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sooo sad
QUOTE(reagan @ May 21 2008, 08:43 PM) *
Hello ladies. I am suffering with bv since my youngest son was born 8 years ago. I have been misdiagnosed on many ocassions. The smell is so bad during sex, my husband hates having sex with me. We only have it when he gets drunk so about three or four times a year. Then he can't keep it up. He hates talking about it and when we argue he tells me in a very crude way that I stink. What are the short term fixes with the smell and long term cure?


awww honey...i'm so sorry that you have had this damn bv for 8 years. well, right now i'm suffering too but i can tell you that alot of ladies here are taking femdophilus by jarrows. it's a probiotic designed especially for the vaginal tract and alot of the ladies here say it helps with the smell, including me. also, my advice, get treated but while on treatment take the femdophilus(recommended 2 while on antibiotics) or if you've been on alot of antibiotics, like most of us had and that shit just comes right back, you can try tea tree oil or boric acid. i've done the boric acid and when i stopped that shit came right back, but i wasn't taking femd at that time also. so maybe if i was, i would be better? who knows! i purchased some tto the other day and i think i'm gonna do that as maintenance after i try metrogel + femd. i have to wait cause i'm on the damn rag...always something coming up.

hope this was helpful,

sooo sad
sooo sad
QUOTE(lupe @ May 21 2008, 05:50 PM) *
I had asked this a couple days ago, but didn't get a response. Does the tea tree oil sting/burn your male partner? Do you use the TTO every night or what. Can someone tell me their regimen please. Also which is better for bv, tto or boric acid? This is great information, but it's information overload...


lupe,
sorry, i don't know too much about ba or tto. but what i do know is that when i used ba awhile back it helped but when i stopped that damn bv crap came back. i'm gonna try tto as maintenance so i don't know about that too much. look on jewelscando's blog. she cured herself from bv with just tto, but remember....everyone is different and what works for her might not work for you and vice versa.

sooo sad
newlife69
Hello Ladies,

I have not logged in for quite a long while. In my initial post I thought I had found somewhat of a "cure" with folic acid. It alone did not work. Like a lot of us, I went back to Metrogel in desperation. What a mess. I also tried the peroxide rinses which temporarily helped with the odor and discharge but left me rather dry during sex. One day I was catching up on this blog and read about the Fem-D. I couldn't find it anywhere. However, I did find something with similar ingredients (Primadophilus Reuteri by Nature's Way). I bought it at The Vitamin Shoppe. I began taking it on the first of May. With all the talk referencing imbalances I began to think that possibly I had a hormonal imbalance as well. Since my initial post I also had a vaginal hysterectomy (kept the ovaries). Yes, my periods were just that bad. Anyway, I googled hormone imbalances and began to read all about it. I took a couple of online surveys which surmised that I was suffering from estrogen dominance. So of course, I ran to my local GNC and purchased Femgest, a natural progesterone cream. I began using it on the fifth of May. Today things are much fresher below. I don't know if it is the synergy of both products or what. I am just thankful that something is working. I also take all of the recommended vitamins, minerals, and supplements. The progesterone has done wonders for my moodiness and energy. I am anxious to see what the long term results will be. I'll keep you posted.

Newlife
lori
Hey all, I put my blog back up. (link is in my sig) I was going to move it elsewhere, but the re-formatting is taking a looong time.

Some of the info. needs updating, and I'm still working on it. But since we have so many newbies around (hi ladies!) I thought it would still be useful as is.
hellotampon
I have BV again. I felt it brewing right after my last pap. It's probably the lube they put on the speculum. I don't use lube in my personal life because it gives me yeast and/or makes me feel "off." So now I have to schlep back there and they'll say they have to examine me again and I'll have to track down some lube that doesn't have fucking glycerin in it and ask them to use that... such a pain.
Kpasa
QUOTE(reagan @ May 21 2008, 07:43 PM) *
Hello ladies. I am suffering with bv since my youngest son was born 8 years ago. I have been misdiagnosed on many ocassions. The smell is so bad during sex, my husband hates having sex with me. We only have it when he gets drunk so about three or four times a year. Then he can't keep it up. He hates talking about it and when we argue he tells me in a very crude way that I stink. What are the short term fixes with the smell and long term cure?


short term fix: kick him in the balls

long term cure: divorce the bastard

seriously.
i hate it when any man acts like its YOUR problem that your vag is acting up when HE PUTS THE SHIT IN THERE!!#@%$

I SERIOUSLY THINK EVERYONE'S MAN SHOULD GO ON THE ACIDOPHILUS SHIT!!!! oh and make them drink a SHITload of water and juice a day so THEY get to bitch about something.

seriously all these winy men can come kiss MY ass. UGH
lori
QUOTE(Kpasa @ May 22 2008, 05:31 PM) *
short term fix: kick him in the balls

long term cure: divorce the bastard

seriously.

I have to agree with this.

A man who acts like this is probably someone who is selfish and mean in other ways, too.

QUOTE(Kpasa @ May 22 2008, 05:31 PM) *
I SERIOUSLY THINK EVERYONE'S MAN SHOULD GO ON THE ACIDOPHILUS SHIT!!!!

Probiotics really wouldn't hurt them in any way. Probably good for them, too. I'm not sure if it would help the BV situation, though.
neverending
QUOTE(reagan @ May 22 2008, 01:43 AM) *
Hello ladies. I am suffering with bv since my youngest son was born 8 years ago. I have been misdiagnosed on many ocassions. The smell is so bad during sex, my husband hates having sex with me. We only have it when he gets drunk so about three or four times a year. Then he can't keep it up. He hates talking about it and when we argue he tells me in a very crude way that I stink. What are the short term fixes with the smell and long term cure?


Ladies we are leaving tomorrow and I am soooooo happy. I hope we like it there. If not, we'll still check out Chicago, Seattle, Denver and maybe even Boston. I can't wait to move!

Anyway, I was lurking and I saw this post by you mrs. Reagan. This might be a little long but hopefully worth it.

First, everybody has a schedule. Before your husband comes home or whenever your going to be around your husband, take a sitz bath. Put either apple cider vinegar (and I know that it smells bad but once you get out and dry off, you'll hardly smell it), If you just can't put up with apple cider vinegar, try squeezing a couple of lemons in the water. Sit down and hold the lips open. Do this for about 10-15 min. That should help make the vagina more acidic. When you get out of the tub, the first thing you should do is dry the vagina first. Then take a q- tip and dip it in the SYLK lubricant and swril it around the inside of the vagina. The sylk will help you keep the ph of the vagina longer. wipe off any excess around the vagina. Ok, there is this stuff you can use to keep the heat down. It's called moistat intinmate care= chafing relief powder gel =fragrance free. Put this on the vagina on the outside. Then your ready for sex. He should have no problems. If you know your not going to have sex, do the above but add an extra step. on your underware, use vagisil deodorant powder=talc free= odor blocking protection. If you use the powder and he wants sex that day, go to the bathroom and wipe the powder off. If you don't, it may turn him off which will result in him not being able to keep it up.

On another note, I don't know if you shave or not but I would suggest trimming the bush if you know what I mean. Shaving is not more hygenic but it will help you keep the heat down. Either shave it all or trim it real low. Heat is a bad idea when you have to deal with something like this. It will multiply the bacteria.

OK, soaps! Most women like Dove soap but I like to go to the health food store and buy brand name: Auromere, it's Tumeric/ Sandlewood with Neem or try Peppermint Soap. These will help keep bacteria away.

Ok, underware! All I have to say is cotton will be your best friend until you can keep this away.If your problem is not that bad, cotton thongs will be ok, but if it's bad, cotton granny panties will have to do. Again, if you think you will get some (if you know what I mean) then slip in the bathroom and change into something sexy.

Ok, Sex! I'm not trying to get to personal but what you will have to do is entice (sp?) him again. I'm not trying to corrupt you (lol) but try going to the sex shop and finding something that will play into his fantasy. Hmmmmm...... Something he can't resist. Like, naughty school girl, hot teacher, a kitty outfit, Something. You should light candles or incense (sp?) and if you can, buy some sylk sheets. That should help. Also, use the Sylk Lub. during sex because again, it will help keep the PH in the right place which is what you want.

