophilus Reuteri from http://www.iherb.com/ProductDetails.aspx?c...d=4674&at=0. This is the exact one I purchased. It's a great website and it ships the probiotics with an ice pack. I got a bottle with 90 caps for about $20, including shipping. Hope this helps! Keep us updated. smile.gif



Thanks! I just bought FemDophilus today. The two products are very similar. I tried Ultimate Flora in the past and it helped so hopefully the FemDophilus will be a success. I'm going to try it with Oregano Oil capsules, watch my sugar intake, and see what happens. I'll keep you ladies posted.
CanCan
QUOTE(autumnbreeze @ Nov 11 2007, 08:11 AM) *
Hi..where are you all buying the primadophilus from? And is the primadophilus reuteri and the primadophilus bifidus the same pill? How much does it cost?

Primadophilus reuteri and the primadophilus bifidus are different from each other in that they contain different combinations of strains of bacteria. I experimented with a few different kinds, and found that one worked better for me than the other. And maybe everyone will prefer something different because everyone is missing more of one bacteria than another. Not sure. I looked online, and seems that there aren't that many tests done yet to determine which strains are missing in women that have BV. There was at least one study that showed that women with BV had reuteri and rhamnosus missing. But maybe there are others missing as well. I think that everyone should try one kind of probiotic, and if it doesn't seem to be working, then try a different one.
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