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upset
hey everyone. im new to the thread. Im just so upset. 4 days ago i had sex (using toys)and i notice a day later i had this "aweful" smell....
I have never ever ever had this issue. as i read on the forums, and on many websites, it seems i have BV. I am beyond upset about this and im totally embarass to call the doctor. Ive read on numerous forums to try to the folic acid. i took 1 pill yesterday and 1 today, and nothing seems to have changed.
any suggestions? will this just go away!? im due for my menstral cycle in about 7 days.. .would it just go away after that since i nvr had this before? i appreciate any info sad.gif
sooo sad
upset.........


hon.....you should make an appointment with your gyn as soon as you can. to be on the safe side i wouldn't self diagnose anything cause bv, trich, and yeast have very similar symptoms. if it is bv,my advice is to get treated and while on treatment take a probiotic too...like femdophilus. you should read lori's blog. she has some great information, but first......go to the doctor sweetie.....hope this helps and hope you get better.

sooo sad
mg86
advice needed

hey ladies

I need your advice on a potential event this weekend...yesterday I found out that someone I have not seen in a long time is possibly coming for a visit. I am really excited about this, but also nervous...there is a pretty good chance that things could get physical and I am soo worried about this BV stuff! I haven't done anything in over 8 months now. Right now I am on my period but it is very light..there is a slight odor...I hadn't been doing any special treatment because I am scheduled for a doc visit next Tuesday. I started taking Fem D again (2 pills a day) this past Monday.

This visit will (if it happens) take place on Saturday evening. What should I do??? I don't want to say anything about it but I also don't want to risk that he will end up being completely grossed out..

Thanks in advance
JoanClayton
Mg86,

If you want to have sex with him and want to be 100% sure to be odor free in that time frame I would take some Flagyl a couple days before he comes. You wont be able to drink alcohol, I would say for about a week, but I know that you would not have any smell at all. I would also make sure to use a condom. That is another reason why I'm not having sex, because I'm so scared that somehow I will give this to a guy.


Anyway, I got my FemD and FloraMore today!!! That was fast! Still waiting on the Flagyl and Reuteri...
sooo sad
mg86

well, you know how some doctors say that bv can't be passed back and forth. my man went with me to the dr and i told him about how my bv is and maybe it's being passed back and forth and yadda yadda...so to shut me up he said that they would test him with the affirm test just to see if i was correct....well that test came back positive for BV!!! he didn't have any discharge or anything...dr was baffled. so my man got treated but we've made sure not to have sex until i'm cured (don't know when that will be!!!) but hon, there are other things you can do to ...he can pleasure you manually and you can do him orally, but make sure he doesn't do you orally....
just a little F.Y.I....it can be passed back and forth cause it can grow and live at the tip of the penis. damn, i know...what freakin luck we have.......lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sooo sad
lisabon
I feel optimistic!!!

First time in like forever since I got BV. Went to a new gyn today (switched cause my other one gave me the flagyl and cyn - something and when those didn't work, he pretty much said 'oh well, can't help you') Decided to just deal with the BV on my own for a while, did research, joined this site, tried different things etc. Anywhos, today I went in for my annual exams and just in warning told the Dr. I had BV, thinking he'd be like the other dr's and pretty much tell me he could't help with my issue. To my surprise, he seemed very educated on the subject matter. Explained to me about the whole bad bacteria being more abundant than the good etc etc. He even went on to describe the type of discharge I had and told me why.

Let me explain. I have two types of discharge. The clear discharge which looks like mucous (snots pretty much), then thicker white discharge that looks like milk. He told me that the clear mucous looking discharge occurs when I'm ovulating and the white discharge comes when I'm coming close to getting my period. He explained why this is, but I was sorta spazzing. I got a little too over excited to see that this Dr. actually knew what the heck he was talking about and was spot on in my symptoms. Whoo hoo! AND, he seemed interested in helping me get rid of this thing.

Long story cut short, he prescribed me boric acid supp. I told him I already tried that, by buying the capsules and filling them myself. He told me it's a specific type dosage yada yada (Wasn't even half listening cause I was still spazzing). Took the rx and brought it to 5 different pharmacy before one of them had it in stock. GYN told me to use the supps for 2 weeks then come back in. Oh and best of all, my ins. covered that visit 100 %. Hope that's the case for my next.
neverending
Funny thing today ladies, my mom must have noticed how fat my ass has gotten because she came and said "you know, there's a new weight loss place here" and TRIED TO GIVE ME THE ADD IN THE PAPER. LOL! OH, WELL. I'll go to the doc soon!
mg86
joan & sooo sad..

Thanks for your replies...unfortunately I only had a few days notice so I wasn't able to take Flagyl or anything. But my period has become heavier, so I am hoping if we do do anything the regular dischage & odor won't be there. It seems to be ok..I am just so ridiculously paranoid about the odor..anyway, wish me luck, I will let you know how it goes..

lisabon

I am glad you found a gyno who seems knowledgeable and understanding. Sad how hard it is to find a good doctor who listens and educates you. I wish you luck with everything !:)
heavinlyangel
QUOTE(JoanClayton @ Jun 24 2008, 10:20 AM) *
Hey Ladies,

(long vent, feel free to pass if you'd like!)

I haven't been posting because I have been so frustrated and just depressed over this whole thing, which has now been back ongoing since Nov. of 07. The smell started to get so bad that every morning after I showered I would put a tampon in to keep the smell "up there" until I was home for the day (this worked to "trap the smell", and I felt better to have no smell during the day and to have dry undies. However, I know it is bad to use tampons, and everyday at that, but this infection makes us all resort to crazy things to get a little relief). I haven't taken any vitamins or antibiotics in over 30 days or more. I wanted to give myself a chance to "flush" out everything and start over. I attribute fatigue/laziness directly to these infections. I notice a distinct difference when I am afflicted (constantly tired, never feel rested, always wanting to sleep) and when it seems to have cleared up. I also associate hair growth and nail growth (or lack of) with this as I notice a distinct difference here also (hardly any new growth of nails or hair, when I feel like I don't have it, I have noticed that my nails, for one, grow so fast I need to get them trimmed at the shop every other week).

