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ShugD
Hi sooo sad....
It sounds like you have come up with a good routine to keep BV controlled. I think your routine makes sense and will try it. Thanks for sharing what has been working for you.
Sweaty in Social Studies
QUOTE(ShugD @ Jul 1 2009, 02:22 PM) *
The key is to find a way to keep a normal balance of good bacteria in the vagina. Anyone know of a natural way to introduce good bacteria? I have read that there are two types of good bacteria in the vagina. One: Lactobacillus Crispatus (CTV-05) and Two: Lactobacillus Jensenii
I have been unable to locate a probiotic that contains either of those strains. I am hoping someone out there knows something about this.


If I'm correct, according to the excerpt from this book (here/scroll down to the chart on page 16) there is one product that is confirmed to contain l.crispatus, and another species of l.acidophilus called l.paracasei. It is called, "Fysiq (Mona)" by a company in the Netherlands called Campina. The company calls their strain of l.crispatus "l.acidophilus Gilliand." (Here) is a link to their "Mona" products.

I'm assuming there are more companies that incorporate l.crispatus into their products. They'll just be a little hard to find.

I hope I was of some help biggrin.gif.
sea star

Hello "Fun" I am new to this forum.

I have BV since I was 14 I am 23 now,I have BV with odor too.
I was a virgin when I got BV and I am still a virgin now.
I don't work now,the longest time that I have worked is 2 months and 6 days,I had to quid joobs because of the odor too and because the people where very mean.I live with my pharents.
My sister has BV with odor too and she is also I virgin.
I dont go out,don't have any friends,I had friends before I got BV.
People who know that I have an odor call me a whore and the truth is that I am a virgin.I never had a boyfriend,never been kissed,the closest that I have got to a man is a hand shake.

"Fun" have you ever used the antibiotic Doxycycline,It worked the best for me and my sister than the other antibiotics.After I used it the odor lessened a lot.

Use 2 Doxycycline capsules in the morning,than one in the evening for 8 days.That's 10 capsules.
After the antibiotic you may get a yeast infection,so you have to bay cream for yeast infections.
Ask your doctor to perscribe you Doxycycline, if she or he doesen't want to go to another doctor.
Also use probiotics when you start with the antibiotic.

I used Flagyl many times it doesen't help,orally and as a vaginal supposatorie.

I hope this helps.

Sea star




QUOTE(Sweaty in Social Studies @ Apr 20 2009, 10:03 PM) *
Hello "Fun,"

I'm sorry to hear about your situation. You can count on me for support, because I'm definitely here to help you in the best way that I can. "Fun," it's really important to realize that you shouldn't let this infection control you to the point where your not happy with yourself, and your life. If you continue this way, it can further damage your self esteem, and self confidence, to the point where you could possibly develop a mild form of depression, which can be dangerous.

You mentioned that you douched to treat your infection. This was a bad idea. In your case, it instantly made your symptoms worse, and this might have thrown off your vaginal flora. I think I've said this before, but douching is one of the worst things you can do to attempt to treat an active vaginal infection of any sort. More often than not, douching will cover up your symptoms, which is why when you douche, you think the infection has cleared up, but in reality, it never did in the first place. I'm not sure if you knew already, but hydrogen peroxide is used for cleaning cuts and scrapes. Not only that, but according to the National Institute of Health, it is also a poison. A solution as corrosive as hydrogen peroxide shouldn't be going into the vaginal in the first place. Click here to read more information on this. I'm assuming you don't have much money, so you should be very careful about what your using to treat yourself, because it may be a waste of time and money. And using the wrong thing could escalate your infection to something so much more, which could require medical insurance, and lots of money to treat.

It's great that your taking the Rephresh probiotic. Your taking a step in the right direction. Rephresh will most definitely help you if you continue taking it on a daily basis. Culterelle is more or less a preventative, it's probably not going to do much for you. There isn't any clinical research that approves it for maintaining vaginal health. Folic acid is rumored by many women to treat bacterial vaginosis when it's taken with a lactobacillius acidophilus supplement. I've done my research, such as reading books, surfing through medical articles online, and asking medical professionals. Low and behold, there is nothing that states folic acid does anything for the vulvovaginal tract. This is probably due to the lack of research on folic acid, but I know for sure that an over the counter lactobacillius acidophilus supplement's live and active cultures don't normally colonize the vulvovaginal tract. Vitamin C is great for the immune system, but it's water soluble, so taking any excess of Vitamin C will be flushed out into your urinary tract. Your body will absorb what it needs, and flush out the rest, the same way you drink a cup of water and your body flushes out what it doesn't need. Then there is this whole debate about whether supplements are getting absorbed properly and other jazz, that's a whole other story. Any respectable nutritionist will tell you there is no need to take a vitamin supplement if your getting proper nutrition. It's better to get nutrients from whole foods because it will be absorbed properly.

I personally believe it isn't necessary to use feminine washes and wipes. They just leave an invisible residue near that vulva which can further irritate it. Some products can further aggravate an infection because it reacts to the pH of the vagina. You don't need to use any soap to clean, or "wash" the vulva. Just plain old water and a little rubbing will get the job done. This technique is so safe, it can be done as often as necessary. Water is pure and pH balanced, so it will not react to the high vaginal pH. There are some products that I could personally recommend that you try, but, your better off just not using any for the reasons that I stated. It's cheaper, and better for you. As the saying goes, "less is more," is absolutely right when it comes to the vagina. It's self cleaning and self sustaining, which is why you get regular vaginal secretions (discharge.) The vagina is actually cleaner than the mouth. Don't be fooled when you experience a vaginal odor and assume it's because your dirty, it's just because of an imbalance of bacteria.

