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neverending
Fatigue,fatigue,fatigue! That's all I've been feeling.I just started a detox so maybe that's it? Does anybody know if fatigue is consistent with the die-off of toxins/parasites?Oh, and everything is going well over this way(as far as bv is concerned).
Eralc Alegna
What kind of detox are you doing? if it's some kind of fast you might not be getting all the vitamins and minerals you need. Most fasts involve some kind of supplimentaton, right? You could try a raw food diet as a detox for a while. I picked up The Raw Food Detox Diet like 6 months ago or more and gave it a shot, but it's a little difficult to maintain in a fast paced, pre-packaged society such as ours. restaurants are pretty much outta the question. She has a section on how to eat raw in restaurants but I work in them and know better. Just a thought...
I am pretty much convinced now that this is a diet/lifestyle/hormone thing for me and maybe all of us. I think I have to improve my diet if not go all raw to at least see what happens. If it wasn't that I'm lacking fundimental nutrition needs or something then why didn't the HP in conjunction with probiotics work? theres no logical reason why it shouldn't. I makes the most sense of any treatment I've heard of.

I started b vitamin suppliments yesterday but they use magnesium sterate and aren't sublingual so I can't help but worry I'm waisting time and money. Lets hope something helps soon. I'm on tube 2 of metrogel and still nothing but I'm holding out hope that I can finish it and maintain with HP and maybe more probiotics along with the multitude of vitamins/suppliments I take every day and have a sex life again. God I want a sex life!
jewelscando
Ok guys, I'm using B-6 and Folic Acid, and the smell is gone. All I smell now is the vitamins.

Doesn't mean it's going to last, but who knows.

Also, a quick survey here. Smoker or Not? And if so, for how long, and when did you get B.V. compared to when you started smoking. Here's Mine:

38 yrs old (This Saturday!!)
Smoker
7 yrs
B.V. 3 yrs after smoking
pianogirl


Hello everyone,

I have no smell but I am still using the boric in combination with the vaginal probiotics along with flax seed oil. I am hoping what the holistic doctor prescribed will work.

25
do not smoke

BV came when I was on BC pills, about a year and a half ago.

It seems you girls are having luck with the folic acid. I will continue to use what the holistic doctor has instructed, but I will not go back to her. It was too expensive and she charged alot for the medicine.

I will continue to update all of you on my progress.

Thanks
neverending
Eralc Alegna:Thanks for the reply! It's getting a little better now that i'm taking a daily vitamin.Geez, who knew that detox's would take so much out of you!
deprime
Thanks for the heads up about the Folic Acid. I'll go and grab some today. I've done HP douches before with no success, but I'll try it again.

Thanksgiving was depressing -- whenever one of my relatives came up to me, they would hold their noses. I wanted to say, "I'm sorry, but I can't do anything about it!"

It's beyond BV for me now -- it started out with the white creamy discharge four years ago, but now (perhaps due to my treatment), it has evolved into something worse. Whenever I go to the gyno now, they rarely detect the BV clue cells, but I stink nonetheless.

Does anyone else smell like poo down there? I know its gross, but I sometimes smell like that (or other nasty things.)
pianogirl

Deprime, that is very sad. I do not have a poo smell I would imagine it is just as bad as the fishy sea smell. Have you tried the boric acid? Maybe you should try it to kill off the smell while you take the folic acid.

How long have you had BV?

I think doctors might say you do not have bv cells because they dont know what else to treat you with...try the vitamins and some boric acid.

Best of luck,

PG

QUOTE(pianogirl @ Nov 28 2006, 05:46 PM) *

Deprime, that is very sad. I do not have a poo smell I would imagine it is just as bad as the fishy sea smell. Have you tried the boric acid? Maybe you should try it to kill off the smell while you take the folic acid.

How long have you had BV?

I think doctors might say you do not have bv cells because they dont know what else to treat you with...try the vitamins and some boric acid.