So anyhow, today I decided to fight back again, I still haven't seen a doctor, I'm just so sick of them and they don't help, and the lack of concern they show is very discouraging, and to feel like a repeat patient who is annoying them when I am suffering I just don't want to go back (I know you probably think I should Lori, and I would go back if I thought that it was really going to change something or help me. (It sucks too, because I have excellent insurance)

I feel that if I have BV/TRICH/YEAST, one or all of these, which are so similar, and hard to differentiate, or one causes the other (treat BV and acquire a yeast infection) then I will never get rid of any of it if I treat one but not the other. Somy mindframe is I want to take a chance and try to treat for all of this.

Here is what I did today:

I remember maybe in 2004 someone discussed how they used a probiotic called Primadophilus Reuteri, I went to www.vitacost.com and ordered 2 bottles of those at $5.39 a piece and $4.99 shipping. Total was $15.77 (30 pills each, I will take one a day, and I will have a 2 month supply)

Then I remembered the FemD, I have previously purchased these, but let them sit in the fridge too long (I thought) so I went to vitadigest.com and ordered 1 at $17.98 (don't know if it will have an ice pack or not, 30 pills) I also ordered the FloraMore Advanced that was mentioned here, 120 pills $23.99. The shipping and handling for both items was $6.99. Total was $48.96

Lastly I went to medrx-one.com to order some Metronidazole 400mg (or Flagyl) 30 pills for $26.24, BONUS: FREE SHIPPING!

I was really going to get the Estroil that Piano Girl and Neverending raved about, for $15 at drhelen.com, but I got really freaked out because it said that side effects included potentially causing breast and or cervical cancer. I do think my hormones could possibly be a problem though and I really want to get them checked. (Neverending, any new views on Estroil?)

Just a side note. I also feel that this infection lessens my immunes system ability to fight off the common cold. As a child and all through high school, I would get sick maybe once a year. Now I get colds more often. I also am always cold. Sometimes I go way overboard and think I might have AIDS or HIV, my last test in 2004 said I didn't. I know I need to be tested again. To be honest, I'm scared. And I only had 5 partners in my whole life and 2 were long term.

I remember Jason34 or something who told us all about the B-6, I brought some from Target for about $5 or $6 I will take those also. I brought a case of Disani water as I know that I will have to really drink a lot of water to help flush, balance, and process all of this. I also have boric and empty pill capsules should I need it for the yeast thats in there or will be in there...I also have my One A Day Womens, "Energy" multi-vitamins that I am supposed to be taking everyday. I may get some Omega 3 w/ fatty acids vitamins as that is supposed to help with stress and some other reason it was supposed to be beneficial...but for now, I'm holding off, all this other crap is enough.

I have really cut down on sweets which I love to death. So I hope that has been worth it, I haven't really be "craving" them though, so I don't or wont buy it. I have only been eating it at boring work, but I'm going to try to cut down some more.

I know it might seem like a lot and drastic, but I'm over being depressed and just want to fight back with a vengeance. But I'm going to try to be really consistent and positive with taking the vitamins and Metronidazole, and also the water, which I think is just as important as the Metronidazole.

I have not had sex since Nov. 2007. My stats, if anyone thinks these things are relevant: I am 24 years old, Black. Non smoker (never smoked before), very light coffee drinker. I have had this problem or "similar" since I was 18 years old- BEFORE I became sexually active. The longest period I didn't have any symptoms, after having them was 6 months straight, after being sex free for over a year plus. I wasn't taking any antibiotics or vitamins either to "maintain" the symptom free status. I know for a fact that intercourse makes these symptoms come.

I will let you guys know what happened. I just blew $100 bucks, hopefully it will be worth it. I will be sure to keep you guys posted.

I really need to research the effects of taking multiple vitamins everyday, imput anyone?

One last thing,

I feel like I have a really good arsenal of things, in what ways should I incorporate or introduce them into my body? I'm going to do the Fem D and Metronidazole together, but as far as all the other ones I want to take, esp. the B-6, Floramore and Reuteri, (the One a Day too, because everyone should take a multivitamin every day, regardless of age, even kids) (I know I have to take all of this with a meal or after I eat, but I know I should take things in time intervals so one wont X out the other) I used to take all my vitamins at once, as not to forget, but have since read some where that that is not an effective way to do it. Vitamins also make me very nauseous and sometimes cause me to gag, I wonder why.

I am SO SICK OF THIS, I HATE IT. Plus I really, really miss sex, and this is the only reason why I'm not having any. I wish all of us luck and thanks for letting me vent. My life is going so good this year. This is the one area that depresses or stresses me. Work life, social life, family life, etc. is going how I want it to. My health is kicking my ass. Well, we CAN'T have it all, or CAN we???

Ps. I am so thankful that I found this site and am not alone. I get so mad at all the money that word of mouth gets us to spend on all the vitamins though. I also have been reading on this website today: http://forums.wrongdiagnosis.com/showthrea...8341&page=4 It reminded me about the Reuteri.



Hi Honey, I know how terrible this is for you, I'm soooo sorry. I too miss having sex. The one thing well all need to keep ourselves sane, and its driving us all crazy. I have had BV off an on for 6 years. After years of research on my own, and only two doctors who listened, (one I had to fly to Houston to see) he was a specialists in the area of BV. He helped me alot, but by that time I was out of money. I spent around $10,000 trying to figure out what was going on. I also had blood sugar testing done at that time, my blood sugar levels were off, but I was able to control it with my diet. So for years I treated myself the way he treated me, with boric acid and vitamin e suppositories. I recently had an IUD put in and low an behold, I have a smell. Go figure! Well, after years of knowing something wasn't right, I keep reading this website. From all my research and doctor visits, I know consult with a holitsic doctor. I told her that my problem started when I was put on a mini-birthcontrol pill. Well, needless to say, I think that's the connection with all this. You may not think your hormones are out of wack, but it seems that its possible. I am almost totally convinced it has a direct effect on BV. I'm not a doctor, but with all the research I have done on this, I should have my PHD by now. The holistic doctor I consult with is putting me on a heart friendly diet and I'm going to try and balance my hormone to see if I get relief. I can say that it is evident that alot of women are getting help with estrogen creams. So if this is true, it would be logical that this is what is causing all our problems. Some of the supplements she is putting me on has helped some of the women on here, and she's just trying to balance my hormones, not treating me for bv. So maybe you should get your hormones tested. It surely wouldn't hurt. I hope you get well soon.

