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jewelscando
Well all....it seemed like everything was going so well, and BAMMMMM.... here it is again. I didn't even do anything. No sex at all this weeked. And woke up this morning, went to the bathroom, and had air bubbles coming out. That's the first sign for me that it's back. And the smell, is horrid. I don't know why I never just get small cases of B.V. anymore. When I get it now, it's FULL BLOWN.

I'm so frustrated.

I don't get it, I really don't.
arj75
Good morning everyone...I'm trying goldenseal...I think it's been a week now...day three into the trial.. ..I had some thick white discharge..maybe it was a yeast infection, but no itching or burning..but..I'm not sure..it looked more like cum (sorry). Anyways.. it's now gone and I'm not ovualating yet, so I know it wasn't that... the white discharge is gone...and I'm not stinking, nor any discharge. I also havent had intercourse for almost 6 weeks, so I'm sure thats helped some. I haven't started the probiotics...gonna start back on those in a few more days.. I have cut out sugar..no soda...and I try to drink at least 4 bottles of water a day. I still have two cups of coffee each morning..but I just use honey instead of sugar.. I still have 2 servings of fruit a day. Anyways, the outcome won't be observed until my next period ..or I have sex. Oh, by the way..it has helped a lot with my ears always feeling like they have fluid on them...

I tried switching from malboro lights to camels..but they suck...but I'm gonna quit smoking here soon..after the last pig flys by my house. lol.
jularee
QUOTE(jewelscando @ Nov 12 2007, 11:22 PM) *
Well all....it seemed like everything was going so well, and BAMMMMM.... here it is again. I didn't even do anything. No sex at all this weeked. And woke up this morning, went to the bathroom, and had air bubbles coming out. That's the first sign for me that it's back. And the smell, is horrid. I don't know why I never just get small cases of B.V. anymore. When I get it now, it's FULL BLOWN.

I'm so frustrated.

I don't get it, I really don't.



Aww jewelscando I'm so sorry to hear that! I completely understand how frustrated you are. From previous posts, I know you've tried a little bit of everything, but I was wondering if you've tried taking more probiotics? I take two 5 billion CFU pills in the morning and two 5 billion CFU at night and it seems to be working great for me. Maybe try increasing the dosage from two pills to four for a while to see if this make a difference? Good luck!
jularee
QUOTE(arj75 @ Nov 13 2007, 11:26 AM) *
Good morning everyone...I'm trying goldenseal...I think it's been a week now...day three into the trial.. ..I had some thick white discharge..maybe it was a yeast infection, but no itching or burning..but..I'm not sure..it looked more like cum (sorry). Anyways.. it's now gone and I'm not ovualating yet, so I know it wasn't that... the white discharge is gone...and I'm not stinking, nor any discharge. I also havent had intercourse for almost 6 weeks, so I'm sure thats helped some. I haven't started the probiotics...gonna start back on those in a few more days.. I have cut out sugar..no soda...and I try to drink at least 4 bottles of water a day. I still have two cups of coffee each morning..but I just use honey instead of sugar.. I still have 2 servings of fruit a day. Anyways, the outcome won't be observed until my next period ..or I have sex. Oh, by the way..it has helped a lot with my ears always feeling like they have fluid on them...

I tried switching from malboro lights to camels..but they suck...but I'm gonna quit smoking here soon..after the last pig flys by my house. lol.


Glad to hear the goldenseal is working well for you. And it's only been a week? That's awesome. Please keep us updated with your progress. I'm currently taking Primadophilus Reuteri, Folic Acid, Garlique, and B Vitamins. So far so good. No odor or discharge. I'll keep you ladies updated!
Lindsey
Hello. I am new to the forum. I just recently found out that I have BV. I have just been so frustrated with it and just want some support. I have read through many of the comments and have seen a lot of the similar things I am going through. My husband and I are trying to have a baby and this has made things very difficult. My doctor has told us to not have sex. Which we all know is a key part in baby making. This is the first time I have gotten BV. Both my husband and I have never had sexual experiences with anyone else. So it is just upsetting to me when I read about BV on other websites and it says that is a very common way to get BV. Has anyone on here figured out why they have gotten BV. I am only 20 and my doctor told me it is really rare for someone as young as me to get this... Please help... Thanks.
autumnbreeze
QUOTE(jewelscando @ Nov 12 2007, 10:22 PM) *
Well all....it seemed like everything was going so well, and BAMMMMM.... here it is again. I didn't even do anything. No sex at all this weeked. And woke up this morning, went to the bathroom, and had air bubbles coming out. That's the first sign for me that it's back. And the smell, is horrid. I don't know why I never just get small cases of B.V. anymore. When I get it now, it's FULL BLOWN.

I'm so frustrated.

I don't get it, I really don't.



I'm sorry to hear that it's back. We all can relate. Do you think your system (bacteria) has built up resistence? I agree with jularee about the probiotics. Remember a while back many of us were inserting the probiotics vaginally and taking them orally together. Maybe that will help until you get your flagyl. Keep us posted.
Lindsey
QUOTE(jularee @ Nov 10 2007, 10:28 AM) *
That's good to hear neverending! I'm thinking of switching from the Mirena IUD to the Nuvaring. I heard it's supposed to increase the good flora in the vagina. How long have you been using it? Any crazy side effects?


