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yme30
QUOTE(Queen @ Dec 10 2008, 07:23 PM) *
hey im a newbie here............... newho im 21 years old and i have been living with bv for the longest time... im soo embarrassed to even go socialize in fear of someone smelling me..... i recently quit my job because i felt everyong was looking at me and hearing lil whispers here and there while i enter a room... i just feel soo alone ... i barely go out.. i stop going to school... this disease as taken over my life i just dont know what to do with myself...and is it common with people with bv to be dealing with halitosis (bad breath) ............sad to say i stopped communicating to the people i love in fear of them putting their hands on their nose...........ahhhhhhh soo much goes through my day please help me find a cure for this disease..



Welcome and I do understand how you feel. Whats worse for me is the smell which I simply cant take because its so embarrassing. This infection takes away your entire social life well at least it has for me.

I went back to a new doctor AGAIN and she gave me the metro pills and its day 4 and all I can do is pray for the best.

I must say though keep trying and trying and trying to get the right doctor to get rid of this BV. I had enough of spending my money on probiotics that dont work, vitamins, oils, and all these other things on the market that claim to be "clinically proven". It upsets me because I could have use that money on gas, groceries, or for savings.
I read that it works for some people but not for me so why invest anymore of my hard earned money in products that just irritates my bv even more. I have had BV for several years and I am determine to get my life back when I was fresh, dry, no heavy discharge and the god awful smell. Just believe that it will be gone and I wish you the best and everyone else.
catwalk
QUOTE(konphusion26 @ Dec 10 2008, 11:36 PM) *
Ladies, Iherb has the Fem D (60 capsules) for $23.77 and the 30 capsules for 17.47 -
Linky: Fem Dophilus - iHerb.com

THANKS! And even better, when you check out, put in the code LAZ615 for a referral coupon and you get another $5 off! biggrin.gif

WOW!!!! For $21 including shipping I got the 60 caps bottle! Holy crap!!! ohmy.gif
Sweaty in Social Studies
QUOTE(Queen @ Dec 10 2008, 06:23 PM) *
hey im a newbie here............... newho im 21 years old and i have been living with bv for the longest time... im soo embarassed to even go socialize in fear of someone smelling me..... i recently quit my job because i felt everyong was looking at me and hearing lil whispers here and there while i enter a room... i just feel soo alone ... i barely go out.. i stop going to school... this disease as taken over my life i just dont know what to do with myself...and is it common with people with bv to be dealing with halitosis (bad breath) ............sad to say i stopped communicating to the people i love in fear of them putting their hands on their nose...........ahhhhhhh soo much goes through my day please help me find a cure for this disease..



What have you tried treating your B.V. with? Don't give in so soon, you may just find something that works for you. I can't help but think that way. I'm an optimist.
lori
QUOTE(catwalk @ Dec 11 2008, 08:53 AM) *
THANKS! And even better, when you check out, put in the code LAZ615 for a referral coupon and you get another $5 off! biggrin.gif

WOW!!!! For $21 including shipping I got the 60 caps bottle! Holy crap!!! ohmy.gif

Thank you for sharing this! (So glad they come in 60-caps now. Cool.)
neptune
QUOTE(LovelyLadyLuck @ Dec 11 2008, 03:36 AM) *
thats interesting that your tests have been coming back negative lately, perhaps its trich?? have you been tested for absolutely everything else??? i remember you saying something about it starting after you took antidepressents... my first case of Bv started when i started prozac and birth control!!!! like freshnfree im also allergic to latex, and believe this aggravated my situation, but my first case DEFINITELY came directly after starting the meds i mentioned. i decided to postpone my gyno appt because i got my period early, but when i go i am going to ask to be tested for stds A-Z as well as strepB, BV, AND i want to be referred to an endocrinologist for hormone testing. my mother has always said that she believes my hormones are totally out of whack(i have some of the illest modd swings known to man), and given the fact that my depression, stress, and birth control meds brought on my first case i am going to test that little theory.

i havent tried any other probiotics, but femd is wonderful and if i know there are some UK ladies who post here that have gotten a hold of some.

good luck girls


I was tested for trich and it came back negative. My theory is that it's "lurking" bv, and not quite bad enough to show up on tests. Not sure if that's possible though. When I have it badly the smell is definite fish, but I've tested positive when it's just been the onion smell before. Mystery. I think I might pay privately to see a gyne as the nhs over here can be pretty crap.

Did you start birth control and prozac at exactly the same time? I suppose it could have been triggered by either? I had unprotected sex and that's when I first got it, but I'd been on the antids for a few months, and it didn't clear up (without treatment) until I came off the meds about 9 months later. So the meds were definitely aggravating the problem at the very least. I asked my mum's friends who used to be a doctor and she said that bv can often be triggered/caused by medication. I know that in some cases people suspect it's an allergy so maybe that's why. Are you still taking the prozac and birth control?

Seeing an endo would be a good plan. If it's hormonal it might respond to some sort of hormone treatment. I personally have PCOS and take dianette and have recently started spironolactone (anti androgen). These meds are helping my pcos symptoms, but haven't made a change to my "bv" or whatever the hell it is! Over on Soulcysters someone did say recently that their bv cleared up when they started taking metformin (a treatment used in PCOS which balances insulin) and their doctor said that having insulin levels out of the normal range could possibly prevent the body from fighting infections properly.
lori
Hey everyone,

If you've checked out my blog lately, you might have noticed that I moved it to a different URL:

http://allaboutbv.blogspot.com/

The blog on the Bust site has been outdated, and I've been meaning to update it forever. But it felt daunting, and I've put it off for a long time.

The new format is easier for me to address individual topics more in-depth. It's still in the beginning stages. And I'm new to blogging, so I'm learning as I go!

These are my posts so far. Not comprehensive, yet. But check them out if you need any info. on these topics. I'll update you guys on my progress.

Thanks ...

--

Introduction

What Is BV?