P.S. I have read that all the women who took Femanol had relief, its expensive, but it may be worth a try. rolleyes.gif
upset
QUOTE(sooo sad @ Jun 25 2008, 02:55 PM) *
upset.........
hon.....you should make an appointment with your gyn as soon as you can. to be on the safe side i wouldn't self diagnose anything cause bv, trich, and yeast have very similar symptoms. if it is bv,my advice is to get treated and while on treatment take a probiotic too...like femdophilus. you should read lori's blog. she has some great information, but first......go to the doctor sweetie.....hope this helps and hope you get better.

sooo sad



thanks for replying hun. i been lingering on for days to see if any changes happen before i called the gyn, and it seems they have. as i said in my 1st post, i have nvr ever had this problem. It seems to be subsiding. i dont have any odor or discharge. im gonna give it a few more days and if im back to "normal" then thats great:) but if anything seems wrong i will def call the doc.

so thanks sweetie!
mg86
hi everyone

well, to update on my situation, he ended up not coming here this weekend - but that is an entirely different story altogether. I was very dissappointed but in a way relieved, because it gives me time to get this BV under control before I get intimate with anyone again.

Today I was scheduled for a regular pap exam and let the doc know I still had the infection that he diagnosed me with originally, I told him it never has gone away. I hate those exams, they are so uncomfortable the poking and pinching and what not. Anyway, he said I still have BV and he prescribed me Clindenesse AND Flagyl (2x a day for 10 DAYS!!) I gave him this look of disgust and asked if I really had to take the Flagyl. He said that he thinks the reason my BV never went away is because I had been passing it back and forth between my (ex) sexual partner - who started this whole damn thing in the first place!!! I told him I have not been sexually active in over 6 months (it's actually been longer, though) - he said that the bacteria can hang on there that long. He said in 2 weeks to come back and he assures me it will be gone. He then said something in regards to the symptoms as a "gagging odor". I was like THANKS!!!!!!!!! well I didn't say that, but I didn't know it was that bad?? I guess it's a good thing I didn't get any action this past weekend! laugh.gif

Do you guys think I should run into any problems taking Clindenesse and Flagyl at the same time? Clindenesse is the cream and its only for one night. It's worked for me before but I am going to suck it up and take the Flagyl too. I hate the taste Flagyl leaves in my mouth...it makes me so nauseous I can't even eat anything. It would help if the pill was coated, or a gel cap, I had the powdery texture of it. I get chills just thinking about it.

I will also be taking FemD 2x a day during this treatment. this better knock it out for GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!! but no alcohol during this time - which sucks, and I don't want to risk it. Hopefully in 2 weeks time I will be CURED of this hell and so called "gagging odor". I am dying to have a normal relationship where I can have normal sex again.





Those of you who are taking FemD w/ flagyl, etc., how are you doing??? sooo sad I think you were one of those...how are you? Have you seen improvements?
CarrieBradshaw
QUOTE(mg86 @ Jul 1 2008, 10:52 AM) *
I will also be taking FemD 2x a day during this treatment. this better knock it out for GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!! but no alcohol during this time - which sucks, and I don't want to risk it. Hopefully in 2 weeks time I will be CURED of this hell and so called "gagging odor". I am dying to have a normal relationship where I can have normal sex again.
Those of you who are taking FemD w/ flagyl, etc., how are you doing??? sooo sad I think you were one of those...how are you? Have you seen improvements?


I've been on FemD for about 5 months with no infection. smile.gif Went to the beach for a week last week and took 2 a day because who knows what kind of bacteria is floating around in that water. My girl feels good after 5 months on that stuff! yay!

I've also stopped wearing thongs daily (a hard habit to break) and don't wear underwear whenever I can (which is actually kinda nice). smile.gif

It took me two courses of MetroGel along with the FemD to get rid of it in January, but I've been good ever since. smile.gif

Good luck!
mg86
QUOTE(CarrieBradshaw @ Jul 1 2008, 02:20 PM) *
I've been on FemD for about 5 months with no infection. smile.gif Went to the beach for a week last week and took 2 a day because who knows what kind of bacteria is floating around in that water. My girl feels good after 5 months on that stuff! yay!

I've also stopped wearing thongs daily (a hard habit to break) and don't wear underwear whenever I can (which is actually kinda nice). smile.gif

It took me two courses of MetroGel along with the FemD to get rid of it in January, but I've been good ever since. smile.gif

Good luck!


Hey Carrie

Thanks a lot for your reply. Seems like this thread is kinda dead lately. I am glad that you are doing well! smile.gif Hopefully this will do the trick for me.
nicolemr
Hello!

Joan I read your post and understand bc I have too been tested for AIDS/HIV(several times, even though it is not covered) thinking there has to be something wrong with my immune system. Not only have I had BV issues since I was 12 but also yeast, and the pamphlet that comes with the yeast meds scares you to death saying if you have recurring infections you might have HIV or AIDS. So you are definitely not alone in those feelings!

Lisabon-Would it be possible for you to post the dosage on the boric acid tablets?

