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JJ27
I do them but not religiously. Yes, I' not as JJ (juicy juice) as when I was a youngin. Singing "how dry I am...hiccup! " laugh.gif I'm in menopause.

QUOTE(neverending @ Feb 28 2008, 02:21 PM) *
Have you ever tried Kegal excersice. That should help. As far as lubricate I use sylk . Do you have dry vag issues too? or do you use it for other purposes?

ellie-a
QUOTE(LilMissStrange @ Feb 29 2008, 05:22 AM) *
Hi everyone I'm a new poster to this thread so I apologize if I am repeating something or I have missed something.
I JUST had a somewhat upsetting conversation with an ex who told me that he hardly ever went down on me when we were going out because I smelled bad down there. I was with him for 6 years and during that time I went through so many different types of birthcontrol (Pill, ring, patch, but mostly I was on Depo).
My previous BF loved going down on me and told me I tasted great, but I wasn't on birthcontrol with him. Since the last boy and I broke up (over a year ago) I've been off hormonal birthcontrol and have since gotten a copper IUD. I've just started seeing someone after a year of no sex and now I am freaking out that if he goes down on me he'll think that I smell/taste terrible.
I try and check myself and I *think* that it's usually smells ok....although after a day of activity it's understandably not so good. But now I'm wondering if it's even possible to be able to tell yourself? Is it possible that the hormonal birthcontrol was the culprit? When I was on the hormones I had a hard time getting wet (read never!) but now it happens all the time when Im aroused, could that help with the smell?
I'm sorry for the rambling post, I'm just really upset about what he said (and the fact that I haven't had oral in years tongue.gif).
Thanks for any help/advice you can give!



I agree with neverending!.....your ex is a total D*** and well rid-of, darl. And I'm sorry, but a life without oral is simply TOO high a price to pay methinks, just because medical researchers can't be bothered/are unable to.... find a cure. mad.gif

Personally, I can recommend douching with a mild solution of TTO 24 hours or so before prospective sex..... that should deal with the odour problem on the day. And again, douching the day after sex, etc. You'd soon work out the best routine for you, depending on the pattern of your sex life. If is sounds too complicated, believe me it's not, it's easy to incorporate into your daily routine, right at the end of your shower. Just keep the TTO and douch handy next to the shower. It only takes a couple of minutes to do. I use a capful of TTO mixed with a about 2 litres of body temp water.

I think I posted last time that for me, the triggers of BV are semen, stress, using soap down there (although haven't tried Dial....a doctor once told me never to use soap down there, as you just don't need to), and diet......HOWEVER I missed THE one most obvious cause (IMO), which is of course HORMONES. It makes sense that the treatments we've all mentioned work on the SYMPTOMS, but not the CAUSE of the BV. Therefore (as suggested by another poster) I've decided to give the vitamin B6 (100mg a day) a try and see how it goes. If all it takes is a simple capsule a day, I'll be more than happy with that!

Anyway, good luck as always y'all and keep up the great work. wink.gif
cynthia_k
QUOTE(i @ Feb 28 2008, 12:06 AM) *
Ok so here is my plan. I am going to continue with the MG until I see the Dr at the end of March. In the mean time, I ordered the Sylk and I am going to go to whole foods tomorrow and get some Femndoph. I am going to take B6 and garlic everyday and I am switching to just water to try to cut some of the sugar out of my diet. I am also thinking about doing to TTO in the empty caps maybe 2 times a week. I love TTO for everything else but I never thought to use if for the BV. I do have one question about the BA. I did try using it before I saw the specialist but as soon as I stopped the odor came back. Does the BA actually help to get rid of the BV or does it just get rid of the smell?

Anything else I should be taking??


Well, I had my annual exam with my gyn about three weeks after I first started using the BA inserts and she actually gave me a clear check up (no BV!) for the first time in over a year. I had been in there to see her at least 5 times for the recurring BV, so I was shocked when it seemed to be gone. I actually asked her about the boric acid and she told me that she didn't recommend it, after which I admitted that I had already been using it. Funny, nothing she prescribed had helped at all.

I still get signs of the smell after sex or before my period, but the BA capsules seem to knock it out. I think "curing" it is a matter of making the vagina inhospitable to bad bacteria at the same time as you replace the good (hence, the femdoph).

Hope this helps... I can only say that it's working for me!
cynthia_k
QUOTE(cynthia_k @ Feb 28 2008, 09:37 PM) *
Well, I had my annual exam with my gyn about three weeks after I first started using the BA inserts and she actually gave me a clear check up (no BV!) for the first time in over a year. I had been in there to see her at least 5 times for the recurring BV, so I was shocked when it seemed to be gone. I actually asked her about the boric acid and she told me that she didn't recommend it, after which I admitted that I had already been using it. Funny, nothing she prescribed had helped at all.

I still get signs of the smell after sex or before my period, but the BA capsules seem to knock it out. I think "curing" it is a matter of making the vagina inhospitable to bad bacteria at the same time as you replace the good (hence, the femdoph).

Hope this helps... I can only say that it's working for me!


Oh yeah, I also tried to reduce my sugar intake and I started taking folic acid supplements and vitamin c...
neverending
Ok, I said I would do this by Friday. I don't know how to upload pictures, so if someone knows how to upload pictures please teach me so I can be of better service to you all.

Ok first microscope:

I found this on ebay. This is like the microscope we used in the lab. Try to ask whoever you buy the microscope from to place the instructions with the microscope because these are very tricky to work with. You have to make sure the microscope is on certain levels to be able to view the slide correctly.It's not hard, you'll learn fairly quickly. Here is the link: http://cgi.ebay.com/Nikon-Microscope_W0QQi...1QQcmdZViewItem

This one is very good and seems very easy to use.
http://cgi.ebay.com/TEACHING-MICROSCOPE-DU...1QQcmdZViewItem

This one should be good also: http://cgi.ebay.com/Advanced-Trinocular-Co...1QQcmdZViewItem

Ok, enough of microscopes. Here's things you need to know.
First you need to know what a wet mount is:
* http://health.yahoo.com/sexualhealth-diagn...se--hw6026.html

This is how you do a wet prep.
* http://www.infojustice.com/samples/52%20Va...Wet%20Preps.htm

* http://www.ecologycenter.org/tfs/images/20...l/wet_mount.jpg



Things you will need while doing this :
*Long q-tips with the wooden tips if your infection is high up or you can use the regular kind but make sure it's not the cheap ones because they will come off in your vajayjay(the cotton on the end) and you don't want that.
*If you can get saline, that's fine, but if you can't make sure it's pure water not tap water.
*You will need slides and the little glass that goes on top

This is the yeast i'm use to seeing. The yeast will be very shiny. Like an egg and it will form a tree as far as the budding goes.
* http://pathmicro.med.sc.edu/mycology/yeast1q.jpg
Sometimes you can see yeast and bv at the same time so look for both. If you do have both then boric acid should help wipe both out since it works for both bv and yeast.