Last but not least, sit down with your husband and tell him if he can't be respectful/ supportive, you will delete him from your life. No one should put up with mistreatment AT ALL. Tell him you don't need his verbal/ emotional abuse. Marriage should be about teamwork and lifting each other up not down. Tell me who can function properly in an harsh environment. You don't need his childishness! There was a guy that came in here a while ago (jason44 or jason 34) and he gave us a little info on his wife and told us about how he found her cure, I thought "HE found her cure". Now THAT is LOVE! I wish more men were like him. He is a dream!

As far as long term treatment: I think you may have a hormonal imbalance. I know one of my high school friends had BV after every child she had but hers went away with meds everytime. Lucky her right?! I think with some ladies, the hormones never bounce back for some reason. I've noticed that most of the ladies here either had a child, hysterectomy (sp?), started/stopped birth control, or are in menopause when the BV started for them.

Anyway, I know this is long but I hope this helps!
Chiao!

wanabfresh
QUOTE(Kpasa @ May 22 2008, 07:31 PM) *
short term fix: kick him in the balls

long term cure: divorce the bastard

seriously.
i hate it when any man acts like its YOUR problem that your vag is acting up when HE PUTS THE SHIT IN THERE!!#@%$

I SERIOUSLY THINK EVERYONE'S MAN SHOULD GO ON THE ACIDOPHILUS SHIT!!!! oh and make them drink a SHITload of water and juice a day so THEY get to bitch about something.

seriously all these winy men can come kiss MY ass. UGH



not sure if im posting right its only my second post an I dont wanna speak 2 soon, but I really have to say that FEM DOPHILUS really works
I began about a week ago an seen such amzing results no discharge, no smell, no nothing an I just want to thank u guys for this suggestion
thanks alot an I'll be posting soon for later results
THANK GOD FOR THE MAKERS OF THIS PRODUCT
lori
QUOTE(neverending @ May 23 2008, 07:48 PM) *
First, everybody has a schedule. Before your husband comes home or whenever your going to be around your husband, take a sitz bath. Put either apple cider vinegar (and I know that it smells bad but once you get out and dry off, you'll hardly smell it), If you just can't put up with apple cider vinegar, try squeezing a couple of lemons in the water. Sit down and hold the lips open. Do this for about 10-15 min. That should help make the vagina more acidic. When you get out of the tub, the first thing you should do is dry the vagina first. Then take a q- tip and dip it in the SYLK lubricant and swril it around the inside of the vagina. The sylk will help you keep the ph of the vagina longer. wipe off any excess around the vagina. Ok, there is this stuff you can use to keep the heat down. It's called moistat intinmate care= chafing relief powder gel =fragrance free. Put this on the vagina on the outside. Then your ready for sex. He should have no problems. If you know your not going to have sex, do the above but add an extra step. on your underware, use vagisil deodorant powder=talc free= odor blocking protection. If you use the powder and he wants sex that day, go to the bathroom and wipe the powder off. If you don't, it may turn him off which will result in him not being able to keep it up.

Reagan, please don't do any of these things.

If you take a bath while holding your vaginal lips open for 10 minutes, it is the same as douching - worse, actually. Every source, and every clinical and anecdotal evidence ever written, all say that douching is bad for BV. Many ladies in here have posted that douching caused BV, or made it worse. It can even lead to Pelvic Inflammatory Disease.

I recommend that you read The V Book, written about women's health by a Harvard professor. One of the things she recommends is avoiding douching and baths if you're dealing with BV. So don't just take my word for it.

The rest of neverending's advice is pretty much useless, too. Keep in mind that BV is not just about the smell, it's about making you healthy - untreated BV can lead to health complications. And when you're healthy, the smell will go away, too. So you need to work on restoring the balance in your vagina, and not stuff your vagina full of powders and sprays just to cover up the smell, which only make the situation worse.

Also, definitely do not let any crackpot on the internet with her own agenda diagnose you with a hormonal imbalance.

As far as your husband goes, if he doesn't appreciate you, sexy clothes won't solve anything. Focus on valuing yourself, and making yourself healthy.
sooo sad
hi ladies!

can anyone give us a bv update? would like to know how ya'll are doing!!!

for me... i'm gonna start metrogel this week for 7 days + femd (4pill per day until finished and probably for a couple more weeks after)...and do maintenance with tto. hopefully this works.....keeping my fingers crossed...

sooo sad
damselindistress
QUOTE(sooo sad @ May 27 2008, 12:07 PM) *
hi ladies!

can anyone give us a bv update? would like to know how ya'll are doing!!!

for me... i'm gonna start metrogel this week for 7 days + femd (4pill per day until finished and probably for a couple more weeks after)...and do maintenance with tto. hopefully this works.....keeping my fingers crossed...

sooo sad


I will share. I was planning to wait a little longer before I shared any news, but so far so good. My last venture was with tea tree oil. I found the suppositories online and used them for 5 days. They were these little waxy bullet-like things. I didn't have any burning or big mess or anything. The smell came out in the wash. Like Jewelscando said, "you smell it when you pee, but that's about it". On the sixth day I made my own gelatin capsule with TTO like she suggested just to see (the suppositories were 14 bucks for 6 - expensive). It was super cheap to do it that way. The TTO started to melt the capsule b4 I inserted, so I had to hurry. I felt the slightest sensation from the tea tree being stronger, but no problem at all. I haven't had any discharge, smell, anything for a week, then just got my period. After the monthly friend, gonna use a TTO cap for good measure and see what happens! Good luck, hope your MO changes to sooo HAPPY soon!
By the way, my doc said none of the usual vaginal suspects showed up on culture, but I still had a bacterial infection. She said it could be a different strain of bacteria from my body, intestines, rectum, whatever that's plagueing me. She said that's why the standard vaginal medicines weren't working and that I needed to try a different antibiotic b/c they aren't all for the same thing. Even though I haven't had any problems (even after sex, BTW), I am taking CIPRO for a week orally. CIPRO is what my fiance took for prostatitis. We'll see.
sooo sad
QUOTE(damselindistress @ May 28 2008, 01:57 PM) *
I will share. I was planning to wait a little longer before I shared any news, but so far so good. My last venture was with tea tree oil. I found the suppositories online and used them for 5 days. They were these little waxy bullet-like things. I didn't have any burning or big mess or anything. The smell came out in the wash. Like Jewelscando said, "you smell it when you pee, but that's about it". On the sixth day I made my own gelatin capsule with TTO like she suggested just to see (the suppositories were 14 bucks for 6 - expensive). It was super cheap to do it that way. The TTO started to melt the capsule b4 I inserted, so I had to hurry. I felt the slightest sensation from the tea tree being stronger, but no problem at all. I haven't had any discharge, smell, anything for a week, then just got my period. After the monthly friend, gonna use a TTO cap for good measure and see what happens! Good luck, hope your MO changes to sooo HAPPY soon!
By the way, my doc said none of the usual vaginal suspects showed up on culture, but I still had a bacterial infection. She said it could be a different strain of bacteria from my body, intestines, rectum, whatever that's plagueing me. She said that's why the standard vaginal medicines weren't working and that I needed to try a different antibiotic b/c they aren't all for the same thing. Even though I haven't had any problems (even after sex, BTW), I am taking CIPRO for a week orally. CIPRO is what my fiance took for prostatitis. We'll see.

hi damselindistress!!

thanks for sharing....are you also taking femd while doing the tto?

sooo sad
damselindistress
QUOTE(sooo sad @ May 28 2008, 02:29 PM) *
hi damselindistress!!

thanks for sharing....are you also taking femd while doing the tto?

sooo sad


Hey, there! I've been taking the Femdophilus, but not religiously. I'm not sure I'm such a believer, at least not for me. I tried taking that with and after both Flagyl and Clindesse and it didn't keep the BV away, even with two a day. Oh well. If it weren't so expensive, I'd keep taking it, but I might just finish out this bottle and stick with buying the big tubs of yogurt and using TTO for maintenance. Let me know what works for you....when you find it....I'll keep you posted on this tea tree thing. smile.gif
sooo sad
QUOTE(damselindistress @ May 28 2008, 02:59 PM) *
Hey, there! I've been taking the Femdophilus, but not religiously. I'm not sure I'm such a believer, at least not for me. I tried taking that with and after both Flagyl and Clindesse and it didn't keep the BV away, even with two a day. Oh well. If it weren't so expensive, I'd keep taking it, but I might just finish out this bottle and stick with buying the big tubs of yogurt and using TTO for maintenance. Let me know what works for you....when you find it....I'll keep you posted on this tea tree thing. smile.gif


hi again hunnie!!!

i will keep you posted...hopefully we can beat this darn thing. i'm gonna do metrogel this week but i was thinking about doing the non-diluted tto first to see if that works (i'm still taking femd cause it makes my discharge less but yes hun...it's so darn expensive!!!!) keeping my fingers crossed for all of us......

sooo sad
jewelscando
QUOTE(lori @ May 22 2008, 04:47 AM) *
Hey all, I put my blog back up. (link is in my sig) I was going to move it elsewhere, but the re-formatting is taking a looong time.