Doctors Don't Know Everything (And Sometimes, They're Jerks)

Doctor Can Be Jerks - You're Still Going to Need One

Your Gynecologist Appointment

Prescription Medication #1: Metronidazole

Prescription Medication #2: Clindamycin

BV: The Vicious Cycle
ladylustlove
Hey ladies-
I've been lurking on this thread for a while, as so
many of us do.
I got tested for bv last week and for the first time in nearly a year
and a half it came up negative.
I am a very very happy woman right now, and
I wish to share my experience with you.

THe first time I encountered bv was in the spring of 2007
after I took a month long vacation to the tropics.
I couldn't tell anything was wrong, but my bf
stated something just smelled awry.
So i got tested, and as you might've guessed, there was the bv.

There were 3 factors that may have contributed to this occurence:
1. I had a non-hormonal iud inserted 2 months prior.
2. I had just started having unprotected sex with my bf.
3. Had just finished up probably my 5th treatment of
antibiotics for UTIs due to sex. Thankfully, I have discovered D-mannose
since then and take it b4 and after I have sex now. Knock on wood,
I have not had a UTI since i started taking mannose as a preventative.


So i got a round of antibiotics thinking little of it.
the bv went away.
took some probiotics too, some weak brand.
I was BV free for about 4 months.
I then read some
mumbo in a mag about how probiotics on a reg basis may not
be great for you (screw you whoever wrote that!!!)
and stopped taking them.
about a couple of weeks later, the smell was back.
I was a little freaked out but kinda like whatever. So i took
more antibiotics. Which worked for the week, but
the smell came back quickly after.

Then I was stumped. So like many of us, i researched on line a
bunch. Tried ACV. Tried inserting pros in the vag.
tried tea tree oil.

Went back to the doc, still had it. so i thought i'd give it one
final try with the antibiotics. i took a double whammy, using the
cream and the pills.
Then i got a yeast infection. i used boric acid for that and the yeast was
gone, but the smell lingered (according to the bf).

I was sick of going to the doc, and sick of taking antibiotics.
I felt like at this rate i'd be going every month. and going to
the doc isn't especially my fave activity. so
i decided to just take it easy.Focus on me. On new years i did a week long
raw food cleanse. Shortly after, I saw (don't laugh)
an energy healer, which was an amazing experience. he
had me go on a cleanse and insert vaginal vitamin c

After this, My bf ate me out a couple of times, during which he said it
tasted sweet. So I was like good!! then a couple of other times
he said it didn't taste/smell as great. So I was like damn.

But like i said, i chilled out. Tried not to stress. Bc this bv thing
brought me some serious fucking tears.

After 6 months or so of not seeing doctors, and kinda on a whim,
I went back last week to get tested. I was curious about my status.
and my tests came out negative.

I'm not sure what exactly did it, but like
the cause of my bv, maybe the elimination of it
has to do with multiple factors.

This is what I have done in my life to try to
get my body back to normal:

**alkalizing my body. I dunno if this is just some new fad, but
whatever. I eat as many fruits n veggies as possible.
I still drink alcohol and coffee, but drink enormous
quantities of lemon water to make up for it. I still have a minimal
amount of processed sugar (i work in a cafe for christ's sake!)
but i try to keep my diet at a 80%healthy/20%not so great ratio.

**taking probiotics. I take daily, one femdophilus and one ultimate
Vaginal flora, in the morning after breakfast. I've read the bacteria
thrive better if you take them with some food. this has been one
hell of an expensive habit (~$50 a month) but fuck it.

**taking vitamins. I take one woman's health daily (trader joe brand).
these multis have some extra womanly herbs in them.
One calcium/magnesium/green food tablet (also trader joe).
One omega 3/6/9. one vitamin c, and one folic acid.

**yoga. Nothing intense, just a few minutes in the morning.

**positive thinking and affirmations. Not just
about the bv, but life in general. Some people think this
is mega cheesy, but it has really helped me.
"I release any disease or negativity from my body
and welcome health and positivity"

Also, as you might have thought strange, I cannot tell when
i have the bv. Just can't. My bf can via the smell, but
i think he has a strong nose. I notice nothing particularly
strange about the discharge. I dunno. Also,
like i said, there has been times that he has said i didn't smell
that great but now...i am wondering if these are just
at particular points of my cycle. We smell sweeter when
we ovulate and when we are horny, so
maybe this explains why I smelled so sweet to him
in the beginning (i was a lot hornier in the beginning
of the relationship. New things are always exciting).

I was talking to my doc about this, and she
said sometimes the bv just goes away. I think, in my particular
case, taking all of those antibiotics for the UTIs really fucked me
up. It took over a year for my flora to get back into balance.
also, the iud prob didn't help (forgot to mention
i had that removed). now on the pill which i'm
not too thrilled about.
I think my bod was just
outta wack and needed some time to readjust.
Also, I believe the energy healing/positive thinking/non-stressing
may have had a part in
all of this. never hurts to try.

I will think twice b4 ever taking antibiotics again.
It is a shame that docs were giving them
to me like nothing instead of informing me about
wonderful things like d-mannose. Then again, they
prob didn't even know.

Sorry about the long post guys. just wanted to
share my story. Feel free to ask me any questions.
good luck!
lori
QUOTE(ladylustlove @ Dec 15 2008, 12:34 PM) *
Sorry about the long post guys. just wanted to
share my story. Feel free to ask me any questions.
good luck!

No, thanks for sharing. That was great.
neverending
QUOTE(ladylustlove @ Dec 15 2008, 09:34 PM) *
Hey ladies-
I've been lurking on this thread for a while, as so
many of us do.
I got tested for bv last week and for the first time in nearly a year
and a half it came up negative.
I am a very very happy woman right now, and
I wish to share my experience with you.

THe first time I encountered bv was in the spring of 2007
after I took a month long vacation to the tropics.
I couldn't tell anything was wrong, but my bf
stated something just smelled awry.
So i got tested, and as you might've guessed, there was the bv.