Here is a slide of Trich. Notice the flagella coming out of the organism. These will be moving bbut of course you all know that from the youtube video that I posted.
* http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=htt...0US251%26sa%3DN
Youtube video of Trich:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RKDBd8Dpp0

Ok, last but not least, this is a slide of BV
* http://www.mjbovo.com/Contracept/STD-Gard.jpg
* http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=htt...0US251%26sa%3DN
* http://depts.washington.edu/nnptc/online_t...s/cluecells.jpg
* http://www.bu.edu/cme/std/images/slide1-vwp_g420.jpg

Let me know if you need more info.
RN with BV
QUOTE(cynthia_k @ Feb 28 2008, 09:39 PM) *
Oh yeah, I also tried to reduce my sugar intake and I started taking folic acid supplements and vitamin c...


I agree your ex is an ass..........I was on birth control pills for 15 years never had a problem. (other than I was dry dry dry) I had a mirnea(not sure of spelling sorry) IUD (loved my IUD!) for 5 years had to have a new once placed every five years. At the time I had a new one placed my husband was cheating I ended up with BV. I was tested several times for STD's Always came back negative. The infection spread to my uterus and I demanded the IUD be taken out even though everything I read said that it didn't need to be taken out. Even though the BV sucks having it go into you uterus and tubes is worse. I am not on any birth control now but still fighting the BV. But it is only the vag issuses I am dealing with now not the uterus and tube issues.

I have tried to read everything I can and my GYN has tried to look up things as well he and I neither one are sure but here are the two main reasons most likely caused the BV:

1. Even though I was with only one partner (in 15 years) my husband was with other women and some of their bacteria might have been transferred to me (I know gross!!!!!)
2. I had a new IUD placed, there is a higher rate of women having symptoms of BV right after an IUD is placed.

whatever the reason I am just posting this because I have seen that a lot of women have an IUD (damn I miss my IUD I never had periods or hormonal swings lol)
keep in mind that if you start having signs of PID you need to be checked. I could not get rid of these symptoms until I had IUD taken out.

BTW.....because of what I read on here I ordered yeast arrest and the boric acid I will try one and then the other later and I went to local walgreens and found a B complex that I can take 2 of a day trying that with the folic acid I also picked up a bottle of sylk because I smell fine UNTIL I am in the middle of sex and then suddenly the whole room smells like dead fish and it looks like snot coming out of me (sorry I know it is graphic) so maybe the sylk will help with that as well

thanks guys for the info this is a great forum

damn i wrote a novel .............sorry I ramble a bit
RN with BV
lilmiss ........the "your ex is an ass" comment was for you (I don't know maybe cynthia's ex is as ass too but that is not who I was speaking about lol)
RN with BV
lilmiss ........the "your ex is an ass" comment was for you (I don't know maybe cynthia's ex is as ass too but that is not who I was speaking about lol)
JoanClayton
Hey Ladies,

I got my FemDolphilus in the mail from Swanson, it was not in ice. I havent opened it yet. It says it needs to be refridgerated. Is that before or after I open it?
yme30
QUOTE(JoanClayton @ Feb 29 2008, 10:04 PM) *
Hey Ladies,

I got my FemDolphilus in the mail from Swanson, it was not in ice. I havent opened it yet. It says it needs to be refridgerated. Is that before or after I open it?



Probably after you open it just as you would with any other foods that require refrigeration once opened. If you want to you could just put it in the fridge until you decide to actually start taking them, but hey what do I know huh.gif

Before I sign off just wanted to welcome all the newcomers and the loads of info on this board as of lately. I read the board everyday and I am always happy to see new post so keep em coming yal.

Also I just found out that I am allergic to "sodium lauryl sulfate" I started picking up on the ingredient being in everything that I had an allergic reaction to like my soap, toothpaste, perfumes, and deodorant. I have saw a big change in my BV with the use of organic soap. It leaves me feeling dry and clean, its like my body responds to it really well, I am trying my best to rid myself of this BV for once and for all.
LilMissStrange
Thank you so much for all the replies ladies, you're all right; my ex is a total ass and good riddance!
Ellie-a the TTO is such a great idea, and I don't think it will be hard to fit into my routine at all!
After reading through all the posts on this board I've realized how many different things I had been doing that could have contributed to the BV. Nowhere else on the internet have I been able to find such a good source of information as you ladies here. Thanks again wink.gif
RN with BV
just an update ..................got the yeast arrest in the mail this morning so I used one then used one tonight as well.

Whenever I use the peroxide douches about 12-24 hours after I use it I become itchy again but an hour after the first yeast arrest vag cap all itching and discharge gone, went ahead and used another tonight, but the only down side was all the herbs coming out on the panty liner (gross) so I will keep using them because it seems to be working BUT I am trying the boric acid caps next after these are gone because I keep reading that the discharge isn't as gross.
lori
QUOTE(jewelscando @ Feb 27 2008, 09:23 PM) *
Boric Acid, is only preventative. Not a cure. If you stop using it, and you have ACTUAL re-occuring BV, it will come back. TTO, is not a cure either. It's just working. I have to use it after sex, or I'm sure the BV will come back.

There is no cure. If you have re-occuring BV, you have to live your life with preventative maintenance, until they find a cure.

Hey Jewels.