I know everyones bodies are different, but i tried the nuvaring and I bleed for 5 weeks straight. I took the ring out and spotted for a week and then started bleeding again for a week and a half. I hated it. It was horrible. I felt bloated all the time, had awful headaches, and cramping... I bleed really heavly as well.
bvg
if i insert primo. vaginally while i am on my period will it be senseless? also, has anyone done the povidone iodine douches?

thanks
CanCan
QUOTE(jewelscando @ Nov 12 2007, 10:22 PM) *
Well all....it seemed like everything was going so well, and BAMMMMM.... here it is again. I didn't even do anything. No sex at all this weeked. And woke up this morning, went to the bathroom, and had air bubbles coming out. That's the first sign for me that it's back. And the smell, is horrid. I don't know why I never just get small cases of B.V. anymore. When I get it now, it's FULL BLOWN.

I'm so frustrated.

I don't get it, I really don't.

Hi, you are taking the Primadophilus Bifidus right? Have you tried the Fem-dophilus yet? Or have you taken the Primadophilus Reuteri? Sorry I am asking - I just can't remember what each one of us is taking. I noticed that the Primadophilus Reuteri, and the Femdophilus are the two for me that seem to be helping. So maybe you could try one of those ones. The bacteria in each of these bottles is different.
CanCan
QUOTE(autumnbreeze @ Nov 13 2007, 07:32 PM) *
Remember a while back many of us were inserting the probiotics vaginally and taking them orally together. Maybe that will help until you get your flagyl. Keep us posted.

This is what I am doing. I am putting some Nature's Way Primadophilus Reuteri up there at night every night. But not using the little enterically coated capsule that it comes in; breaking that open, and putting the contents into a regular plant gelatin capsule. But only putting in 1/4 of the contents. And I am also taking one pill of the reuteri every night with a glass of water, at least an hour after eating food. So far it seems to be working. I've been doing this for a month.
jularee
QUOTE(bvg @ Nov 14 2007, 10:23 AM) *
if i insert primo. vaginally while i am on my period will it be senseless? also, has anyone done the povidone iodine douches?

thanks


I tried the iodine/peroxide douches. It was a very temporary fix. I had to do it every night and even then the symptoms returned by the next evening. As for the vaginal primo, I would definitely insert them. The probiotic bacteria will help balance out everything while you're on your period. Since blood has a higher pH than the vagina is normally, the probiotics will kinda help to keep the bad bacteria away.
jularee
QUOTE(Lindsey @ Nov 14 2007, 02:45 AM) *
I know everyones bodies are different, but i tried the nuvaring and I bleed for 5 weeks straight. I took the ring out and spotted for a week and then started bleeding again for a week and a half. I hated it. It was horrible. I felt bloated all the time, had awful headaches, and cramping... I bleed really heavly as well.



Yikes! Sorry to hear that. I've had my IUD for about 6 months now and I've only had one super light and short period since having it inserted. I thought the IUD might be triggering my BV reoccurences so I was considering having it removed. Hopefully if my current regimen continues to work, I won't have to remove it.
autumnbreeze
QUOTE(bvg @ Nov 14 2007, 09:23 AM) *
if i insert primo. vaginally while i am on my period will it be senseless? also, has anyone done the povidone iodine douches?

thanks



I am currently using the p-i douche. This is my first time trying it. Umm, it's hard to say if it's working by itself. I used 2 of these douches this week, on Monday & Wednesday. The discharge & funk has decreased significantly but I also started taking those Oregano Oil Capsules on Monday so it could be the combination.
I brought some FemDophilus also but I'm wondering when I should start taking them?? I don't want the Oregano Oil & the medicated douche to kill off the probiotics (they cost too much $$ to waste them). Any suggestions anyone? Just to add..I don't plan on doing the povidone douche extensively. Only once more this week and that's it.
Lindsey
QUOTE(jularee @ Nov 14 2007, 10:41 AM) *
Yikes! Sorry to hear that. I've had my IUD for about 6 months now and I've only had one super light and short period since having it inserted. I thought the IUD might be triggering my BV reoccurences so I was considering having it removed. Hopefully if my current regimen continues to work, I won't have to remove it.


Luck girl with your periods. What regimen are you currently trying right now. This is my first time with BV. I am on metrogel. It seems to be helping. I will be on my 3rd night of treament tonight. I haven't had any smell... Just massive amounts of discharge. It has been so much that I have to change my pantie liner five or six times a day. It has been driving me nutty!
jularee
QUOTE(Lindsey @ Nov 14 2007, 09:54 PM) *
Luck girl with your periods. What regimen are you currently trying right now. This is my first time with BV. I am on metrogel. It seems to be helping. I will be on my 3rd night of treament tonight. I haven't had any smell... Just massive amounts of discharge. It has been so much that I have to change my pantie liner five or six times a day. It has been driving me nutty!



I started with femanol. Took that for a month but had to discontinue it due to cost, however it worked pretty well. Now I've been taking Primadophilus Reuteri (2 caps in the morning on an empty stomach and 2 before bed), B Vitamin Complex, Folic Acid, and Garlique. It's only been a few days but I have no odor, discharge or anything. Hopefully the Metrogel will work for you. I used it a couple of months ago and 2 wks after I finished treatment my BV came back. With the Metrogel, I also had a huge amount of discharge that kinda looked like clumped toilet paper or something. Good luck with your treatment!
Lindsey
QUOTE(jularee @ Nov 14 2007, 08:20 PM) *
I started with femanol. Took that for a month but had to discontinue it due to cost, however it worked pretty well. Now I've been taking Primadophilus Reuteri (2 caps in the morning on an empty stomach and 2 before bed), B Vitamin Complex, Folic Acid, and Garlique. It's only been a few days but I have no odor, discharge or anything. Hopefully the Metrogel will work for you. I used it a couple of months ago and 2 wks after I finished treatment my BV came back. With the Metrogel, I also had a huge amount of discharge that kinda looked like clumped toilet paper or something. Good luck with your treatment!