Some of the info. needs updating, and I'm still working on it. But since we have so many newbies around (hi ladies!) I thought it would still be useful as is.


THANK YOU LORI!!!! If you haven't checked out Lori's blog, please do so!!! LOTS AND LOTS OF GREAT INFORMATION!!!

Lori is good you all!! She knows her stuff!!!

TTO still workin for me... The last time I was here, I was feeling a little strange down there. Had to take some Penicillin for a tooth infection, so to be on the safe side, I used 1 TTO. Still no smell, and still going strong.

I also found out that the more I read these boards, the more I stress!! HAHAH, that's why you all don't see me very often. I still love you all, but have to force myself not to constantly be thinking about itty bitty fish heads crawling around my lower body!!!

Anyways, that's my short and sweet update!!
sooo sad
man!!!

i did metrogel for one day and i have a really bad yeast infection now....damn!!!!! i don't know anymore. i guess i'm gonna do boric acid for a few days then tto to see how that goes.... any suggestions?

thanks in advance....sooo sad
ESINED
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This is my first blog, and I would like to say HI! TO ALL. rolleyes.gif I had a strong fishy odor years ago when I had gotten an IUD. My husband and I both had to take, I believe it was flagyll, because initially I took the flagyll only and the problem kept arising. The doctor told me my husband had to take the flagyll at the same time I did, or the problem would continue because he would pass it back to me, and vice versa. The web site link I have included above talks about the diagnosis my doctor gave me,Trichomoniasis. I have been long since divorced but had my appendix removed while married. I still am not happy with the strong odor I get and am wondering if my appendix being removed has anything to do with it. I am concerned because as odd as it seems the smell is even fishier when I eat sea foods, which I love dearly. My delima, eat my sea foods and be alone, or think about getting re-married again by giving them up. I am presently celibate for over a decade but still am not comfortable with my vaginal odor, especially after eating sea food. Please only intelligent responses to this life altering problem. By the way my doctors currently always says everything is normal, even when pap smears are taken. rolleyes.gif Thank You!!!!!!
lori
QUOTE(ESINED @ Jun 1 2008, 01:39 PM) *
blink.gif [topic="Bacterial Vaginosis http://www.cdc.gov/STD/Trichomonas/STDFact...asis.htm#HowGet[/topic]
This is my first blog, and I would like to say HI! TO ALL. rolleyes.gif I had a strong fishy odor years ago when I had gotten an IUD. My husband and I both had to take, I believe it was flagyll, because initially I took the flagyll only and the problem kept arising. The doctor told me my husband had to take the flagyll at the same time I did, or the problem would continue because he would pass it back to me, and vice versa. The web site link I have included above talks about the diagnosis my doctor gave me,Trichomoniasis. I have been long since divorced but had my appendix removed while married. I still am not happy with the strong odor I get and am wondering if my appendix being removed has anything to do with it. I am concerned because as odd as it seems the smell is even fishier when I eat sea foods, which I love dearly. My delima, eat my sea foods and be alone, or think about getting re-married again by giving them up. I am presently celibate for over a decade but still am not comfortable with my vaginal odor, especially after eating sea food. Please only intelligent responses to this life altering problem. By the way my doctors currently always says everything is normal, even when pap smears are taken. rolleyes.gif Thank You!!!!!!

Trich is an STD, BV is not. However, the symptoms for the two are similar, and can be confused.

Since you had Trich in the past, even though you have been treated for it, I would suggest that you ask for a Trich-specific test from your GYN. Pap smears and wet preps are only about 60% accurate for diagnosing Trich, so you want to make sure.

Have you ever been diagnosed with BV by your GYN?

Anyway, ruling out Trich and other STD's is very important, and the first place to start. Once you figure out exactly why you're getting the odor, then you can figure out your next move.
lori
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Metamorphose
Hi Guys!! I'm new here. Well I suffered the same fate as many of you. The following steps helped me tremendously and (touch wood) I haven't had this problem for years.

- Wear panties ONLY when there's no other option ( like your nose, your vagina likes to breathe) NEVER EVER sleep, wearing panties.
- Do NOT use soap in your pubic area - water was good for many years before soap and will remain good after soap. Do not use a washcloth or any other clothy thingy ( it will trap bacteria) - nothing wrong with using a bare hand.
- Stay away from condoms with spermicide - it may kill sperm, but is to yeast as chocolate is to cellulite. Use a condom though, since your boy's juices may be reacting with yours, then the ph goes all haywire and we begin allover once more...... Oh yes, avoid friction. In other words, lubricate well. Lubricate using only water based lubricants, or however gross this may seem, saliva is best (again the old ph thing)
- Eat lots of yogurt with live cultures - bacterial yeast do not like yogurt much.
- Trim the hairs down there - it acts as an anchor for bacteria, Hell go all out and do the Brazillian (take gas mask along for beautician, or better yet, make booking at a town at least an hour's drive away. You are least likely to bump in to the beautician again, using that route)
- Drink water, and I mean plenty!!!! At least 12 tall glasses per day - clean water, nothing added, nothing subtracted. Not only will it dilute all bad bacteria, it will also help with any skin condition. If you don't like water, sorry, but drink it none the less....
- Get interflora, or probi-flora, or flora by any other name at your pharmacy or health store. This neutralises ph and will lift symptoms tremendously. All doctors in South Africa prescribe this immediately along with any other medication related to BV.

- Last, but by far not least. If you are REALLY REALLY at your rope's end, fly out to South Africa. Our doctors are excellent in this field. You get an ultrasound with every check-up (we are prone to uterus problems); they take vaginal swabs every 6 months and do cultures on them; they call you back within 36 hours and ask which pharmacy they can fax your prescription to. They will even put you on anti depressants if your condition affects your mood too much. I'm telling you, apart from what CNN shows, South Africa is light years ahead in the medical field. I can speak from experience - I lived in New York for 7 years and came back home. Like a lot of you, I too struggled to find a doctor who would take time to listen to what I had to say. Best of luck to all of you, and I hope the small input helps at least some of you.
mg86
Hi everyone

I haven't posted here for awhile now, and haven't really been reading the posts either. I have just had a lot going on, and since I am not involved with anyone right now I kind of put my girl problems on the back burner. As sad as it is, sometimes I feel like I am doomed to have this for the rest of my life, so I try to get used to it and deal with it.

I've had this for just a few months short of 2 years now, and I want it gone for GOOD! I have not been to a gyno in about 1 year. I am going later this month for a regular check up and to let him in on the fact that my infection was NOT gone when he told me it was one year ago. I do not really like this doctor at all, but I am going to be moving in less than 2 months. I need to have my yearly exam and get my BC prescription refilled before I move. Have any of you had any bad doctor experiences? The man I see did his job I guess, I mean he did the exams and tests,...I wasn't crazy about him, but it bothered me that he would 'forget' about sending off test results, etc. Twice he ran a test that supposedly tested for basically everything, but he was hesitant because he said the insurance companies didn't like it because it was very expensive. Well that's just too bad! But I didn't say that because I am too quiet smile.gif. Anyway, once he sent the test off the second time, when I asked for the results a few weeks later, he didn't even remember! The girl had to go and call the lab and have them fax over the results. At one point where my BV was gone for like 2 days, I had an appointment, he literally looked at me for 5 seconds, said it was "all gone' and sent me on my way. I couldn't believe he didn't do any follow up testing or anything like that. Ugh, well that's my rant on him.

Anyway, several weeks ago I was having a very thick discharge, a lot of itching, and at times I thought it was cottage cheesy looking. So I sucked it up and treated myself for a yeast infection with the 3 day Monistat. It came with an anti-itch cream which was relief for whatever was causing the itching, and as much as I had hoped, it did nothing for whatever is going on down there. I can't even describe the smell. I GUESS it smells kind of fishy/rotting, but I don't know. I can often smell it through my clothes. It is so embarrassing.