Best of luck,

PG


Sorry I saw you posted for four years, do you remember when or how it started were you on BC pills?
deprime
I did try the boric acid (the Yeast Arrest suppositories). Keep in mind -- you name it, I've probably tried it. They made my smell different -- but still in a very disgusting way! Plus, inserting the boric acid suppositories gave me a huge rash on my behind. (I later researched this and discovered that I probably had boric acid poisoning -- not very serious, but unsightly.)

I've had BV for 4 consecutive years -- ever since I was 17.
Eralc Alegna
I smoked from 13/14 until february of last year (I'm 22). But I will occasional and rarely have a smoke. The BV first started when I was 17 and was intermittent until a year ago and since then it's been constant. I had an IUD put in around that time, but I love it and refuse to take it out. Plenty of women are rot free with IUDs so I refuse to lay the blame solely on that.

Again, any one else got the itchy cracked labia thing going on? Its almost as annoying as the other symptoms and I don't know what to do about it.

And those of us doing the B-vitamin/folic acid thing, anyone else got creepily neon green/yellow urine? It started like the day after I first took the vitamins. Not worried about it but curious
sassy
Bought some folic acid and hydrogen peroxide today. I'm going to try both while still using the boric about once a week. We'll see how it goes.

Oh, and I do not smoke and never have.
jewelscando
Poop smell here too. Except I call it Shit smell!! lol wink.gif Poop, just isn't graphic enough!! wink.gif Forget what I said the other day, It's not gone. Just wishfull thinking though. I'm going to stay on the Folic and B-6. And I think I'll go back on the Boric, every other day or so. My rash is gone, and I'm afraid it will come back. So, I'm scared to go back on the boric full blown.
klee
Okay - having a moderate freak out. I've been waiting and waiting for my period. Still nothing. Having cramps and swollen breasts but no period. It's going on a month and a half now. This would be B-A-D. Say a prayer for me!!
neverending
Klee:A month and a half is a long time to wait for a period.I think you need to take a pregnancy test.Anyway, I said a prayer for you.wink.gif
jewelscando
Did two Boric Last night. Will do the same tonight. The smell is DEFINATLEY gone today. It was real strong as the boric was coming out this morning, but it is completely gone this evening. I'm itching though again on my forehead and arms, but that may just be my mind messing with me.

Anyways, KLEE, go get a pregnancy test. Unless you normally are late with periods but definately, you need to find out.
redfawn
my gyno told me i had a bacterial infection when i went in about a month ago. i would get itchy as hell once in a while for a few days, mostly after my period or after screwing around. no smell, but thick white discharge a lot of times. well i took the flagyl for my however many days and have been fine for about two weeks. my boyfriend went down on me a few days ago and i started itching again like mad the next day. so now i'm swollen and tender because i keep rubbing to itch, and i have that thick white discharge every time i sit down to pee just drip drip drip. what can i do? should i go back to the doctor? it seems like it's just the exact same thing and the flagyl didn't cure anything. sad.gif

Eralc Alegna, those vitamins will definitely make your pee neon yellow. it happens to me every time i take them, too, no worries.

i get the itchy/cracked labia, too. ugh.
klee
I know this is off topic...but the test came back positive. Holy crap. It's full fledged freak out now.
sassy
Wow klee. I wish you luck in whatever decision you make. On another topic, if you keep the baby...you definately want to keep your BV closely monitored because I've read several message boards where women say that BV can cause preterm labor and sometimes even miscarriages. I hope this doesn't freak you out but I wanted to tell you that in case you didn't know. smile.gif
Eralc Alegna
Good luck Klee, hope everything works out for the best for you. Again I don't want you to freak out more but this makes a good segue into something I've been meaning to bring up...