I am writing down all of these things. I have read that BV will always come back within 3 months of treating it? I hope that the your formula works for you. Keep me posted on it. With the metrogel I have a different discharge now that I have started it then i did before. It is very weird... somewhat like clumped up toliet paper... but really little peices, and I feel like I am drenched. But I really am not as wet as I feel. I have also read that BV causes low birth weight and premature delievery. We have been trying to become pregnant. Do you know anything about that? Thanks!
jularee
QUOTE(Lindsey @ Nov 15 2007, 01:12 AM) *
I am writing down all of these things. I have read that BV will always come back within 3 months of treating it? I hope that the your formula works for you. Keep me posted on it. With the metrogel I have a different discharge now that I have started it then i did before. It is very weird... somewhat like clumped up toliet paper... but really little peices, and I feel like I am drenched. But I really am not as wet as I feel. I have also read that BV causes low birth weight and premature delievery. We have been trying to become pregnant. Do you know anything about that? Thanks!



If left untreated during the pregnancy, BV can indeed cause low birth weight babies and premature delivery. I delivered my son at 35 wks and he only weighed 4lbs 12oz. The docs had no idea what caused me to deliver so early. They figured it was because my uterus had reached it limits and couldn't stretch anymore to accomodate the baby. At first I accepted this answer, but later began to research the cause of low birth weight. I had no idea I had BV at the time because I had no symptoms...no odor, discharge was normal. It was weird. I figured the ob-gyn would have detected it during the routine exams and treat me for it but no one ever mentioned anything to me and I was never treated during my pregnancy. So based on my own research, I concluded that it was probably due to BV. I had a C section so I had to stay in the hospital for a few days after delivery. My son left the hospital with me with no complications, other than being tiny! 4 years later, my son is a healthy, bouncy little boy. No health issues whatsoever. smile.gif
So if you're trying to become pregnant, be sure to have your BV completely under control. If you get it while you're pregnant, make sure to have it treated promptly.
Lindsey
QUOTE(jularee @ Nov 15 2007, 07:35 AM) *
If left untreated during the pregnancy, BV can indeed cause low birth weight babies and premature delivery. I delivered my son at 35 wks and he only weighed 4lbs 12oz. The docs had no idea what caused me to deliver so early. They figured it was because my uterus had reached it limits and couldn't stretch anymore to accomodate the baby. At first I accepted this answer, but later began to research the cause of low birth weight. I had no idea I had BV at the time because I had no symptoms...no odor, discharge was normal. It was weird. I figured the ob-gyn would have detected it during the routine exams and treat me for it but no one ever mentioned anything to me and I was never treated during my pregnancy. So based on my own research, I concluded that it was probably due to BV. I had a C section so I had to stay in the hospital for a few days after delivery. My son left the hospital with me with no complications, other than being tiny! 4 years later, my son is a healthy, bouncy little boy. No health issues whatsoever. smile.gif
So if you're trying to become pregnant, be sure to have your BV completely under control. If you get it while you're pregnant, make sure to have it treated promptly.


Wow. I am glad to hear that everything went well considering the BV. I will ask to be checked for bv through out the pregnancy. Thank you!
CanCan
QUOTE(Lindsey @ Nov 15 2007, 12:12 AM) *
I am writing down all of these things. I have read that BV will always come back within 3 months of treating it? I hope that the your formula works for you. Keep me posted on it. With the metrogel I have a different discharge now that I have started it then i did before. It is very weird... somewhat like clumped up toliet paper... but really little peices, and I feel like I am drenched. But I really am not as wet as I feel. I have also read that BV causes low birth weight and premature delievery. We have been trying to become pregnant. Do you know anything about that? Thanks!

You can get pregnant while having BV, but ya, it causes low birth weight and premature delievery. And if you get pregnant, your OBGYN will give you metronidizole cream or something. That's what I was prescribed.
Lindsey
QUOTE(CanCan @ Nov 15 2007, 02:39 PM) *
You can get pregnant while having BV, but ya, it causes low birth weight and premature delievery. And if you get pregnant, your OBGYN will give you metronidizole cream or something. That's what I was prescribed.


I am on the metronidizole cream right now. Did you deliever early and was the birth weight low if you did? Thanks!
jewelscando
Ok, so I took your advice and now take 2 of the Primadophilus Bifidus that contains 5 Billion CFC in the morning and 2 at night. And also starting inserting 1 vaginally. Smell is still there, but vary faint. I also still take 2 Folic Acid, and Upt the dose of B6 to 200 mg. I think that was a big mistake. I might be having an alergic reaction to the B6. I have a "Choking feeling" or, a "Strangling" Feeling. So, I won't be taking the B6 tonight. Going to see if it's gone tomorrow. Went to a website about B6 and it says, you should not take more then 100 mg of B6 unless under the supervision of a doctor. So.....yeah...I won't do that again! hahaha.