I disagree that there is no cure. Fem-dophilus cured me. Repopulating your vagina with the missing Lactobacillus is the best (really, only) solution to this problem, and Fem-dophilus is the only product that's proven to work. It definitely worked for me. Based on skimming this thread, it's also worked for many others. It's the one product that's been the most effective, and also safe to use. (Oh yeah, PLEASE do not stick it in your vagina! Geez, people. I understand that you're desperate and you want relief right away - believe me, I KNOW - but just take it orally, and give it a chance to do its thing. Be patient.)

And no, just taking any other brand of acidophilus, Primadophilus Reuteri, etc. is not the same thing. I know Fem-dophilus is not cheap, but it contains patented strains that you're not going to get in other products.

FYI - I took it religiously for 8 months since 2/2007. That was probably longer than necessary but I was paranoid, because I suffered with BV for so long. Who knew the solution was so simple? I finally felt confident to stop taking it since October, and have been BV-free since. I've had to do no maintenance. I still keep a bottle in the fridge, and will definitely take it again in the future if I need to take antibiotics for any reason.

QUOTE(JoanClayton @ Feb 29 2008, 06:04 PM) *
I got my FemDolphilus in the mail from Swanson, it was not in ice. I havent opened it yet. It says it needs to be refridgerated. Is that before or after I open it?

It should be refrigerated BEFORE because it contains live organisms. So put it in the fridge right away. It's also best to buy it refrigerated (Whole Foods or iHerb.com sells it that way.) I wouldn't chuck it, though. I bought my first couple bottles un-refrigerated (from vitacost.com), and they still had some effect. But in the future, it's best to buy it refrigerated.
sassy
Lori: Welcome back! That's great to hear! How long were you taking the Femdophilus before you saw any difference in your BV...just curious.
quietmadness
Does anyone have any info on CIPRO being used to treat BV?? Because I was given Cipro at the doc's for that creeping-crud illness that's been killing everyone on earth (figuratively I mean) and since taking it----NO SMELL.

Do you think it killed the BV stuff, or is it the combo of the BA, and CIPRO???

Gobs but I'm sooooo tired of this damned yo-yo crap with my girlie.... sad.gif

--Quiet--
JJ27
Really?!?!?!?!?!?!? Don't insert the Fem D just take them orally? I should receive mine by Wednesday and I had planned on sticking it up there! LOL! I ordered them from iherb but good to know that Whole food carries them. I rather do that then order on line. How long did it take for it to go away? How many times a day did you take them?
JJ27
Really?!?!?!?!?!?!? Don't insert the Fem D just take them orally? I should receive mine by Wednesday and I had planned on sticking it up there! LOL! I ordered them from iherb but good to know that Whole food carries them. I rather do that then order on line. How long did it take for it to go away? How many times a day did you take them? Can someone tell me how I can include a pic by my user name????????????????????/



QUOTE(lori @ Mar 2 2008, 02:32 PM) *
Hey Jewels.

I disagree that there is no cure. Fem-dophilus cured me. Repopulating your vagina with the missing Lactobacillus is the best (really, only) solution to this problem, and Fem-dophilus is the only product that's proven to work. It definitely worked for me. Based on skimming this thread, it's also worked for many others. It's the one product that's been the most effective, and also safe to use. (Oh yeah, PLEASE do not stick it in your vagina! Geez, people. I understand that you're desperate and you want relief right away - believe me, I KNOW - but just take it orally, and give it a chance to do its thing. Be patient.)

And no, just taking any other brand of acidophilus, Primadophilus Reuteri, etc. is not the same thing. I know Fem-dophilus is not cheap, but it contains patented strains that you're not going to get in other products.

FYI - I took it religiously for 8 months since 2/2007. That was probably longer than necessary but I was paranoid, because I suffered with BV for so long. Who knew the solution was so simple? I finally felt confident to stop taking it since October, and have been BV-free since. I've had to do no maintenance. I still keep a bottle in the fridge, and will definitely take it again in the future if I need to take antibiotics for any reason.
It should be refrigerated BEFORE because it contains live organisms. So put it in the fridge right away. It's also best to buy it refrigerated (Whole Foods or iHerb.com sells it that way.) I wouldn't chuck it, though. I bought my first couple bottles un-refrigerated (from vitacost.com), and they still had some effect. But in the future, it's best to buy it refrigerated.

sciongal
Hi all...here is a link to a lecture from the creator of femdophilus...btw, he actually talks about how bv can be treated by inserting it vaginally...but check it out and decide for yourself.
http://jarrow.com/dr-reid
stressed43
Ok so I've had Bv for a year now and it really does suck. I've taken Flagyl and the odor goes away...but guess what? It comes back! I had to take antibiotics for a root canal (the smell came back mad.gif ). Took flagyl again and the smell went away.

Then I started a new birth control because I usually use it for acne treatment (not contraception) and..two days later..ta da! smell came back. It's haunting me...and I feel pretty much hopeless. I don't think it is my partner anymore because we use condoms or just DONT have sex anymore. And even if it is..we don't have time to go together to get a check up HOW embarrassing. Anyway I've taken too many prescriptions that has killed all my good bacteria already. AHHH!

So I read that post about the Fem-dophillis and just taking it face value seems to make sense. I even listened to the lecture. My dad is really into trace minerals and I am really into research because I am a psych student so I can see how this supplement may work. However, I do have a few questions?

Are you or did you take it WHILE you were taking flagyl? metrogel? or any other treatments? OR did you take Femdophilis ALONE. cuz i am SICK of other treatments.

Also, you said it was available at whole foods. In what section? And can I take this supplement while I am on birth control?

Please get back to me =)
I will probably purchase it after I get the heads up from my gyno or someone that has used it !!
jewelscando
QUOTE(lori @ Mar 2 2008, 07:32 PM) *
Hey Jewels.

I disagree that there is no cure. Fem-dophilus cured me. Repopulating your vagina with the missing Lactobacillus is the best (really, only) solution to this problem, and Fem-dophilus is the only product that's proven to work. It definitely worked for me. Based on skimming this thread, it's also worked for many others. It's the one product that's been the most effective, and also safe to use. (Oh yeah, PLEASE do not stick it in your vagina! Geez, people. I understand that you're desperate and you want relief right away - believe me, I KNOW - but just take it orally, and give it a chance to do its thing. Be patient.)