Since your using your local libraries computer, I will recommend you some beneficial reading materials. These are great reads. Although they may not be available, you can still check. I recommend that you read:
  • The V Book by Elizabeth Gunther Stewart
  • Probiotics Revolution: The Definitive Guide to Safe, Natural Health Solutions Using Probiotic and Prebiotic Foods and Supplements by Gary B. Huffnagle and Sarah Wernick
  • (Textbook) Women's Gynecologic Health by Kerri D. Schuiling and Frances E. Likis
You should attempt to read any books pertaining to gynecology and vaginal health.

This is personal advice coming from me, to you.

From,
Sweaty in Social Studies

sooo sad
shugD

try it and tell me how it goes! i hope it works for you. FYI, it took me a few weeks to find my routine. what works for me might not work for you and vice versa but it's a shot at this damn thing.

kit hon!!! good luck!!!
horror_movie
One Question Did anyone ever spoke to they doctor about surgically removing the virus that causing bad bacteria?
hey all theses technology it possible(they do all those sex changes)
auralpoison
QUOTE(horror_movie @ Jul 4 2009, 02:17 PM) *
One Question Did anyone ever spoke to they doctor about surgically removing the virus that causing bad bacteria?
hey all theses technology it possible(they do all those sex changes)


Of course not, that's ridiculous. You cannot "surgically remove" a virus & sex change procedures are wholly unrelated to BV, so I don't know why you even brought it up in that context.

Also, is English your second language, H_M? I only ask because sometimes your train of thought is difficult to follow & it would explain a lot.
Sweaty in Social Studies
QUOTE(horror_movie @ Jul 4 2009, 02:17 PM) *
One Question Did anyone ever spoke to they doctor about surgically removing the virus that causing bad bacteria?
hey all theses technology it possible(they do all those sex changes)


In a nutshell ...

Viruses and bacteria are two different species of organisms. Viruses are non-cellular, and bacteria are uni-cellular organisms. Bacteria can be treated, while viruses can to, but not cured; an example of this would be HPV. The concept of viruses and bacteria is so complex, because there are so many different species, and each species has a different property, an example of this is the common cold. The common cold is a virus, of which there are many, but is virtually harmless, and the body builds an immunity to it very quickly; whereas HIV progressively gets worse without treatment, and the body doesn't become immune to it.

Bacteria works very differently. There are approximately 10 trillion bacteria that live in the human body. Scientists can identify there are about 1000 different species of bacteria. An example of how important bacteria is, is how it lives in the digestive tract, and helps people breakdown, and digest food. Not having enough "good" bacteria in the digestive tract, can cause an endless amount of health problems, even cancer related.

It would be much easier to do a sex change, where you can clearly see what your working with, as to using a microscope, and a petri-dish to stabilize a bacteria, and examine it. Bacteria and viruses don't need to be surgically removed. By simply swabbing a Q-tip against your palm, you can pick up thousands of different bacteria, and DNA. To remove each and every single bacteria by hand would be extremely time consuming, and unrealistic. Bacteria, and viruses alike multiply so quickly, by the time you remove one single bacteria, another 100 would show up within seconds.

I can reassure you there are so many drugs being tested specifically for bacterial vaginosis in clinical trials. I think I've said this to someone else before, but the best thing you can do is participate in one of these trials. It's being monitored by the FDA, and being conducted by college universities, and pharmaceutical companies. Trained scientists, doctors, and interns are of great assistance. If you've tried everything, you have nothing to lose. A lot of the drugs in these trials are potentially better than the ones that are currently being prescribed because they have to be. The thing is, you have to meet the criteria to actually participate, that's a whole other story.

Can you tell I love rambling on and on about science? ... tongue.gif
Did I answer your question? If not, I'll try to clarify.
horror_movie
QUOTE(Sweaty in Social Studies @ Jul 5 2009, 07:37 AM) *

In a nutshell ...

Viruses and bacteria are two different species of organisms. Viruses are non-cellular, and bacteria are uni-cellular organisms. Bacteria can be treated, while viruses can to, but not cured; an example of this would be HPV. The concept of viruses and bacteria is so complex, because there are so many different species, and each species has a different property, an example of this is the common cold. The common cold is a virus, of which there are many, but is virtually harmless, and the body builds an immunity to it very quickly; whereas HIV progressively gets worse without treatment, and the body doesn't become immune to it.

Bacteria works very differently. There are approximately 10 trillion bacteria that live in the human body. Scientists can identify there are about 1000 different species of bacteria. An example of how important bacteria is, is how it lives in the digestive tract, and helps people breakdown, and digest food. Not having enough "good" bacteria in the digestive tract, can cause an endless amount of health problems, even cancer related.

It would be much easier to do a sex change, where you can clearly see what your working with, as to using a microscope, and a petri-dish to stabilize a bacteria, and examine it. Bacteria and viruses don't need to be surgically removed. By simply swabbing a Q-tip against your palm, you can pick up thousands of different bacteria, and DNA. To remove each and every single bacteria by hand would be extremely time consuming, and unrealistic. Bacteria, and viruses alike multiply so quickly, by the time you remove one single bacteria, another 100 would show up within seconds.

I can reassure you there are so many drugs being tested specifically for bacterial vaginosis in clinical trials. I think I've said this to someone else before, but the best thing you can do is participate in one of these trials. It's being monitored by the FDA, and being conducted by college universities, and pharmaceutical companies. Trained scientists, doctors, and interns are of great assistance. If you've tried everything, you have nothing to lose. A lot of the drugs in these trials are potentially better than the ones that are currently being prescribed because they have to be. The thing is, you have to meet the criteria to actually participate, that's a whole other story.

Can you tell I love rambling on and on about science? ... tongue.gif
Did I answer your question? If not, I'll try to clarify.