Anyways, smell is still there. Flagyl should arrive at the end of this month. My troubles will be over once that get's here. But, it's the waiting til then that's DRVING ME CRAZY!!
bvg
okay, i was thinking about what someone said that possibly each person is missing different strains of probiotics. so right now i am taking the rheuteri at night and the bifidus in the morning. i was going to start inserting and i don't know which one to do. can i do both? in the morning and night with the same one i am taking orally. what do you guys think. also i will be doing this while i am on my period so the day factor does not bother me as i'll be on a pad anyway.

thanks!
gonnaloseit
I just looked and my flagyl is estimated to arrive on 12/8. I had to wait 2 months from order time, yikes!! I ordered on 10/7. I was thinking it might be a joke too sad.gif for future reference, do you know what site your flagyl was ordered from since yours only took 3 weeks to come??

QUOTE(NotCatEyed @ Nov 8 2007, 01:39 AM) *
It took 3 weeks for my flagyl order to arrive. The site I used didn't even say the order was pending, so I had almost given up when it finally arrived. When it arrived the package was so small, I thought it was a joke, but it definitely was real flagyl, they just didn't waste any money on fancy packaging.
To Cancan and others, I will definitely let you know how the tumeric goes. I just got my period, so if I get BV symptoms after I stop bleeding I am going to try the tumeric. I also have found this website with recomendations about chinese herbs. Granted I'm in china, so I can maybe get these herbs easier, but I'm sure you could find a chinese herbalist in your local china town too. So here's the url:
http://www.tcmpage.com/hpinfectrepro.html

jularee
QUOTE(jewelscando @ Nov 16 2007, 02:44 AM) *
Ok, so I took your advice and now take 2 of the Primadophilus Bifidus that contains 5 Billion CFC in the morning and 2 at night. And also starting inserting 1 vaginally. Smell is still there, but vary faint. I also still take 2 Folic Acid, and Upt the dose of B6 to 200 mg. I think that was a big mistake. I might be having an alergic reaction to the B6. I have a "Choking feeling" or, a "Strangling" Feeling. So, I won't be taking the B6 tonight. Going to see if it's gone tomorrow. Went to a website about B6 and it says, you should not take more then 100 mg of B6 unless under the supervision of a doctor. So.....yeah...I won't do that again! hahaha.

Anyways, smell is still there. Flagyl should arrive at the end of this month. My troubles will be over once that get's here. But, it's the waiting til then that's DRVING ME CRAZY!!



I hope the increased probiotics work for you! Just wanted to let you know that I read somewhere that daily doses of B6 more than 100mg can cause serious nerve damage. The upper limit "safe dose" is no more than 100mg daily. Are you still having the choking feeling? Please let us know how everything is going.
jewelscando
Had the choking feeling up until last night. It seems to be subsiding today. I went off everything, inlcuding the Primadophilus. Because I'm not sure if it was from upping that, or the B6.

SMELL IS BACK WITH A VENGEANCE
CanCan
QUOTE(Lindsey @ Nov 15 2007, 11:14 PM) *
I am on the metronidizole cream right now. Did you deliever early and was the birth weight low if you did? Thanks!

I don't know if the metronidizole cream would have helped me or not - because I never got the chance to use it, I miscarried.

QUOTE(bvg @ Nov 16 2007, 09:23 AM) *
okay, i was thinking about what someone said that possibly each person is missing different strains of probiotics. so right now i am taking the rheuteri at night and the bifidus in the morning. i was going to start inserting and i don't know which one to do. can i do both? in the morning and night with the same one i am taking orally. what do you guys think. also i will be doing this while i am on my period so the day factor does not bother me as i'll be on a pad anyway.

thanks!

My opinion is that you would do the reteuri at different times you would do the bifidus. And same with it being inserted.. I would do one at night for a few days and give it a chance to work, and then see how you feel. Then you could try the other. I only inserted them at night though, because they fall out during the day. And I inserted the capsule during my period too. Because why not, menses makes your vagina less acidic, and this is when a lot of us get flare-ups. So I insert a bit of boric acid at the same time.

QUOTE(jewelscando @ Nov 17 2007, 05:39 PM) *
Had the choking feeling up until last night. It seems to be subsiding today. I went off everything, inlcuding the Primadophilus. Because I'm not sure if it was from upping that, or the B6.

SMELL IS BACK WITH A VENGEANCE

I was reading about B6 over-dose, and it says that you can get 'glossitis' which is inflammation or swelling of the tongue. That would explain the choking feeling. I hope you feel better! Kind of scary.
neverending
Hey all! I am doing well and having no problems whatsoever. The Nuvaring (birth control) is the best. I can actually enjoy sex and I also wear thongs now too. So, I am happy with everything (down there) right now. I haven't done anymore research on this but you all know me, I'm still pushing for you all to try the estroil.

HEY JEWELS!
Lindsey
QUOTE(CanCan @ Nov 19 2007, 03:48 PM) *
I don't know if the metronidizole cream would have helped me or not - because I never got the chance to use it, I miscarried.

I am sorry to hear that.
jewelscando
HI NEVERENDING!!! MISS YOU!!

Well, I told you all a few days ago that I went off of everything. The choking feeling is still there. It's bad at certain times. Not all day now, which is good. My tounge is not swollen. It's more of the feeling of someones hands wrapped around my neck and squeezing and my heads going to pop. Although I don't have a headache. BUT... now my smell is gone. Why is that? I went off everything and the smell goes away. I know it's only going to be short lived, but, I'm just gald it's not here at this moment.

Neverending, I'm going to try the Estroil. Are you still using it?? The nuva ring, that's Birth Control right?? Cause, I could just see me asking my doctor for that!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.... He might want to admit me to a mental hospital!!

I still have the website you sent me on the Estroil. I'm going to order it this week, and then I'll get the instructions from you then. YOU FINALLY TALKED ME INTO IT!!! tongue.gif
jularee
Just a quick update for you ladies. I've been doing my current regimen for about a week now and so far so good. I'm taking the Primadophilus Reuteri twice a day and Garlique, a B vitamin complex, and folic acid at lunchtime. I've noticed that if i don't drink tons of water, my girly bits have a weird sweet-n-sour garlicy smell but other than that no discharge whatsoever. I hope this continues to work!
jewelscando
Happy Thanksgiving to all my fellow BV sufferers!!! I Hope you can spend 1 day, without thinking about this mess!!

Jewels....
jularee
Ladies,
I hope you all have a wonderful Thanksgiving.
britt8705
Hey everyone, I hope u all had a great Thanksgiving! Will someone PLZ tell me what this Estroil is all about and where can I get some. THANKS!!
neverending
QUOTE(jewelscando @ Nov 20 2007, 02:57 AM) *
HI NEVERENDING!!! MISS YOU!!

Well, I told you all a few days ago that I went off of everything. The choking feeling is still there. It's bad at certain times. Not all day now, which is good. My tounge is not swollen. It's more of the feeling of someones hands wrapped around my neck and squeezing and my heads going to pop. Although I don't have a headache. BUT... now my smell is gone. Why is that? I went off everything and the smell goes away. I know it's only going to be short lived, but, I'm just gald it's not here at this moment.

Neverending, I'm going to try the Estroil. Are you still using it?? The nuva ring, that's Birth Control right?? Cause, I could just see me asking my doctor for that!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.... He might want to admit me to a mental hospital!!

I still have the website you sent me on the Estroil. I'm going to order it this week, and then I'll get the instructions from you then. YOU FINALLY TALKED ME INTO IT!!! tongue.gif


Hey Jewels!!! I'm not using anything anymore. Not even the vitamins. I came to a conclusion last night. The Lo/Ovral (birth control) I was on many years ago, lowered the estrogen in my body which was bad but the Nuvaring releases low doses of estrogen to the body through the vagina and I've read that estrogen helps lactobacilla (sp?) to grow. The Estroil got rid of the BV but I still had problems with dry vagina, but now after being put on the Nuvaring everything is GREAT. You all don't know how embarrassing it is to always have to use lubricate with your partner because you can't get uhm........wet? on your own. Not to mention lubricate is to damn thick and is nothing like your own juice. IT SUCKED! Anyway, Jewels if I were you I would still explain to the Doc that you would like to try the Nuvaring just to see if it would help you any at all. I bet it would! If you are too shy to ask then I would suggest trying the Estroil because me and one other person got rid of this crap with estroil, and to the other person who said they also had dry vagina problems I say NUVARING, NUVARING, NUVARING. You all know I've never been an advocate of birth control but this one is good because it does not take away estrogen it adds low doses to the body.

As far as research goes, I've looked into mycoplasma, ureaplasma and many others for you all but I have not come up with anything new. I really don't think any of the girls here have any of that because I think everyone (I've read) has been tested for EVERYTHING. So, I don't think those things are problems but what I do think everyone here has is hormonal problems much like I did. No amount of flagel, metro gel, cleocin, etc is going to help when your hormones are screwed. That is why the BV keeps coming back. Anyway, I hope all is well. Let me know if anything helps and never give up.
Love always,
neverending
CanCan
QUOTE(neverending @ Nov 24 2007, 11:24 AM) *
Hey Jewels!!! I'm not using anything anymore. Not even the vitamins. I came to a conclusion last night. The Lo/Ovral (birth control) I was on many years ago, lowered the estrogen in my body which was bad but the Nuvaring releases low doses of estrogen to the body through the vagina and I've read that estrogen helps lactobacilla (sp?) to grow. The Estroil got rid of the BV but I still had problems with dry vagina, but now after being put on the Nuvaring everything is GREAT. You all don't know how embarrassing it is to always have to use lubricate with your partner because you can't get uhm........wet? on your own. Not to mention lubricate is to damn thick and is nothing like your own juice. IT SUCKED! Anyway, Jewels if I were you I would still explain to the Doc that you would like to try the Nuvaring just to see if it would help you any at all. I bet it would! If you are too shy to ask then I would suggest trying the Estroil because me and one other person got rid of this crap with estroil, and to the other person who said they also had dry vagina problems I say NUVARING, NUVARING, NUVARING. You all know I've never been an advocate of birth control but this one is good because it does not take away estrogen it adds low doses to the body.

As far as research goes, I've looked into mycoplasma, ureaplasma and many others for you all but I have not come up with anything new. I really don't think any of the girls here have any of that because I think everyone (I've read) has been tested for EVERYTHING. So, I don't think those things are problems but what I do think everyone here has is hormonal problems much like I did. No amount of flagel, metro gel, cleocin, etc is going to help when your hormones are screwed. That is why the BV keeps coming back. Anyway, I hope all is well. Let me know if anything helps and never give up.
Love always,
neverending

I really want to try using the Nuvaring, but it's birth control right? I want to get pregnant. I wish there was a nuvaring that was just a hormone balancer.. Or maybe the thing to do would be to try the Nuvaring, and then go off of it in a few months.
jularee
Have any of you ladies ever tried Kefir as a probiotic supplement? Is it worth trying?
neverending
QUOTE(CanCan @ Nov 24 2007, 06:57 PM) *
I really want to try using the Nuvaring, but it's birth control right? I want to get pregnant. I wish there was a nuvaring that was just a hormone balancer.. Or maybe the thing to do would be to try the Nuvaring, and then go off of it in a few months.


Oh hun! I have no clue. Call your doctor/ RN to see if this might be a good option for you. Even if you get pregnant now, I hate to say it but BV can cause you to have a miscarriage. So, it would be best to clear up the infection before thinking of having a baby if you can. I understand how you feel though. I've been married for almost 6yrs. now and we (my husband and I) do not have children.
arj75
Good Morning everyone...I used goldenseal for three weeks. I started my period 10 days early..so now my cycle is every 21 days (but it only lasted for 5 days) and I think its back on schedule of when it normally was . Anyways..the funk was back (as expected). I first tried to douche with applecider vinegar and it made the funk 10 times worse. So...I'm taking metro-gel again..until I can come up with a new battle plan. I'm really disapointed because it's been almost 8 weeks since I have even had sex... so I can't even blame it on that. I think I have a yeast infection too. I have a prescription (already filled) of the difflican (or however its spelled) I'm itching and burning..and I usually just have discharge and the rotten smell when the bv returns. When is the best time to take difflican..is it right after I finish my metro-gel..or should I wait a couple days? The yeast creams burn my vagina up.. I can't use it.
I also have a prescription of the Nuvaring..that I never got filled..but it was written a few months ago..do those precriptions expire if not filled within 30 days? Or do I have to go back to the doctor and get another precription? It's worth a shot I guess..nothing else has helped.

Another stupid question..as I have never taken birth control..and really wish that was why I can't get rid of this crap...but is the ring comfortable? Can your partner feel that inside of you? How far do you place it inside of you ..and do you keep it in the whole month..or remove it during your period?

Neverending..not meaning to pry..but has it helped you feel any better emotionally? I don't have problems with vaginal dryness...never really have..but my periods are all screwed up..maybe this will help... I'm tired of smelling like a rotten fish. I got a nice wiff of it as I was getting ready to take one of my finals..and of course that was all I could think about during the whole test.

P.S. I can't find boric acid anywhere.. not in my town.. is this something I find in the rodent and pest control isle at Walmart? lol I try not to order things off line..(victim of Identity theft) unless I have too.....

The only good news is I can sleep at night now..with medication..and I have much relief from the anxiety attacks.
mfc10
QUOTE(arj75 @ Nov 27 2007, 10:29 AM) *
P.S. I can't find boric acid anywhere.. not in my town.. is this something I find in the rodent and pest control isle at Walmart? lol I try not to order things off line..(victim of Identity theft) unless I have too.....

The only good news is I can sleep at night now..with medication..and I have much relief from the anxiety attacks.


Arj: I have been able to buy boric acid at pharmacies sometimes--especially "Mom & Pop" type drugstores. ask the pharmacist. If you use it vaginally (placed into empty capsules first), it'll get rid of the yeast infection & the BV, at least for awhile. (For me, neither infection has ever been back after using boric acid, & it's been well over a year and 1/2. But what I did was to use a portion of a tee-tree oil suppository vaginally 3 times/week for several weeks after using the boric acid in order to maintain the good situation. tee tree oil is effective against both BV & yeast, but won't harm the good bacteria.) To maintain the good vaginal environment, I use a little Estrace (prescription estrogen cream) every other day vaginally. On alternate days, I use Sylk lubricant since it has a pH of 4.7. I also use progesterone cream on my body since I am just into menopause. Oh--and I take Femdophilus!

Best wishes!
maggie
neverending
QUOTE(arj75 @ Nov 27 2007, 03:29 PM) *
Good Morning everyone...I used goldenseal for three weeks. I started my period 10 days early..so now my cycle is every 21 days (but it only lasted for 5 days) and I think its back on schedule of when it normally was . Anyways..the funk was back (as expected). I first tried to douche with applecider vinegar and it made the funk 10 times worse. So...I'm taking metro-gel again..until I can come up with a new battle plan. I'm really disapointed because it's been almost 8 weeks since I have even had sex... so I can't even blame it on that. I think I have a yeast infection too. I have a prescription (already filled) of the difflican (or however its spelled) I'm itching and burning..and I usually just have discharge and the rotten smell when the bv returns. When is the best time to take difflican..is it right after I finish my metro-gel..or should I wait a couple days? The yeast creams burn my vagina up.. I can't use it.
I also have a prescription of the Nuvaring..that I never got filled..but it was written a few months ago..do those precriptions expire if not filled within 30 days? Or do I have to go back to the doctor and get another precription? It's worth a shot I guess..nothing else has helped.

Another stupid question..as I have never taken birth control..and really wish that was why I can't get rid of this crap...but is the ring comfortable? Can your partner feel that inside of you? How far do you place it inside of you ..and do you keep it in the whole month..or remove it during your period?

Neverending..not meaning to pry..but has it helped you feel any better emotionally? I don't have problems with vaginal dryness...never really have..but my periods are all screwed up..maybe this will help... I'm tired of smelling like a rotten fish. I got a nice wiff of it as I was getting ready to take one of my finals..and of course that was all I could think about during the whole test.

P.S. I can't find boric acid anywhere.. not in my town.. is this something I find in the rodent and pest control isle at Walmart? lol I try not to order things off line..(victim of Identity theft) unless I have too.....

The only good news is I can sleep at night now..with medication..and I have much relief from the anxiety attacks.


1. You can't feel the ring at all. I don't even know it's in at all.Comfortable=YES
2.My husband felt it the first time we had sex (which is odd because I didn't feel anything) but after that he said he didn't feel the ring. The ring is not hard at all, it's like plastic or something and its very flexible.
3. You put the ring in as far as it will go. you wear it for 21 days and then take it out for a week so you can have your period.
4. Emotionally, I still feel like crap. Having dealt with this for years, it has ruined my self esteem and I don't think I will ever get that back. I love to be by myself, I don't like most people because I realize how Immature/ fickle/cruel people can be. I'm not as nice as I use to be, I'm always on the edge, and anxiety is ruining my life. It would not be as bad if I had a support system but I have no one but a husband who does not know how to deal with my MANY nervous breakdowns. I've never been so lonely in my life. Oh and counseling SUCKS! I'd much rather self medicate. She didn't tell me anything I didn't already know (self esteem problems/ AS WELL AS FAMILY PROBLEMS) and she didn't help with to much of anything. Now, WHERE CAN I BUY XANAX, VALIUM, OR ANY OTHER ANXIETY, OR DEPRESSION MEDICATION?
CanCan
QUOTE(neverending @ Nov 27 2007, 09:45 PM) *
1. You can't feel the ring at all. I don't even know it's in at all.Comfortable=YES
2.My husband felt it the first time we had sex (which is odd because I didn't feel anything) but after that he said he didn't feel the ring. The ring is not hard at all, it's like plastic or something and its very flexible.
3. You put the ring in as far as it will go. you wear it for 21 days and then take it out for a week so you can have your period.
4. Emotionally, I still feel like crap. Having dealt with this for years, it has ruined my self esteem and I don't think I will ever get that back. I love to be by myself, I don't like most people because I realize how Immature/ fickle/cruel people can be. I'm not as nice as I use to be, I'm always on the edge, and anxiety is ruining my life. It would not be as bad if I had a support system but I have no one but a husband who does not know how to deal with my MANY nervous breakdowns. I've never been so lonely in my life. Oh and counseling SUCKS! I'd much rather self medicate. She didn't tell me anything I didn't already know (self esteem problems/ AS WELL AS FAMILY PROBLEMS) and she didn't help with to much of anything. Now, WHERE CAN I BUY XANAX, VALIUM, OR ANY OTHER ANXIETY, OR DEPRESSION MEDICATION?

If it makes you feel any better, believe me when I say we all know how you feel, and can relate. My life has certainly been affected by this infection. Everyday I am popping a Theanine or a Trytophan, or going to bed with a Valerian Root pill. I wish relaxing wasn't so hard.
arj75
QUOTE(neverending @ Nov 27 2007, 10:45 PM) *
Emotionally, I still feel like crap. Having dealt with this for years, it has ruined my self esteem and I don't think I will ever get that back. I love to be by myself, I don't like most people because I realize how Immature/ fickle/cruel people can be. I'm not as nice as I use to be, I'm always on the edge, and anxiety is ruining my life. It would not be as bad if I had a support system but I have no one but a husband who does not know how to deal with my MANY nervous breakdowns. I've never been so lonely in my life. Oh and counseling SUCKS! I'd much rather self medicate. She didn't tell me anything I didn't already know (self esteem problems/ AS WELL AS FAMILY PROBLEMS) and she didn't help with to much of anything. Now, WHERE CAN I BUY XANAX, VALIUM, OR ANY OTHER ANXIETY, OR DEPRESSION MEDICATION?


I'm sorry Neverending...I know the lonely feeling..and it sucks...I don't have much of a support system either. Counseling...waste of my time too. So..your suffering from anxiety and depression? If you have insurance, just go to the doctor and pour out yur guts..I'm sure he/she will give you something for the anxiety..Xanax and Valium are more of a short term or fast acting relief for aniexty. I know that there are many other medications to control aniexty on a long term basis..but I currently don't have any insurance..and xanax aren't that expensive. As far as all the many medications for depression..its basically trial and error, and after my near death experience with the prozac..I have no intentions of trying anything else at this time. I tried all the natural remedies for insomnia and anxiety... but nothing worked for me..but...that's just me. I'm sure I'm depressed too..I just don't have the time to even deal with it. Or maybe not.....I can't cry..so I'm not sure if thats good or bad since I used to be a very emotional person...I just feel pissed off alllllll the time....
anitsirhc
so i went to the doctor today because i had insane itching and burning. and she told me she thinks i have trich and not bv. so i'm taking metronidazole AGAIN. but, i'm taking 4 500mg pills orally all at once. 2g of it... i'm so scared i'm going to get sick. because it's made me throw up before. i was taking 500mg 3 times a day and that made me sick. now i'm taking 4 of them all at once. sad.gif so wish me luck, i'm going to be eating a lot of yogurt and taking the primodophilus reuteri so hopefully maybe this works even though it probably won't. hope everyone else is doing well...

there were other people taking the primadophilus right? is it working for anyone?
neverending
QUOTE(arj75 @ Nov 29 2007, 12:11 AM) *
I'm sorry Neverending...I know the lonely feeling..and it sucks...I don't have much of a support system either. Counseling...waste of my time too. So..your suffering from anxiety and depression? If you have insurance, just go to the doctor and pour out yur guts..I'm sure he/she will give you something for the anxiety..Xanax and Valium are more of a short term or fast acting relief for aniexty. I know that there are many other medications to control aniexty on a long term basis..but I currently don't have any insurance..and xanax aren't that expensive. As far as all the many medications for depression..its basically trial and error, and after my near death experience with the prozac..I have no intentions of trying anything else at this time. I tried all the natural remedies for insomnia and anxiety... but nothing worked for me..but...that's just me. I'm sure I'm depressed too..I just don't have the time to even deal with it. Or maybe not.....I can't cry..so I'm not sure if thats good or bad since I used to be a very emotional person...I just feel pissed off alllllll the time....