Anyone been checked out for a group B strep infection? It's another strain of bacterial ever-present in the vag but causes problems if it overgrows. My doc told me last spring that I had group b strep infection and had a compunding pharmacy make penicillin suppositories. All the research i did online about it discusses pregnancy complications and mothers infecting children. I couldn't get anything on just nasty syptoms that wasn't somehow relating to pregnancy. Just a heads up to all that maybe this is what you could be dealing with, but you'd think the docs would pick it up on your cultures...
deprime
Klee -- best wishes.

Update: I've been taking 1200-1600 mcgs of folic acid per day, and the smell has remained the same. I've also been taking 1000mgs of fish oil (for those lovely omega 3 fatty acids), and still no letting up.

I'm doing a lot of "work from home", because I can't bear to be in the office with this smell! Usually, I "plug myself up" with a tampon for the entire day at work, but lately the smell has been seeping through. My coworkers will come in my office and their faces cringe in disgust. :'( I swear, this makes me want to die.

While on the topic, I think that this may have started as a result of me using feminine deodarant sprays in my teenage years. I don't know, though, but hopefully I can be cured some day.
klee
Thanks ladies. I'm taking the appropriate steps to do what's right for me. What a crazy turn of events...I have friends that are trying to get pregnant. Seems so unfair.
neverending
Good luck klee!
alwaysonmymind
Again, I only get BV when I have unprotected sex. So, I don't have unprotected sex! It's not worth..it...Only if I really fall in love with someone and I believe that they will understand. So I haven't tried this but I got it from another website group. It is a product called Acromona......


Hi guys I am still using the acromona and its been a miracle for me i wish you guys would try it, i wish i could send you all some but since its prescription medication i cant, however i wish there was some where it can be ordered, this thing works well!
jewelscando
Well, had birthday sex tonight, and no smell. None what so ever. Not even a hint. I did 2 days of 2 boric acid, and am taking 1 Folic Acid and 1 B-6 a night. Shit smell is even gone.
Eralc Alegna
QUOTE(alwaysonmymind @ Dec 1 2006, 08:18 PM) *

It is a product called Acromona......

Acromona is just another name for metronidazol. I googled it, heres the site i found

http://www.egeneralmedical.com/rxlist00000247.html

And check out what it says at the top of the page in the big f-ing box! Turns out metronidazol is a carcinogen in rats and mice!! Excellent! Would have been nice to know that when the doctors perscribed it for me oh, only about 30 different times. Seriously. I've probably taken that much. I'm never using this shit again! Man this makes me so angry... I've never been told this and I'm sure it's not in product inserts either cause I ALWAYS read those. Way to pull the wool over our eyes FDA!
klee
QUOTE(alwaysonmymind @ Dec 2 2006, 01:18 AM) *

Again, I only get BV when I have unprotected sex. So, I don't have unprotected sex! It's not worth..it...Only if I really fall in love with someone and I believe that they will understand.


What an interesting time to "reiterate" this alwaysonmymind. As I'm sure most of us do have protected sex for a myriad of reasons besides bv. Thanks for your input though, and if you need help patting yourself on the back, let me know.
jewelscando
Wait a minute here. I have to stand up for Alwaysonmymind. I don't think she meant anything by that. She was pointing out what happens to her. That wasn't fair, and I personally feel that was uncalled for. We are all in this together ladies. We all should feel free to discuss what works and doesn't work for us. This is how we find help for each other. We are on your side Klee...hence the number of good lucks you've had. Anyways, just expressing my opinion. Doesn't make it right, doesn't make it wrong, just an opinion.
klee
Maybe I read that incorrectly - it's seems like it could be taken different ways. Perhaps bad timing? And you guys have been very supportive, thank you. I've unfortunately have had some rather uncomfortable conversations with friends that have been very difficult to deal with. So, I've been rather sensitive recently since I wasn't expecting so much antogonizing from my best friends.

Sorry if I jumped all over you alwaysonmymind.
Eralc Alegna
Don't worry about it Klee, It's completely understandable if you're a bit defensive or on edge. Just don't alienate those that are trying to support you vs. those that are criticizing you. It's a bad situation you're in all around. We're all just trying to soften the blow.
fedup
Hey guys- I havent been on in a while. Been working alot of hours. Anyway, I tried the boric and it didnt work. I only gave it a week though, which isnt long enough. I've started again on it this week and will take it for as long as I have to this time. Does sex interfere with the treatment?

I will also be going to the doctor AGAIN this month. I have a new one this time. Lets see what she says. I want to be tested for every STD out there, even though I know I dont have one, just want to cover all my bases. I've also been online trying to find a doctor who has successfully treated this, but no luck.
neverending
Update:
I stopped using the Estroil and it seems as though the Bv is trying to come back.I know mine is a hormonal imbalance and I was wondering if you guys felt maybe I should try a prescribed estrogen because I was thinking maybe the plant form of estrogen is not strong enough? Any suggestions?
jewelscando
Neverending. Make an appt and talk with your Doctor. I'm 38, and when I asked my doctor this, she said mine was not hormone related. But, if you are sure your's is, I would get it checked. I don't know how they check that, cause my doctor said it's hard to test. But yeah, definately, do what works for you!!
Eralc Alegna
So I kinda have to eat my words, turns out the cancer in rats thing is in the metrogel insert. Must of missed that one... wink.gif But either way WTF!? it's still scary weird and they list the success rate at between 50-60% mad.gif

fedup - sex is dicouraged during all forms of treatment i think. I was always told that I couldn't have ANYTHING in the vag during treatment periods. I guess my last doc took pity on me when he said I could use tampons and have sex when he perscribed the 6 week thing. So i guess it's up to you. If you can hold out it can't hurt, might help.

Neverending - isn't the hormone thing supposed to take a long time to work? or maybe I'm thinking probiotics... eitherway I agree with jewels. when it come to hormones I'd rely on the doc for advice.

Speaking of probiotics, I want to use them again when the metrogel is gone (like 2 days). How many of you have problems with probiotics making symptoms worse? A few have mentioned it but it still just doesn't make sense to me
alwaysonmymind
I apologize If I offended anybody. I really didn't mean it like that. I was just trying to explain "my" situation and why I have not tried the product. I totally understand how all of us feel on this thread. It's horrible and really does have an effect on our lives. I wish us all the best and hopefully we can all find a cure:)
mesquitetree
Ladies! I came across this Lounge when my bv acted up again two weeks ago, desperately searching for answers. Thank you, you were helpful and it was great to know I wasn't alone.

What's working right now for me: I think the folic acid. I've been taking it for probably a week now and my bv seems gone. And of course, since I never try new routine in a controlled sort of way to exactly pinpoint what works, I am also eating more yogurt and did a few yogurt inserts, so it could be a combination. But I've done yogurt before and the folic acid is new.

Also for those who mention smoking, I have found that smoking totally affect my bv. When I quit for a few months earlier this year, it was so much better (but not gone). Now I smoke on occasion with smoking friendly, and whenever I do, I can smell it, and not just smoke in my hair. Someone mentioned coffee too which I am comtemplating cutting down on.

Good luck everyone. I'll keep you posted if there are any changes.


pianogirl
QUOTE(mesquitetree @ Dec 4 2006, 10:16 AM) *

Ladies! I came across this Lounge when my bv acted up again two weeks ago, desperately searching for answers. Thank you, you were helpful and it was great to know I wasn't alone.

What's working right now for me: I think the folic acid. I've been taking it for probably a week now and my bv seems gone. And of course, since I never try new routine in a controlled sort of way to exactly pinpoint what works, I am also eating more yogurt and did a few yogurt inserts, so it could be a combination. But I've done yogurt before and the folic acid is new.

Also for those who mention smoking, I have found that smoking totally affect my bv. When I quit for a few months earlier this year, it was so much better (but not gone). Now I smoke on occasion with smoking friendly, and whenever I do, I can smell it, and not just smoke in my hair. Someone mentioned coffee too which I am comtemplating cutting down on.

Good luck everyone. I'll keep you posted if there are any changes.



Could you ladies tell me how do you take the folic acid? How many per day etc?
sassy
I've been taking the folic acid for about a week and I hadn't noticed any differences until this morning. My smell was definately getting a lot less noticeable and my discharge is white and sticky instead of my usual yellow, thin discharge I have with BV. I hope this means that the folic acid is going to continue to work!! I just take one folic acid pill a day when I eat breakfast. It said on my bottle to take it with food. I bought it at Walmart for less than $3.
neverending
I have a doc's appt Tuesday.I'm going to tell him that I can't deal with this trying to come back.I'm about to lose it! There are sooooo many things I want to do and this keeps me from doing them.G-d please HELP!
sassy
The smell is almost gone now...barely there. I haven't had any discharge all day so apparently the folic acid has started to kick in after only using it for one week. I'm so excited! I hope things stay this way. Wouldn't it be really stupid if all this BV nonsense was caused by something as fixable as a deficiency of folic acid in our bodies? I know some of you have tried it without any help but it obviously has something to do with this because it's helped several girls on here. I don't really understand it myself. I'm still going to use the boric acid after sex for a little while to hopefully keep things okay. I'm being hopeful, though.
Eralc Alegna
Pianogirl - I take two pills to get my folic, one thats just 400mcg I got to suppliment the B-complex vitamin I also take since it only has 400 mcg and someone was saying to take 800 mcg a day. The second pill also has a varitety of b-vitamins plus C and A or E or something.

I finished all my metrogel and I bought some kiefer at whole foods the other day to hopefully counteract the antibiotics. I'm thinking I should also use a vaginal probiotic too (?). It's been about a week on the folic but I got my period on sunday so we'll see how this all plays out in the end. I hope the folic works as well for me as it has for so many others. fingers crossed!

I'm happy for you sassy, hope it keeps up. The boric after sex sounds like a good idea, i've been trying to think of a good way to maintain once i get rid of this...
pianogirl
Thank you so much for all the information.

Right now I am still doing what my holistic doctor recommended and dont have any smell. However I just gotr off the boric and am now just doing the vaginal probiotic suppositories in addition to some hormone pills and flax oil. I am hoping that this works, I will give myself a week if all fails i will do the folic...you girls are amazing and smart. Thank you for all your help and advice...hopefully we will soon all be back to normal and can advise other sufferers on treatment alternatives for this horrible, sad issue.

sassy
I take one 800mcg of folic acid in the morning. Yes, the boric acid is nice but it doesn't work forever, at least not for me, and its kind of annoying to do all the time because it gives a really bad water-like discharge as it cleans things out. It might work for matinence, though. I think we're on to something here with the supplements. I mean, how could taking folic acid for a week clear up BV? It doesn't make sense to me...why wouldn't the doctors not know if BV was linked to a lack of a certain vitamin in your body? Anyone have any ideas as to why it helps?
pianogirl


The only I could find was this...It discusses cervical dyplasia and how folic acid and vitamin B can help it. I was diagnosed withcervical dyplasia after I go off BC pills, however I do not believe that everyone here has cervical dyplasia..



http://www.thenutritionreporter.com/womans...lth_primer.html
Eralc Alegna
Pianogirl, what was the vaginal probiotic the holistic doctor perscribed for you? Where iis it available?
pianogirl



I actually brought them from her office, but I found them online:


http://www.rockwellnutrition.com/view_category.asp?cat=53

Also she charged me $30 for a bottle of 60.

pianogirl
Well I have been off the boric for about 5 days and just inserting the vaginal probiotic 2 x a day as recommended but a faint smell has returned. I think this "holistic doctor" was a load of crap....I am so disappointed with this....any way I am going to start the folic acid since I hear it is working pretty good.

I just wanted to share this and I went to a holistic doctor and spent close to $300 on crap.....they are just like our gyns, they know s%&t..