And no, just taking any other brand of acidophilus, Primadophilus Reuteri, etc. is not the same thing. I know Fem-dophilus is not cheap, but it contains patented strains that you're not going to get in other products.

FYI - I took it religiously for 8 months since 2/2007. That was probably longer than necessary but I was paranoid, because I suffered with BV for so long. Who knew the solution was so simple? I finally felt confident to stop taking it since October, and have been BV-free since. I've had to do no maintenance. I still keep a bottle in the fridge, and will definitely take it again in the future if I need to take antibiotics for any reason.
It should be refrigerated BEFORE because it contains live organisms. So put it in the fridge right away. It's also best to buy it refrigerated (Whole Foods or iHerb.com sells it that way.) I wouldn't chuck it, though. I bought my first couple bottles un-refrigerated (from vitacost.com), and they still had some effect. But in the future, it's best to buy it refrigerated.


LORI!!!!!!!! WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN HIDING!!!! WELCOME BACK HUN!!! I'VE MISSED YOU!!!!

So happy to hear that the Fem-dophilus worked for you!!! Congrats hun!! We will just agree to disagree on this topic. Because as we both know, what's worked for you, may not work for me and vice versa. I haven't tried the Fem yet, only because the Tea Tree Oil Suppossitories took mine away as well. I use them after sex, only because I'm afraid not too!! lol, not because I have too. So, for all I know, this was my cure too, but who knows.

Great to have you back Lori!!!
quietmadness
So....anybody know anything about the Cipro thing? (thanks!) unsure.gif

--Quiet--
JJ27
Thanks! tongue.gif I have to check it out on my home computer the link doesn't work at work.

QUOTE(sciongal @ Mar 3 2008, 06:51 PM) *
Hi all...here is a link to a lecture from the creator of femdophilus...btw, he actually talks about how bv can be treated by inserting it vaginally...but check it out and decide for yourself.
http://jarrow.com/dr-reid
JJ27
You really should ask your Dr. It might have because the creams for BV are a antibiotic but internally. Maybe orally it cured it but I'm just guessing. The thing with antibiotics orally is sometimes they take the good bacteria away which causes yeast infections. What did you have that the Dr. prescribed Cipro? I just looked it up and it said it helps with urinary tract and bacterial infections but it didn't state BV. I try not to take antibiotics because I always get a yeast infection but if I must then on day three I use a yeast cream to avoid it or diflucan.
But all that crap takes a toll on your body and liver and I rather save my liver for drinking!! laugh.gif

QUOTE(quietmadness @ Mar 3 2008, 09:38 AM) *
Does anyone have any info on CIPRO being used to treat BV?? Because I was given Cipro at the doc's for that creeping-crud illness that's been killing everyone on earth (figuratively I mean) and since taking it----NO SMELL.

Do you think it killed the BV stuff, or is it the combo of the BA, and CIPRO???

Gobs but I'm sooooo tired of this damned yo-yo crap with my girlie.... sad.gif

--Quiet--

JJ27
How did you get the pic under your username?

QUOTE(quietmadness @ Mar 4 2008, 12:54 AM) *
So....anybody know anything about the Cipro thing? (thanks!) unsure.gif

--Quiet--

CanCan
QUOTE(lori @ Mar 2 2008, 02:32 PM) *
Hey Jewels.

I disagree that there is no cure. Fem-dophilus cured me. Repopulating your vagina with the missing Lactobacillus is the best (really, only) solution to this problem, and Fem-dophilus is the only product that's proven to work. It definitely worked for me. Based on skimming this thread, it's also worked for many others. It's the one product that's been the most effective, and also safe to use. (Oh yeah, PLEASE do not stick it in your vagina! Geez, people. I understand that you're desperate and you want relief right away - believe me, I KNOW - but just take it orally, and give it a chance to do its thing. Be patient.)

And no, just taking any other brand of acidophilus, Primadophilus Reuteri, etc. is not the same thing. I know Fem-dophilus is not cheap, but it contains patented strains that you're not going to get in other products.

FYI - I took it religiously for 8 months since 2/2007. That was probably longer than necessary but I was paranoid, because I suffered with BV for so long. Who knew the solution was so simple? I finally felt confident to stop taking it since October, and have been BV-free since. I've had to do no maintenance. I still keep a bottle in the fridge, and will definitely take it again in the future if I need to take antibiotics for any reason.
It should be refrigerated BEFORE because it contains live organisms. So put it in the fridge right away. It's also best to buy it refrigerated (Whole Foods or iHerb.com sells it that way.) I wouldn't chuck it, though. I bought my first couple bottles un-refrigerated (from vitacost.com), and they still had some effect. But in the future, it's best to buy it refrigerated.

Hi Lori, great news that you are feeling well, and that the FemDophilus is working. It seems to be working for me too. I am taking it orally and inserting it vaginally. But not inserting it every day. Inserted half a capsule a few times a week at night. Right now I am away from home on a trip, so I can't be inserting it, I don't have any on me. But I feel fine. But I am not having sex while away, so I am in the clear for a while anyway. Dr. Reid stated on the Jarrow website that you can insert it vaginally, so I decided to try it out. It seems to be working for me. But of course we are all a bit different, so I don't know if everyone would respond the same way.
RN with BV

that is wonderful that you were cured by fem dolph, however...................i have taken it faithfully for a year and still having to do other things to control the BV, I wish this would have worked for me but it did not. I do think the answer is with probiotics and repopulating the vaginal tract with "good" bacteria. So I continue taking it hoping it will at least help.
jularee
QUOTE(quietmadness @ Mar 3 2008, 10:38 AM) *
Does anyone have any info on CIPRO being used to treat BV?? Because I was given Cipro at the doc's for that creeping-crud illness that's been killing everyone on earth (figuratively I mean) and since taking it----NO SMELL.

Do you think it killed the BV stuff, or is it the combo of the BA, and CIPRO???