Thanks I appreciate it. The reason why I came up with that idea because i was reading this book on how to cure bv in 3 days!! In the book they mention surgery
Sweaty in Social Studies
QUOTE(horror_movie @ Jul 6 2009, 11:40 AM) *
Thanks I appreciate it. The reason why I came up with that idea because i was reading this book on how to cure bv in 3 days!! In the book they mention surgery

That's interesting ... what is the title of the book?
anitsirhc
i was reading about L. crispatus and remembered seeing it on a different website. someone is using the product HLC Mindlinx which has that in it.

here's a link to it: mindlinx

i wanted to ask your opinions... i've always read that bv discharge is thin and gray. mine has never been that color. more yellowish/green. and the smell isn't necessarily always fishy... sometimes it is but not always. i dont know.


QUOTE(sooo sad @ Jul 1 2009, 05:17 PM) *
hello ladies............

i haven't wrote for awhile but i do read and try to keep up with everything at least once a week. a lot of new busties here.

just wanted to update on my condition....

well, i've had bv since 2007. drs have tested for every std known to man, everything neg except for bv everytime. been on clindamycin, flagyl (about 4 times), and another antifiobic but forgot the name. nothing helped. i don't really have a smell but a thin, gray discharge with itching and buring sometimes. did some research found boric acid...name brand yeast arrest. yes, mainly for yeast infections but it cures bv also. i did that for a whole month as recommended. the discharge went away for like 2 days. then found this site and LORI;) mentioned FEMDOPHILIS. i have been taking this religiously for almost 1.5 years. it made my discharge less but still there, then i tried SASSY's:) regimen.....she makes her own boric acid with capsules. the yeast arrest has other herbal stuff in it and it made me have a discharge all day but the symptoms where gone while using it. so i tried making it and it's better than the yeast arrest. same effect but the discharge is way less, about 90% less. so i tried inserting femdophilis too. i know that the boric acid kills the bad bacteria and some good also so i wanted to replenish the good and i thought why not insert the femdophilis. i did and sometimes i noticed some blood, i thought it might be the capsule so i would open the capsule and empty the bacteria in the gelatin caps that i use for boric acid. works like a charm. so what i do now is insert a boric acid monday, femdophilis tues, wed, thurs night, then boric on fri, sat and sun nothing. i've been doing this since dec 2008. at first i had to play with it, then eventually i came up with my routine. i have sex only with trojan ultra thin condoms and i use silk as a lubricant because it's all natural ingredients and not too harsh for the vagina. i can cope with the extra effort to be almost a normal woman. hopefully in the future my vagina can be like it was before.

hope this helps someone. i really needed help when i first had to deal with this horrid devil. i became suicidal also. at least i can help one person and i will be happy.

so my daily routine:

1. femdophilis in am by mouth(every am)
2. monday-boric acid at night. tuesday, wednesday, thursday-femdophilis emptied into a gelatin cap, insert at night. friday-boric acid at night. saturday and sunday-nothing
3. every night ultimate support vaginal flora by mouth(every night)
4. more fresh foods, less processed. i don't know if it helps but i do it anyways.

hope this helps someone:)


where do you find boric acid that you can use for that? i'm thinking of trying what you're doing. the biofem isn't working very well for me. it was at first, but it seems like my body becomes resistant to whatever im using and it still comes back. even while i'm using it.

i'm thinking of asking my boyfriend to take out his piercings down there because i think they might be making me a lot worse. but if he takes them out he can't ever put them back in, so i'll feel bad if it doesn't do anything.
sooo sad

anitsirhc

you can find boric acid powder a pharmacy. i think one of the busties here buys it at walmart and another buys hers online at amazon.com. you can get the capsules at a health food store or a whole foods market if you live near one.

hope this helps!!
Grace08
You can't get Boric Acid anywhere in the UK. It is not available. Neither is FemD.

I feel the UK, and BV sufferers who live here, are at a disadvantage to US sufferers.

Am I wrong? Tell me. Balance Activ you can get here in pharmacies, but I believe that's available stateside now too.

I know there are other parts of the world - not just UK and US. Just wish sometimes that I could get FemD, Boric Acid.

I might just be a little down in the dumps too.

It's a shame this site is so quiet. I'm just saying - before anyone quips in to say I could be contributing too. It just used to be live-lier.

sad.gif G
arj75
Hi everyone... It's been awhile since I have posted. I still have BV, but not as bad as it once was. I hope you all don't avoid going to the dentist for your check-ups so you can save money for treating BV! I have 7 cavities and one abcessed tooth. (It had been ten years since my last visit to the dentist). There are a lot of case studies linking BV and periodontal issues.
horror_movie
Today was horrible day!! Bv smell must have gotten worst bcuz everybody was being so mean to me. They act like i was some homeless person stinking up Target. Omg I'm so hurt people look at me like i did something bad to them. I over heard some co worker talking about my vagina. They were saying oh how it shouldn't be smelling like that, it smell like fish, who will have sex with me smelling like that and that I have Urinary Tract Infection actually i laugh on that one. My manager was talking to me with his back turn he couldn't even face me. I'm a big out cast in the job no one speaks to me unless it involve work. I feel like I'm in High School everybody pick on me and majority are very unattractive and they make fun of me bcuz of my smell. arrrrrrrggggggghhhh atleast I have an excuse what the heck are they excuse for being so damn ugly with an ugly personality.
auralpoison
*bump*

Your coworkers are total assholes, H_M. It's a MEDICAL CONDITION, for fuck's sake.
Sweaty in Social Studies
QUOTE(horror_movie @ Jul 17 2009, 01:11 AM) *
Today was horrible day!! Bv smell must have gotten worst bcuz everybody was being so mean to me. They act like i was some homeless person stinking up Target. Omg I'm so hurt people look at me like i did something bad to them. I over heard some co worker talking about my vagina. They were saying oh how it shouldn't be smelling like that, it smell like fish, who will have sex with me smelling like that and that I have Urinary Tract Infection actually i laugh on that one. My manager was talking to me with his back turn he couldn't even face me. I'm a big out cast in the job no one speaks to me unless it involve work. I feel like I'm in High School everybody pick on me and majority are very unattractive and they make fun of me bcuz of my smell. arrrrrrrggggggghhhh atleast I have an excuse what the heck are they excuse for being so damn ugly with an ugly personality.