When I go to the doctor this month I am going to use FemD throughout the whole course of treatment. I have done this once before (with oral Flagyl- which I absolutely REFUSE to take again) but I don't think I took the FemD for long enough. I just want this gone for good. I am so jealous of other women with normal vaginas!! I know it could be sooo much worse, but this is so frustrating.

So I just wanted to say hello again, I'll be reading the posts now for now on, I can't back track, it's just too overwhelming for me smile.gif. But I wish you all the best of luck and hope we can all get back to normal again!!
mg86
QUOTE(Metamorphose @ Jun 4 2008, 05:59 AM) *
Hi Guys!! I'm new here. Well I suffered the same fate as many of you. The following steps helped me tremendously and (touch wood) I haven't had this problem for years.

- Wear panties ONLY when there's no other option ( like your nose, your vagina likes to breathe) NEVER EVER sleep, wearing panties.
- Do NOT use soap in your pubic area - water was good for many years before soap and will remain good after soap. Do not use a washcloth or any other clothy thingy ( it will trap bacteria) - nothing wrong with using a bare hand.
- Stay away from condoms with spermicide - it may kill sperm, but is to yeast as chocolate is to cellulite. Use a condom though, since your boy's juices may be reacting with yours, then the ph goes all haywire and we begin allover once more...... Oh yes, avoid friction. In other words, lubricate well. Lubricate using only water based lubricants, or however gross this may seem, saliva is best (again the old ph thing)
- Eat lots of yogurt with live cultures - bacterial yeast do not like yogurt much.
- Trim the hairs down there - it acts as an anchor for bacteria, Hell go all out and do the Brazillian (take gas mask along for beautician, or better yet, make booking at a town at least an hour's drive away. You are least likely to bump in to the beautician again, using that route)
- Drink water, and I mean plenty!!!! At least 12 tall glasses per day - clean water, nothing added, nothing subtracted. Not only will it dilute all bad bacteria, it will also help with any skin condition. If you don't like water, sorry, but drink it none the less....
- Get interflora, or probi-flora, or flora by any other name at your pharmacy or health store. This neutralises ph and will lift symptoms tremendously. All doctors in South Africa prescribe this immediately along with any other medication related to BV.

- Last, but by far not least. If you are REALLY REALLY at your rope's end, fly out to South Africa. Our doctors are excellent in this field. You get an ultrasound with every check-up (we are prone to uterus problems); they take vaginal swabs every 6 months and do cultures on them; they call you back within 36 hours and ask which pharmacy they can fax your prescription to. They will even put you on anti depressants if your condition affects your mood too much. I'm telling you, apart from what CNN shows, South Africa is light years ahead in the medical field. I can speak from experience - I lived in New York for 7 years and came back home. Like a lot of you, I too struggled to find a doctor who would take time to listen to what I had to say. Best of luck to all of you, and I hope the small input helps at least some of you.


Just wanted to say thanks for making me laugh, especially that part about the gas mask for the beautician!! smile.gif I am glad to find that you have had success. Thanks for the advice too. I definitely need to drink more water and eat more yogurt!!
Bodil
Hello all

Please help me! I am new here!

I have been diagnosed with Strep A vaginosis, which is apparently a quite rare condition. For a long time, different doctors thought that I had a yeast infection, but it finally became clear in December 2007 that it was strep A. I had a course of penicillin, but it came back just after the treatment stopped. I have since tried to cure myself, with hydrogen peroxide douches, coconut oil, something called Ladybalance (a lactose product), and more or less one week ago I started eating Stong lactobacillus pills twice a day (Udo's Choice). (I am a UK resident and we cannot get the Fem-Dophilus here.) My self treatment seems to alleviate the symptoms, but they are difficult to keep in check, esp. between my ovulation and my period. Symptoms are a rash on my vulva and perianal area and a thick, almost greasy discharge clinging to the vaginal walls. No smell. I am not sure whether the probiotics help.

I have read on the blog you keep here that a vaginal strep infection can be caused by taking antibiotics. I had the same suspicion. I had several cures of antibiotics last year. The British doctors love prescibing antibiotics, and since I have never really had it before, I wasn't aware of the consequences. I have had symptoms at least since July 2007.

What can I do? Should a Strep A infection be cured in the same way as normal BV? Or does anyone know whether I should get a certain kind of antibiotics to get rid of it? am afraid that it is a dangerous infection which will affect my reproductive health.
Doctors don't seem to know anything and I don't trust them anymore.

I am 31 years old, and have never been pregnant.

Good luck to you all!!
lori
QUOTE(Bodil @ Jun 9 2008, 04:13 AM) *
I have read on the blog you keep here that a vaginal strep infection can be caused by taking antibiotics. I had the same suspicion. I had several cures of antibiotics last year. The British doctors love prescibing antibiotics, and since I have never really had it before, I wasn't aware of the consequences. I have had symptoms at least since July 2007.

What can I do? Should a Strep A infection be cured in the same way as normal BV? Or does anyone know whether I should get a certain kind of antibiotics to get rid of it? am afraid that it is a dangerous infection which will affect my reproductive health.
Doctors don't seem to know anything and I don't trust them anymore.

I am 31 years old, and have never been pregnant.

Good luck to you all!!

Hey Bodil!

I highly recommend that you read The V Book:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Book-Doctors-Compl...6644&sr=8-1

That's where I got the info. about strep for my blog. I don't know much about it, but the book will tell you that it's not treated with the same antibiotics as for BV.

And trust me, U.S. doctors love prescribing antibiotics, too.

Good luck! I think it's good that at least, you got a diagnosis for strep. Better than being kept in the dark about what's really wrong.
danger bettie
wtf. really girls...we have to deal with this sh*t....

Just came from Ob visit...tests will take a week to return. so, i have to wait a week for any diagnosis.(and meds) From reading all your posts I have self diagnosed with BV. And my practitioner agrees, but is waiting for test results for treatment. I have Mirena....the devil inside your uterus. Seems us mirena girls are prone to bv. Thanks for all the informative posts and blogs you guys have up. they have really helped..wish me luck... ohmy.gif This will be a long week....arrrrr
nicolemr
Hello
Like most here I stumbled across this forum in search of relief. I have been battling BV since 12 yrs of age. My doctors advice then "make sure you wipe front to back" really thanks bc i like to put my poo in my vagina (sarcasm). So i had bv a few times since then and then for the past couple of years (I am 28 now) things just have not been right. I went to a gyno who scraped me for cancer which was the worst pain!!! even though he said there would be no pain, I also get chronic yeast infections which another gyno told me that that is not possible, um yeah right. so i finally found a decent doctor who sent for tests and diagnosed me with bv again and told me"make sure you wipe front to back"!!!! again I have always wiped front to back what the hell? He gave me an antibiotic which didn't make a difference and now I do not have insurance . But the doctor did run alot of tests and wasn't dismissive.


Anyway I have been trying the HP I know not a cure but wow one day without wet panties is great.

For yeast, acidophilus on its own does not help me. For supplements I am taking a probiotic formula with several diff cultures, drinking kefir, taking garlic, omega 369, and multivitamin. Hope this helps someone, since for some bv and yeast seem to be related.

Thanks for letting me rant.
Bodil
Hi Lori,
Thanks very much and thanks for your very informative blog. I read the short chapter (two pages as far as I can see) on Amazon yesterday after I had posted this.) It's amazing! Now I will get an appointment with my doctor (who is very kind and helpful, thankfully) and get her to prescribe ten days of Amoxillin. I really hope I don't get all sorts of side effects afterwards.

QUOTE(lori @ Jun 9 2008, 02:08 PM) *
Hey Bodil!

I highly recommend that you read The V Book:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Book-Doctors-Compl...6644&sr=8-1

That's where I got the info. about strep for my blog. I don't know much about it, but the book will tell you that it's not treated with the same antibiotics as for BV.

And trust me, U.S. doctors love prescribing antibiotics, too.