I do not have insurance and have been denied health insurance bc of a "history of pelvic pain", guess what from BV. I really had a decent doctor and now I cannot go see him bc I can not afford it! The doctor I had previously was going to put me under and test me for cancer bc of my symptoms, but the decent doctor just tested me for BV. Unfortunately the meds he gave me, did not take care of it and now I dont have insurance and can't get it.
Also my symptoms would come and go, mostly itching and different discharge at different times of the month and sometimes a smell and sometimes not. Also My periods are very heavy and I bleed in between periods and have terrible cramps just at random times, not just during my period. The decent doctor said that BV can cause these symptoms also.

Any help would be appreciated! Thank you!


mg86
hey all

I just wanted to put this link out there:

http://www.vaginosis.com/#9

You've probably already been there but it is a GREAT resource of information...and I have just found it. Kind of freaked me out because it talked about why Clindesse should not be prescribed.

As previously discussed, clindamycin, again unlike metronidazole, has antibiotic activity not just against the anaerobic bacteria associated with bacterial vaginosis, but also against any subsisting healthy Lactobacillus species which, were it not for the clindamycin, could have been on its way to regaining its position of dominance within the vaginal flora.


It also has a pretty lengthy section on yogurt/probiotics.

Also regarding Clindesse - it has been awhile since I've been on it..all the cream is starting to come out and there is some itching. Is this normal?? I would die if it was really a yeast infection.

Have a good weekend everyone!
lori
QUOTE(nicolemr @ Jul 3 2008, 08:04 AM) *
I do not have insurance and have been denied health insurance bc of a "history of pelvic pain", guess what from BV.

Hi Nicole,

Wow, that really pisses me off. mad.gif

BV is such a common problem for women. And you're denied health insurance because of it? Oh geez, I'm just ... there are no words.

We need better health care in this country. This is ridiculous.

Anyway ...

- You should take Fem-dophilus. It's helped a lot of women in here, and it's safe to use. It won't necessarily cure you 100% but it can only help. Here's an excerpt from my blog:

QUOTE
Fem-Dophilus (Jarrow)
  • Cons: expensive
  • Conclusion: So far, the this is the most promising and effective product. All the members who have had the best, long-term results have used Fem-Dophilus as a part of their regimen. Highly recommended, based on the research and anecdotal evidence. Buy it refrigerated for maximum potency. (Unfortunately, posters have reported that the bottle arrives warm, even if they select expedited shipping from online merchants who offer cold-packs. So it looks like buying it directly from Whole Foods is the best option.)


- If you don't have insurance, you should go to Planned Parenthood or other clinics in your area. You won't necessarily get the best care (it's been a hit-or-miss experience for me), but you should still keep up with your routine exams.

- You should also consult a good independent insurance agent (not the ones directly associated with insurance companies), and get consultation on how to get coverage. A good insurance agent should be able to give you advice on what your options are, and how to write-up your application so you can explain your history of problems to the insurance companies. (If any of them advise you to be dishonest in your application, or try to scams on you, walk away.)

Good luck.
melis19750
Hi everyone! tongue.gif
Im Melissa...
32 years YOUNG
anyhow this is my FIRST experience with BV
I have had in the past Group B strep "heavy overgrowth" vaginitis...

how mine started... (which im not 100% yet convinced its BV till i see my reg/ OBGYN this Friday)

first let me state I have been abstinant since January 1st 2005!
(for religious reasons)

anyhow so I have not had a vaginal infection since 2005 (in 05 I had heavy over growth of GBS)
I had battled GBS over growth from 2002-2005


so in may 2008 i had a upper respiratory infection.... my gen doctor gave me an Rx for "zithromax zpack"

so I just took a pro biotic once daily in the evening to ward off a YI and hoped for the best...
zithromax worked great on my Upper Res. infection

so around the end of May i noticed a weird discharge and some itching/ burning
so i took 1 diflucan
it did not take care of it

went in for my annual with the nurse practitionair...
and got my pap, and cultures done

the Np told me she saw "clue cells" and a small trace of yeast
and gave me clindamycin 2% vaginal cream to take
so I took it
and than diflucan to take
took that too

the symptoms did not go away
in the mean time
my test results came in
HPV negative
papsmear NORMAL
No STD's
but my vaginal culture showed "heavy over growth of Group B strep"
she said my culture did not show I have BV, but that being she saw "clue cells" when she swabbed me and looked under the scope that I have BV and GBS and some yeast.
so they gave me another round of clynda vag cream 2% for 7 nights as well as ampicillin for the GBS
and diflucan to take once a week for 4 weeks...

so
most of my symptoms cleared
but I still have this white/yellowish discharge
no clumps
and only some random burning or pain... once in a while

so I started using "garlic cloves" at night
some of the symptoms are going away

I just noticed a weird smell... not super bad
but never noticed it before...


anyhow I have an appointment with my Gyno this coming friday
and not the NP
I am not sure If she missed diagnosed me with BV or not....
because it did not show on my culture
but outta curiousity
whats the best treatment for BV?
natural treatments?
and also
prescription?

I read clinda vaginal cream 2% can actually cause more harm than do good by killing off the good lactobacillis.


Im so frustrated..
I have not had a vag infection in 3 years
and now all the suddon I have this after taking zithromax

im telling you.... sex does not always cause this
especially since I have not had sex since jan 2005 with my ex fiance
and now abstinant

and FYI- Im healthy, in shape, a dance instructor
and I eat organic/ healthy
yeast free diet!!!!

HELP!!!
im depressed over this
it almost ruined my 4th of july!
melis19750
PSS
I am currently taking femdophillis
and using garlic suppositorys (1 clove at bed time 2 nights on and 1 night off)

before seeing my OBGYn
Garlic is supposed to decrease the overgrowth of Group B strep naturally
from heavy to low
and as well as kill off yeast over growth
Im also taking a natural candida product to kill off the over growth of yeast being I have been on a couple anti biotics (oral and vaginal) in the last 2 months

anyhow
anyone try the femanol
just curious if it worked for you or not
there are a few reviews on it... but im skeptical thinking it might be the people selling it writing the reviews... you never know being this is the internet and all!