Gobs but I'm sooooo tired of this damned yo-yo crap with my girlie.... sad.gif

--Quiet--


Actually one of the doc I work with said Cipro can be used to treat BV but I remember reading somewhere it has a very high reoccurence rate compared to Flagyl or other medications so it's not routinely prescibed as treatment. Be careful though, because it can cause horrible yeasties to flourish!!
jularee
QUOTE(stressed43 @ Mar 3 2008, 11:52 PM) *
Ok so I've had Bv for a year now and it really does suck. I've taken Flagyl and the odor goes away...but guess what? It comes back! I had to take antibiotics for a root canal (the smell came back mad.gif ). Took flagyl again and the smell went away.

Then I started a new birth control because I usually use it for acne treatment (not contraception) and..two days later..ta da! smell came back. It's haunting me...and I feel pretty much hopeless. I don't think it is my partner anymore because we use condoms or just DONT have sex anymore. And even if it is..we don't have time to go together to get a check up HOW embarrassing. Anyway I've taken too many prescriptions that has killed all my good bacteria already. AHHH!

So I read that post about the Fem-dophillis and just taking it face value seems to make sense. I even listened to the lecture. My dad is really into trace minerals and I am really into research because I am a psych student so I can see how this supplement may work. However, I do have a few questions?

Are you or did you take it WHILE you were taking flagyl? metrogel? or any other treatments? OR did you take Femdophilis ALONE. cuz i am SICK of other treatments.

Also, you said it was available at whole foods. In what section? And can I take this supplement while I am on birth control?

Please get back to me =)
I will probably purchase it after I get the heads up from my gyno or someone that has used it !!


Welcome! I started using Femdophilus after a round of flagyl to help repopulate the good stuff. So far so good. I'm sure it wouldn't hurt to take it while on the antibiotics, just be sure to take them several hours apart so the meds won't kill the good amoebas.
CanCan
QUOTE(neverending @ Feb 29 2008, 02:19 AM) *
Ok, I said I would do this by Friday. I don't know how to upload pictures, so if someone knows how to upload pictures please teach me so I can be of better service to you all.

Ok first microscope:

I found this on ebay. This is like the microscope we used in the lab. Try to ask whoever you buy the microscope from to place the instructions with the microscope because these are very tricky to work with. You have to make sure the microscope is on certain levels to be able to view the slide correctly.It's not hard, you'll learn fairly quickly. Here is the link: http://cgi.ebay.com/Nikon-Microscope_W0QQi...1QQcmdZViewItem

Let me know if you need more info.


Hi, thanks for all the info! I'm at my parent's place now, and I found one of my dad's microscopes, but the batteries are obviously dead. And I'm hoping that the contacts are not coroded. The microscope says 1200X on it. And then the largest lens says 120x - 240x. Do you think that sounds like the right kind? This thing looks so small, I just hope it will work. Then again, the thing is so dusty, it may be better to just buy a new one.
quietmadness
QUOTE(JJ27 @ Mar 4 2008, 10:40 AM) *
How did you get the pic under your username?


Hey JJ27, blink.gif it's been such a long time...hmmm..

Ok. First you have to reduce whatever pic you want to put there in your computer to avatar size. Go to: www.shrinkpictures.com to do this. Once you've got one picked out, click up there on "my controls," then click on "avatar settings," and go from there.

HTH,
--Quiet--
chronicpanic
just wondering.. is there a specific colour for bv discharge? ive read that its greyish-whitish and watery. but can it be the normal kinda discharge we get most of the time, the off-whitish kind? and also, what colour is it on your pantiliners? does it dries up to a light yellow?

utterly disheartened. am still sniffing my undies every now and then wondering if i really have it. my gynae says im being paranoid =( i have forgotten what normal smells like anymore. heck i might be smelling like normal but my paranoia gives it a totally diff whiff. blah!
stressed43
QUOTE(jularee @ Mar 4 2008, 01:21 PM) *
Welcome! I started using Femdophilus after a round of flagyl to help repopulate the good stuff. So far so good. I'm sure it wouldn't hurt to take it while on the antibiotics, just be sure to take them several hours apart so the meds won't kill the good amoebas.


I think I will go get the Femdophilus this weekend, but I'm not going to continue on flagyl. I feel like i've been taking so many pills that people around me think i'm an addict. My cousing was like "dude..ur always popping pills!" Anyways thanks for the Welcome =)

With flagyl the odor went away EVERY time for me so it definitely works, but it came back whenever my lifestyle changed, bc, or I took antibiotics. If taking femdophilus will eliminate the smell even when I take other random medications I would NOT mind at all paying and taking it for the rest of my life!

Oh yea and I emailed my gyno yesterday about femdophilus (she is ususally really informed and knowledgeable), but all she said was to make an appointment with her because it was just BV and that I should get more prescription medicine. Like she just ignored my question..which means...maybe Kaiser wants to keep shoving drugs down my throat? I duno ..any thoughts ..opinions? huh.gif
stressed43
QUOTE(RN with BV @ Mar 4 2008, 01:01 PM) *
that is wonderful that you were cured by fem dolph, however...................i have taken it faithfully for a year and still having to do other things to control the BV, I wish this would have worked for me but it did not. I do think the answer is with probiotics and repopulating the vaginal tract with "good" bacteria. So I continue taking it hoping it will at least help.


Hello =) I was just wondering..did it alleviate the symptoms AT ALL? (the femdoph)
RN with BV
stressed..... I think it helps repopulate the vaginal tract with good bacteria and is worth taking (especially ANYTIME you are on antibiotics) I don't know that I saw a difference in symptoms. The peroxide douches or (so far) the yeast arrest seem to be working at CONTROLLING the BV. For me it controls it as well as all the antibiotics I was on before and cheaper and no going into the MD. I also take folic acid and a B complex everday (same theory..... it is cheap easy good for you anyway) I have gone through pretty much everything I have heard of my GYN was the first to suggest Boric acid and said that his patients have had some degree of success. However he stressed to me at this time if it is truley chronic .....the medical world does not have a sure fire way to cure it.
mg86
Hi all - Ah, well I see the discussion is about FemDoph now...making me want to buy another bottle! smile.gif I took 2 pills daily for about 2 weeks, but didn't notice any difference. I am thinking that was not enough time and I should probably try it for longer. Do you think taking only ONE pill a day is enough? Because the bottle sure does empty quickly when taking two a day.

Also regarding Boric Acid, I can't seem to find it anywhere. Which area is it in? I have looked at Wal Mart and CVS but no luck. And does any health food store carry the 00 capsules? It would be sooo much easier to order online but the shipping is a pain.