Good luck! I think it's good that at least, you got a diagnosis for strep. Better than being kept in the dark about what's really wrong.

sooo sad
hi beautiful ladies!!!!

just a lil bv update....

last time i posted i was gonna do metrogel for 10 days and femd but after 1 day of metrogel i got a realllly bad yeast infection, so i decided to do the boric acid thing since i had some from the last time i used it...i think march of this year. i did boric acid for about 9-10 days and i doubled up on the femd. one thing i don't like about boric acid is that it leaks out during the day and it's gross, then last night i did a tto capsule like jewelscando wink.gif . it is like a cough drop being blown up your cochie for real. stings a little but i can handle it...the sensation is more "cool" than a burning one. i think i'm gonna do like 1 or 2 more nights of it and wait to see....hopefully it works!!!!

hopefully i can be like you jewelscando!!!!!

sooo sad
jewelscando
QUOTE(sooo sad @ Jun 10 2008, 03:09 PM) *
hi beautiful ladies!!!!

just a lil bv update....

last time i posted i was gonna do metrogel for 10 days and femd but after 1 day of metrogel i got a realllly bad yeast infection, so i decided to do the boric acid thing since i had some from the last time i used it...i think march of this year. i did boric acid for about 9-10 days and i doubled up on the femd. one thing i don't like about boric acid is that it leaks out during the day and it's gross, then last night i did a tto capsule like jewelscando wink.gif . it is like a cough drop being blown up your cochie for real. stings a little but i can handle it...the sensation is more "cool" than a burning one. i think i'm gonna do like 1 or 2 more nights of it and wait to see....hopefully it works!!!!

hopefully i can be like you jewelscando!!!!!

sooo sad


ME TOO!!! I have excellent results with TTO. In fact, I can't tell you, what a relief it is to have sex, whenever I want, compared to, making excuses and praying that the smell won't suddenly show up!!!

TTO suppositories was a god send for me. I can't explain why it works for me, I just know it did. I'm b.v. free.

Good luck ladies!!
damselindistress
QUOTE(jewelscando @ Jun 10 2008, 10:03 PM) *
ME TOO!!! I have excellent results with TTO. In fact, I can't tell you, what a relief it is to have sex, whenever I want, compared to, making excuses and praying that the smell won't suddenly show up!!!

TTO suppositories was a god send for me. I can't explain why it works for me, I just know it did. I'm b.v. free.

Good luck ladies!!

Hey, Jewelscando! I'm trying to have a "can do" attitude, but it's not easy. Okay, this might be a little gross, but I have to ask. After being treated with Cipro, actually WHILE being treated with Cipro, I started seeing symptoms of BV again. I used the tto supp. for a couple of days. A few days later, I had gobs of sticky, white stuff coming from down below. I cleaned it out with my fingers as much as possible, had sex the next day, used tto the following night. Yesterday, a little irritation in my girlie bits and when I checked, I had this white thick stuff coming out. I cleaned that out too, took a whiff, all of it smells like tto. Does this happen to you? I was thinking maybe it's from the veg capsule, but it was A LOT. I don't want to run to the dr. if I don't have to.
jewelscando
QUOTE(damselindistress @ Jun 11 2008, 12:33 PM) *
Hey, Jewelscando! I'm trying to have a "can do" attitude, but it's not easy. Okay, this might be a little gross, but I have to ask. After being treated with Cipro, actually WHILE being treated with Cipro, I started seeing symptoms of BV again. I used the tto supp. for a couple of days. A few days later, I had gobs of sticky, white stuff coming from down below. I cleaned it out with my fingers as much as possible, had sex the next day, used tto the following night. Yesterday, a little irritation in my girlie bits and when I checked, I had this white thick stuff coming out. I cleaned that out too, took a whiff, all of it smells like tto. Does this happen to you? I was thinking maybe it's from the veg capsule, but it was A LOT. I don't want to run to the dr. if I don't have to.


I don't use Veg Capsules. I use 00 Gelatin caps which are made of Gelatin and Water. So, after about a week, sometimes little tiny pieces of the gel cap will come out, if it didn't all disolve.

Maybe do research on Veg caps, and see if they are disolvable, or if this is normal.

Also, are you being treated for Yeast? I don't really know what Cipro is used for. Therefore, if it wasn't the Veg caps coming back out, it sounds like you have a deeper issue.

Also, ladies on another note.. I've said this before. Another reason I feel my BV is gone, is because it is NO LONGER my 100% focus. As you can see, I don't post here very often, and I don't even lurk. I love you all to death, but constantly thinking about BV, I feel, brought on stress for me, which, didn't help my symptoms. I go days without even thinking about it. And I refuse to worry about it. Just a thought... I know it's easier for me, being that I have no symptoms now, but it hasn't always been like that.

Good luck ladies!!
damselindistress
QUOTE(jewelscando @ Jun 11 2008, 10:33 AM) *
I don't use Veg Capsules. I use 00 Gelatin caps which are made of Gelatin and Water. So, after about a week, sometimes little tiny pieces of the gel cap will come out, if it didn't all disolve.

Maybe do research on Veg caps, and see if they are disolvable, or if this is normal.

Also, are you being treated for Yeast? I don't really know what Cipro is used for. Therefore, if it wasn't the Veg caps coming back out, it sounds like you have a deeper issue.

Also, ladies on another note.. I've said this before. Another reason I feel my BV is gone, is because it is NO LONGER my 100% focus. As you can see, I don't post here very often, and I don't even lurk. I love you all to death, but constantly thinking about BV, I feel, brought on stress for me, which, didn't help my symptoms. I go days without even thinking about it. And I refuse to worry about it. Just a thought... I know it's easier for me, being that I have no symptoms now, but it hasn't always been like that.

Good luck ladies!!

Duh, I meant that they are gelcaps, the 00 just like you said. The health store pharmacist said they weren't to be used as suppositories though, but I did it anyway since it's working for you. I guess I was hoping this goo was from the capsule and nothing else. I was taking the Cipro, an antibiotic, b/c my culture didn't show any of the normal types of bacteria associated with BV, yet I had all the symptoms. I think I've come to the conclusion that I have viral vaginitis, from HPV, and there really isn't anything I can do other than try to control it. Thanks for your help and I'm happy you kicked some BV ass!
neverending
VIRAL VAGINITIS CAUSED BY HPV:


HPV can cause vaginosis or vaginitis with vaginal discharge that is commonly misdiagnosed as bacterial vaginitis or vaginosis caused by candida, gardnerella, or trichomonas. HPV infection may cause vulvar pain and itching. In all cases of vaginosis or vaginitis, a Digene test should be done to look for HPV; however, if the Digene test is negative, keep in mind that this does not rule out HPV because only 1/3 of the HPV types are detected by the Digene test.
Dermatol Clin 1998 Oct;16(4):817-22:

Human papillomavirus. Subclinical and atypical manifestations.

Strand A, Rylander E Department of Medicine, Dermatology, and Venereology, University Hospital, Uppsala, Sweden.

"Subclinical HPV infections, together with latent infections, are probably the most likely outcome after exposure to HPV. Subclinical infection is associated with symptoms such as burning, fissuring, and dyspareunia (painful intercourse) in some patients. Recently, results have been presented showing a median duration of HPV infection of only 8 months, and after 24 months, only 9% of the women studied continued to be infected. This provides the possibility to reassure patients with HPV infection that it is most likely a transient infection, and one should not worry unduly."

Patients with depressed or defective immune systems and smokers are the ones who most frequently become symptomatic from HPV infections. Most others will develop immunity before clinical symptoms can occur. Once clinical symptoms such as genital warts, cervical dysplasia, vaginosis, or vaginitis develop, immune support should be used.

http://www.health-science-report.com/alote...cs3/article112/

Indole 3 Carbinol should be your best friend. Do the research for yourself and you will see. Also,try to keep your body as alkaline as possible. TrY to break the virus down as much as possible. You should also drink Aloe Vera and try Beta Mannan (sp?), the product is probably in the link I posted.