PSS i dont use tampons
I change my undies daily
I wear cotton only
NO THONGS
and I also take 2-3 showers per day
being I teach dance
and when I get a break i take a shower
I use cetaphil unscented soap (it says its pH balanced)

okay see my story below
you can also e-mail me at; Lissadances4life@aim.com

neverending
Hey, Ladies! I am still having the same problems. I don't really know what's going on but i'm gaining weight rapidly. (20lbs) My feet and now my hands swell everyday now. How exciting right! Anyway, don't have insurance right now so i'm going to have to rough it right now.
sassy
Neverending: I hope things are okay!!

I just had to come in here and let you guys know that I think Enzara has been discontinued. I saw it being sold on Amazon.com so I got curious and googled it and noticed that several websites say it is discontinued and the link to their direct website is no longer active. I guess the better business bureau finally caught on to their scams! I still want my $70 or however much I paid back. mad.gif I was going to get a refund but their refund process was outrageous. You had to write a one page essay about why you were returning it, fill out pages and pages of forms, and I guess I was just lazy so I didn't do it. Oh well...
melis19750
Is enzara the same thing as femanol?

If so, dude Im stupid for buying it. I just ordered Femanol for $67.00 today. I'll give it a try and see what happens.

today I did a douche my NP doc reccomended... 3 TBS of Hydrogen Peroxide mixed with 1 tsp of boric acid. I feel better now...
my discharge was kinda white and stringy....
it looked weird... not like my normal clear discharge.

ugg right now being female truly sucks
i think men have it so much easier

lemontart68
Hi all,
Been lurking for a month or so and I had to register to post what happened to me.

Since Feb, I have been treated 3 times for BV, flagyl, cleocin...they worked only temporarily. I was at my wit's end like most of you here.
2 weeks ago I had the symptoms return and I decided to wait it out instead of running to the gyn for another med. I had to see my reg doctor for a normal checkup (I have lots of existing health conditions, main one is heart failure).
Well my reg doctor heard something in my lungs and he thought I was developing pneumonia so he gave me 7 days of Avelox. I also started taking Fem Dolphilus which I ordered online, packed in ice, twice a day.
My BV is gone! I am hoping it stays gone. I think I might have had a staph infection, vaginal staph? I am not sure. All I know is the Avelox and Fem Dolphilus worked for me. I pray the Fem Dolphilus keeps it away but if not, I will be asking my gyn for Avelox, not flagyl or cleocin.
melis19750
so... has anyone ever tried inserting femdophilus vaginally? If so what were your results?
The website states it might cure BV better than metro gel when inserting 2 femdophilus pills at bed time for 5 nights.

Im curious
but wonder if it will cause more harm than good or irritation

a few years back when I had GBS overgrowth
I used a probiotic in the vagina (Gyn-Na-Tryn) and it caused severe ITCHING and burning


also, repHresh does not work for me..
it also causes irritation

I first used it... was fine, but recently tried it and it made my vagina swell
it was HORRIBLE!!!

I wont ever use repHresh again

I just want to be "normal again"

all this female stuff is making me sad!
melis19750
so im trying one femdophilus pill vaginally tonight. I once had a BAD reaction to Gyn-na-tryn
vaginal pro biotic
but so far, so good...
lets see what happens

ill post results later

sassy
No, Enzara is different than Femanol. Enzara is not a probiotic...it's a useless pill made by a company out to scam women. They claimed to have a cure for BV...all you had to do was buy an $80 or so bottle of pills once a month. The same company makes numerous other products and have been cited in a negative light on by the better business bureau.
konphusion26
QUOTE(melis19750 @ Jul 8 2008, 01:30 AM) *
so im trying one femdophilus pill vaginally tonight. I once had a BAD reaction to Gyn-na-tryn
vaginal pro biotic
but so far, so good...
lets see what happens

ill post results later

I wouldn't do it vaginally if I were you. I tried that and it did nothing. The capsule didn't even dissolve in there completely. It was a clumpy mess. But good luck. THey work wonders orally. I usually take about 3 or 4 at a time. The two at a time did nothing for me.
melis19750
you know mine disolved....
how crazy is it we all experience something different
but I did break mine open before instering it.
so..... maybe thats the trick?

But I will say day #1- it did not irritate me at all
and day #2 -today,,,, it really irritated my vulvar area...
so Im not going to use it anymore vaginally
just oral use only
melis19750
oh i forgot to mention
im starting to get lower abdominal pain
I wonder if its from BV??

I see my OBGYN on friday
we will see what she says
im so worried!
neverending
QUOTE(melis19750 @ Jul 9 2008, 05:42 AM) *
oh i forgot to mention
im starting to get lower abdominal pain
I wonder if its from BV??

I see my OBGYN on friday
we will see what she says
im so worried!



I am having lower (left) abdominal pain also. This morning I went to the bathroom and there was a dime size glob of what looked like blood and green slimy dis. Not forest green but a sort of light green, it's more now since I tried to wear the nuvaring again. Had to take it out again. I think this is some type of infection but I'm not quite sure what it is. I don't have insurance right now and the health department takes months to get in. Why do we not have universal health care in this country? Sheesh! The smell is not unbearable right now. I do the perfume to crotch method right now. I'm hoping this is just an infection from the nuvaring. Maybe?!
melis19750
QUOTE(neverending @ Jul 9 2008, 12:15 PM) *
I am having lower (left) abdominal pain also. This morning I went to the bathroom and there was a dime size glob of what looked like blood and green slimy dis. Not forest green but a sort of light green, it's more now since I tried to wear the nuvaring again. Had to take it out again. I think this is some type of infection but I'm not quite sure what it is. I don't have insurance right now and the health department takes months to get in. Why do we not have universal health care in this country? Sheesh! The smell is not unbearable right now. I do the perfume to crotch method right now. I'm hoping this is just an infection from the nuvaring. Maybe?!


Oh Lord, thats aweful! I'm so sorry to hear that. My prayers are with you!
I think green discharge is a sign of an infection. They usually say green means trich... which is a very common STD. but, it could be something else. See a physician asap!
Im with you on universal health care. this stuff sometimes makes me want to move to canada and become a canadian cit just to have their health care.