Does anyone else have a feeling that they have to go pee when they really don't? It usually happens while I am on my period, but I've been feeling it a lot these past few weeks. No pain or burning during urination like a UTI. Also, I don't see much talk about itching on this thread, but that is one my major symptoms. And the smell, I'm not even sure how to describe it...SIGH!!

I am feeling so discouraged about this....

Hope you all are doing well!!
JJ27
Thanks quietmadness! tongue.gif I'll work on this over the weekend. FYI-never heard of avatar... huh.gif

QUOTE(quietmadness @ Mar 4 2008, 06:50 PM) *
Hey JJ27, blink.gif it's been such a long time...hmmm..

Ok. First you have to reduce whatever pic you want to put there in your computer to avatar size. Go to: www.shrinkpictures.com to do this. Once you've got one picked out, click up there on "my controls," then click on "avatar settings," and go from there.

HTH,
--Quiet--

JJ27
Good Morning,

I'm not a newbie anymore!!!!!! tongue.gif I haven't received my Fem D yet but the other probiotic I was taking said 3 x a day. I feel it's best to follow what it says on the bottle and from what I'm reading most of you had luck with Fem D. I can't wait to get mine. Does anyone know about Culterelle? Would that be the same as Fem D? I need to compare them.

MG86-The feeling of having to pee could be a start of UTI or something. Drink lots of water and cranberry juice not cocktail. It always worked for me when I would feel that sensation. Yeah I'm also having a hard time finding the BA in capsule. I would totally try that too. I want to be done with this and feel normal down there!!!

Not sure why but my BV doesn't have an odor blink.gif I just have a slight burning sensation and sometimes feel pinchy in there. I know when I have it cause sorry but I'm going to be blunt here...as I'm peeing I have a pussy fart. ohmy.gif

It totally sucks cause I don't want to have sex anymore and it's ruining my relationship of four yrs!! I'm going to try a major precautionary system this time and see if it works. What do you guys think...take the clindesse, them use the Fem D, (orally right not internally right?), no sex for two weeks, and use a condom? I'm I being too anal??????? wacko.gif
RN with BV
QUOTE(JJ27 @ Mar 5 2008, 10:00 AM) *
Good Morning,

I'm not a newbie anymore!!!!!! tongue.gif I haven't received my Fem D yet but the other probiotic I was taking said 3 x a day. I feel it's best to follow what it says on the bottle and from what I'm reading most of you had luck with Fem D. I can't wait to get mine. Does anyone know about Culterelle? Would that be the same as Fem D? I need to compare them.

MG86-The feeling of having to pee could be a start of UTI or something. Drink lots of water and cranberry juice not cocktail. It always worked for me when I would feel that sensation. Yeah I'm also having a hard time finding the BA in capsule. I would totally try that too. I want to be done with this and feel normal down there!!!

Not sure why but my BV doesn't have an odor blink.gif I just have a slight burning sensation and sometimes feel pinchy in there. I know when I have it cause sorry but I'm going to be blunt here...as I'm peeing I have a pussy fart. ohmy.gif

It totally sucks cause I don't want to have sex anymore and it's ruining my relationship of four yrs!! I'm going to try a major precautionary system this time and see if it works. What do you guys think...take the clindesse, them use the Fem D, (orally right not internally right?), no sex for two weeks, and use a condom? I'm I being too anal??????? wacko.gif



I don't think you are being too anal. I had to quit having sex and then for several months hubby had to use a condom, he still doesn't "finish" inside of me because the ph of sperm is base ,your vagina should be more acid so just to get symptoms under control for me that is what we had to do

plus we went through several rounds of antibiotics and then I have stayed on the fem dolph and ultimate flora for over a year plus the folic acid, b complex peroxide douches and now the yeast arrest (i think maybe the yeast arrest is working a bit better than the peroxide douche but what comes out is really gross because of the herbs in it so I am going to try the plain boric acid next)
mfc10
QUOTE(JJ27 @ Mar 5 2008, 10:00 AM) *
I'm not a newbie anymore!!!!!! tongue.gif I haven't received my Fem D yet but the other probiotic I was taking said 3 x a day. I feel it's best to follow what it says on the bottle and from what I'm reading most of you had luck with Fem D. I can't wait to get mine. Does anyone know about Culterelle? Would that be the same as Fem D? I need to compare them.

MG86-The feeling of having to pee could be a start of UTI or something. Drink lots of water and cranberry juice not cocktail. It always worked for me when I would feel that sensation. Yeah I'm also having a hard time finding the BA in capsule. I would totally try that too. I want to be done with this and feel normal down there!!!


The strains of lactobacili in Femdophilus are not the same as in Culturelle. Gregor Reid is one of the patent holders for these very specific, patented strains.

One thing that helped me when I had bladder problems was marshmallow root tea. It is available in many health-food stores.

If you have a compounding pharmacy in your area, a doctor or nurse-practitioner can prescribe boric acid capsules for you. The compounding pharmacist makes them up. Mine added a little powdered acidophilus for good measure. They worked great! wink.gif

Cheers,
Maggie
sciongal
Hi all,
I just wanted to let you all know about a product I just started using. As you know for us gals that are dealing with BV, wearing thongs is not such a good idea, and some clothes just dont look good with granny panties on...so check out commandos patches. They are cotton patches that you put on the inside of your jeans or pants, so no lines. they have worked great for me with no irritation at all. Just thought I would pass it along...be well
whateverfitsyou
hey I've been doing the peroxide douching....so far so good! but I was wondering does the smell comes back during sex even after using the peroxide douches?....
lucecita
Hello... I'm new.

Question about the tea tree oil suppositories. I made my own out of 00 gel caps and put them in last night and the night before last. Now I have things coming out of me that are making me think I might have given myself a yeast infection! ACK. I've never had one before but from what I've heard, it seems to be one. Or is this a normal reaction to the tea tree oil?
jewelscando
QUOTE(lucecita @ Mar 6 2008, 04:08 AM) *
Hello... I'm new.