Read up on Dr. Hulda Clark, Dr. Joe Glickman,& Dr. Royal Rife

STAY AWAY FROM STRESS And don't worry 1 in 4 women have HPV and it does go away on it's own but like I said before, It's likely you'll catch another strain of it again because it's that common and with the virus being able to pass through latex, there is really nothing you can do but get every guy you date to do a HPV screen test to see what strains of Hpv he has and to be honest that does not solve anything because most people have HPV. Now, I don't know why your HPV has resulted in Vaginitis. Maybe it has to do with the strain you have. Dunno, but keep your head up! Geez, I remember all the tests I had to go through. The false positives, the meds, the HELL. YES, i know how you feel. Anyway, thanks for sharing your info with us. I now know why most doctors tested me for Herpes Simplex 1 & 2, & HIV ALL THE TIME. Viral Vaginitis! Who Knew there was such a thing?! Knowledge is power! Also again, what Jewels says is true. Not thinking about your BV or viral vaginitis should help some, and stay away from the penis in your life until things get better.

http://std.about.com/b/2007/02/27/one-in-f...ed-with-hpv.htm

Peace!

sassy
I use the veg capsules since I'm vegan (and in my opinion, gelatin is GROSS) and they work fine with the boric acid. They dissolve in a day and then come back as a light clear discharge. Fem D coming in a gelatin capsule is one of the main reasons I've hesitated buying it. unsure.gif
damselindistress
Thanks guys for all of your suggestions. This place has been very helpful. I'm out for now. If I ever find the mystical cure, I'll let ya know! wink.gif
mg86
has anyone tried Femanol? I'm sure it is in the thread here somewhere, but for some reason I can't find it using the search feature. I came across it on Amazon - $67 for 60 capsules... yikes. But I'm willing to try anything at this point. I'll definitely be ordering some more Fem D though, to pair with whatever the doctor prescribes at my visit in a few weeks. I just want to beat this thing for good!! have a good weekend everyone.
pympmama1
Hey guys

I lurk more than I post... been a member for yrs I just wanted to let everyone know....I stared using FLORAMORE I got it at the wholefood
It is a probotic and it worked great... What I did was i went to the doctor and got metrogel....(i know it does not work by itself) and then took the floramore once in the morning and once in the evening and had activa yogurt in the middle of the day... it is back to normal now... no more nasty smell... I smelled like me again... after years of bv suffering.... if this is what I have to do to allow my stomach to have the bacteria it need it is worth it.....Oh yeah it was like 24 or 25 bucks for it at whole food it is the fridge kind so keep it in the fridge... I would not buy it online b/c it will not come refrigerated and if it iis not keep cold the bacteria will die .. Oh yeah it comes with 60 caps

Also Jewel is right i stop allow it to be in the for runner of my thoughts... My gyno say stress makes it reoccur... the funny thing is he asked me was i stressed and i could not answer the question really.... b/c we all go through a little stress so I was like I don't knw... he just laughed and gave me my meds

Thought I would share
Hi never and Sassy


Without change something sleeps inside you and seldom awakens
sooo sad
QUOTE(pympmama1 @ Jun 14 2008, 06:15 AM) *
Hey guys

I lurk more than I post... been a member for yrs I just wanted to let everyone know....I stared using FLORAMORE I got it at the wholefood
It is a probotic and it worked great... What I did was i went to the doctor and got metrogel....(i know it does not work by itself) and then took the floramore once in the morning and once in the evening and had activa yogurt in the middle of the day... it is back to normal now... no more nasty smell... I smelled like me again... after years of bv suffering.... if this is what I have to do to allow my stomach to have the bacteria it need it is worth it.....Oh yeah it was like 24 or 25 bucks for it at whole food it is the fridge kind so keep it in the fridge... I would not buy it online b/c it will not come refrigerated and if it iis not keep cold the bacteria will die .. Oh yeah it comes with 60 caps

Also Jewel is right i stop allow it to be in the for runner of my thoughts... My gyno say stress makes it reoccur... the funny thing is he asked me was i stressed and i could not answer the question really.... b/c we all go through a little stress so I was like I don't knw... he just laughed and gave me my meds

Thought I would share
Hi never and Sassy
Without change something sleeps inside you and seldom awakens



hey pympmama1!!!

i had a few questions to ask ...if you don't mind, since you're a pymp and all wink.gif (JK sweetie)

i tried metrogel a few weeks ago, actually just one night and i had this weird toilet paper..specks..discharge coming out. sorry for being graphic. i was so frustrated i threw it away and cried for about an hour. but then i was doing research and i came across this wesite and alot of the women that used it experienced that same thing....did you? if you did, how long does it take to go away? i'm thinking about doing it for the whole course....10 days, but it's so expensive and i don't have insurance...like $65 dollars. i've had this damn thing for a year now and it's really depressing. i cry almost every other night cause i can't even function and enjoy my life with my kids and boyfriend. i'm doing the boric acid and tto right now and it's not working that well... still itchy and discharge. i tried oral flagyl + fem d (still doing fem d) and i still had discharge after treatment. are you doing maintanence? how long have you been bv free? oh, and i bought floramore over the weekend...thanks to you! gonna add it to the rest of my collection of vitamins...lol!!!

thanks sooo much in advance...

sooo sad
dani1983
Arr! so one month ago i went to the doc to get my follow-up pap exam (6 months after i was first diagnosed wiht hpv) and the results came negative, THANK GOD!! but...they said i did have BV. Which is what i thought i had 3 months ago but when i went to get tested they said i didn't have it (even though i had the discharge and a weird odor...not bad though, it was just weird). So when i got a letter last week telling me i had BV, i wasl ike WHAT they told me i didnt have it! so i went today and they told me to take 2 flagyls per day for a week. I took one that same morning (yesterday) and it instantly cut the discharge and the smell! like, they disappeared one hour after i took the first pill, and I'm not even kidding! is this normal?? has this happened to anyone before? i hope i dont get it back. i mean, thankfully it wasnt as bad as some ladies have gotten it here, but it is still weird how quickly my body answered to that pill......
Oh and when I asked them why three months ago when they first tested me for BV came negative (even though I had the symptoms) and now it came positive, the doctor said that before it wasn't "100% developed into BV". I don't know what on earth she meant by that.
sassy
dani: Not to be a downer, but I think Flagyl does help most of the ladies here...the problem is keeping it that way. I know when I use Flagyl, the smell is gone within a few days, but it comes back as soon as the treatment is finished. My advice is to take Lori's advice and try take the Fem-D probiotic while on the Flagyl...maybe then the infection will not return. Good luck!
pympmama1
I have been bv free for a little over 4 months after 5 years of constant re occurances.... The side affect of metro gel is normal. No maintenance other than taking flora more and eating yogurt... I forgot one thing I cut out eating alot of bread... I have maybe a veggie( i eat meat) sandwich once a week and sometimes 6 croûtons on my salad. I cut down dramatically on eating breads and sugars.

QUOTE(sooo sad @ Jun 16 2008, 01:56 PM) *
hey pympmama1!!!

i had a few questions to ask ...if you don't mind, since you're a pymp and all wink.gif (JK sweetie) LOL: tongue.gif

i tried metrogel a few weeks ago, actually just one night and i had this weird toilet paper..specks..discharge coming out. sorry for being graphic. i was so frustrated i threw it away and cried for about an hour. but then i was doing research and i came across this wesite and alot of the women that used it experienced that same thing....did you? if you did, how long does it take to go away? i'm thinking about doing it for the whole course....10 days, but it's so expensive and i don't have insurance...like $65 dollars. i've had this damn thing for a year now and it's really depressing. i cry almost every other night cause i can't even function and enjoy my life with my kids and boyfriend. i'm doing the boric acid and tto right now and it's not working that well... still itchy and discharge. i tried oral flagyl + fem d (still doing fem d) and i still had discharge after treatment. are you doing maintanence? how long have you been bv free? oh, and i bought floramore over the weekend...thanks to you! gonna add it to the rest of my collection of vitamins...lol!!!

thanks sooo much in advance...

sooo sad

sooo sad
QUOTE(pympmama1 @ Jun 19 2008, 07:21 AM) *
I have been bv free for a little over 4 months after 5 years of constant re occurances.... The side affect of metro gel is normal. No maintenance other than taking flora more and eating yogurt... I forgot one thing I cut out eating alot of bread... I have maybe a veggie( i eat meat) sandwich once a week and sometimes 6 croûtons on my salad. I cut down dramatically on eating breads and sugars.



pympmama1


thanks for your reply sweetie...i really appreciate it. i will start the metrogel after i'm finished with my period...hopefully i can be bv free like you. i'm really tired of this darn crap....

i've also cut on bread and sugars tremendously...for about a year now and it does help alittle and with my weight too...i lost about 13-15lbs without even trying tongue.gif ....

good luck to all of us bv challenged ladies!!!!!!!!!!!!
Princessj
Hey ladies! i been up all night so i figured i'd finally create an account. I've been reading the thread and its been really helpful, its good to have the support of other women in the same boat! Anyways, lets get down to business i'll tell you my story (because i haven't found any similar occurences among anyone in the blog world so far)...