I do have insurance but its sooo expensive


well today, I will repot Im a lot better
Im taking femdophilus every day. i upped my dosage to 2 pills 3 times a day, im also eating much healtheir
and avoiding sugar...
as well as doing a "candida cleanse" from being on anti biotics the last 2 months...

but today my discharge is odor free and clear... although I have a lot of it...
we will see what happens on friday when i see my obgyn
hopefully its good news

i want to be back to my healthy self
Girl, frustrated
"our bodies, our hells" accurate title. i am dealing with a non-stop bacterial vaginosis infection. 4th week of antibiotic (metrozole, clindycin, tindamax)--yes, the spelling is wrong, i am certain. nothing works! i am 31 and i have only had one other bv infection to my knowledge. i haven't been having sex with multi partners or anything. i bought some acidophilus to take orally. i don't know. it is very FRUSTRATING!!! mad.gif
Girl, frustrated
QUOTE(Girl, frustrated @ Jul 10 2008, 11:34 AM) *
"our bodies, our hells" accurate title. i am dealing with a non-stop bacterial vaginosis infection. 4th week of antibiotic (metrozole, clindycin, tindamax)--yes, the spelling is wrong, i am certain. nothing works! i am 31 and i have only had one other bv infection to my knowledge. i haven't been having sex with multi partners or anything. i bought some acidophilus to take orally. i don't know. it is very FRUSTRATING!!! mad.gif


sorry if i posted in the wrong area...i am trying to figure out how this board works...
mg86
QUOTE(Girl, frustrated @ Jul 10 2008, 12:37 PM) *
sorry if i posted in the wrong area...i am trying to figure out how this board works...



girl, frustrated -
welcome! yes you're in the right place. it took me forever to quote an entry for some reason so looks like you are on the right track smile.gif this is definitely the right thread and I can assure you I share your frustration. The one thing I have learned here that has helped me immensely is the use of probiotics. One that a lot of ladies use here (including myself) is Jarrow Fem Dopholus (unsure of spelling). I buy it from iherb.com. It is expensive, but worth it in my opinion. Some people have seen results with FemD alone, but for me taking it while also on Flagyl, Clindesse, etc. seems to work. Good luck!


neverending

hope all is ok with you! I agree with melis that it sounds like trich. I am so sorry you are having to deal with all of that. I hope you are able to go to the doctor very soon...keep us posted!

As for me, I had my follow up appointment with my obgyn this morning. I had to wait forever!! Ugh..anyway, I used Clindesse last Tuesday and evidently it is still in there which explains the weird discharge and slight itching. Today is my last day of taking Flagyl THANK GOD. The last few days I have not been taking FemD as religiously the past few days because my iherb shipment was late and I had a last minute move (long story).

Also it seems like no matter what, my FemD from iherb is always cold when it arrives. I thought overnight shipping would do the trick and it is still warm. I put it in the fridge as soon as I can, but I am still worried about it's potency. Not to mention I paid for overnight shipping on SUNDAY and my order was not shipped until TUESDAY...I have been meaning to call to see if I can get some kind of adjustment but I've been so busy.

Anyway there hasn't been any odor and I think things are on their way to normal. I'll check back in in about a week and let you all know how things are going.

Hope all's well!
melis19750
Gawsh,
this BV stuff is horrid
I hope your all doing better. They, (some doctors) make it seem so scary and freak everyone out thinking that your immuno compromised.
My case... I have not had sex in FOUR YEARS....
so Im certain the Zithromax Z-pack i was on for bronchitis the middle of May is what threw my body off.
Now Im worried I might have a mild case od PID being my pelvis feels sooo weird. Thank god im seeing my OBGYn tomorrow.
yesterday I was doing better, but today noticed yellow discharge again and some pelvic discomfort (more sore than painful)

I also have not douched in 4 years until this past week to get the femdophilus out of my vagina. I tried it vaginally, but it caused inflamation. I guess im sensitive down there!
I think, maybe if WE ALL work together we can figure out what works and what does not.
Im convinced while Garlic cloves may be helpful for Yeast and Group b Strep (because it did make my GBS growth go down in the past)
that it does not work for BV.

Im praying I get back to normal. This is truly effecting my "emotional state"
I feel so down. I try to stay pro active and happy... but you know when your vagina is just not normal... its hard to think about anything else.
is anyone with me on that??

I dont have a odor... but man this seriously sucks
okay... im going to try and remain more on the positive side!


QUOTE(mg86 @ Jul 10 2008, 01:20 PM) *
girl, frustrated -
welcome! yes you're in the right place. it took me forever to quote an entry for some reason so looks like you are on the right track smile.gif this is definitely the right thread and I can assure you I share your frustration. The one thing I have learned here that has helped me immensely is the use of probiotics. One that a lot of ladies use here (including myself) is Jarrow Fem Dopholus (unsure of spelling). I buy it from iherb.com. It is expensive, but worth it in my opinion. Some people have seen results with FemD alone, but for me taking it while also on Flagyl, Clindesse, etc. seems to work. Good luck!


neverending

hope all is ok with you! I agree with melis that it sounds like trich. I am so sorry you are having to deal with all of that. I hope you are able to go to the doctor very soon...keep us posted!

As for me, I had my follow up appointment with my obgyn this morning. I had to wait forever!! Ugh..anyway, I used Clindesse last Tuesday and evidently it is still in there which explains the weird discharge and slight itching. Today is my last day of taking Flagyl THANK GOD. The last few days I have not been taking FemD as religiously the past few days because my iherb shipment was late and I had a last minute move (long story).

Also it seems like no matter what, my FemD from iherb is always cold when it arrives. I thought overnight shipping would do the trick and it is still warm. I put it in the fridge as soon as I can, but I am still worried about it's potency. Not to mention I paid for overnight shipping on SUNDAY and my order was not shipped until TUESDAY...I have been meaning to call to see if I can get some kind of adjustment but I've been so busy.