Question about the tea tree oil suppositories. I made my own out of 00 gel caps and put them in last night and the night before last. Now I have things coming out of me that are making me think I might have given myself a yeast infection! ACK. I've never had one before but from what I've heard, it seems to be one. Or is this a normal reaction to the tea tree oil?


Well... anything is possible, but don't use another one. I think the first one would have been good enough. It takes some time to disolve, so what you are seeing is the gel cap coming back out. But it usually looks like grimmy white stuff, sordof. lol. If you feel some burning, use some monistat on the outside of you, which will take it away. And it should be gone by tomorrow.

But, back to what I said, give the TTO time to work. Don't use another suppossitory for a few days. Wait and see what happens. I only use one 00 cap. And only need to fill it half way.

Good luck!! I hope it works for you!!! It's worked for me!
jewelscando
QUOTE(mg86 @ Mar 5 2008, 02:07 PM) *
Hi all - Ah, well I see the discussion is about FemDoph now...making me want to buy another bottle! smile.gif I took 2 pills daily for about 2 weeks, but didn't notice any difference. I am thinking that was not enough time and I should probably try it for longer. Do you think taking only ONE pill a day is enough? Because the bottle sure does empty quickly when taking two a day.

Also regarding Boric Acid, I can't seem to find it anywhere. Which area is it in? I have looked at Wal Mart and CVS but no luck. And does any health food store carry the 00 capsules? It would be sooo much easier to order online but the shipping is a pain.

Does anyone else have a feeling that they have to go pee when they really don't? It usually happens while I am on my period, but I've been feeling it a lot these past few weeks. No pain or burning during urination like a UTI. Also, I don't see much talk about itching on this thread, but that is one my major symptoms. And the smell, I'm not even sure how to describe it...SIGH!!

I am feeling so discouraged about this....

Hope you all are doing well!!


I found the boric Acid near the Peroxide. It's was on the bottom shelf. Looks like a big Vitamin bottle.

lucecita
QUOTE(jewelscando @ Mar 6 2008, 12:29 AM) *
Well... anything is possible, but don't use another one. I think the first one would have been good enough. It takes some time to disolve, so what you are seeing is the gel cap coming back out. But it usually looks like grimmy white stuff, sordof. lol. If you feel some burning, use some monistat on the outside of you, which will take it away. And it should be gone by tomorrow.

But, back to what I said, give the TTO time to work. Don't use another suppossitory for a few days. Wait and see what happens. I only use one 00 cap. And only need to fill it half way.

Good luck!! I hope it works for you!!! It's worked for me!


Thanks for the reply! Well, I'm not feeling burning, so maybe it's not yeast... I'm gonna wait a little bit and see what happens. It seems weird that it would give me a YI since TTO is usually a remedy for YI's. It kinda did look like grimy white stuff. I hope it was the gel cap! Did you see results right away or did it take a few days for you to notice a difference?
lori
QUOTE(sassy @ Mar 3 2008, 03:50 AM) *
Lori: Welcome back! That's great to hear! How long were you taking the Femdophilus before you saw any difference in your BV...just curious.


Hi Sassy! I took a course of flagyl, and began taking the Fem-dophilus as I was taking the flagyl. BV never came back (as it has before, many times). I took 2/day for a while, then 1/day.

QUOTE(jewelscando @ Mar 3 2008, 09:43 PM) *
LORI!!!!!!!! WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN HIDING!!!! WELCOME BACK HUN!!! I'VE MISSED YOU!!!!

So happy to hear that the Fem-dophilus worked for you!!! Congrats hun!! We will just agree to disagree on this topic. Because as we both know, what's worked for you, may not work for me and vice versa. I haven't tried the Fem yet, only because the Tea Tree Oil Suppossitories took mine away as well. I use them after sex, only because I'm afraid not too!! lol, not because I have too. So, for all I know, this was my cure too, but who knows.

Great to have you back Lori!!!

Hey Jewels! Missed you too!

I have to say though - I think it's just plain wrong to say that there is no cure. Flagyl cures BV. It just sets the stage for recurrence (by also killing off all the good bacteria with the bad). There is a difference between recurrence and relapse.

Anyway, I just want to address a few questions without quoting everyone individually. I hope this answers everything:

- Fem-dophilus is sold at Whole Foods in the probiotics section. (They keep all their probiotics refrigerated.)

- I think Cipro is prescribed for some vaginal problems (such as DIV, mycoplasma, ureaplasma, etc.) Ask your doctor.

- Thanks for putting up the Dr. Reid lecture. Awesome! I'll add it to my blog later. I would like to point out that women put Fem-dophilus in their vaginas as part of a clinical trial. Basically they're human guinea pigs, and also under doctors' care, in case anything goes wrong. And Dr. Reid made clear that this is not FDA approved use of his product. The reason I'm so anti- about putting this in your vagina is because I dropped by this thread a couple of months ago, and some ladies have obviously tried it, and have had bad results with weird stuff coming out of their vaginas afterwards. So ... I wouldn't do it. As always, it's your choice. But at the very least, see first if it works for you if you just take it orally.

I certainly hope that Dr. Reid is working on a vaginal product, though. Something like Monistat - a cream or suppository, that's safe to use. That would be awesome.

- I also want to point out - boric acid, TTO, peroxide etc. - I think it's been firmly determined that these remedies are not a cure. At best they just mask the symptoms. It's like using mouthwash, when your bad breath is caused by a health problem. It will freshen you up for a little while, but the problem won't go away. Also, I think the use of these products also inhibit the growth of the good bacteria, so you're not letting your vagina find the right balance.

I suffered with BV for over 7 years. Trust me, I know how awful it can be. And I know how it feels to be desperate to just get rid of it. I know what it's like to be afraid to have sex, afraid to uncross my legs, and sticking all sorts of things in my vagina just hoping and praying it would work this time. I even know how doctors can be such uncaring assholes who just don't fucking listen.

I'm so happy that that is finally behind me. I'm still paranoid that it will happen again, but I've been feeling good for about a year now. A healthy vagina shouldn't start stinking after normal activity - which includes unprotected sex with a healthy man, and getting your period. I know all about pH levels and stuff - and I used to dread sex and getting periods. But now I finally feel normal again. Just because you've been exposed to low pH for a while shouldn't mean it will mess you up right away.

