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angie_21
Ladycup came in the mail today! It was 4 weeks delivery time from ebay, with no shipping fees or customs charges. It did end up with a nice little tag on it for customs that said "Sanitary Product," which was embarrassing because our building manager always takes the packages from canada post if we aren't in and brings them to us. So now he knows that I had a package delivered with lots of strange foreign words all over it, and "sanitary product" tagged over top of it all.

My boyfriend also got to watch me open it and was pretty stunned to find out that they make these things. Even if it doesn't work out, it was worth it just to see his reaction. And now I don't have to fear leaving it out in the bathroom in case he sees it. I won't get to test it out for another week, unfortunately. lol.
freckleface7
I bought a DivaCup at my wonderful health food store today hurrah!!
this may be the first period ever I'm looking forward to!
freckleface7
drat double post- sorry!
lilacwine13
QUOTE
My boyfriend also got to watch me open it and was pretty stunned to find out that they make these things. