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angdjones
Hi Ladies!! Happy Friday! Just thought I would let you guys know how the Fem-Dophilus was working out. When I started taking them the first day I had stopped the regular Acidophilus..within 1 day..it was back..the discharge and smell!..Oh how frustrated I was!!..Especially after spending the 25 dollars at the vitamin store. I continued taking 1 capsule twicw daily but started taking them with 1 capsule of the Acidophilus. It seemed like when I stopped the Acidophilus that everything took a turn for the worse. After taking the Acidophilus with the Fem-dophilus things are great..except for a little bit of discharge but I can deal with that for now since it doesn't SMELL!! Now I'm just trying to find something for the discharge...it's very little and doesn't smell, I don't itch or burn...any suggestions will be great...I know the Fem-dophilus probably takes awhile to start working but I didn't want to wait..without my Acidophilus things just start smelling again...I might quit the Fem-dophilus after the bottle is gone..the capsules smell like burnt trash and are very expensive...Hope all is well ladies!! Take care! wink.gif
kristen
QUOTE(SpRiNkLeS @ Jan 24 2008, 10:15 PM) *
My vagina hates me. And damnit I treat her so well too!!!

So i am new here i hope i am doing this posting thing right... we will soon find out. Any way i have been reading this for like a few weeks now i have pretty much read all of it as far back as it dates. more than anything it makes me hopeless, looks like i will be struggling with a stink puss forever. well my story, not as long and ya'lls... i guess about 6 monthes ago maybe a couple more something just struck me as not quite right... but it took a while before i was realy like this is not normal. but fish smell blah blah nasty discharge crap you know the story went to the doc told me it was yeast i told her no i'm pretty sure its not, she insisted so i took the meds forgot what there were now and of course it didn't really help. then like a week or two later i get a bladder infection so i go to doc and he treats me for that and then yeast again... still same shit. and i went on for quite a while no doctors no meds... no sex. most of the time it really is't that bad. after the initial nasty as hell fishy smell its mostly just like musty kinda sweaty smelling almost with a discharge not to bad sometimes not at all but alway the smell is not quite right. so anway like 6 weeks ago i went to doc again knowing this shit is not right and he does no exam no test and just says i think you have bv. i was so happy to hear this becase by this time i had been doing some reseach. thinking i had the answer i took the meds... that antibiotic you can't take with alcohol. cant remember name made me sick ad hell stopped taking it. so since then have not been to doc but have been doing my homework and found ya'll. so i searched all over the internet found femanol... sounded good couldn't find a bad revirew hard as i tried. but this was before i read all this stuff. it did work... for a couple days till i had sex... twice. then you know the story back to hell. been taking it like crazy trying to get the same effect it gave me the first week. and now here i am... this was in like the past two weeks. i ordered some stuff off rockwellnutrition after reading ya'll posts i'll see what happens but mosty i just wanted to make a post so i could start asking questions and fixing this shit.. NOW!!! my boyfriend and i are really having a hard time he does not know about any of this i am to embarassed to tell him but he can't figure out what is wrong with me or if i think there is something wrong with him and its really wearing on us, the lack of sex thing.. i dont know how much longer it will last been more than six monthes like this already. well someone hit me back i got lots to say
kristen
ok so i know this is back to back, but you met me now lets get down to business. i have been doing alot of reading lately but i will get into that later. now i have a question, i am fairly new to this bv thing compared to some of you veterans. my last couple period have been different well than before all this crap started. have ya'lls changed since this started, there is still blood coming out but what comes out now is not at all like what used to come out, there i said it now someone gimme some insight
yme30
QUOTE(kristen @ Jan 26 2008, 11:33 PM) *
ok so i know this is back to back, but you met me now lets get down to business. i have been doing alot of reading lately but i will get into that later. now i have a question, i am fairly new to this bv thing compared to some of you veterans. my last couple period have been different well than before all this crap started. have ya'lls changed since this started, there is still blood coming out but what comes out now is not at all like what used to come out, there i said it now someone gimme some insight



Hi Kristen, my periods have always remained the same for as long as I've battled with BV. Like Sprinkles suggested I strongly believe it has something to do with a hormonal imbalance and possibly our period. Because I noticed by BV occurred the same year of my period and at the time I was a virgin. So I just couldn't believe how a young girl who hasn't been embalmed with dirty sperm could get BV and battle it for well over ten years now???

But to answer your question my periods have remained the same when I would get BV. I have always had heavy periods that last for seven days and now that I sporadically take birth control pills to keep my period in check I noticed that my cycle is way off which is only probably aggravating my BV even more.
SpRiNkLeS
QUOTE(kristen @ Jan 26 2008, 11:33 PM) *
my last couple period have been different well than before all this crap started. have ya'lls changed since this started, there is still blood coming out but what comes out now is not at all like what used to come out, there i said it now someone gimme some insight


Hi Kristen! Heh, you totally sound like me when I first found this place, I wanted to chat with everyone here about BV because I was sooooooooooo excited there were others like me. Only I waited a while to actually introduce myself. Well the crazy thing about this whole BV thing is that I was actually HAPPY whenever my period would come because whenever my period came the funk smells would go away completely. It was like a little bit of freedom. UNFORTUNATELY times have changed and now that only happens the first two days of my period, after that it’s the usual ammonia, fish, shit, sour milk, McDonald’s French fries……..etc. OR very rarely a garbage can. Also I am blessed with heavy, long periods.

If your BV odor isn’t THAT bad and you have not been battling this for TOO long I’d say you still have a good chance at getting rid of BV for good before you get in the recurrent mess that I’m in. The longer you have it the harder it is to get rid of. I made the mistake of thinking my BV was just part of pregnancy (it was very faint back then) and when I asked the doctor what the discharge was he said it was normal during the third trimester. Stupid A$$. If I had actually treated it when it first came (although a little riskier because of pregnancy) I think I could have possibly killed it completely. OR who knows maybe because my hormones are so dang retarded I was destined to battle this forever. All I know is that I waited a whole year of having weird discharge and faint unusual odors before I actually went to an OBGYN because I assumed it was the fluctuating hormones that everyone talks about during and after pregnancy....well, minus the doc who delivered my son. Ew, I still cringe when thinking about that man. I got some horror stories there.

Beware though, some antibiotics may irriate the BV and make it worse. At least for me.

Angdjones: The discharge is really bugging me too. Thankgoodness I haven't delt with much of any odor lately so then of course I have the discharge to focus on and I am getting really tired of wrapping my underwear with toilet paper! Toilet paper doesn't exactly come cheap these days! If you find out anything let me know.

Hi Yme! How's everything?
kristen
ya'll reply fast.. i'm suprised. Didn't quite get the answer i was looking for but an answer none the less. my periods are short and light always have been, so like one more day and we will see what happens with the bv. plus i got a package of fire power coming from rockwell. should be here in the middle of the week everything i try is new to me so lets see what happens, if no luck i will try the tto sounds like all have had luck of some sort with that and it doesn't sound so expensive. i haven't read anything about it yet. pretty much i dont care how much it costs if i can start having sex again and get back to a regular life with my boyfriend it would be worth it. that led me to a question. alot of you ladies have mentioned how some mens sperm botherd you and otherd did not. after you have gotten your bv in check have you been able to get with the guys that bother you with no problem. my boyfriend bothers me sad.gif
jewelscando
QUOTE(kristen @ Jan 27 2008, 06:14 PM) *
ya'll reply fast.. i'm suprised. Didn't quite get the answer i was looking for but an answer none the less. my periods are short and light always have been, so like one more day and we will see what happens with the bv. plus i got a package of fire power coming from rockwell. should be here in the middle of the week everything i try is new to me so lets see what happens, if no luck i will try the tto sounds like all have had luck of some sort with that and it doesn't sound so expensive. i haven't read anything about it yet. pretty much i dont care how much it costs if i can start having sex again and get back to a regular life with my boyfriend it would be worth it. that led me to a question. alot of you ladies have mentioned how some mens sperm botherd you and otherd did not. after you have gotten your bv in check have you been able to get with the guys that bother you with no problem. my boyfriend bothers me sad.gif


It has to do with their sperm. My ex, causes my b.v. My new guy, does not. However, I have re-occuring B.V. so now it doesn't matter who I sleep with. Some have suggested using condoms, to prevent the sperm from entering and causing an inbalance. If you have true re-occuring B.V., the name of the game is PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE. That's all you can do until there's a cure. My Preventative Maintenance is Tea Tree Oil. It's still working for me. And I only have to use one suppossitory, the day after sex.

Still no signs of B.V. on my end. The TTO has been a godsend.
kristen
here i am new and blowing up the board, anyway from all that i have read the problems resulting in bv are to much bad bacteria not enough good and the vagina not being acidic enough. i know there is not alot of ways to kill all the bad bacteria without killing all or most of the good so my thinking is do what you can to bump up the good bacteria and let them go to work but the acid thing i'm not sure how to deal with that. how can i incread the ph or is it decreas i can't ever remember, point being i need an acid pussy. my way of thinking is hit both the problems and you should have sucess. i do agree with the ladies here who are sure its a hormone thing i feel the same. here is my thing though. i started feeling not quite right down there before i ever started any kind of birth control. it was like 2 monthes of this and having some amount of symptoms but not all the time, then i started bc and truly did not see any change in either direction. how many of us are on birth control or have taken it. did you start noticing any change in the bv when you took the bc or did not. shouldn't bc be regulating out hormones maybe changing bc would make a difference. any ideas. i'm hopeful after what sprinkles said about having a good chance of stopping this since it has not been going on that long. i really have not tried anything this is all new i tried some antibiotics that made me way to sick to ever finish tried femanol with really no effect so ladies tell me what is the next step. what do you recomend i try next
mfc10
QUOTE(kristen @ Jan 27 2008, 04:47 PM) *
here i am new and blowing up the board, anyway from all that i have read the problems resulting in bv are to much bad bacteria not enough good and the vagina not being acidic enough. i know there is not alot of ways to kill all the bad bacteria without killing all or most of the good so my thinking is do what you can to bump up the good bacteria and let them go to work but the acid thing i'm not sure how to deal with that. how can i incread the ph or is it decreas i can't ever remember,


You need to decrease the pH from alkaline levels to acidic levels. Ideally, the vaginal pH should be about 4.5. I use SYLK lubricant (available online), which has a pH of 4.7, which is the best on the market. (I tested the pH myself, and it is 4.7.) Most lubricants' pHs are over 5, which isn't acidic enough to provide a hospitable environment for the good lactobacilli.
It is the semen, to be more specific (rather than the sperm itself), that increases one's vaginal pH. If condoms are out of the question for you, try loading up the vagina with SYLK before & after intercourse! wink.gif

Maggie-the-Chem Professor
kristen
this only leads me to more questions... how many other womon use sylk? and how do i test the ph myself? i never have had it tested at all is there a good test i can get at the store now you have me curious. also this being a lube sounds good because the last few monthes i have been alot dryer then ever before and i know it has something to do with this bv that is common right? my boyfriend has been suggesting we use something we can both be happy with this.
kristen
i just read it again you meant you tested the sylk, is there a test for the ph of the cooch that i can get at the store?
mfc10
QUOTE(kristen @ Jan 27 2008, 05:45 PM) *
i just read it again you meant you tested the sylk, is there a test for the ph of the cooch that i can get at the store?


You are right; I tested the Sylk in my lab at college. I believe you can buy pH paper at some pharmacies; if not, it can be purchased online. There are also "dipstick"-like pH things you can get online. I think there's a testing kit out now in drugstores that tests pH to determine whether one's infection is more likely to be BV than yeast. Anyone know the brand?
The Sylk is also condom-compatible. I love it!!

Maggie
kristen
i checked out the sylk online, its more expensive that i thought it would be specially if i have to "load my vagina" as you said. i guess not to bad compared to other lubes and such. i just never had to use that stuff before always been on the sloppy wet side myself, well not anymore. But anyway if it works then it will be well worth it i'm going to order some in a couple days.
CarrieBradshaw
QUOTE(mg86 @ Jan 25 2008, 08:09 PM) *
Carrie - how is the fem-d going?? I am probably going to get some more this weekend. I want to try inserting them again but that one weird smell I had this week makes me think twice..Maybe it is worth it..at least there was no BV smell then..LOL


The FemD is going well. I'm pairing it with regular Acidophilus tablets as well. Still no BV......I'm also doing more preventative stuff like wearing no undies at home/to bed, wearing only cotton undies, no thongs, and I'm trying to wear only cotton workout clothes (sad.gif Which sucks because the spandex capris are so freaking cute!). Anyways, things are going well. I plan to just keeping taking the FemD and Acidophilus pills forever. sad.gif Expensive.

I've been reading The V Book a lot as it was recommended on here. I kind of forgot what my natural discharge was like. I think I've been jaded by all this BV crap and any ounce of wetness I feel I think "Oh crap! The BV is back!" I think I've become overly-sensitive to how it feels down there. sad.gif Hopefully that will pass with time. Anyways, back to my original point, I was reading in the V Book about how discharge is supposed to look/feel and how it increases and decreases during our cycle. I was kinda scared this weekend cuz I had an increase in discharge, but according to the V Book, days 14-16 are the highest days for discharge (which is where I was at! smile.gif ). It's still all clear, slightly white-ish sometimes (nothing like BV blinding white though) so I'm pretty happy. I'm feeling pretty darn healthy.

I kind of wonder if FemD increases your natural discharge or not? Just because of all the good bacteria you got going on in there. LOL.

Have a great day everyone!
quietmadness
I'm still doing the boric/tto regularly, but I'm really getting tired of shoving shit up there all the time....SO, I'm ordering the fem-dophilus from Vitacost. They seem to have the cheapest prices, plus, they take Paypal.

I'll let y'all know how it goes.

--Quiet--
konphusion26
Okay I dont think the TTO is agreeing with my lady bits. Maybe I'm allergic to it. I think its too strong for me, even just a few drops and diluting it with a lil water before inserting. I'm telling you gals, its making me cramp like a son of a b**** , and i've even been spotting the last few days. Its in no way shape or form time for my period. I'm so confused and frustrated. Oh and by the way, it did nothing for my odor at all. So now I smell like turpentine and spoiled buttermilk. Lovely aroma!! I messed around and knocked over half the bottle the other night in the bathroom (i'm a clutz)- so now not only does my kitty smell like turpentine, so does my bathroom! GAAAAAAH!!! Guess its back to the drawing board. I really don't know what else to do yall. I'm with you on that one Quiet, I'm sick of shoving crap in there and sick of wearing panty liners. I should invest stock into Carefree!

BY THE WAY: Just ordered some Fem-Dophilus and some black cohosh (for homones) today from Swansonvitamins.com Got the whole order pretty cheap too!! yall should check it out.
CarrieBradshaw
QUOTE(quietmadness @ Jan 28 2008, 12:46 PM) *
I'm still doing the boric/tto regularly, but I'm really getting tired of shoving shit up there all the time....SO, I'm ordering the fem-dophilus from Vitacost. They seem to have the cheapest prices, plus, they take Paypal.

I'll let y'all know how it goes.

--Quiet--


I ordered mine from iherb.com recently and it was super cheap (14 dollars I think) and it came in 4 days in this styrofoam container thing wrapped in ice packs -- definitely still cold! I recommend them! Good luck!! I'm with ya too - I hate jamming stuff up there that wasn't meant to go up there!!!!!! smile.gif
CanCan
QUOTE(mfc10 @ Jan 27 2008, 04:26 PM) *
You need to decrease the pH from alkaline levels to acidic levels. Ideally, the vaginal pH should be about 4.5. I use SYLK lubricant (available online), which has a pH of 4.7, which is the best on the market. (I tested the pH myself, and it is 4.7.) Most lubricants' pHs are over 5, which isn't acidic enough to provide a hospitable environment for the good lactobacilli.
It is the semen, to be more specific (rather than the sperm itself), that increases one's vaginal pH. If condoms are out of the question for you, try loading up the vagina with SYLK before & after intercourse! wink.gif

Maggie-the-Chem Professor

I have been using SYLK for a three months now, and I use it before and after sex. I use it every day at night before bedtime, whether or not I am having sex. I think out of all the lubricants out there, so far it is the best one.

I don't use condoms with my boyfriend, because I find it gives me too much friction which is bad for me. But if anyone out there is going to use them, just be careful because some lubes and/or spermicides may have Nonoxynol-9 or other chemicals when can kill off the benefical bacteria in your vagina. Actually, may even irritate mucous membranes in certain people. Which can exacerbate the BV or even make us susceptible to other infections. SYLK is not a bactericide.
CanCan
QUOTE(kristen @ Jan 27 2008, 04:45 PM) *
i just read it again you meant you tested the sylk, is there a test for the ph of the cooch that i can get at the store?


I just looked at Lor's blog, and she has this listed to test ph:

[ http://www.drugstore.com/products/prod.asp...Y-PLST-0-SEARCH ]

I think there is another one too, I have heard of it and will look for it later. Sometimes it is hard to do the ph test because if you are really dry down there, like I am, it is hard to get enough liquid to put on the strip of paper! They are called 'AlkaMax Alkaline Booster pH Test Papers'.
CanCan
These are the other test kits for BV off of Lori's blog.

[ http://www.fem-v.com/ ]

[ http://vagisilkit.com/kit2/index.shtml ]

And here is the link to Lori's blog, if any of you want to read it for yourself:
[ http://www.bust.com/lounge/index.php?autom...;blogid=11& ]
konphusion26
Anybody ever ended up with PID (pelvic inflammatory disease) from BV? I've been reading alot about that and untreated bv. Maybe I'm a hypochondriac (sp?)... Any thoughts on PID?
kristen
thanks for the tips guys i think i will head to the drug store and see what i can find first, i'm very curious what the ph of my vagina is. just seems if a had another definitive answer to something it would give me a for sure thing i need to work on. meanwhile i should be getting all my stuff from rockwell like tomorrow or so... wish me luck i'm jumping off the cliff of "jamming stuff up there"
Bella10
Hi all just got back from the gyn and she examined me, said my ph is 4.0, said everything looks good and no signs of infection. She took a culture and the results will be back Thurs afternoon so keep your fingers crossed. Last month I had no symptoms and my culture came back positive for Gardernella bacteria so we'll see.
debi
There are so many things we have to deal with! Personally, What is this boric acid for smell? WOW! Can anyone explain this to me?
jewelscando
I'm so sorry that some of your are not having any luck with the Tea Tree Oil. But this is just a fine example of what works for me, may not work for you and vice versa.

I don't have the problem with the "turpentine" smell, so, maybe you should try a different brand??? Also, I think you can order them online as well. I can relate to the smell, but it's not so bad to where I can't stand it. And I have no signs of the B.V. what so ever. I don't have periods either, so, there couldn't be any spotting for me.

All I can suggest is you keep trying. But whatever you try, give it time to work. Because if you shove a bunch of stuff up there, you won't be able to pin point what's working, and what's not.

Also, Debi, Boric Acid is just another form to help control the B.V. You can read about it on Lori's blog, or go through the posts. It's not a cure. It just helps with the horrible smell of B.V.

DO NOT USE IT, if you are alergic to any sulfer type products.

Good Luck everyone!
yme30
QUOTE(Bella10 @ Jan 29 2008, 11:45 PM) *
Hi all just got back from the gyn and she examined me, said my ph is 4.0, said everything looks good and no signs of infection. She took a culture and the results will be back Thurs afternoon so keep your fingers crossed. Last month I had no symptoms and my culture came back positive for Gardernella bacteria so we'll see.



Hi Bella that is real good news for you and I hope that thursday turns out to be good news as well. How are u feeling, is your mind at ease a bit or are u still a little worried?

Hi Sprinkles I hope u post some funnies real soon laugh.gif

Konphusion I read about PID and it scares me because I have battled with BV for a long time but every year my pap comes back normal so I dont know if that is an indicator that I dont have it or not. I would like to have kids some day and I just hope that something like PID doesn't cause infertility.

Congrats to everyone on there recent success and for everyone else including me we just gotta hang in there and hopefully this whole BV stigma will soon pass. Bye everyone


Bella10
[quote name='yme30' date='Jan 30 2008, 03:34 PM' post='186893']
Hi Bella that is real good news for you and I hope that thursday turns out to be good news as well. How are u feeling, is your mind at ease a bit or are u still a little worried?

Hi YME, I am at ease in the fact that she said I look infection free but I am still worried about the culture coming back positive because that is what happened last month. But last fri I ended 10 days of flagyl so I am hoping that maybe that cleared the infection. I'm calling after work tomorrow because if I call on my lunch break and she says I still have it I don't think I can handle going back to work for the rest of the day. As it was I started crying in the Dr's office trying to explain the frustration of this. I don't know everyone I talk to is like "its common its no big deal". If they think it is no big deal I wish I can swap this with them hahahaha I also took two acidopoulous pills a day on the meds and I am continuing to do so so maybe that helped? If she says I don't have it tomorrow I am continuing to take them. I also bought the fem-d pills and have them sitting in my fridge but for some reason I am nervous to take them I don't know why. My Dr really thinks that I am having recurrent BV because I came of the pill. I have had this the last year and a half since I came off but now I am back on and the Dr said it will take 2-3 months for the hormones to really absorb in my system. I asked her to draw blood to test my hormones but she refused :-( She said they would def be normal. So we'll see.

How are you feeling? Are you finished with the amoxo? Did you go back to the Dr?
mg86
Hi everyone
Just wanted to give an update...I decided to go ahead and try Yeast Arrest...just arrived in the mail today...I have read lots of people having success with it, but the only downside is if you stop using it, it comes back. Just a WEEK relief would be great...I sometimes read on here that people went 2 or 3 months without BV and that sounds like paradise. I have had a non-stop infection. The main ingredient in Yeast Arrest is boric acid so I'm hoping it will help. I don't really have a lot of money to be throwing around on this stuff, but it is only a 2 week supply, so I will probably buy more.

The instructions say for a persistent infection: insert one capsule in the morning and one at night for 2 weeks. If it has responded but is still persistent, continue for another 2 weeks, and after that 4 days out of the month (during menstruation) for 4 months. That is not so bad.. I guess!! I'm a little worried about the weird melted pill herb boric acid smell, and also a little worried about the "leakage", but I'm single so at least I don't have to worry about anyone else seeing it...LOL

Hope everyone is doing well, BELLA I hope your culture comes back negative!! good luck! smile.gif
sassy
Mg86: Yeast arrest is the same thing as making your own boric acid capsules but much more expensive! When I went on my honeymoon in September, I took the yeast arrest for fear I might get in trouble in an airport taking a bottle of boric acid. I found that the yeast arrest worked just as well as making my own capsules, but it actually had a downside over plain boric acid...the capsules are green! I think they are green from the herbs, etc. in them but the discharge they caused stained my underwear. When I make my own capsules, the discharge is clear. I really don't want green stuff leaking out of me!
mg86
QUOTE(sassy @ Jan 31 2008, 07:07 AM) *
Mg86: Yeast arrest is the same thing as making your own boric acid capsules but much more expensive! When I went on my honeymoon in September, I took the yeast arrest for fear I might get in trouble in an airport taking a bottle of boric acid. I found that the yeast arrest worked just as well as making my own capsules, but it actually had a downside over plain boric acid...the capsules are green! I think they are green from the herbs, etc. in them but the discharge they caused stained my underwear. When I make my own capsules, the discharge is clear. I really don't want green stuff leaking out of me!


Hey sassy - yeah, I wanted to make my own but I decided to try the pre-made ones first. I used the first one last night and yeah, this morning there was a bunch of greenish stuff. LOL..it wasn't even like discharge but like herbs coming out? Not sure if that was supposed to happen. I put it in as far as I could...it sure would be helpful if they provided something to insert it with. Oh well!!
Bella10
Hi all, I called my gyn today for the culture results and everything came back normal- No BV!!! Yay I was so happy I could cry! Anyway we'll see how long this lasts. I go back 2/20 for a pap smear so she will do another culture to follow up and then I guess I'll take it from there.
yme30
QUOTE(Bella10 @ Jan 31 2008, 09:26 PM) *
Hi all, I called my gyn today for the culture results and everything came back normal- No BV!!! Yay I was so happy I could cry! Anyway we'll see how long this lasts. I go back 2/20 for a pap smear so she will do another culture to follow up and then I guess I'll take it from there.



Yeah Bella!!! I am so happy for you that is really good news I hope that it stays away for good this time.

As for me I finished the amoxo didn't use the cream as of yet because I have hardly any discharge. I am now moving on to the metro for the next two weeks and hopefully I will be BV free too, afterwards I will go back to the doctor to know my fate.

Well I better get back to bed before I officially get out of my "half sleep" stage and go to work all grouchy and snappy mad.gif
Will post soon and you too until than have a great weekend and everyone else as well. Bye all, be good.

kassie
QUOTE(kristen @ Jan 26 2008, 11:29 PM) *
So i am new here i hope i am doing this posting thing right... we will soon find out. Any way i have been reading this for like a few weeks now i have pretty much read all of it as far back as it dates. more than anything it makes me hopeless, looks like i will be struggling with a stink puss forever. well my story, not as long and ya'lls... i guess about 6 monthes ago maybe a couple more something just struck me as not quite right... but it took a while before i was realy like this is not normal. but fish smell blah blah nasty discharge crap you know the story went to the doc told me it was yeast i told her no i'm pretty sure its not, she insisted so i took the meds forgot what there were now and of course it didn't really help. then like a week or two later i get a bladder infection so i go to doc and he treats me for that and then yeast again... still same shit. and i went on for quite a while no doctors no meds... no sex. most of the time it really is't that bad. after the initial nasty as hell fishy smell its mostly just like musty kinda sweaty smelling almost with a discharge not to bad sometimes not at all but alway the smell is not quite right. so anway like 6 weeks ago i went to doc again knowing this shit is not right and he does no exam no test and just says i think you have bv. i was so happy to hear this becase by this time i had been doing some reseach. thinking i had the answer i took the meds... that antibiotic you can't take with alcohol. cant remember name made me sick ad hell stopped taking it. so since then have not been to doc but have been doing my homework and found ya'll. so i searched all over the internet found femanol... sounded good couldn't find a bad revirew hard as i tried. but this was before i read all this stuff. it did work... for a couple days till i had sex... twice. then you know the story back to hell. been taking it like crazy trying to get the same effect it gave me the first week. and now here i am... this was in like the past two weeks. i ordered some stuff off rockwellnutrition after reading ya'll posts i'll see what happens but mosty i just wanted to make a post so i could start asking questions and fixing this shit.. NOW!!! my boyfriend and i are really having a hard time he does not know about any of this i am to embarassed to tell him but he can't figure out what is wrong with me or if i think there is something wrong with him and its really wearing on us, the lack of sex thing.. i dont know how much longer it will last been more than six monthes like this already. well someone hit me back i got lots to say

I heard of a disease, the fish-odor disease, on ABC news and it seems to be my problem. It's a genetic problem, where what a person eats does not get broken down completely, namely methyline. Anyway, cutting out fish, alot of red meat, eggs, broccoli, corn, high-fiber breads, ... can help. Just study about the disease named trimethylenamuria. I had strong antibiotics, flagyl, about 10 years ago and it helped for a while. Sitting for a job, or school, changed my pH and I usually smelled. Now, I don't sit for a job and at home I sit on the carpet or rug leaning up against the couch to give me air circulation. I cut out those foods and I believe I've solved my problem. Eating yogurt with cultures helps also. Use Dove soap. Hope this helps.
neverending
There is a chat room for girls that have these problems. I thought it would be a great idea for everyone to be able to vent, talk and get to know each other a little better.That way everyone will be able to see and hear each other. This is a video chat/microphone site but you can also chat without those things. Everyone(a while agO) was saying how they would like to meet each other and I think this is a good idea. The room is locked so no one else will be able to get in there and see what we all talk about and plz keep others business confidential if you decide to visit other chat rooms on this site.

go to:
http://www.stickam.com/member/chatRoomEn.do#

look for BUST LOUNGE with the scroll bar

click enter
put in password
then click ok
hook up your webcam and mic (if you want to)
and TALK

Password: gurltalk
do not give out password


ANYWAY, I'm still doing well.
Love ya all!
Neverending
The room may be slow for probably 2wks but keep ckecking back, i'm sure this support group will get off the ground. It will take some time because some people, likeme, only check this board once every one-two weeks.
SpRiNkLeS
I think I have OCD. I do weird compulsive things sometimes but this BV paranoia has REALLY taken its toll lately. I have to sniff everything because I just cannot believe that I don’t stink!! I am like totally going schizoid! If I am out with the public and there is even the slightest funky smell in the air I always think it must be me…………..then it turns out to be something else. Have any of you ever walked by a bush that smells like snot? I was going to Babies ‘R Us and they have these bushes in the front and it totally smells like snot. I thought it was me at first and I wanted to die! Turns out it was the plants. Well I met up with my mom recently and we’ve been shopping like crazy (so much fun when you don’t have BV smells!) and I never realized just how many weird odors there are out there. You all know what I mean? Just EVERYWHERE things smell and I never took notice before until I had BV. Like you know the new smell of shoes in a shoe store? Oh gosh I LOVE that smell. Ok but anyways I walked into this store with my mom today and the most horrible stink flew up in the air and I totally freaked because I thought maybe my BV had just come back at that moment. So then I asked my mom, “Oh my gawd, do you smell that or is it just me?” And she totally smiled a bit and said, “Oh, sorry”. Lol, so she let one fly. I don’t think I’ve ever been happier that someone farted!!!! So anyway it happened again later on and once again my mom admitted that she ripped one. I just hugged her with the biggest grin and said, “Oh, thank GOD! I thought it was me!”

So I’m still on my period, officially ending day 5 I think. This has been like the most awesome period ever…..not one smell at all! HOWEVER I am totally paranoid all day long that the slightest smell is me!! Every since using MetroGel and going on BC my life has been awesome again except for the fact that I am so damn traumatized into thinking that I stink when I really don’t. I am so afraid it is going to come back after this period that I’m just like smelling my crotch all the time now!! We were at the mall and I smelled something ReALLY awful, I mean ladies IT WAS BAD. So I wheel my son (in his stroller) all the way over to one of the public benches they have and I sit down. I take one of his toys and pretend that like he kind of dropped it on the ground by my feet. Then I smell my crotch pretending to pick up the toy. Most the time when I come up grinning because my crotch is completely odorless some stranger is watching me looking scared shitless like I’m some freak who gets off smelling herself. So anyway guess what the smell was? It was coming from my son’s crotch!! Hehe, typical little toddler, he had a dirty diaper.

Ok I went to the Stickam site that Neverending recommended and I was the only one in the chat besides the host. And the host totally wouldn’t even talk to me! People JOIN!!!!!! It would be fun to chat live with you all.

And Bella……………..CONGRATS GIRL. I AM SO DAMN JEALOUS!!! I may have no smells right now but I just know the BV must still be there because I still have odorless discharge when I am not on my period. And then of course once my period gets over who knows what the heck is going to happen down there. My kitty is such a drama queen! Never a dull moment. I gotta ask though……………do you at all still get paranoid that you stink if you smell something weird when you are out with people?
SpRiNkLeS
QUOTE(kassie @ Feb 1 2008, 03:17 PM) *
I heard of a disease, the fish-odor disease, on ABC news and it seems to be my problem. It's a genetic problem, where what a person eats does not get broken down completely, namely methyline. Anyway, cutting out fish, alot of red meat, eggs, broccoli, corn, high-fiber breads, ... can help. Just study about the disease named trimethylenamuria. I had strong antibiotics, flagyl, about 10 years ago and it helped for a while. Sitting for a job, or school, changed my pH and I usually smelled. Now, I don't sit for a job and at home I sit on the carpet or rug leaning up against the couch to give me air circulation. I cut out those foods and I believe I've solved my problem. Eating yogurt with cultures helps also. Use Dove soap. Hope this helps.


Kassie I know exactly what you are talking about!!! I had at one time diagnosed myself with this fish odor disease due to a segment I had seen on the Tyra Banks Show. According to the show it comes on suddenly anywhere from 18 to late twenties or early thirties and them BAM! It is incurable. All she (the woman on the show suffering from this disease) talked about was this “horrible foul fish odor that can smell up a room” and I thought…………damn. THIS IS IT! THIS IS WHAT I HAVE!! But then I stumbled upon this site and I almost cried in relief to know that I actually have BV and it IS curable or at least containable according to some girls. The greatest thing was finding out that I am not alone. I had at one time went on the same exact diet that you are talking about for 6 weeks………..and wow, let me tell you it was very hard to stick to at first but after a while it got easier for me. I eventually went back to eating meat,green veggies and select breads because not one thing changed while I was on this diet and I really missed meat and green veggies. I was very disappointed.

So the fact that flagyl had at one time actually helped you could mean that there might be some sort of link between BV and this fish odor disease, although I thought it was called fish odor syndrome? If this disease is a genetic problem then you had this odor even as a child? I am thinking the program I watched could have been a bit misleading or maybe even something different than what you have. When you say that following through with your diet has solved your problem do you mean you have no odor at all anymore? Exactly how long did it take for you to start seeing results once you started your diet? I might not have stayed on long enough. ALTHOUGH I firmly believe my BV is caused by one thing and one thing only………..my crazy hormones!!!! BUT it doesn’t hurt to try out new alternatives.

And yes I must agree that DOVE is the best soap out there. I won’t even touch those soaps they have in hotels. I always have an extra bar or two in my suitcase or purse.
Bella10
QUOTE(SpRiNkLeS @ Feb 2 2008, 03:21 AM) *
I think I have OCD. I do weird compulsive things sometimes but this BV paranoia has REALLY taken its toll lately. I have to sniff everything because I just cannot believe that I don’t stink!! I am like totally going schizoid! If I am out with the public and there is even the slightest funky smell in the air I always think it must be me…………..then it turns out to be something else. Have any of you ever walked by a bush that smells like snot? I was going to Babies ‘R Us and they have these bushes in the front and it totally smells like snot. I thought it was me at first and I wanted to die! Turns out it was the plants. Well I met up with my mom recently and we’ve been shopping like crazy (so much fun when you don’t have BV smells!) and I never realized just how many weird odors there are out there. You all know what I mean? Just EVERYWHERE things smell and I never took notice before until I had BV. Like you know the new smell of shoes in a shoe store? Oh gosh I LOVE that smell. Ok but anyways I walked into this store with my mom today and the most horrible stink flew up in the air and I totally freaked because I thought maybe my BV had just come back at that moment. So then I asked my mom, “Oh my gawd, do you smell that or is it just me?” And she totally smiled a bit and said, “Oh, sorry”. Lol, so she let one fly. I don’t think I’ve ever been happier that someone farted!!!! So anyway it happened again later on and once again my mom admitted that she ripped one. I just hugged her with the biggest grin and said, “Oh, thank GOD! I thought it was me!”

So I’m still on my period, officially ending day 5 I think. This has been like the most awesome period ever…..not one smell at all! HOWEVER I am totally paranoid all day long that the slightest smell is me!! Every since using MetroGel and going on BC my life has been awesome again except for the fact that I am so damn traumatized into thinking that I stink when I really don’t. I am so afraid it is going to come back after this period that I’m just like smelling my crotch all the time now!! We were at the mall and I smelled something ReALLY awful, I mean ladies IT WAS BAD. So I wheel my son (in his stroller) all the way over to one of the public benches they have and I sit down. I take one of his toys and pretend that like he kind of dropped it on the ground by my feet. Then I smell my crotch pretending to pick up the toy. Most the time when I come up grinning because my crotch is completely odorless some stranger is watching me looking scared shitless like I’m some freak who gets off smelling herself. So anyway guess what the smell was? It was coming from my son’s crotch!! Hehe, typical little toddler, he had a dirty diaper.

Ok I went to the Stickam site that Neverending recommended and I was the only one in the chat besides the host. And the host totally wouldn’t even talk to me! People JOIN!!!!!! It would be fun to chat live with you all.

And Bella……………..CONGRATS GIRL. I AM SO DAMN JEALOUS!!! I may have no smells right now but I just know the BV must still be there because I still have odorless discharge when I am not on my period. And then of course once my period gets over who knows what the heck is going to happen down there. My kitty is such a drama queen! Never a dull moment. I gotta ask though……………do you at all still get paranoid that you stink if you smell something weird when you are out with people?


Hi Sprinkles,

Even though I am only BV free for a couple of days I am terified of getting it back and I am a complete freak about it. I only see my Bf on the weekends so last night was the first time we did it in 2 weeks and I was so scared as we were doing it I just felt that the BV bacteria was ravashing me!!! After I showered, took 2 acidopoulous pills and ate a yogurt hahahahaha I felt I had to do something but didn't know what. I go back to the Dr on 2/20 to get a pap test and another follow up culture to see if the BV is gone and I am convinced it is going to be back but it is probably just mental.

Now you talk about BV OCD and paranoia and I am the poster child of it. I have this pocket mirror that is always on me. I wake up and check myself in the mirror, go to work feel alittle discharge run to the bathroom with my mirror!! That mirror has seen more of me than a mirror should!!! I am constantly smelling myself it is really sad. Plus I am always thinking about it and talking about it with my friends. I am sure they are sick of hearing it. But I think after we go through this how can you not be paranoid and worried. I took 2 weeks of metro and started the BC pill last month. My Dr said that in 2-3 months I should see an improvement. Now in a year and a half I have gotten this 3 times and I am still acting like this becasue once I get it it takes 2 months to get rid of it!! I just hope it stays away this time so I can have a normal life that includes one without suppositories and meds. Anyway keep your fingers crossed for me as I will for you. Talk to you soon!
konphusion26
I've got the blues today:

I find it damn near impossible lately to feel sexy anymore with this bv shyt. There's things I want to do to spice my relationship up, but I can't because I'm constantly dealing with this. Portions are few and far between these days, and its really nobody's fault. Its just something that's happened due to my gyn problems. I've planned things that have fallen through because either i'm bleeding/cramping or i smell awful or I'm just paranoid or unconfident about my body. Its a sad. I feel like a walking talking pity party sometimes, because I'm like wow, is this my life?? I find myself feeling sorry for ME about alot of things that are going on in my life right now. This just happens to be the most annoying issue. I'm barely 27 yrs old. I realize my problems could be worse, but there is nothing like feeling dirty or disgusting to send one's self esteem into a downward spiral. I'm sure my depression and frustration is becoming very evident to those around me and is taking a toll on my intimacy with my husband... despite his flaws/quirks I love him dearly. Am I doomed to a life of sexual dissatisfaction and vaginal problems???? God I hope not. I might be locked up in the looney bin before too long. Seriously.

Does anyone ELSE feel this way?? It's very disheartening! dry.gif
yme30
QUOTE(konphusion26 @ Feb 2 2008, 11:07 PM) *
I've got the blues today:

I find it damn near impossible lately to feel sexy anymore with this bv shyt. There's things I want to do to spice my relationship up, but I can't because I'm constantly dealing with this. Portions are few and far between these days, and its really nobody's fault. Its just something that's happened due to my gyn problems. I've planned things that have fallen through because either i'm bleeding/cramping or i smell awful or I'm just paranoid or unconfident about my body. Its a sad. I feel like a walking talking pity party sometimes, because I'm like wow, is this my life?? I find myself feeling sorry for ME about alot of things that are going on in my life right now. This just happens to be the most annoying issue. I'm barely 27 yrs old. I realize my problems could be worse, but there is nothing like feeling dirty or disgusting to send one's self esteem into a downward spiral. I'm sure my depression and frustration is becoming very evident to those around me and is taking a toll on my intimacy with my husband... despite his flaws/quirks I love him dearly. Am I doomed to a life of sexual dissatisfaction and vaginal problems???? God I hope not. I might be locked up in the looney bin before too long. Seriously.

Does anyone ELSE feel this way?? It's very disheartening! dry.gif



I have been feeling the same way eversince I plug the vaginal cream up my "girly bits" a few hours ago. And the cream leaking out if me is simply grossing me out right now I feel so dirty and disgusting. WHY ME!!!!!!!!! I don't have a sex life because of this crap. The fact of the matter is I can look pretty and dress pretty too but when I smell bad it just ruins everything and people see me differently. I just wish I can wake up with a new vagina and the old vagina can just go to hell because that is what it is giving me.

Just recently I had a guy suck on my neck like never before. It was hott, sexy, erotic. Come to find out a friend of a friend dated him for a while and said that he gave crazy "oral" and that I was a lucky girl. But no such luck for me, I refuse to let him go anywhere near it in the condition its in. I have him on speed dial just in case my BV lets up earlier than expected.
virgin4life
ah. i have not been on here in so long!! reading all this stuff is very encouraging. I am trying the tea tree oil asap!!! okay so i have a short story:

last month i had to have a tooth pulled, and was put on antibiotics: cephelexin 500 mg. "this antibiotic is used to treat bacterial infections." i took one a day, and the second day no BV! completely gone. i had about 25 pills and continued them for the whole month. all along not having one symptom. totally gone. i was in heaven. having the tooth pulled was worth the month bv free!! but as soon as i ran out, it was back. not as bad, but bad enough. ugh.

i wish i could stay on those pills for my entire life, but i'd probably just build a resistance to them.

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life is no fun.

Sprinkles: i look forward to reading your posts laugh.gif congrats on the bv free!! what exactly did you do again?
sciongal
QUOTE(mg86 @ Jan 22 2008, 09:58 AM) *
ugh..so embarassed!! Well I have been taking 2 Fem-Dopholus pills daily a little under 2 weeks. A few days ago someone posted here a link to one of the doctors talking about Fem-Dopholus and the cultures...this doctor said that inserting one capsule twice a day also worked. I decided to try this, I inserted one yesterday morning and yesterday night..Well now there is this very strange smell, like some kind of food, it's really weird and gross! I can smell it which makes me very self-conscious! I've decided I'm not going to insert them anymore...but what do you think it is from? No weird discharge or anything...( a little of the usual this morning )



I had that same weird smell too...I had to stop using it vaginally....
mg86
to those who have tried yeast arrest.....

well, I have been using them for about a week now (one in morning one at night) - there is no BV smell or discharge, but I can't say I'm fond of the herb stuff coming out. It doesn't smell, but it sure looks nasty, lol. The instructions say that if the infection is responding but not completely gone you should do another 2 weeks. I am wondering if I should do it for another 2 weeks just to be sure? Also, it says that for maintenance you should do one a day for four days during your period. Does that mean you wear a pad? I am enjoying no gross discharge or sour milk smell, but I don't really want to deal with this herbal ooze either! smile.gif
sassy
mg86: You should just make your own...it costs almost nothing and no green ooze!
konphusion26
Quick question.. and this is totally off topic LOL

does anyone else feel the uncontrollabe urge to "master-debate" when your BV is flaring up and Ya can't have portions so what do you do????? BAAAAAAHHHHH! LOL I'm so on edge I could crack walnuts with my teeth right now. Geez.
chantelhugo
Does anyone know the best birth control pill that would be most compatible with helping rid of BV? Anyone have success with a certain pill that helped regulate their hormones?
neverending
QUOTE(chantelhugo @ Feb 5 2008, 12:28 AM) *
Does anyone know the best birth control pill that would be most compatible with helping rid of BV? Anyone have success with a certain pill that helped regulate their hormones?



I am currently using the Nuvaring and it's good. The only two things I see wrong with it is sometimes your breast will be sore and yes they will get bigger and lowered sex drive. Other than that, everything is all good with me excpet the dry vag. but that has nothing to do with th BC. HOPE THIS HELPS!
kassie
QUOTE(SpRiNkLeS @ Feb 2 2008, 04:25 AM) *
Kassie I know exactly what you are talking about!!! I had at one time diagnosed myself with this fish odor disease due to a segment I had seen on the Tyra Banks Show. According to the show it comes on suddenly anywhere from 18 to late twenties or early thirties and them BAM! It is incurable. All she (the woman on the show suffering from this disease) talked about was this “horrible foul fish odor that can smell up a room” and I thought…………damn. THIS IS IT! THIS IS WHAT I HAVE!! But then I stumbled upon this site and I almost cried in relief to know that I actually have BV and it IS curable or at least containable according to some girls. The greatest thing was finding out that I am not alone. I had at one time went on the same exact diet that you are talking about for 6 weeks………..and wow, let me tell you it was very hard to stick to at first but after a while it got easier for me. I eventually went back to eating meat,green veggies and select breads because not one thing changed while I was on this diet and I really missed meat and green veggies. I was very disappointed.

So the fact that flagyl had at one time actually helped you could mean that there might be some sort of link between BV and this fish odor disease, although I thought it was called fish odor syndrome? If this disease is a genetic problem then you had this odor even as a child? I am thinking the program I watched could have been a bit misleading or maybe even something different than what you have. When you say that following through with your diet has solved your problem do you mean you have no odor at all anymore? Exactly how long did it take for you to start seeing results once you started your diet? I might not have stayed on long enough. ALTHOUGH I firmly believe my BV is caused by one thing and one thing only………..my crazy hormones!!!! BUT it doesn’t hurt to try out new alternatives.

And yes I must agree that DOVE is the best soap out there. I won’t even touch those soaps they have in hotels. I always have an extra bar or two in my suitcase or purse.

It started with a vaginal odor in my late teen years, about the time I became close with boyfriends; heavy petting. So, this introduced bacteria, I guess. After I was married and went back to work I had a co-worker pull me aside because the odor from a fun honeymoon was obvious not only to me but to the people I worked with. I was given iodine-douches from a gyno. I don't think my period blood started smelling until I had a bad bout with the flu in Virginia Beach, VA, and I think I got giardia bacteria from their drinking water. The point is that other people do fine after these activities: sex, flu, their period, and don't stink. I think anything I can find to help is great and the food I avoid seems to help. I'm 50 and two years ago I asked a doctor about what might be causing this and he gave me a blank stare. No help there. Yes, the doctor who gave me flagyl had some insight but the effect didn't last. My bacteria is very sensitive and anaerobic bacteria I think flourishes when I sit too much. I call it a disease because it can be detected by looking at your chromosomes, the fish-odor disease. The woman you're talking about had a very bad case, I read, and some people can get good results from staying away from the food they can't break down all the way. Don't really know for sure, but I can honestly say I think it's working for me.
kristen
QUOTE(chantelhugo @ Feb 4 2008, 05:28 PM) *
Does anyone know the best birth control pill that would be most compatible with helping rid of BV? Anyone have success with a certain pill that helped regulate their hormones?

I asked the same question not to long ago, but i didn't get a response. I'm pretty sure that bv does have something to do with hormones so you would think birth control would effect it in some way. I started to notice my first symptoms maybe a month or two before i started birth control and i had never been on it before. so anway i started taking the bc and saw no change at all. But here is my question does anyone recommend me trying something else since the bv was the same before and after the bc. i am on ortho tri cyclen lo.
chronicpanic
hi girls! i'm new here =) been reading this thread with much interest!

22 year old here.. but unlike most of you here, i'm actually from singapore, where such problems are either seldom heard of or swept under the rug due to embarrasement. yeah, the average asian is a frightened tight-lipped one tongue.gif

first up.. i've recently had an odd watery yellowish discharge of late, coupled with a slight, but not empowering smell. not wanting to take the risk i headed to my gynae where he noticed that my vulva looked reddish and he took a culture and the results were that i have a heavy growth of strep b, and put me on amoxillin for 2 weeks.

the odd thing is, after much googling, i found out that strep b infection is one thats without symptoms.. i have already been on amox for a week and still not much results =( i'm wondering if its BV, since the culture also covered trich and other STDs and all were negative. i'm so paranoid that i have been trying to smell myself everytime i get the chance to, to the extent that i'd whiff my pantyliner (yeah gross i know). i've never had BV before, so im not sure how the smell is like but the current smell that i have is actually not very strong, and i have to put my nose really closely to the pantyliner before i can smell anything.

to be honest i kinda forgotten how my normal discharge smells like.. there's even a chance it might be my normal discharge just that my paranoia affects my perception.

sigh.

can anyone who's had strep b before kindly enlighten this lost soul here?! thanks!!! and oh, is it possible that BV discharge is yellowish and not an opaque white? and will eating yoghurt help restore the PH in anyway? thank you once again!
mfc10
QUOTE(chronicpanic @ Feb 5 2008, 03:20 AM) *
the odd thing is, after much googling, i found out that strep b infection is one thats without symptoms..



Hi--Check out this discussion board [url="http://www.steadyhealth.com/due_to_boric_acid__my_yeast_infection_has_changed__t92154.html"]
where a couple women talked about vaginal Strep B. I believe that Dr. Elizabeth Stewart's "The V Book" also covers strep b. Will post again if I hear of anything helpful.
Take care,
Magggie
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