So you guys need to let your vagina find the balance. Let it grow the good bacteria so it can fight off the bad stuff. That's the only answer. Fem-dophilus, people. Read this entire thread, and you'll see, it's the one thing that's really worked for anyone. I have tried so hard to not sound like a shill - because I freaking hate it when people trumpet cure-alls when they don't know what the hell they're talking about.

Also, I think all this boric acid and tea tree oil you guys are shoving up your coochies are not helping you in the long run. I understand that you guys are sick of the stinkiness - but this is about your health, not just about deodorizing your vagina. If your vagina is healthy, it won't smell nasty. So focus on the health.

- Oh yeah, I think someone already answered this question - but Culturelle is to help you poop. Like Activia yogurt. Won't help out your BV situation.
lisabon
Hi all, I'm sorta new-ish

About this BV from hell... I went to two Gynos and they both told me different things. Once said it was a slight yeast infection and gave me a prescription and then the other said it was BV and gave me a prescription. FYI... neither prescription worked so, I'm at a loss.(I didn't take them at the same time. They were taken months apart). Anyways, my discharge is on the slimy side. It sorta feels like snots (sorry to be so disgusting). The color is sometimes clear and sometimes white. It also makes me itch down there which I know is more of a yeast infection symptom. And the smell isn't awfully bad, but there is a stench none the less.

BV? Yeast infection? Anyone got any ideas?

Oh and I read that post about the B6? Since I'm desperate and all, I went out and boutht a bottle. It's been two days and can't say I've seen any changes. I'll continue taking them to see if a change occur though. *crosses fingers*
lucecita
QUOTE(lori @ Mar 6 2008, 01:46 AM) *
Hi Sassy! I took a course of flagyl, and began taking the Fem-dophilus as I was taking the flagyl. BV never came back (as it has before, many times). I took 2/day for a while, then 1/day.
Hey Jewels! Missed you too!

I have to say though - I think it's just plain wrong to say that there is no cure. Flagyl cures BV. It just sets the stage for recurrence (by also killing off all the good bacteria with the bad). There is a difference between recurrence and relapse.

Anyway, I just want to address a few questions without quoting everyone individually. I hope this answers everything:

- Fem-dophilus is sold at Whole Foods in the probiotics section. (They keep all their probiotics refrigerated.)

- I think Cipro is prescribed for some vaginal problems (such as DIV, mycoplasma, ureaplasma, etc.) Ask your doctor.

- Thanks for putting up the Dr. Reid lecture. Awesome! I'll add it to my blog later. I would like to point out that women put Fem-dophilus in their vaginas as part of a clinical trial. Basically they're human guinea pigs, and also under doctors' care, in case anything goes wrong. And Dr. Reid made clear that this is not FDA approved use of his product. The reason I'm so anti- about putting this in your vagina is because I dropped by this thread a couple of months ago, and some ladies have obviously tried it, and have had bad results with weird stuff coming out of their vaginas afterwards. So ... I wouldn't do it. As always, it's your choice. But at the very least, see first if it works for you if you just take it orally.

I certainly hope that Dr. Reid is working on a vaginal product, though. Something like Monistat - a cream or suppository, that's safe to use. That would be awesome.

- I also want to point out - boric acid, TTO, peroxide etc. - I think it's been firmly determined that these remedies are not a cure. At best they just mask the symptoms. It's like using mouthwash, when your bad breath is caused by a health problem. It will freshen you up for a little while, but the problem won't go away. Also, I think the use of these products also inhibit the growth of the good bacteria, so you're not letting your vagina find the right balance.

I suffered with BV for over 7 years. Trust me, I know how awful it can be. And I know how it feels to be desperate to just get rid of it. I know what it's like to be afraid to have sex, afraid to uncross my legs, and sticking all sorts of things in my vagina just hoping and praying it would work this time. I even know how doctors can be such uncaring assholes who just don't fucking listen.

I'm so happy that that is finally behind me. I'm still paranoid that it will happen again, but I've been feeling good for about a year now. A healthy vagina shouldn't start stinking after normal activity - which includes unprotected sex with a healthy man, and getting your period. I know all about pH levels and stuff - and I used to dread sex and getting periods. But now I finally feel normal again. Just because you've been exposed to low pH for a while shouldn't mean it will mess you up right away.

So you guys need to let your vagina find the balance. Let it grow the good bacteria so it can fight off the bad stuff. That's the only answer. Fem-dophilus, people. Read this entire thread, and you'll see, it's the one thing that's really worked for anyone. I have tried so hard to not sound like a shill - because I freaking hate it when people trumpet cure-alls when they don't know what the hell they're talking about.

Also, I think all this boric acid and tea tree oil you guys are shoving up your coochies are not helping you in the long run. I understand that you guys are sick of the stinkiness - but this is about your health, not just about deodorizing your vagina. If your vagina is healthy, it won't smell nasty. So focus on the health.

- Oh yeah, I think someone already answered this question - but Culturelle is to help you poop. Like Activia yogurt. Won't help out your BV situation.


Alright, I got it. Thanks for the info. I will get the Femdophilus. But is it a cure by itself or should it be taken along with Flagyl? I'm new to all of this, just trying to figure things out.
lori
QUOTE(lucecita @ Mar 5 2008, 11:04 PM) *
Alright, I got it. Thanks for the info. I will get the Femdophilus. But is it a cure by itself or should it be taken along with Flagyl? I'm new to all of this, just trying to figure things out.

No problem. Take fem-dophilus along with flagyl. The instructions tell you exactly what to do - but the basics are - take 2/day while taking the antibiotics, then 1/day for maintenance. But take them a few hours apart from the antibiotics, so they don't mix in your stomach at the same time.

As far as whether it's a cure ... I don't think they are allowed to say any OTC remedy is a cure (per the FDA). And I don't think that it is. It's meant to be used as a preventative.
CarrieBradshaw
TEA TREE OIL -- where do you buy this stuff??? I don't plan to use it for BV, however I have this neverending fungal infection between the webs of my fingers (GROSS, right?? and really, if it's not one thing, it's another!!!) and I've been reading that TTO can be a cure for fungal infections of the skin. HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's really hard not to be able to use my hands properly!! smile.gif
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