I'm not sure exactly what I have as far as depression or anxiety but I THINK I may have both. I tense up around people, I worry all the time, and I feel like i'm on the edge. Then somedays I just don't feel happy at all. So, I think it's both. As far as going to a doctor, FORGET IT! I wish I could buy this stuff of the internet. Anyway, I think i'm just tired. I need a change of scenery. I want to move and just start all over again but I have to finish school first.
jewelscando
I'm sorry you're feeling so bad neverending!! Everyone's right, we can all relate!!!

Well, my Flagyl finally came in today. Only took 3 FRICKEN months to get here. I'm worried that it's the wrong stuff. It says, Metronidazol Lisan. And, it's from Costa Rica. And the pills are yellow, not white. The whole package is in another language.

DAMMIT!!!!
konphusion26
OMG!!!!! I swear I thought I was free, if only for a few days. I think I'm allergic to my husband or something. Geez... Its back, funky smell and all. Discovered it when I went to the bathroom a few minutes ago. UN-friggin-believable. Can I get a break????????? I'm trying to stop using profanity but DAMN. When will it end??????
konphusion26
Sorry I hit the button too many times. I'm so out of it right now.
TOOMUCH21
HI IM NEW TO THIS SITE BUT I REALLYLOVE U GUYS FOR ALL THE HELPFUL INFO WELL I TOO SUFFER FROM BV BUT I DONT THINK ITS THT BAD THE LAST TIME I WENT TO THE DOCTOR SHE GAVE BOTH ME AND MY BOYFRIEND METRONIDAZOLE (HOWEVER U SPELL IT) BUT ANYWAYS I HAD A ROTTEN KINDA LIKE DIRTY DIAPER SMELL AT FIRST SO WAT I DID WAS ME AND HIM TOOK THE MEDICINE AND IT SEEM LIKE IT CAME BACK SO I STARTED USING THE REPHRESH AND IT SEEM LIKE IT CURED ME WELL ME AND MY BOYFRIEND HAD SEX AND HE CAME IN ME AND THE SMELL CAME BACK ITS NOT THE ROTTEN SMELL ANYMORE I CANT EVEN SMELL ON THE OUTSIDE OF MY CLOTHES ANYMORE THANK GOD BUT IT STINKS DURING SEX LIKE WERE EATIN TUNA FISH WHILE WE HAVE SEX LOL.. BUT AFTA THT I STILL CANT SMELL IT I READ ABOUT THE BORIC ACID HAS ANYONE HAD ANY LUCK WITH THT I JUS WANNA KILL THT FISH SMELL OR SHOULD I GO TO THE DOC PLEASE SOMEONE HELP I LIKE TO HAVE SEX WITH MY MAN JUST NOT WHEN I SMELL LIKE A BIG FISH BOWL DOWN THERE...
TOOMUCH21
HI IM NEW TO THIS SITE BUT I REALLYLOVE U GUYS FOR ALL THE HELPFUL INFO WELL I TOO SUFFER FROM BV BUT I DONT THINK ITS THT BAD THE LAST TIME I WENT TO THE DOCTOR SHE GAVE BOTH ME AND MY BOYFRIEND METRONIDAZOLE (HOWEVER U SPELL IT) BUT ANYWAYS I HAD A ROTTEN KINDA LIKE DIRTY DIAPER SMELL AT FIRST SO WAT I DID WAS ME AND HIM TOOK THE MEDICINE AND IT SEEM LIKE IT CAME BACK SO I STARTED USING THE REPHRESH AND IT SEEM LIKE IT CURED ME WELL ME AND MY BOYFRIEND HAD SEX AND HE CAME IN ME AND THE SMELL CAME BACK ITS NOT THE ROTTEN SMELL ANYMORE I CANT EVEN SMELL ON THE OUTSIDE OF MY CLOTHES ANYMORE THANK GOD BUT IT STINKS DURING SEX LIKE WERE EATIN TUNA FISH WHILE WE HAVE SEX LOL.. BUT AFTA THT I STILL CANT SMELL IT I READ ABOUT THE BORIC ACID HAS ANYONE HAD ANY LUCK WITH THT I JUS WANNA KILL THT FISH SMELL OR SHOULD I GO TO THE DOC PLEASE SOMEONE HELP I LIKE TO HAVE SEX WITH MY MAN JUST NOT WHEN I SMELL LIKE A BIG FISH BOWL DOWN THERE...
fbgirl987
Hi...I too have had BV for months now. It started with what I thought was yeast from Antibiotics. I took Diflucan and it didnt COMPLETELY clear up. Long story short- went to GYN, went on Clindesse....am now trying herbal supplements and a steriod cream which helps sometimes.
My question is does BV cause pain and irritation for you women? I am finding myself very irritated by jeans or restricted clothes. unsure.gif

God, I am so sick of this. Nothing takes it away completely....I have been dealing with depression as a result of this crap. mad.gif
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