My heart goes out to you. People can be so judgemental even though they don't know your situation. I'll keep you in my prayers.

I remember there was a woman that told her story about how she had bacterial vaginosis for twenty or more years. My heart goes out to her as well. It scares me to think bacterial vaginosis can last over twenty years mellow.gif. It's clearly taking it's toll on you (emotionally). This should give you the drive to fight it aggressively. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger.
help*me
http://bvgoneforever.com/ >>>>>hey guys, is this site for real?
help*me
what's femanol? has anyone ever tried it?
sea star
QUOTE(help*me @ Jul 18 2009, 11:46 PM) *
what's femanol? has anyone ever tried it?


I tried it,it doesen't cure BV.
Femanol contains;Lactobacillus,B vitamins , neem bark powder and Beta glucan I think,I don't remember if it contains garlic.I used it one year ago.It's the same if you use probiotics and folic acid,when you use them the smell is gone but when you stop the smell comes back.
After 30 days of useing Femanol I started to smell like something sweet.The sweet smell was very strong,I remember that the weather was hot and I was standing in my yard and the sweet smel was soo strong that bees started flaying around my private area.After I finished the capsules,the sweet smell was gone and the amonia smell came back.
Enzara is similar like Femanol it contains herbs and probiotics.Also there is a product called Destinol.I haven't used this two.I tried to order Enzara but they don't ship this product in my country,I live in Europe.I think this products don't cure BV they just mask the smell.
anitsirhc
i bought boric acid from amazon.com. it's boric acid powder. on the website it said specifically for vaginal yeast infections. i got the boric acid and the bottle says "poison for technical use only not for internal use." i'm scared!! did i get the right one? it doesn't say anything about roaches or anything else like that though.

anyway, right now i don't really have that much smell but a lot of discharge. i don't know if i should bother with boric acid if i'm don't have a problem with how i smell. i've been using biofem, takingn primadophilus reuteri and using condoms all of the time. it's still there but not as bad as it was.

if someone could please let me know about the boric acid that would help a lot!!!
mfc10
QUOTE(anitsirhc @ Jul 19 2009, 09:45 PM) *
i bought boric acid from amazon.com. it's boric acid powder. on the website it said specifically for vaginal yeast infections. i got the boric acid and the bottle says "poison for technical use only not for internal use." i'm scared!! did i get the right one? it doesn't say anything about roaches or anything else like that though.

if someone could please let me know about the boric acid that would help a lot!!!


This sounds like the right stuff. Yes, it IS poisonous, so don't ever take it orally or place in an open wound. I used it vaginally (in a capsule made up by a compounding pharmacy) for 2 weeks in a row, then every other night for another couple weeks, then just once/week (for maintenance) for a month or two. It will also effect good bacteria as well as bad, so be sure to take something like FemDophilus during that time and after treatment stops. If you look up Fem Dophilus on this site or on the Net, you'll find out a lot of good info on it. I still take one per day to maintain...no BV or yeast for three years now.

Hugs,
Maggie
help*me
[Hi Europe,

thanks for the info. So, you mean its the same as using L. acidophilus capsules that you buy in local health stores?I tried using it one time, the smell had gone away, but the discharge didn't so i temporarily stopped.

I've been suffering from this Bv for the last 4 years and I'm just wondering, i was once diagnosed with HPV.. how come I got BV? Then, There are times i get tricho...other times with yeast infection. Can anyone tell me what to do coz i'm really bothered with my conditon.
auralpoison
You should go back & read through the archives, Help*me. Toggle the little pink box on the left that says 237 pages to go back in time & read what others have written about their trials with this insidious condition. There's a lot of support & a lot of helpful information.

Sea Star was the Bustie kind enough to help you, but she is from Europe!
sea star
QUOTE(help*me @ Jul 20 2009, 11:34 PM) *
[Hi Europe,

thanks for the info. So, you mean its the same as using L. acidophilus capsules that you buy in local health stores?I tried using it one time, the smell had gone away, but the discharge didn't so i temporarily stopped.

I've been suffering from this Bv for the last 4 years and I'm just wondering, i was once diagnosed with HPV.. how come I got BV? Then, There are times i get tricho...other times with yeast infection. Can anyone tell me what to do coz i'm really bothered with my conditon.



Hi 'help me'
HPV lowers your vaginal immunity so that's way you get BV and yeast infections,this is my opinion.
Trihomoniasis and HPV are STD's and BV and yeast infections are not STD's ,I am sure you alredy know this.
What kind of antibiotics have you used?
Flagyl kills Trihomoniasis 99% but Flagyl doesen't cure BV.
If you use antibiotics ,they give you a yeast infection so you need to use Diflucan or anti yeast creams after you finish the antibiotic but I am sure you already know this too.
For the HPV trye useing Ravensara oil vaginall supposatories.Ravensara oil has anti viral and antibacterial properties.
I used Ravensara oil vag. supp. but they didn't help me with my BV.
I only have BV,I don't have HPV,I am a virgin.I was never diagnosed with BV,but I know I have it because of the odor,I have it for 10 years.I was only diagnosed with Candida spp.They didn't even tell me if I had Candida yeasts or Candida germs.

Sea Star
sea star
QUOTE(sea star @ Jul 21 2009, 06:13 AM) *
Hi 'help me'
HPV lowers your vaginal immunity so that's way you get BV and yeast infections,this is my opinion.
Trihomoniasis and HPV are STD's and BV and yeast infections are not STD's ,I am sure you alredy know this.
What kind of antibiotics have you used?
Flagyl kills Trihomoniasis 99% but Flagyl doesen't cure BV.
If you use antibiotics ,they give you a yeast infection so you need to use Diflucan or anti yeast creams after you finish the antibiotic but I am sure you already know this too.
For the HPV trye useing Ravensara oil vaginall supposatories.Ravensara oil has anti viral and antibacterial properties.
I used Ravensara oil vag. supp. but they didn't help me with my BV.
I only have BV,I don't have HPV,I am a virgin.I was never diagnosed with BV,but I know I have it because of the odor,I have it for 10 years.I was only diagnosed with Candida spp.They didn't even tell me if I had Candida yeasts or Candida germs.

Sea Star


I copied and paste this message from another bacterial vaginosis group.
Sea Star


Aparently men have odor from their penise's too and I don't mean natural scent,I mean strong odor just like the odor in woman who have BV.Yes fishy odor is not only a woman's smell men can have it too.In man this is not called BV it's called MGO(Male Genital Odors).
Also in men this is not an STD too.

I read an e mail,a woman said that her husbent had very strong odor from his penis,if this is an STD the woman would start too smell to but she doesn't,only her husbans smells.Also another proof that this is not an STD is another e mail that I have read,the boy is 18 years old,he said the he has a fishy smell even after a shower and that he smells fishy in school too,he said that he has no STD's and that he is a vigin.

There is a product for MGO it is called NodorO it is a cream.

Type NodorO in thr search boox and visit their site,click on the Home button,there is a video about this,Hauard Stern and Larry King talk about it,watch it.

I coopied and pased this.

Nora


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JoanClayton
Just stumbled across something that had no more than 1000 searches on Google, so I feel like not many people have heard of this yet. I was going to be the guiney pig and purchase, let me know what you guys think, or if you have heard about this before: Kristina's BV Cures System... Her name is Kristina J. Tomlin. Please chime in with your knowledge on this and your opinions.

Its a $30 E-book, once I get it, I will give it to you guys for free, and we can disect it and tear it apart and see if it may help and or make sense.

This definetly sounds too good to be true, but seeing as how I typed the key words and SCAM and nothing came up, I'm interested to read it and know what this household ingredient is...

See BVtreatment.net

Thanks.
JoanClayton
Sorry double post.
Sweaty in Social Studies
Just yesterday I watched a film about pollution, and the garbage we accumulate, which negatively impacts the Earth. Well to my surprise, there was a study featured in the film that tested people for a number of 88 toxins in their bodies (even though there are thousands of toxins). Most of the people had over 42 of the 88 toxins tested for. After I watched the film, I looked up the study, and read more about it. To my surprise, some of the toxins specifically target the reproductive organs, which can "affect reproductive ability and sexual function."

There was also another toxic chemical, called hormone disrupting chemicals, which can "mimic, block or interfere with hormones such as estrogen, androgen and the thyroid. Can lead to reproductive defects, reduced fertility, and neurological, behavioural and developmental problems." There are also carcinogenic, respiratory toxins, among other things.

This may seem like a "whatever" kind of thing, but these toxins can be wreaking havoc on your internal organs, and could also be the root to your health related issues. I left the links to both the film and the study.

1. Garbage! The Revolution Starts At Home - An Andrew Nisker film
2. Toxic Nation - Pollution, It's in you!
horror_movie
QUOTE(Sweaty in Social Studies @ Jul 22 2009, 10:45 AM) *
Just yesterday I watched a film about pollution, and the garbage we accumulate, which negatively impacts the Earth. Well to my surprise, there was a study featured in the film that tested people for a number of 88 toxins in their bodies (even though there are thousands of toxins). Most of the people had over 42 of the 88 toxins tested for. After I watched the film, I looked up the study, and read more about it. To my surprise, some of the toxins specifically target the reproductive organs, which can "affect reproductive ability and sexual function."

There was also another toxic chemical, called hormone disrupting chemicals, which can "mimic, block or interfere with hormones such as estrogen, androgen and the thyroid. Can lead to reproductive defects, reduced fertility, and neurological, behavioural and developmental problems." There are also carcinogenic, respiratory toxins, among other things.

This may seem like a "whatever" kind of thing, but these toxins can be wreaking havoc on your internal organs, and could also be the root to your health related issues. I left the links to both the film and the study.

1. Garbage! The Revolution Starts At Home - An Andrew Nisker film
2. Toxic Nation - Pollution, It's in you!



Your Right about the toxin But the question is What good product can help reduce the toxins in our body?
horror_movie
QUOTE(sea star @ Jul 20 2009, 04:59 PM) *
I copied and paste this message from another bacterial vaginosis group.
Sea Star
Aparently men have odor from their penise's too and I don't mean natural scent,I mean strong odor just like the odor in woman who have BV.Yes fishy odor is not only a woman's smell men can have it too.In man this is not called BV it's called MGO(Male Genital Odors).
Also in men this is not an STD too.

I read an e mail,a woman said that her husbent had very strong odor from his penis,if this is an STD the woman would start too smell to but she doesn't,only her husbans smells.Also another proof that this is not an STD is another e mail that I have read,the boy is 18 years old,he said the he has a fishy smell even after a shower and that he smells fishy in school too,he said that he has no STD's and that he is a vigin.

There is a product for MGO it is called NodorO it is a cream.

Type NodorO in thr search boox and visit their site,click on the Home button,there is a video about this,Hauard Stern and Larry King talk about it,watch it.

I coopied and pased this.

Nora
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This product don't seem like it could work for females. I don't know whoever try it can you update us on
how it work for you!! good thing about it you get your money back if it don't work
sea star
QUOTE(horror_movie @ Jul 23 2009, 01:56 PM) *
This product don't seem like it could work for females. I don't know whoever try it can you update us on
how it work for you!! good thing about it you get your money back if it don't work



HI horror movie

I didn't tryed this product,it's just for men.I copied and pased this just to inform you that man can have the same problems like us woman.

Sea Star
sea star
QUOTE(sea star @ Jul 23 2009, 10:20 PM) *
HI horror movie

I didn't tryed this product,it's just for men.I copied and pased this just to inform you that man can have the same problems like us woman.