Anyway there hasn't been any odor and I think things are on their way to normal. I'll check back in in about a week and let you all know how things are going.

Hope all's well!

sooo sad
melis19750

hey hon.........
i feel ya on that one. this bv stuff makes me feel sooo sad too( can you tell, that's my name "sooo sad!") right now i'm on metrogel(generic metroinozole?) vaginal for 10 days and gonna take femd and floramore on the 7th or 8th day of metrogel, right now i'm on my 5th day. hopefully this will do the trick. i've done oral flagyl + femd and it didn't work for me blink.gif hopefully all of us can bet this darn thing!!

good luck to all of us!!!

sooo sad
Girl, frustrated
thank you everyone for your support. well, now it is pretty obvious i have a yeast infection from the tindamax/metrozole combo.

btw...I have heard that Femdophilis is a great product. i guess i need to order it online as i don't think the pharmacy has it.
sooo sad
QUOTE(Girl, frustrated @ Jul 10 2008, 04:16 PM) *
thank you everyone for your support. well, now it is pretty obvious i have a yeast infection from the tindamax/metrozole combo.

btw...I have heard that Femdophilis is a great product. i guess i need to order it online as i don't think the pharmacy has it.


call around to all your local pharmacies. i got mine from a pharmacy but it isn't a big one like cvs or walgreens. it's a small one and private owned one. at least you wouldn't have to pay for shipping. just a suggestion!

sooo sad
melis19750
hi gals
thanks for your support!!

anyhow i buy my femdophilus at "henrey's Market place"
which is a "wild oats store" like "whole foods"

many health food stores sell it

I got mine for $17.00 at henreys in the section where they keep all the other cold pro-piotics

I used to use K-pack
but..... i am trying femd

QUOTE(Girl, frustrated @ Jul 10 2008, 03:16 PM) *
thank you everyone for your support. well, now it is pretty obvious i have a yeast infection from the tindamax/metrozole combo.

btw...I have heard that Femdophilis is a great product. i guess i need to order it online as i don't think the pharmacy has it.

mg86
I just remembered on jarrow's website they have a store locator as to where you can buy their products. I am thinking I will start doing that because I am tired of paying almost $30 to iherb for it to arrive warm.


hang in there everyone!!
MedicallyPissed08
Hey all,

I'm new to bust.com, started reading this board yesterday (which is, by the way, a godsend) while googling "fishy smell" haha...

First a big THANK YOU to everyone who takes the time to post, everyone's busy these days and it's just good to see people helping people.

My sitch: I've never had an std, or even a yeast infection for that matter (weird, huh?). I'm 22, sexually active (faithfully though) and for the first time ever I think there's something wrong. unsure.gif I read through this board a lot yesterday and see there are about a million things you can try to treat this. Just thought I would apprise you guys of what I'm going to try (starting today) and then let you know what did/didn't work for me.

My scrip: I'm running to Henry's today to pick up that Femdophilus stuff (orally, thanks to all your suggestions). I ordered Femanol this afternoon (and cannot find ANYONE who's tried it, not even a "real" review) and am praying it does what they say it does.

Do you think the Fem-d will work by itself?

I hate taking antibiotics (I had MRSA four years ago -- it's a staph [skin] infection [looked like a little bug-bite on my knee] that's more resistant to antiobiotics, therefore all antibiotics I ever take now have to be in a different [more potent?] "class" or whatever),

and I don't have health insurance. I am going to Planned Parenthood tomorrow to make sure it IS b.v., but I don't think there's any mistaking this smell... it's absolutely mortifying. Will post how it goes.
melis19750
QUOTE(MedicallyPissed08 @ Jul 10 2008, 05:27 PM) *
Hey all,

I'm new to bust.com, started reading this board yesterday (which is, by the way, a godsend) while googling "fishy smell" haha...

First a big THANK YOU to everyone who takes the time to post, everyone's busy these days and it's just good to see people helping people.

My sitch: I've never had an std, or even a yeast infection for that matter (weird, huh?). I'm 22, sexually active (faithfully though) and for the first time ever I think there's something wrong. unsure.gif I read through this board a lot yesterday and see there are about a million things you can try to treat this. Just thought I would apprise you guys of what I'm going to try (starting today) and then let you know what did/didn't work for me.

My scrip: I'm running to Henry's today to pick up that Femdophilus stuff (orally, thanks to all your suggestions). I ordered Femanol this afternoon (and cannot find ANYONE who's tried it, not even a "real" review) and am praying it does what they say it does.

Do you think the Fem-d will work by itself?

I hate taking antibiotics (I had MRSA four years ago -- it's a staph [skin] infection [looked like a little bug-bite on my knee] that's more resistant to antiobiotics, therefore all antibiotics I ever take now have to be in a different [more potent?] "class" or whatever),

and I don't have health insurance. I am going to Planned Parenthood tomorrow to make sure it IS b.v., but I don't think there's any mistaking this smell... it's absolutely mortifying. Will post how it goes.

I just got femanol last night.. i ordered it a few days ago. So, Im on my second pill! we will see what happens...
Ill post back and keep you updated.
melis19750
QUOTE(tabby @ Apr 9 2008, 09:32 AM) *
Hello Ladies,

I return here after a lengthy absence with a heavy heart.

Last year I began a battle with chronic BV. Pelvic achiness, wretched smell, itching (mild), but the worst of all....the continual BURNING. Burning when I sit, walk, pee...and I literally lost my mind. The doctors I saw, gave up on me and suggested I start taking an antidepressant instead of worrying about my vagina.

I was on every pill and remedy listed throughout many posts on the thread. I don't know what happened. After three straight months of burning, I had a nervous breakdown one night, cried, threw things, and woke up the next day and it was gone. I have NO idea what made it go but it was just gone....until it came back in February this year. Same symptoms, same burning.

Took a worthless trip to the doctor to get flagyl. I knew that the infection was so far gone, I needed something because I felt some chills.