There were 3 factors that may have contributed to this occurence:
1. I had a non-hormonal iud inserted 2 months prior.
2. I had just started having unprotected sex with my bf.
3. Had just finished up probably my 5th treatment of
antibiotics for UTIs due to sex. Thankfully, I have discovered D-mannose
since then and take it b4 and after I have sex now. Knock on wood,
I have not had a UTI since i started taking mannose as a preventative.
So i got a round of antibiotics thinking little of it.
the bv went away.
took some probiotics too, some weak brand.
I was BV free for about 4 months.
I then read some
mumbo in a mag about how probiotics on a reg basis may not
be great for you (screw you whoever wrote that!!!)
and stopped taking them.
about a couple of weeks later, the smell was back.
I was a little freaked out but kinda like whatever. So i took
more antibiotics. Which worked for the week, but
the smell came back quickly after.

Then I was stumped. So like many of us, i researched on line a
bunch. Tried ACV. Tried inserting pros in the vag.
tried tea tree oil.

Went back to the doc, still had it. so i thought i'd give it one
final try with the antibiotics. i took a double whammy, using the
cream and the pills.
Then i got a yeast infection. i used boric acid for that and the yeast was
gone, but the smell lingered (according to the bf).

I was sick of going to the doc, and sick of taking antibiotics.
I felt like at this rate i'd be going every month. and going to
the doc isn't especially my fave activity. so
i decided to just take it easy.Focus on me. On new years i did a week long
raw food cleanse. Shortly after, I saw (don't laugh)
an energy healer, which was an amazing experience. he
had me go on a cleanse and insert vaginal vitamin c

After this, My bf ate me out a couple of times, during which he said it
tasted sweet. So I was like good!! then a couple of other times
he said it didn't taste/smell as great. So I was like damn.

But like i said, i chilled out. Tried not to stress. Bc this bv thing
brought me some serious fucking tears.

After 6 months or so of not seeing doctors, and kinda on a whim,
I went back last week to get tested. I was curious about my status.
and my tests came out negative.

I'm not sure what exactly did it, but like
the cause of my bv, maybe the elimination of it
has to do with multiple factors.

This is what I have done in my life to try to
get my body back to normal:

**alkalizing my body. I dunno if this is just some new fad, but
whatever. I eat as many fruits n veggies as possible.
I still drink alcohol and coffee, but drink enormous
quantities of lemon water to make up for it. I still have a minimal
amount of processed sugar (i work in a cafe for christ's sake!)
but i try to keep my diet at a 80%healthy/20%not so great ratio.

**taking probiotics. I take daily, one femdophilus and one ultimate
Vaginal flora, in the morning after breakfast. I've read the bacteria
thrive better if you take them with some food. this has been one
hell of an expensive habit (~$50 a month) but fuck it.

**taking vitamins. I take one woman's health daily (trader joe brand).
these multis have some extra womanly herbs in them.
One calcium/magnesium/green food tablet (also trader joe).
One omega 3/6/9. one vitamin c, and one folic acid.

**yoga. Nothing intense, just a few minutes in the morning.

**positive thinking and affirmations. Not just
about the bv, but life in general. Some people think this
is mega cheesy, but it has really helped me.
"I release any disease or negativity from my body
and welcome health and positivity"

Also, as you might have thought strange, I cannot tell when
i have the bv. Just can't. My bf can via the smell, but
i think he has a strong nose. I notice nothing particularly
strange about the discharge. I dunno. Also,
like i said, there has been times that he has said i didn't smell
that great but now...i am wondering if these are just
at particular points of my cycle. We smell sweeter when
we ovulate and when we are horny, so
maybe this explains why I smelled so sweet to him
in the beginning (i was a lot hornier in the beginning
of the relationship. New things are always exciting).

I was talking to my doc about this, and she
said sometimes the bv just goes away. I think, in my particular
case, taking all of those antibiotics for the UTIs really fucked me
up. It took over a year for my flora to get back into balance.
also, the iud prob didn't help (forgot to mention
i had that removed). now on the pill which i'm
not too thrilled about.
I think my bod was just
outta wack and needed some time to readjust.
Also, I believe the energy healing/positive thinking/non-stressing
may have had a part in
all of this. never hurts to try.

I will think twice b4 ever taking antibiotics again.
It is a shame that docs were giving them
to me like nothing instead of informing me about
wonderful things like d-mannose. Then again, they
prob didn't even know.

Sorry about the long post guys. just wanted to
share my story. Feel free to ask me any questions.
good luck!



Yes, positive thinking helps a lot! Get rid of any negativity in your life. You don't need that. As far as the IUD I hear it causes BV in a lot of women. Look at other boards as wel as this one and you will see that a lot of women who got IUDS also got BV. Very odd but it was something that I noticed! Anyway, welcome to the board. The info you have contributed is great!
sooo sad
sassy, hon!

i was wondering, how long have you used boric acid in all? i've talked to my doctor about it and she doesn't have any clue about side effects, etc. i don't have insurance so i can't really find another dr cause of financial situation. i read in a post that you only use it about once a month now. how much did you use it in the begining? like everyday or 3-5 times a week? it seems like this is the only thing that helps me too. i used it for about 1.5-2 months straight, then i used femd vaginally for about 2-3weeks and then i didn't use anything for 2 days to see if it has gone away and i could feel it coming back. i feel so helpless and less of a women right now and i just shoved a boric acid up there cause i could feel it coming. sometimes i feel like commiting suicide because of this shit. i'm sooo sad and depressed right now. please help with any information, thanks in advance. sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif

sooo sad
Sweaty in Social Studies
QUOTE(ladylustlove @ Dec 15 2008, 03:34 PM) *
Hey ladies-
I've been lurking on this thread for a while, as so
many of us do.
I got tested for bv last week and for the first time in nearly a year
and a half it came up negative.
I am a very very happy woman right now, and
I wish to share my experience with you.


I'm really glad to here about your story! Because with all I've learned about probiotics, it seems like they would be a really good choice for self treating. How long were you doing this regimen before you noticed any results or were the results just gradual? Oh yeah, I've always wanted to know more about the effects of an alkaline diet. How long were you on it? I've been on an alkaline diet for about 3 weeks. I honestly feel different. Different in a good way.
neverending
QUOTE(Sweaty in Social Studies @ Dec 17 2008, 05:39 AM) *
I'm really glad to here about your story! Because with all I've learned about probiotics, it seems like they would be a really good choice for self treating. How long were you doing this regimen before you noticed any results or were the results just gradual? Oh yeah, I've always wanted to know more about the effects of an alkaline diet. How long were you on it? I've been on an alkaline diet for about 3 weeks. I honestly feel different. Different in a good way.


Good blog! When did you write it? I don't ever remember that being there. LOL
yme30
QUOTE(sooo sad @ Dec 17 2008, 12:36 AM) *
sassy, hon!

i was wondering, how long have you used boric acid in all? i've talked to my doctor about it and she doesn't have any clue about side effects, etc. i don't have insurance so i can't really find another dr cause of financial situation. i read in a post that you only use it about once a month now. how much did you use it in the begining? like everyday or 3-5 times a week? it seems like this is the only thing that helps me too. i used it for about 1.5-2 months straight, then i used femd vaginally for about 2-3weeks and then i didn't use anything for 2 days to see if it has gone away and i could feel it coming back. i feel so helpless and less of a women right now and i just shoved a boric acid up there cause i could feel it coming. sometimes i feel like commiting suicide because of this shit. i'm sooo sad and depressed right now. please help with any information, thanks in advance. sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif

sooo sad


So Sad I know how you feel I just finish a 10 day course of the metro pills and it didn't do NOTHING!!!!!!! I get so depressed and angry at my body and what I am going through hurts so much I cry at night and I pray like crazy. I have had BV for years and years I just want my life back .........................so now I go to the doc AGAIN for another script. Pray for me everyone and stay positive so sad we will all get through this together.
ladylustlove
QUOTE(Sweaty in Social Studies @ Dec 17 2008, 12:39 AM) *
I'm really glad to here about your story! Because with all I've learned about probiotics, it seems like they would be a really good choice for self treating. How long were you doing this regimen before you noticed any results or were the results just gradual? Oh yeah, I've always wanted to know more about the effects of an alkaline diet. How long were you on it? I've been on an alkaline diet for about 3 weeks. I honestly feel different. Different in a good way.



Thanks everyone!
I can't really say how long it took the probiotics to work since
i can't even recognize my symptoms! I've been takin the fem
for about a year now, the fem and ultimate flora together
for o, about 4 months or so??

Also, forgot to mention, i stuck femD up the cooch for
about a week straight and O MY! I was so freakin
itchy and uncomfortable!! I think i may have stuck
a boric in to calm my little lady down. My bod was NOT likin
that at all, not sure what exactly provoked such a reaction.

On the other hand, i used some pros meant specifically
for the cooch....eh...i forgot the brand, but
the uncomfy reaction didn't happen.
i think its the HMF probiotics perhaps?

as for the alkaline...... mebbe i've been on it a month
or 2. can't say i notice any crazy differences in my bod,
but i do feel good eating the fruits n veggies and knowin
i'm doin good for my body.

ladylustlove
QUOTE(sooo sad @ Dec 17 2008, 12:36 AM) *
i feel so helpless and less of a women right now and i just shoved a boric acid up there cause i could feel it coming. sometimes i feel like commiting suicide because of this shit. i'm sooo sad and depressed right now. please help with any information, thanks in advance. sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif

sooo sad


aw mama i hope you feel better.
Sweaty in Social Studies
QUOTE(ladylustlove @ Dec 18 2008, 12:41 AM) *
Thanks everyone!
I can't really say how long it took the probiotics to work since
i can't even recognize my symptoms! I've been takin the fem
for about a year now, the fem and ultimate flora together
for o, about 4 months or so??

Also, forgot to mention, i stuck femD up the cooch for
about a week straight and O MY! I was so freakin
itchy and uncomfortable!! I think i may have stuck
a boric in to calm my little lady down. My bod was NOT likin
that at all, not sure what exactly provoked such a reaction.

On the other hand, i used some pros meant specifically
for the cooch....eh...i forgot the brand, but
the uncomfy reaction didn't happen.
i think its the HMF probiotics perhaps?

as for the alkaline...... mebbe i've been on it a month
or 2. can't say i notice any crazy differences in my bod,
but i do feel good eating the fruits n veggies and knowin
i'm doin good for my body.




Okay. I'm glad to hear stories like yours. It makes it seem like there is hope for others that have BV. You know what's odd, you got BV after vacationing in the tropics and I also got an infection after I came back from a cruise. Maybe it was the elements that triggered it, maybe it was just a coincidence.
neptune
QUOTE(sooo sad @ Dec 17 2008, 04:36 AM) *
. sometimes i feel like commiting suicide because of this shit. i'm sooo sad and depressed right now. please help with any information, thanks in advance. sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif

sooo sad


I know what you mean sad.gif
Mine is back in full swing. It's gone from onions to fish overnight. It's in full, fishy, fucking swing.
Please don't give up on the thought that it could disappear just as quickly as it started. As bad as things are now, it's not necessarily going to be years and years.
ladylustlove
QUOTE(Sweaty in Social Studies @ Dec 18 2008, 07:41 AM) *
Okay. I'm glad to hear stories like yours. It makes it seem like there is hope for others that have BV. You know what's odd, you got BV after vacationing in the tropics and I also got an infection after I came back from a cruise. Maybe it was the elements that triggered it, maybe it was just a coincidence.



That is kind of interesting. Did you get any vaccinations?
Even though going on a vacation is relaxing,
I don't think we realize the kind of stress it
puts on our body. New environment, new people, etc.
Mebbe it messed with our immune system a bit??
Can't say i was vacationing in the most
sanitary of places either...kinda rustic.
mfc10
QUOTE(ladylustlove @ Dec 18 2008, 09:55 AM) *
Can't say i was vacationing in the most
sanitary of places either...kinda rustic.


My bout with BV started after returning home from a semi-rustic cabin vacation in Virginia! Could be the stress, though I thought I was relaxing! ohmy.gif

Hugs,
Maggie
Sweaty in Social Studies
QUOTE(ladylustlove @ Dec 18 2008, 09:55 AM) *
That is kind of interesting. Did you get any vaccinations?
Even though going on a vacation is relaxing,
I don't think we realize the kind of stress it
puts on our body. New environment, new people, etc.
Mebbe it messed with our immune system a bit??
Can't say i was vacationing in the most
sanitary of places either...kinda rustic.


I'm up to date with all of my vaccinations. I didn't get any vaccinations before I traveled. I didn't think that would matter, it possibly could have. It's kind of interesting that mfc10 said that she was vacationing in a "semi-rustic cabin vacation", and you said that you were also vacationing in a rustic environment. The ship I was on traveled to several islands. Hmmm ... maybe I encountered something rustic. I think it was probably the environmental change that caused it. Because with certain skin conditions a change in the climate or environment can cause flare ups, maybe the same could be said for this.
Sweaty in Social Studies
QUOTE(neverending @ Dec 17 2008, 08:56 AM) *
Good blog! When did you write it? I don't ever remember that being there. LOL


Thanks, I'm glad you like it! I started it around the beginning of December. A majority of that information is about probiotics because I wanted to be sure whether they really could treat vaginal infections or not. And they do! ... depending on which variety. biggrin.gif How are things going for you?
ladylustlove
Busties--
I have left out a big piece of info which also may
explain why i became bv free.
Me and my bf have not had sex in 2 months.
OK, the first month we were just having alot, alot of
anal. And then the 2nd month he was on vacation.

So perhaps I'm kinda allergic to his sperm??
He went on antibiotics with me b4, so i don't think he
has the bacteria, necessarily. Mebbe his
sperm just doesn't do well in my netherregion.

So we've decided to use condoms instead. Which
we are both not big fans of, but at least my pussy will
be healthy.

Weird. aren't pussies meant to have sperm in them?
wtf.
neverending
QUOTE(Sweaty in Social Studies @ Dec 19 2008, 12:47 PM) *
Thanks, I'm glad you like it! I started it around the beginning of December. A majority of that information is about probiotics because I wanted to be sure whether they really could treat vaginal infections or not. And they do! ... depending on which variety. biggrin.gif How are things going for you?


Things are great hun! Thanks for asking.
Sweaty in Social Studies
QUOTE(ladylustlove @ Dec 20 2008, 04:45 PM) *
Busties--
I have left out a big piece of info which also may
explain why i became bv free.
Me and my bf have not had sex in 2 months.
OK, the first month we were just having alot, alot of
anal. And then the 2nd month he was on vacation.

So perhaps I'm kinda allergic to his sperm??
He went on antibiotics with me b4, so i don't think he
has the bacteria, necessarily. Mebbe his
sperm just doesn't do well in my netherregion.

So we've decided to use condoms instead. Which
we are both not big fans of, but at least my pussy will
be healthy.

Weird. aren't pussies meant to have sperm in them?
wtf.



Since his sperm is alkaline it changes your delicate vaginal PH, which can cause an odor or lead to an infection.
lori
QUOTE(Sweaty in Social Studies @ Dec 21 2008, 02:25 AM) *
Since his sperm is alkaline it changes your delicate vaginal PH, which can cause an odor or lead to an infection.

That isn't really true. unsure.gif
trbutts
QUOTE(lori @ Dec 21 2008, 06:48 PM) *
That isn't really true. unsure.gif



I must admit, however,that I don't like for my boyfriend to ejaculate inside of me. Even though I'm on birth control, I just think that it's disgusting and sometimes the sperm takes a day or so to completely leak out of me and you can imagine how that smells when the last drop comes out. It doesn't have a fishy smell, but it smells like old nasty ass nut. I just think that I may let him do that once we honestly are trying to get pregnant. But until then, I just like the withdrawal method. I don't think that actual sperm is the reason that women get bv.
trbutts
Hi ladies!

I posted up here a few months ago and just discussed how I had gotten bv/Trich a few years ago and how I dealt with it. Since taking Metronidazole last October, I have been bv free. I had an abnormal pap smear when I went to the doctor, but I believe that I had Trichomoniasis simply because the antibiotics cleared the infection out so easily and it never returned. I've been discharge free and had no odors whatsoever. However, since dealing with that, I have been extremely careful with caring for my vagina and have continued to do research on bacterial vaginosis and other vaginal infections. I believe that if I have a very delicate environment down there and it is easy to disrupt it if I am not careful.

After I got treated last October, I did not have unprotected sex at all just because that minor incident made me extremely nervous. However, early this year, I started dating a guy and for the first five months, we never went without a condom. After I felt comfortable, we got tested together, and started to have unprotected sex. It's been three months that we have been having unprotected sex and I haven't had any symptoms or signs of an infections. But for those of you who do have boyfriends, have unprotected sex regularly, and are trying to prevent any infections, here are some tips that you may like:

*After sex, it's okay to cuddle for a few minutes, but I suggest that you get up within an hour and wash your vulva out with a mild soap. Most guys should understand. Our parts work entirely different than theirs.

*If your man has a big penis, use K-Y Jelly during sex just to ease any friction or pain. Some BV occurs from the vaginal skin being torn on the inside from lack of lubrication. It gets infected because the cut has no air on it to help it breathe and heal.

* When sex is over, and you have washed up, use pure Aloe Vera gel on the vulva and/or up inside the vagina if it is still sore or burning. It is as safe as K-Y Jelly or any other water based lubricant and really does ease the pain of a big dick.

*Make sure his hands are clean before he starts sticking his fingers in you. Same thing with his penis.

*Remember to keep sticking to a GENTLE soap everyday to wash your vagina. I keep feminine wash at my boyfriend's house!

*Sleep without underwear (Let it breathe!)

*Take a supplement that supports vaginal health. You could take acidophilus, garlic, or a probiotic. I take a multivitamin that has Vitamin A, Vitamin C & E, and Selenium (all of which are also good for vaginal health).

*This is mainly opinion-based, but I would like to know if any of you agree or have had the same problem. Years ago, when I first started having sex and did not know what to agree to, I would let my boyfriend ejaculate inside of me (I was on birth control). I would notice every time that he got that stuff in me, it would take about two days to completely drain out, and the entire time, it smelled like his old sperm and my juices. It didn't smell like fish, but it was still completely disgusting. Since then, I have not let any man ejaculate inside of me and I will not until I intend to get pregnant. Many of you should try it. You will notice that it really reduces any type of uncomfortable smells. Try the withdrawal method and let me know what you think.

*If you have any toys, vibrators, dildos, etc., but a nice soap for them and make sure you clean them thoroughly when done. It's a pain, I know. I have my favorite dildo that I use all the time and have had to force myself to get in the habit of waking up in the morning and scrubbing it down so that I don't get anything crazy in me next time.

*If you've been dealing with bv or or afraid of getting a vaginal infection (I am super anal since I've gotten rid of it) please don't be afraid to talk to your partner about it. I think a lot of females do not like to ask their partners to wash their hands or clean up before sex, but get used to it. My boyfriend knew how I felt when I first met him, and was surprised (but liked the fact) that I was so serious about condoms and wanted to get tested. Even though we don't use condoms now, he knows that I expect him to help me keep my vaginal health up.

Please reply to this thread, ladies, and give me some tips also! I hope I have been helpful. And since I made this so long, I especially hope you will take the time to drop me a few lines. Thanks girls, and stay beautiful!
mfc10
QUOTE(trbutts @ Dec 22 2008, 11:34 AM) *
I must admit, however,that I don't like for my boyfriend to ejaculate inside of me. Even though I'm on birth control, I just think that it's disgusting and sometimes the sperm takes a day or so to completely leak out of me and you can imagine how that smells when the last drop comes out. It doesn't have a fishy smell, but it smells like old nasty ass nut. I just think that I may let him do that once we honestly are trying to get pregnant. But until then, I just like the withdrawal method. I don't think that actual sperm is the reason that women get bv.


From Elizabeth Boskey, PhD on About.com: "Bacterial Vaginosis is an overgrowth of certain bacteria normally present at low levels in the vagina. No one is certain exactly what causes BV, or why some women are so susceptible to recurrent bacterial vaginosis, but one thing is for certain... BV stinks! Bacterial vaginosis isn't caused by sperm, but it's easy to understand why some women think it could be. BV symptoms get worse after unprotected sex, because the chemical compounds that cause the odor associated with BV are more noticeable at higher pH. Normally the vagina is mildly acidic, around pH 4. During bacterial vaginosis, the pH increases above 4.5. When semen is present, the vagina actually becomes neutral - pH 7 - and the amines, the chemical compounds that cause the "fishy smell," start to stink. What may be a barely noticeable infection when a woman is not having sex, all of a sudden becomes very obvious when she is, particularly if she doesn't use a condom. That's why many women think that bacterial vaginosis is caused by sex. However, although BV is certainly sexually associated, and made more obvious by sex, ongoing research is geared toward clarifying the role of sex and bacterial vaginosis."

(All About.com content focusing on diseases, conditions or containing health claims is reviewed by a team of board certified physicians and certified health professionals from leading institutions. The Medical Review Board was formed in October 2006 and all content created from that date forward has been closely reviewed for medical accuracy and consistency with source material. Meet the experts.)

Take care,
Maggie C.


ladylustlove
See, i'm the opposite. i looove the man i love coming inside
of me. Always have.
And i've had 2 other guys come inside of me before,
both times i was on the pill. and never bv.

Now with this guy, i get the bv.
when we don't have sex for 2 months, it
disappears for the first time in over a year.
I still want him to come in me,
but i must admit i'm glad to get off the pill.
I just don't like condoms so much.

so whats the deal?
what do you guys think?
ladylustlove
alriiggght. so me n the boy have decided to
use comdoms and spermicide.
then i'm doin research online and everything says
that spermicide can alter ur vag ph.
sad.gif
do you guys know of any ph balanced
spermicides?? does that even exist??

any other suggestions?
I'm desperate. And good with oral
sex for now, but i'm getting
the craving for some good ol
fashioned intercourse!
Sweaty in Social Studies
QUOTE(ladylustlove @ Dec 23 2008, 10:39 AM) *
See, i'm the opposite. i looove the man i love coming inside
of me. Always have.
And i've had 2 other guys come inside of me before,
both times i was on the pill. and never bv.

Now with this guy, i get the bv.
when we don't have sex for 2 months, it
disappears for the first time in over a year.
I still want him to come in me,
but i must admit i'm glad to get off the pill.
I just don't like condoms so much.

so whats the deal?
what do you guys think?


You can use the Rephresh Vaginal Gel after intercourse. It balances your vaginal PH. But it's not a spermicide.
(Click Here)

Nettyd
What is HP?
Sweaty in Social Studies
QUOTE(Nettyd @ Dec 23 2008, 03:22 PM) *
What is HP?


You mean PH? PH is the measure of acidity or basicity. It ranges from 0 to 14. (Here) is a PH scale. Typical vaginal PH ranges from 3.8 to 4.5 (source).
Lolasaurus
Though I really don't know much about spermicide (always been advised against it), I thought that the reason it was risky was that it can also act as a... lactobacilli-cide. just something to think about.

Have we collectively decided whether increased vaginal Ph is a cause of BV, a symptom, or both?

And, NettyD, HP could also be "hydrogen peroxide," around these parts. some ladies douche with an HP solution; most who have done so would probably discourage you from doing the same.

ALSO, Hewlett-Packard wink.gif
ladylustlove
o jeez, so i went to the pleasure chest
today in chicago
and they told me they don't even sell
spermicide. they told me it basically eats
away your vaginal wall over time,
making you more vulnerable to stds and
the like. didn't sound good.
so wtf.
Should i just stay on the pill
and use condoms at the same time?
thats what i'm leanin toward even
though i don't really want to!
Sweaty in Social Studies
QUOTE(ladylustlove @ Dec 23 2008, 10:34 PM) *
o jeez, so i went to the pleasure chest
today in chicago
and they told me they don't even sell
spermicide. they told me it basically eats
away your vaginal wall over time,
making you more vulnerable to stds and
the like. didn't sound good.
so wtf.
Should i just stay on the pill
and use condoms at the same time?
thats what i'm leanin toward even
though i don't really want to!


I knew spermicides were bad but I wasn't too sure how bad they were until I read about them on Planned Parenthood. Your pretty much right, they "irritate tissue and increase the risk of HIV and other sexually transmitted infections." Your best bet is to stay on the pill and use condoms.
oedipa maas
New here, but reading for awhile. I've had recurrent yeast infections and probably symptoms of bv since i was in highschool due to numerous courses of antibiotic treatments i was repeatedly put on. I was finally diagnosed and treated properly in October with flagyl, but i don't feel the bv was completely cleared up. I was never sexually active, and actually just had sex for the first time at 26. I'm wondering if anyone has had experience with vaginal bleeding after intercourse, it's been two or three days since and when i wake up in the morning i have quite a bit of blood in my discharge? I have read the both bv and yeast infections can cause there to be bleeding after intercourse. all of my tests back in October - apart from BV - were otherwise clear, my pap was clear, so i'm thinking it has to be the bv? i'm on flagyl again, but i'm taking a probiotic and cranberry pills to help replenish the good bacteria, and eating a more alkaline based diet. i'm thinking of trying non-dairy bio-k as well after reading the posts below. any advice would be greatly appreciated, as i'm reluctant to have sex again with my boyfriend and he doesn't know about any of this..
horror_movie
ahhhhhhhhhhhhh i just had to scream for a lil second. I still have BV i feel like it never gonna go away. Before i couldn't smell it but now i DO. Sometime it smell like must other time it strong fishy smell. At work A TEAM LEADER ask me did i ever have a STD I guess they realize where the smell was directly coming from. Everytime i walk by a co worker they talk about std's and its sign effect its crazy how people assume shit they don't know about.
IM WONDERING IF YOU HAVE HEMROIDS DO IT EFFECT YOUR VAGINA????? Help any info will be helpful!!!!
horror_movie
Using repHresh CAN YOU USE IT LIKE A EVERYDAY THING OR YOU HAVE TO TAKE A BREAK ON IT?
(LIKE THREE TIMES A MONTH) HELP ANY INFO WOULD BE GREAT???
horror_movie
HEY CAN YALL CHECK THIS OUT AND TELL ME WHAT YA THINK ABOUT IT??
http://www.detoxify.com/readycleanforwomen.html
Sweaty in Social Studies
QUOTE(horror_movie @ Dec 26 2008, 10:02 PM) *
ahhhhhhhhhhhhh i just had to scream for a lil second. I still have BV i feel like it never gonna go away. Before i couldn't smell it but now i DO. Sometime it smell like must other time it strong fishy smell. At work A TEAM LEADER ask me did i ever have a STD I guess they realize where the smell was directly coming from. Everytime i walk by a co worker they talk about std's and its sign effect its crazy how people assume shit they don't know about.
IM WONDERING IF YOU HAVE HEMROIDS DO IT EFFECT YOUR VAGINA????? Help any info will be helpful!!!!


Wow! They thought you had an STD? That is embarrassing. From what I've been reading about hemorrhoids, there's nothing that says it can affect the vagina. That's definitely something you want to talk about with your Gynecologist.


QUOTE
Using repHresh CAN YOU USE IT LIKE A EVERYDAY THING OR YOU HAVE TO TAKE A BREAK ON IT?
(LIKE THREE TIMES A MONTH) HELP ANY INFO WOULD BE GREAT???


Rephresh is only supposed to be used before or after sex, after your period, and to maintain vaginal freshness. It's not meant to cure or treat anything. It'll just cover up the BV temporarily, instead of actually getting rid of it. As directly stated in the frequently asked questions on the Rephresh website:

"Does RepHresh do anything for vaginal odor?
Yes. Vaginal odor is often about pH balance, not bad hygiene. If you are uncomfortable with your normal vaginal odor, the use of RepHresh will balance your pH and begin eliminating odor immediately after the first use. However, unusual vaginal odor can be a symptom of a more serious problem, and in this case you should see your doctor for a correct diagnosis." ((link))


QUOTE
HEY CAN YALL CHECK THIS OUT AND TELL ME WHAT YA THINK ABOUT IT??
http://www.detoxify.com/readycleanforwomen.html


This product doesn't sound very promising because:
  1. It's geared toward a healthy urinary tract and your problem seems to be vaginal.
  2. The best way to naturally "cleanse" your body is to, eat plenty of fiber and drink plenty of water.
The herbs used in that product aren't bad, but it's not going to help you vaginal infection. I hope you find something that works for you!
horror_movie
IS THERE ANY PILLS THAT HAVE FIBER IN THEM THAT I HAVE TO TAKE? I HAVE TO EAT WHOLE WHEAT BREAD? I DON'T DRINK ANY JUICE OR SODA ONLY VITAMIN WATER IS THAT OK?
neptune
QUOTE(oedipa maas @ Dec 26 2008, 07:32 AM) *
I'm wondering if anyone has had experience with vaginal bleeding after intercourse, it's been two or three days since and when i wake up in the morning i have quite a bit of blood in my discharge? I have read the both bv and yeast infections can cause there to be bleeding after intercourse. all of my tests back in October - apart from BV - were otherwise clear, my pap was clear, so i'm thinking it has to be the bv?


I had this for a while, when my bv was at its worst. Any penetration, even a finger, would cause bleeding. It seemed to be from the walls of the vagina as opposed to (or as well as) from deeper inside.
I asked my doctor about it and she just dismissed it and said it was due to the pill. She didn't even examine me blink.gif Anyway, I'm sure she was wrong because as soon as the bv cleared that time, the bleeding stopped immediately, and I'm still on the same pill. So yes, I think bv can definitely cause bleeding after penetration.
Sweaty in Social Studies
QUOTE(horror_movie @ Dec 27 2008, 01:57 PM) *
IS THERE ANY PILLS THAT HAVE FIBER IN THEM THAT I HAVE TO TAKE? I HAVE TO EAT WHOLE WHEAT BREAD? I DON'T DRINK ANY JUICE OR SODA ONLY VITAMIN WATER IS THAT OK?


There are plenty of foods that are high in fiber (link). Foods that contain fiber would be fruits, whole grains, and vegetables. Or you can take a fiber supplement like Benefiber, although I highly recommend that you eat foods containing fiber which your body will absorb properly. VitaminWater is actually pretty bad (label). I was just reading the table of contents and it contains chrystalline-fructose, which is just as bad as high fructose corn syrup, and a bunch of other foreign additives that I'm not familiar with. I myself try to avoid sport drinks, sodas and juices. They're always so high in sugar and other fluff. You should lean more towards water. It's crisp, light, refreshing and doesn't leave a bad after taste in your mouth. And it's really good for your overall health. But I have to ask ... why are you trying to "detoxify" your body?
horror_movie
QUOTE(Sweaty in Social Studies @ Dec 28 2008, 12:37 AM) *
There are plenty of foods that are high in fiber (link). Foods that contain fiber would be fruits, whole grains, and vegetables. Or you can take a fiber supplement like Benefiber, although I highly recommend that you eat foods containing fiber which your body will absorb properly. VitaminWater is actually pretty bad (label). I was just reading the table of contents and it contains chrystalline-fructose, which is just as bad as high fructose corn syrup, and a bunch of other foreign additives that I'm not familiar with. I myself try to avoid sport drinks, sodas and juices. They're always so high in sugar and other fluff. You should lean more towards water. It's crisp, light, refreshing and doesn't leave a bad after taste in your mouth. And it's really good for your overall health. But I have to ask ... why are you trying to "detoxify" your body?


Thanks for the advice!!! i been so occupied with work that i didn't take the time to take care of my situation. This time im gOING HANDLE IT!!
horror_movie
OH YEAH REPHRESH I USE IT ONCE AND THE SAME DAY I SMELL LIKE STRONG FISH I GUESS IT CAN'T BLOCK THE BV ODOR. I WASH UP WITH LIME SOMETIMES WITH TEASPOON OF VINGEAR NOTHING CAN STOP THE SMELL. I TRYING NOT TO LET THIS AFFECT MY LIFE BUT THE SMELL!!! WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?
Sweaty in Social Studies
QUOTE(horror_movie @ Jan 4 2009, 03:43 AM) *
OH YEAH REPHRESH I USE IT ONCE AND THE SAME DAY I SMELL LIKE STRONG FISH I GUESS IT CAN'T BLOCK THE BV ODOR. I WASH UP WITH LIME SOMETIMES WITH TEASPOON OF VINGEAR NOTHING CAN STOP THE SMELL. I TRYING NOT TO LET THIS AFFECT MY LIFE BUT THE SMELL!!! WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?


I understand where your coming from. Vaginal odor can be very annoying and stressful. I can see why you would use vinegar and lime juice to self treat. Lime and vinegar is very acidic. Lime is about 2.3 on the ph scale and vinegar is about 2.9 (article), a normal healthy vagina has a PH that ranges from 3.8 to 4.5 (article). And if the vaginal acidity goes down it can make room for infections. Although many people use vinegar/lime douches regularly or use it to get rid of an infection, there really is no proof that using either will actually cure anything. Douching clears out the vaginal coating which is composed of bacteria both good and bad. If most of the good bacteria is cleared out then the bad bacetria takes over and causes infection. That's what most people don't realize when they douche. The goal with maintaining a healthy vagina is to keep the vaginal acidity up and have more good bacteria than bad bacteria. Depending on the bacteria that takes over, it can cause an odor.

(Click Here) It's a great article on Bacterial Vaginosis and it explains the cause and reason for the vaginal odor in the 1st paragraph.

What medications have you taken to treat your BV? I'll try to give you advice or help you in what-ever way I can.
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neptune
Is there a difference between Balance Activ (which contains lactic acid) and Rephresh? I've been using Balance Activ every few days to keep my discharge under control. Obviously it's just a temporary fix. Not having too much of a problem with odour at the moment, but have a heavy green discharge when I don't use the BA.
JoanClayton
I haven't written in SUCH a long time, I was researching and came across Balance Activ, and was coming to the only reliable source for BV that I know of (BUST) to inquire and the first thing I see is Neptune asking a question about it...

WOW!

We can't get it in the US though sad.gif

I really think my issue is hormones and PH balance...Can you guys please start posting information and sources on how to get these two things in order?

I just ordered more FemD as someone went in my fridge and threw my last ones away.

I was also reading that antibiotics aren't necessarily necessary to rid the body of BV, yeast, or trich...Can someone please elaborate.

I always know when my vaginal condition is worsening because I get CHRONIC, CHRONIC unshakable fatigue.

Someone please chime in about hormones and PH balance.

Thanks!

Ps. This site: http://womenshealth.com/shop/catalog/produ...roducts_id/2179 has the PH testing kit for really cheap. I ordered 2...To test before and after, I also ordered the yeast suppositories.
neptune
QUOTE(JoanClayton @ Jan 6 2009, 02:25 AM) *
I haven't written in SUCH a long time, I was researching and came across Balance Activ, and was coming to the only reliable source for BV that I know of (BUST) to inquire and the first thing I see is Neptune asking a question about it...

WOW!


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Have you tried Rephresh? Does it work? I haven't tried it, but I'm not sure that Balance Activ would be any more effective. BA reduces my discharge for a couple of days, but I can't pass comment on how well it helps odour because my odour isn't particularly strong at the moment, and is more rotton or oniony than fishy atm.

I had a look online and it seems that Rephresh contains Purified Water USP, Glycerin, Polycarbophil, Carbopol 974P, Ethylparaben Sodium, Methylparaben Sodium, Propylparaben Sodium, Sodium Hydroxide.
Balance Active contains Lactic acid, glycogen, propylene glycol, methylhydroxypropyl cellulose, sodium lactate, water, pH3.8

The ingredients may be different, but I suspect the results are the same.

Anyone out there tried both?
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