I think they like to ask alot of questions, like what do you eat etc so they blame it on something b/c they dont know themselves...
mad.gif
Thanks

PS I have not been having sex..
jewelscando
Sorry to hear about that Piano Girl. I don't want to say that Folic Acid is working as of yet. The Boric Acid is really the only thing that works. I do the Boric twice a week with Folic and B-6 everyday. I had sex two nights ago and I didn't smell a thing, however, he said he did but very faintly. (I THINK HE WAS SMELLING HIS OWN ASS!!) wink.gif
i_hate_sports
Hey girls. My doctor said I was BV free. But I am awaiting its return. I have started taking folic acid and B 12. Is it the B6 that I am supposed to be taking?

Yea for those of you who are getting a handle on it!

Has anyone tried the Vagisil Screening Kit? I keep seeing ads for it and it’s a screening kit you can use at home to determine if you have a yeast infection, BV or something else. I have been to about 10 different stores looking for it. The last commercial I saw gave the web site www.vagisilkit.com On the site it says it’s in limited release in a few cities including Jacksonville, FL which I am near. I am going to go to Jax tomorrow and look for it. Just wondering if anyone else has tried it and how it was. If I get my hands on one, I will report back my findings.

I am so annoyed with my doctor. I don't think he gives a crap about BV and he thinks I am a weirdo for still having a problem with it.

If I get any hint that it is on its way back I am going to do the Peroxide douche. I have never done a douche before and would really appreciate if someone would tell me *exactly* how to do it.

Also, what is not good about a multivitamin?

Thanks in advance,
Sara
D double U
Hey Ladies,
Haven't been on in a while. School has consumed my life. Anyways, Can anyone let me in on wut the deal is with the folic acid?
sassy
The folic acid is working for me. I used to have so much discharge that I would change my panty liner twice during the day and now I don't even have to wear one. I'm not sure why it works, but I'm very happy about it!
pianogirl
QUOTE(jewelscando @ Dec 8 2006, 10:21 PM) *

Sorry to hear about that Piano Girl. I don't want to say that Folic Acid is working as of yet. The Boric Acid is really the only thing that works. I do the Boric twice a week with Folic and B-6 everyday. I had sex two nights ago and I didn't smell a thing, however, he said he did but very faintly. (I THINK HE WAS SMELLING HIS OWN ASS!!) wink.gif



LOL hahahahahha! Don't you just hate when men do that?! Anyway as I suspected the smell was there, my BF and I had sex.sad.gif I will never go to a holistic doctor for this again, it is a pure waste of money..I started taking the folic acid on friday (extra strength 800 mg) however I am still using the boric because I am worried at work and when I at school at night that someone will notice....thanks to whomever reseached the boric because at least it is a temporary fix I will start doing the boric every other day and continue to limit myself to see if the folic acid works.....

Thanks again Ladies..

PG

QUOTE(D double U @ Dec 10 2006, 02:15 AM) *

Hey Ladies,
Haven't been on in a while. School has consumed my life. Anyways, Can anyone let me in on wut the deal is with the folic acid?



One of the ladies on this board recommeded this...perhaps recurring BV is a vitamin deficency.....also some of these ladies including myself started to get BV when on BC pils and BC pills might actually strip away that vitamin....I guess you know how doctors recommend pregnant women take folic acid, perhaps when on BC pills we lost alot of it...or if you werent on BC pills it could just be something random that happened, in any event for some its working...I just started on friday with an extra strength Foic Acid Pill ( vitamin cool.gif 800 mg once daily....I believe some other ladies are also taking other vitamin B substances.....Anyway DDU you can try it as a bottle of Folic acid can be found anywhere and its fairly cheap.

Good Luck!

PG


PS Also the other lady whom used to post here alot "chachaheels" or something recommened that we visit holistic doctors and I did and spent almost $300..I would suggest that niether of you waste your money or your time...

Here is the link of the place I went to:

http://gawain.membrane.com/naturopathic_medicine/index.html
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