About the last week of May i had sex with my boyfriend twice (different days) and it was INTENSE biggrin.gif . Anyways, I felt like that good "itchy" feeling right before you have an orgasm... for the next couple of days, but its like it NEVER went away.
I wanna say about first week of June, i continued to have this crazy itch. I had some mild itching and pain on the vula but it wasn't mostly on the outside of the vagina, it was on the inside....up in there almost like someone was tickling me, or a pinching sensation that wouldn't go away...it was driving me insane. I figured i had gotten a yeast infection, but i didnt show any signs of cottage cheese like discharge or any type of gross discharge at all, so i figured ok i'm just itchy, i'll use some Vagisil and call it a day. So i know i had some in my bathroom and i grabbed it, applied and was out the door. It wasn't that bad for a while, i just hated the mess and the new routine i had to go through everytime i went to the bathroom.


Before i did anything else i called my Ob/gyn office and tried to make a same day appointment, which was not possible. I spoke to the triage nurse and i told her what was going on, and she suggested i had a yeast infection and just to buy a Monistat 3 and if it doesnt work or gets worse to call back and make an appointment. I wasn't convinced because i've had a yeast infection before and this wasn't it so i didn't buy the Monistat.

Now this next part is completely my fault.

The itch seemed to be getting worse, (still on the vulva) and it was starting to become unbearable... i was thinking maybe i should buy something else at the pharmacy? Or maybe a new tube of vagisil, because all of the sudden i realized i wasn't sure when the last time i had to use it or how long it had been in my bathroom... i couldn't find the expiration date on it so i figured the best thing to do would be to just buy a new one. So i did, along with the Vagisil odor blocking medicated wipes. Well when i got home later on that night i showered, used all the new stuff... then i saw the expiration date on the new tube and grabbed the other one to see if it was in the same spot. Well, it was! Its actually at the end of the tube but hard to see on the ridges that seals it off and it was to be expired in 06! So now i started freaking out...because i noticed that same day i started to all of the sudden see off-white looking, not thick, but not watery discharge so i thought great...a possbile yeast infection! so i was like, DAMN. I called the next day, but after being put on hold endlessly, and being transferred to voicemails at the doctors office i gave up and just dealt with it for the next day.

So now since i see signs of a yeast infection, and i feel serious crazy nerve pinching feeling inside the vagina.... i decided to go ahead and buy the Monistat 3. I was hesitant, but at this point i was looking to anything for relief. I inserted the medication, which by the way that applicator is horrible and it hurt! it was still ITCHING AND PINCHING INSIDE!!! driving me absolutely crazy!!!! i tried to take my mind off of it and some how managed to fall asleep. I woke up the next morning feeling relief...i was like OH WOW...could this be it? finally?--- i definitely spoke to soon, the minute i rolled out of bed the feeling came back and MORE INTENSE NOW blink.gif. Now i've had it! i called the doctors office again and the nurse gave me possible openings and i took the first one i could, hopped on the highway and was doing like 85 to the doctors other office like 30 minutes away. After explaining everything that i had just went through, and enduring the pinching and itchy pain on the way there..my doctor said i had Bacterial Vaginosis. I said, Bacterial Who? lol he prescribed Clindesse, and the nurses in the office were all shaking their heads, agreeing and telling me that this is a awesome product. I left with a sigh of relief...

I used the Clindesse and followed all the instructions, almost immediately my discomfort had gone from about a 10 to a 2 rolleyes.gif I was SO HAPPY....for a few days the medicine came down and then that was it. No more itch, pinch or pain...thank god! A couple days later though i started to notice my skin down there was really dry, appearance wise and in touching. I also saw a build up in the whole exterior part of the vagina, like a clay???? or really how i can describe it is like when you shower and you rub your skin and your dead skin cells and oil come off in the form of a clay like substance? I dont know.. i figured i was ok and it would get back to normal as time went.

Well i took Clindesse on Friday June 6th, and didnt have sex again until Sun. June 15th... giving it more than the suggested 5 days before having sex again. This time it was really painful to have sex. I didnt enjoy it at all and my boyfriend could tell something was definitely different, i dont think he enjoyed it either in term leaving me feeling really bad sad.gif. I thought maybe by shaving down there like i had before would make it better for next time, because it just felt really dry and course down there. Well i did, and i went for another try on Thurs. June 19th, this time he helped out...the situation was a little more lubricated and it was alot better. I cant help but notice that i dont really feel as much as used to when we have sex...its like the nerves disappeared? or the sensation is lost? this SUCKS sad.gif and to top it off i'm still dealing with the build up, and the extreme vaginal dryness. I wonder if i should try anything in the pharmacy to rejuvinate my friend down there (i've read about rephresh?)...or should i just go back to the $40 co-pay 5minutes up on the table with my legs spread doctor??? Does anyone else have this issue? Had this issue? has this happend to anyone else after using Clindesse? Side effects of Clindesse? I've read the pamphlet that comes with it but anything else would be helpful....Sorry for the long story...just maybe someone out there could relate since i didnt find anyone to relate to or many websites with info...any advice is appreciated!!! thanks!!!!!!!!!! -- 1st time with BV unsure.gif


lori
Hi Princessj,

I'm thinking maybe the antibiotic (Clindesse) might have given you a yeast infection? That happens sometimes.

It's also possible that you're having a reaction to the drug. Clindesse is not popular in this group, and some ladies are very against it. I don't remember the exact reasons, but clindamycin (the medicine in Clindesse) can apparently cause more side effects, and someone found research that shows that it causes other types of infections (e.g., e.coli, mycoplasma, etc.)

Not to scare you - most likely, it's yeast or something.

And yes, using the expired Vagisil probably wasn't a good move. But don't beat yourself up about it. In my opinion, don't use any Vagisil or other types of OTC products in the future. They never fix anything, but just mask symptoms. If something is wrong, you really want to get it checked by a doctor and fix it.

So my suggestion is - yes, it sucks to pay another co-pay, and have another set of latexed fingers up your vaj again. But I'd make another trip to the doctor. Make sure they don't just brush you aside because they treated you recently. Don't be rude, but be firm - let them know that you're very uncomfortable and very worried.

Good luck! I'm sure you'll be okay. Just be proactive, instead of sitting around worrying about it.
neverending
Well ladies, I don't know what is going on because I have not been under any stress at all and I've felt happy and overall great, but today there was this faint odor with green discharge kinda frothy and bubbly. Now, my husband and I had "raw" sex right before my period started. The days I take the Nuvaring out. I've gained 7 lbs since then and my feet are starting to swell.My stomach has also started to pudge a little. My aunt said it was possible to get pregnant between those days. Does anyone know if this is true? I know when someone is pregnant they have discharge but what color is it? Usually white right? I've heard it being called as leukrrhea (sp?). Sheesh, I really don't need pregnancy right now or std. I've only had sex with my hubby but my hubby loves the ladies BIG TIME. It sucks! It's going to take me a while to get to the doctor to get tested. I've never had green discharge before. I thought maybe it was the nuvaring because it is a foreign object so I took it out. This is sooooo gross. It's been a year or so since I've had these problems. I do suspect my husband was cheating but I have no way of proving it other than him smelling like perfume. yeap, men right?! I just hope I don't have an std. I remember letting him cum in. Anyway, where are my ladies. Jewels where are you honey? I hope all is good with you. peace ladies!
konphusion26
QUOTE(neverending @ Jun 24 2008, 03:58 AM) *
Well ladies, I don't know what is going on because I have not been under any stress at all and I've felt happy and overall great, but today there was this faint odor with green discharge kinda frothy and bubbly. Now, my husband and I had "raw" sex right before my period started. The days I take the Nuvaring out. I've gained 7 lbs since then and my feet are starting to swell.My stomach has also started to pudge a little. My aunt said it was possible to get pregnant between those days. Does anyone know if this is true? I know when someone is pregnant they have discharge but what color is it? Usually white right? I've heard it being called as leukrrhea (sp?). Sheesh, I really don't need pregnancy right now or std. I've only had sex with my hubby but my hubby loves the ladies BIG TIME. It sucks! It's going to take me a while to get to the doctor to get tested. I've never had green discharge before. I thought maybe it was the nuvaring because it is a foreign object so I took it out. This is sooooo gross. It's been a year or so since I've had these problems. I do suspect my husband was cheating but I have no way of proving it other than him smelling like perfume. yeap, men right?! I just hope I don't have an std. I remember letting him cum in. Anyway, where are my ladies. Jewels where are you honey? I hope all is good with you. peace ladies!