Sea Star



I shouldn't copie the part where it says "Click here and order" because it sounds like an adretise,I acidently copied the whole article.

Sea Star
Sweaty in Social Studies
QUOTE(horror_movie @ Jul 23 2009, 12:23 AM) *
Your Right about the toxin But the question is What good product can help reduce the toxins in our body?


On the Toxic Nation web site, there is actually a list of the top 10 ways to detoxify. I left the link below. Luckily, detoxifying doesn't require anything extravagant. And of course, drinking plenty of water, and consuming foods containing fiber is another method of detoxifying. Both should be a part of your daily diet. Try to avoid purchasing products that are marketed for the use of detoxifying. More often than not, they are total scams, or simply don't work. You can consult with your GP if you have any questions or concerns about certain "things." Doctors typically give great insight on products that they're familiar with. I consider my doctors opinion to the point where I ask her to evaluate a product for me just so I know if it's legitimate or not blink.gif.

1. Toxic Nation - "Top 10 Ways to Detoxify"
horror_movie
QUOTE(Sweaty in Social Studies @ Jul 23 2009, 07:33 PM) *
On the Toxic Nation web site, there is actually a list of the top 10 ways to detoxify. I left the link below. Luckily, detoxifying doesn't require anything extravagant. And of course, drinking plenty of water, and consuming foods containing fiber is another method of detoxifying. Both should be a part of your daily diet. Try to avoid purchasing products that are marketed for the use of detoxifying. More often than not, they are total scams, or simply don't work. You can consult with your GP if you have any questions or concerns about certain "things." Doctors typically give great insight on products that they're familiar with. I consider my doctors opinion to the point where I ask her to evaluate a product for me just so I know if it's legitimate or not blink.gif.

1. Toxic Nation - "Top 10 Ways to Detoxify"


thanks I'm going to the doctor to get my toxin level check out and hormone level too!!
horror_movie
QUOTE(sea star @ Jul 23 2009, 08:50 AM) *
HI horror movie

I didn't tryed this product,it's just for men.I copied and pased this just to inform you that man can have the same problems like us woman.

Sea Star


My doctor always told men can't get odor out there penis it's only in women because we have so much going on in there!! Thanks on the info
anitsirhc
i've been using boric acid every night for 5 nights. i have no smell at all and just a little discharge. i'm going to use it 2 more nights and then start inserting primadophilus reuteri. i plan to use that a few nights then boric acid once or twice a week from now on.

my question is, is boric acid bad to use regularly? i know it kills good and bad bacteria so i always plan on using primadophilus reuteri also. i just feel like boric acid is harsh and might cause other problems if i use it regularly.
help*me
Hi guys,

Has anyone tried using garlic suppositories, to cure yeast infection and BV? would appreciate any comment.
thanks!
Sweaty in Social Studies
QUOTE(help*me @ Aug 3 2009, 12:26 AM) *
Hi guys,

Has anyone tried using garlic suppositories, to cure yeast infection and BV? would appreciate any comment.
thanks!

I haven't tried garlic suppositories, but I did take a garlic supplement. I took it to treat a mild infection I had in my mouth. My doctor told me to try taking a garlic supplement, because I was reluctant to take antibiotics. It worked within the span of 8-12 days. But garlic is more used to control high cholesterol than treat infections. There aren't any conclusive studies for garlic curing infections of any sort, which is why I can't whole-heartily recommend it to other people. In my opinion, I don't think it would be the most appropriate treatment for a bacterial vaginosis infection, because there are better methods out there with more compelling results. It may work for a yeast infection though. And that's a definite maybe. I think there was a woman on this forum that said she did garlic suppositories, and it worked for her; I just don't remember her name. You should browse the archives to see what others said.

Best wishes.
horror_movie
Hey Everybody
This Bv thing is very frustrating and I'm currently dealing with stupid bad bacteria that causing me to smell like fish everyday!! We shouldn't give up on Doctors Because there's alot of things that can cause our imbalance. We need to get blood work done for hormones level, toxins level, estrogen & progesterone level, white blood and red blood count which help fight off infection. But most of all pap smear i know some of us probably did that three thousand times but just do it again. Tell your doctor to check your ph level and make sure you set a appointment so when you go see the doctor they won't treat you like crap because your a walk in by setting your appointment is like demanding your time!! Once you get the result and something Is off the doctor will work with you from there.
I feel like boric acid and garlic is (temp) fix. What i need is a CURE?? Do anyone have HOT FLASHES? when i work or about to go out i get anxiety attack or something i don't know but i'm going get to the bottom of it and let everyone know how the results go which will be at the end of the month.
jlo
Hi everyone. I have been bv free since around the 4th of July. I know there have been sprinkles of remedies throughout this thread but one thing that hit home for me was Vitamin D deficiencies. I really think there might be something to this. I left for a nice vacation over the 4th, was out in the sun a lot, etc... and things seemed to remedy themselves. My bv also seems to be worst in the short days of winter. Vitamin D is encouraged as it helps reduce bacterial growth so it's a plus.

So... in a nut shell...Here is my daily schedule that I try to stick to and I have not have even one trace of bv since:

Vitamin D chewable 1-2 times per day
Purchased Femanol & take 1-2 times / day (supposed to take twice)
Vitamin C chewable 1-2 times per day
wash underwear in fragrant free detergent
Moved to glycerol soap only / no fragrances AT ALL down there
Went off birth control.
Aware of alcohol, sugar and caffeine impacts but have indulged quite a bit with no impact with the use of the other items above.
Yogurt / probiotic every day

I feel like my pH is perfect right now. I have had a lot more lubricity & sex life is back to normal. It is like a miracle. I know femanol is very expensive and not an option for everyone. But at least the other offerings are inexpensive & not a huge sacrifice. Please let me know if you have discovered improvements with Vitamin D.
jlo
Yes - yes - yes! I couldn't agree with you more. Since Vit D supplements, my BV has basically been non existent. Hopefully, more women can provide input.

QUOTE(Morphia @ Jun 27 2009, 01:24 AM) *
I came to this site two years ago with bv that would not cure even for a day. No matter what meds I used. No matter what I did. It never went away for a minute. I had a terrible group B infection that I got eliminated (excrutiating pain, I must say.) But the regular bv was always there. I was diagnosed with a pretty bad vitamin D deficiency a year ago. I thought it was the answer to my problems. My chronic fatigue, my bv. I did research and found no links whatsoever to bv and vitamin d deficiency...Until now. I get a medical news letter in my email and one day I was checking my mail and right there in front of my face was an email with the subject "Vitamin D deficiency linked to bacterial vaginosis." Ever since I've been supplementing with the prescription vitamin D and tanning my bv has gotten exponentially better. Its still there. But before, my bv was so bad and irritating I couldn't have sex. At all. Now I can have sex whenever I want to.

Vitamin D deficiency is so prevalent these days because of the skin cancer fear that is abounding in this country. Sun block inhibits vitamin d synthesis. Even an SPF as low as 15 hinders vitamin D production almost entirely. It is important that we get at least 10-15 minutes of sun exposure WITH OUT sun block to get adequate vitamin D. Exposure of arms, face and legs is sufficient. 10-15 minutes of unprotected sun exposure is safe. I could go on for days but I won't. I'm just going to tell you to google vitamin d and research it yourself. Not sure if anyone has posted this find yet, but here it is: http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/703577

Everyone go out and get your vitamin d levels checked. You need to know for sure that your level is low because vitamin d is nothing to play around with.

But as I said, vitamin d deficiency is running so rampant in this country I wouldn't be at all surprised if its the cause of most of the women's bv issues on this board.

In this article it says that a level below the norm of 80 is associated with an increased risk of bv. So if your doc checks it, its below 80, and they say you're fine make them read this article.

help*me
Im glad that everybody's improving. Here's what i did recently..

i took 500mg flagyl for 5 days (twice a day)
also inserted 500mg flagyl - 5 nights then a day after....
i took 1 dose of ofloxacin and
1 dose of zithromax (i dont know if what i did is too much..i hope i did the right thing)

anyways, after 3 days , i tried using garlic suppositories for 8 nights (sometimes i insert it during day time to make sure i kill all and whatever bacteria i might still have while continuously drinking unsweetened yoghurt.

after that, i went to my gyne for a papsmear test, gramstain, transvaginal ultrasound, IE. So far, the results came out, my bv's gone. discharge is gone. I have been bv free now for almost 3 weeks. I also had sex with my bf, still couldnt smell a thing.I dont know why and how it happened, but i surely can feel the improvement from the previous years i've suffered. And I really thank God for this forum coz i got the chance to research for my bv's cure. Thank's alot guys.. and i hope everyone will be well soon. TC!
virgin4life
Has anyone tried the rephresh pro-b??

I no all other rephresh products are a no-no but i haven't heard of anyone trying this yet!

Thanks everyone!
neverending
QUOTE(mfc10 @ Jul 20 2009, 11:45 AM) *
This sounds like the right stuff. Yes, it IS poisonous, so don't ever take it orally or place in an open wound. I used it vaginally (in a capsule made up by a compounding pharmacy) for 2 weeks in a row, then every other night for another couple weeks, then just once/week (for maintenance) for a month or two. It will also effect good bacteria as well as bad, so be sure to take something like FemDophilus during that time and after treatment stops. If you look up Fem Dophilus on this site or on the Net, you'll find out a lot of good info on it. I still take one per day to maintain...no BV or yeast for three years now.

Hugs,
Maggie


Gosh, I used Boric acid everyday for months and it did nothing for me. I think it wipes out both the bad and the good vaginal bacteria so it's best in my opinion to supplement with probiotics but that didn't work for me either but it's not to say it wouldn't work for someone else. BORIC IS POISONOUS SO BE VERY CAREFUL! One other member here had rashes and such so I'LL SAY IT AGAIN, BE CAREFUL! Most members here have chronic vaginitis and have to use something everyday. sucks but that's what we have to do. I'm glad you are here mfc10. Glad to see you still helping the girls. Ladies: EVERY vagina is different. What works for one may not work for another. Take a look at lori's blog. that should help you guys a lot. Lots of helpful and useful information.
neverending
QUOTE(horror_movie @ Aug 8 2009, 09:59 PM) *
Hey Everybody
This Bv thing is very frustrating and I'm currently dealing with stupid bad bacteria that causing me to smell like fish everyday!! We shouldn't give up on Doctors Because there's alot of things that can cause our imbalance. We need to get blood work done for hormones level, toxins level, estrogen & progesterone level, white blood and red blood count which help fight off infection. But most of all pap smear i know some of us probably did that three thousand times but just do it again. Tell your doctor to check your ph level and make sure you set a appointment so when you go see the doctor they won't treat you like crap because your a walk in by setting your appointment is like demanding your time!! Once you get the result and something Is off the doctor will work with you from there.
I feel like boric acid and garlic is (temp) fix. What i need is a CURE?? Do anyone have HOT FLASHES? when i work or about to go out i get anxiety attack or something i don't know but i'm going get to the bottom of it and let everyone know how the results go which will be at the end of the month.


Smelling like fish sucks. I've also had the Ammonia smell. One time I had a supervisor of mine ask me to not clean my house with Ammonia before i came in to work because the smell was loud. I never knew anything about Ammonia until people kept telling me I smelt like it, so one day I bought a bottle and when I opened it I was like WOW. LOL......I could not believe I smelled like that. Sucks! LOL
Sweaty in Social Studies
QUOTE(neverending @ Aug 16 2009, 06:43 PM) *
Gosh, I used Boric acid everyday for months and it did nothing for me. I think it wipes out both the bad and the good vaginal bacteria so it's best in my opinion to supplement with probiotics but that didn't work for me either but it's not to say it wouldn't work for someone else. BORIC IS POISONOUS SO BE VERY CAREFUL! One other member here had rashes and such so I'LL SAY IT AGAIN, BE CAREFUL! Most members here have chronic vaginitis and have to use something everyday. sucks but that's what we have to do. I'm glad you are here mfc10. Glad to see you still helping the girls. Ladies: EVERY vagina is different. What works for one may not work for another. Take a look at lori's blog. that should help you guys a lot. Lots of helpful and useful information.


Oh yeah, about boric acid: During a recent doctor visit I had, I asked my general practitioner if the boric acid you can buy at a store, is the same as the boric acid that is made by a pharmacist, and she said "yes." Then she said, store bought boric acid isn't formulated for vaginal use. I'm not sure if she meant something about the capsules, or the amount of boric acid that goes into the capsule ... or both.
wanabfresh
QUOTE(Sweaty in Social Studies @ Aug 19 2009, 10:23 AM) *
Oh yeah, about boric acid: During a recent doctor visit I had, I asked my general practitioner if the boric acid you can buy at a store, is the same as the boric acid that is made by a pharmacist, and she said "yes." Then she said, store bought boric acid isn't formulated for vaginal use. I'm not sure if she meant something about the capsules, or the amount of boric acid that goes into the capsule ... or both.



Hey guys havent been on in a while but just thought id share some info about me an my bv. Ive had it off an on for 7 yrs now an havent feel this clean an fresh in years. I recently had a tooth pulled in May an was given amoxiclin to prevent infection. I later had an doctor appointment that same week which i asked my doc for flagyl an took them 2 together, an been feeln fine ever since. My doc is cool, i can get flagyl anytime i want, but ladies ur body does become immune to this flagyl, cause at 1 point of time i was takn it on a regular an it had stopped workn for me, but anyway my doc also advised me to stop takn baths which ive done also an ive been bv free ever since May so.............

Ladies try an stop takn baths for a while because i havent took a bath since may i no we love to bathe but its not good for ur vag. I also sleep without underwear evry night besides my period nights. Another thing i do i no it sound gross but after showering, i stick my finger up there an get all the excess discharge out of there. I got that from a post here. Also go out an get some ph paper an u can test ur on ph that helps also. good luck guys


martoocha
QUOTE(virgin4life @ Aug 15 2009, 10:22 AM) *
Has anyone tried the rephresh pro-b??

I no all other rephresh products are a no-no but i haven't heard of anyone trying this yet!

Thanks everyone!


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Hello BV thread!
Hello virgin4life!
I have recently tried rephresh (gel) since I thought I had a BV, and I thought it worked great, however ultimately it didn't get rid of the foul 'fishy'odor 100%. It was better though than before I used the gel. It was very easy to apply (or insert) and everything on the 'FAQs' page on the website is true. I had very little discharge and applied the gel at several different times in a day (once at night, once right before hitting the shower). But after using rephresh twice (4 applications each time) + getting several pap tests done and going to 2 ob/gyn's to get looked at, I still had no real answer as to why I had this now slight odor that really only comes out after sex. According to the last ob/gyn I saw, I do not have BV. He did bring up the fact that like everything in our lives that affects us, physically & emotionally, sometimes it can affect the bacteria levels (good + bad) in us and perhaps the recent weight gain I've had could be the reason why? Has anyone else been told the the same or along the lines of what my ob/gyn said to me recently?

I would highly recommend rephresh though. I encountered no side effects and had a good experience with it. If you do some research on it, you'll find out it actually started out as a lube for women and then come to find out it helped balance out the ph balance in women. Interesting!

The one piece of advice my ob/gyn suggested was boric acid capsules, which I already use and make on my own. He said its very safe and he'd have no problem whatsoever if I used the capsules every day! I did read someone's post saying that the boric acid caps didn't work for t hem, and I agree, its perhaps not the 'cure-all' for everyone. Trust me, I wish I could find a cure-all for us all!

Right now, I've decided to use the boric acid capsules and more specifically around the time of my period, since I've noticed this is when the foul odor comes out even more so.

Good luck ladies and keep up the good work in sharing your experiences with this.

take care,
martoocha
Susie skinky pants
BV for over 10 years... ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ok..what I cant undersand is..the foul smelling discharge..when I am at work it is so bad that the whole front office smells this everday..I am so scared I going to get fired..I have tried everthing..you name itI tried it...But why is it so foul..sometimes fishy but foul..and the worse thing is everyone know its you..man sometimes I wish I could just kill myself..its that bad..and the doctors..no help..and the meds.. do not work anymore..oh does anyone else have that problem..I tell the doctor that the meds dont work anymore and they look at you like something wrong with you..I really starting to think there right..I just want to live a normal life..that all..Help anyone!!
sea star
Hi ' Susie skinky pants'

Did you tryed the Pau 'D Arco tablets.A lot of women tryed the Pau 'D Arco tablets and they say that they have less discharge and no smell.I haven't tryed them yet.I have BV with odor for almost 10 years too.I smelled bad in high school and at work too,I know how you fell.

Also I want to ask the moderator something,why is it that I can replay to a message but I can't start a new message.

sea star



QUOTE(Susie skinky pants @ Aug 24 2009, 07:55 AM) *
BV for over 10 years... ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ok..what I cant undersand is..the foul smelling discharge..when I am at work it is so bad that the whole front office smells this everday..I am so scared I going to get fired..I have tried everthing..you name itI tried it...But why is it so foul..sometimes fishy but foul..and the worse thing is everyone know its you..man sometimes I wish I could just kill myself..its that bad..and the doctors..no help..and the meds.. do not work anymore..oh does anyone else have that problem..I tell the doctor that the meds dont work anymore and they look at you like something wrong with you..I really starting to think there right..I just want to live a normal life..that all..Help anyone!!

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