Well, this time the flagyl did nada, but take the chills away. In fact, the burning increased while on the medicine! And so did the yellowish to clear discharge. After being on 1000 mg a day of this, and feeling sick - you know that feeling flagyl gives you....I decided to try Pau d' arco tea, goldenseal, and oil of oregano. Still, no improvement.

I have two questions, if you all do not mind?

Does anyone else here have that horrible burning?

Does this candigen /genestra stuff work for anyone?

I am really short on cash, and I just can't plop down more money on something that's not going to work.

I'm seeing something new about Reuteri. I called every single HFS in town and no one seems to know what it is!

- sign me, desperate as hell, pissed off, and tired of not being able to be intimate with my husband

***thank you in advance***

did they do a culture on you? It could even be a heavy over growth of group b strep.... the BV meds can cause this. i have had GBS overgrowth several times....
Girl, frustrated
hey girls...well, i just got treated for the yeast infection (one day pill...diflucan? sp?). anyway, i think my bv is getting better. but until when? until after my period next week when it comes back with a vengence? i am trying a new herbal lineup of drugs. my sister who has had problems with bv/yeast/chronic fatique and pain has completely revolutionized her life by adding certain vitamin/herbal supplements. i don't know...there must be an answer somewhere. doctors perform brain surgery, successfully treat cancer, do heart transplants...you mean to tell me...they can't fix my vagina???? sad.gif
melis19750
QUOTE(Girl, frustrated @ Jul 11 2008, 08:46 AM) *
hey girls...well, i just got treated for the yeast infection (one day pill...diflucan? sp?). anyway, i think my bv is getting better. but until when? until after my period next week when it comes back with a vengence? i am trying a new herbal lineup of drugs. my sister who has had problems with bv/yeast/chronic fatique and pain has completely revolutionized her life by adding certain vitamin/herbal supplements. i don't know...there must be an answer somewhere. doctors perform brain surgery, successfully treat cancer, do heart transplants...you mean to tell me...they can't fix my vagina???? sad.gif

hi Girl frustrated...
can you give us a list of the herbals/suppliments/etc that your sister uses?
Maybe we can try them or evaluate their success???
Girl, frustrated
QUOTE(melis19750 @ Jul 11 2008, 10:32 AM) *
hi Girl frustrated...
can you give us a list of the herbals/suppliments/etc that your sister uses?
Maybe we can try them or evaluate their success???



Vitamin D3 (1600 mg)
Magnesium Citrate
FloraGen3
Activia yogurt

here are the core items she swears by....
konphusion26
QUOTE(Girl, frustrated @ Jul 11 2008, 12:17 PM) *
Vitamin D3 (1600 mg)
Magnesium Citrate
FloraGen3
Activia yogurt

here are the core items she swears by....

wait wait wait.... magnesium citrate????!! That's a laxative right? little glass bottle? Wooo I've got stories about that stuff. Geez. How has that helped her with BV/yeast, etc.?
melis19750
QUOTE(Girl, frustrated @ Jul 11 2008, 11:17 AM) *
Vitamin D3 (1600 mg)
Magnesium Citrate
FloraGen3
Activia yogurt

here are the core items she swears by....


activa yogurt has A LOT of sugar.
so Id prefer a non fat or low fat yogurt with active cultures that does not have so much sugar in it.

Vitamin D3 is also produced from the sun... if you get about 30 min of sun every day... you will get that naturally

flora gen 3 is a pro biotic

and Magnesium Citrate is basically Magnesium- people with kidney conditions should not take it without the advise of a doctor..

many people use MC if they have vulvodynia from what my doctor told me...
not sure why
but ill research
melis19750
Doctors appointment went GREAT!!

Okay everyone so I have some good news.

I went to my OBGYN today... not the NP-
Id rather see my MD anyway... my NP always "over treats" me with anti-biotics

anyhow
so she did a vaginal whiff test (KOH)
and negative- no yucky smell
she also did a pH test... pH is NORMAL
and she swabbed me and looked under the micro scope
everything looks GREAT and clear
and well.. Im ovulating she said
which explains the extra discharge
she also said my discharge is probably YELLOW due to my multi vitamins

anyhow she did a few cultures
one for anaerobic and aerobic bacteria
one just for BV (its a newer culture that only tests for BV)
One for YEAST
and ONE specifically for group B strep
just to be 100% sure

I love her!!!

but we both think that Im good

she thinks point blank the femdophilus is what helped

Im also taking Femanol (for the past 4 days)
and femdophilus going on 2 weeks now

as well as a good multi vitamin called "immuplex" by "standard process"
and Catalyn by "standard process"

they are "whole foods vitamins" but not for vegans as they are made from animals and plants


I also have been drinking 100% pure cranberry juice
and eating NON FAT plain yogurt -which only has 9 grams of sugar (way less than activia)
I add stevia, cinnamon, and some flax seeds to my yogurt to make it taste better


so if I can suggest anything
TAKE FEMDOPHILUS
I believe its what got me back on track

lori
QUOTE(melis19750 @ Jul 11 2008, 05:29 PM) *
so if I can suggest anything
TAKE FEMDOPHILUS
I believe its what got me back on track

Sing it, sister!
lori
QUOTE(melis19750 @ Jul 7 2008, 10:30 PM) *
so im trying one femdophilus pill vaginally tonight. I once had a BAD reaction to Gyn-na-tryn
vaginal pro biotic

I've tried Gy-natren. Awful, awful stuff. In fact, the whole reason I joined this group in the first place is to warn people away from it, and also spread the good Fem-dophilus word.

From my blog:
QUOTE
Gy-Natren (Natren)
  • Description: 14 oral & 14 vaginal capsules
  • Where to Buy / Cost: $25 at Whole Foods (refrigerated)
  • Pros: designed specifically for healthy vaginal flora
  • Cons: one member's results were severe discomfort and irritation; recently cited by FDA - not yet proven safe for vaginal use
  • Conclusion: Not recommended
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