I'm on nuvaring too, and the only problem I've had from it is yeast. That green discharge sounds like an STD babe. You seriously don't need to let that continue - please go the free clinic or something if you can't afford a regular doc. Waiting could cause more harm if it is an STD. I do hope your husband hasnt been unfaithful and gave you something. Wow, that doesn't sound good at all. It would really suck to be pregnant and have an std. PLEASE GO GET CHECKED immediately.
JoanClayton
Hey Ladies,

(long vent, feel free to pass if you'd like!)

I haven't been posting because I have been so frustrated and just depressed over this whole thing, which has now been back ongoing since Nov. of 07. The smell started to get so bad that every morning after I showered I would put a tampon in to keep the smell "up there" until I was home for the day (this worked to "trap the smell", and I felt better to have no smell during the day and to have dry undies. However, I know it is bad to use tampons, and everyday at that, but this infection makes us all resort to crazy things to get a little relief). I haven't taken any vitamins or antibiotics in over 30 days or more. I wanted to give myself a chance to "flush" out everything and start over. I attribute fatigue/laziness directly to these infections. I notice a distinct difference when I am afflicted (constantly tired, never feel rested, always wanting to sleep) and when it seems to have cleared up. I also associate hair growth and nail growth (or lack of) with this as I notice a distinct difference here also (hardly any new growth of nails or hair, when I feel like I don't have it, I have noticed that my nails, for one, grow so fast I need to get them trimmed at the shop every other week).

So anyhow, today I decided to fight back again, I still haven't seen a doctor, I'm just so sick of them and they don't help, and the lack of concern they show is very discouraging, and to feel like a repeat patient who is annoying them when I am suffering I just don't want to go back (I know you probably think I should Lori, and I would go back if I thought that it was really going to change something or help me. (It sucks too, because I have excellent insurance)

I feel that if I have BV/TRICH/YEAST, one or all of these, which are so similar, and hard to differentiate, or one causes the other (treat BV and acquire a yeast infection) then I will never get rid of any of it if I treat one but not the other. Somy mindframe is I want to take a chance and try to treat for all of this.

Here is what I did today:

I remember maybe in 2004 someone discussed how they used a probiotic called Primadophilus Reuteri, I went to www.vitacost.com and ordered 2 bottles of those at $5.39 a piece and $4.99 shipping. Total was $15.77 (30 pills each, I will take one a day, and I will have a 2 month supply)

Then I remembered the FemD, I have previously purchased these, but let them sit in the fridge too long (I thought) so I went to vitadigest.com and ordered 1 at $17.98 (don't know if it will have an ice pack or not, 30 pills) I also ordered the FloraMore Advanced that was mentioned here, 120 pills $23.99. The shipping and handling for both items was $6.99. Total was $48.96

Lastly I went to medrx-one.com to order some Metronidazole 400mg (or Flagyl) 30 pills for $26.24, BONUS: FREE SHIPPING!

I was really going to get the Estroil that Piano Girl and Neverending raved about, for $15 at drhelen.com, but I got really freaked out because it said that side effects included potentially causing breast and or cervical cancer. I do think my hormones could possibly be a problem though and I really want to get them checked. (Neverending, any new views on Estroil?)

Just a side note. I also feel that this infection lessens my immunes system ability to fight off the common cold. As a child and all through high school, I would get sick maybe once a year. Now I get colds more often. I also am always cold. Sometimes I go way overboard and think I might have AIDS or HIV, my last test in 2004 said I didn't. I know I need to be tested again. To be honest, I'm scared. And I only had 5 partners in my whole life and 2 were long term.

I remember Jason34 or something who told us all about the B-6, I brought some from Target for about $5 or $6 I will take those also. I brought a case of Disani water as I know that I will have to really drink a lot of water to help flush, balance, and process all of this. I also have boric and empty pill capsules should I need it for the yeast thats in there or will be in there...I also have my One A Day Womens, "Energy" multi-vitamins that I am supposed to be taking everyday. I may get some Omega 3 w/ fatty acids vitamins as that is supposed to help with stress and some other reason it was supposed to be beneficial...but for now, I'm holding off, all this other crap is enough.

I have really cut down on sweets which I love to death. So I hope that has been worth it, I haven't really be "craving" them though, so I don't or wont buy it. I have only been eating it at boring work, but I'm going to try to cut down some more.

I know it might seem like a lot and drastic, but I'm over being depressed and just want to fight back with a vengeance. But I'm going to try to be really consistent and positive with taking the vitamins and Metronidazole, and also the water, which I think is just as important as the Metronidazole.

I have not had sex since Nov. 2007. My stats, if anyone thinks these things are relevant: I am 24 years old, Black. Non smoker (never smoked before), very light coffee drinker. I have had this problem or "similar" since I was 18 years old- BEFORE I became sexually active. The longest period I didn't have any symptoms, after having them was 6 months straight, after being sex free for over a year plus. I wasn't taking any antibiotics or vitamins either to "maintain" the symptom free status. I know for a fact that intercourse makes these symptoms come.

I will let you guys know what happened. I just blew $100 bucks, hopefully it will be worth it. I will be sure to keep you guys posted.

I really need to research the effects of taking multiple vitamins everyday, imput anyone?

One last thing,

I feel like I have a really good arsenal of things, in what ways should I incorporate or introduce them into my body? I'm going to do the Fem D and Metronidazole together, but as far as all the other ones I want to take, esp. the B-6, Floramore and Reuteri, (the One a Day too, because everyone should take a multivitamin every day, regardless of age, even kids) (I know I have to take all of this with a meal or after I eat, but I know I should take things in time intervals so one wont X out the other) I used to take all my vitamins at once, as not to forget, but have since read some where that that is not an effective way to do it. Vitamins also make me very nauseous and sometimes cause me to gag, I wonder why.

I am SO SICK OF THIS, I HATE IT. Plus I really, really miss sex, and this is the only reason why I'm not having any. I wish all of us luck and thanks for letting me vent. My life is going so good this year. This is the one area that depresses or stresses me. Work life, social life, family life, etc. is going how I want it to. My health is kicking my ass. Well, we CAN'T have it all, or CAN we???

Ps. I am so thankful that I found this site and am not alone. I get so mad at all the money that word of mouth gets us to spend on all the vitamins though. I also have been reading on this website today: http://forums.wrongdiagnosis.com/showthrea...8341&page=4 It reminded me about the Reuteri.
sooo sad
neverending sweetie.........

i'm sorry to hear that but i also agree with konphusion26 that you need to get checked immediately....us ladies have alot to deal with already and to add on top of it a ...cheating spouse!!! it's not fair. the best of luck to you hunnie and keep us posted ...you will be in my prayers!!!

sooo sad
sooo sad
joanclayton babe........

i wish us ladies didn't have to go thru all this damn crap...i've been suffering since 2007 too (since june to be exact). i've tried flagyl + the femd and the discharge was always still there but the bv was gone...i had the affirm test done at dr's office but itching started about 2-3 weeks later and i knew it was back. i've tried boric acid and tto but it just masks the symptoms for me. my next thing i'm gonna try is metrogel and femd and floramore and yogurt and a bunch of other vitamins that i'm already taking. i have to wait for my period though...he's on his way...lol! hopefully you will get better with the flagyl and femd...it didn't work for me. i'm thinking maybe i need local treatment to get to the specific site instead of oral but who knows blink.gif

i've also spent soooo much money on this damn bv it isn't funny...but WE WILL find what works for us!!! oh...and i really miss having sex too...damn, i feel for my boyfriend. he's so understanding, if it was someone else i think he would of been long gone...... you know, it's not just having sex, it's sharing something special with someone that you really love and it just makes us feel more connected. we've been together a little less than a year and we've probably had sex only about 10 times cause of this damn shit....i don't feel sexy at all. no lingerie or anything like that yet. i hope i can soon. the more i think about it i'm gonna cry. sometimes i don't feel like a woman at all.......

keep us posted sweetheart!!

sooo sad
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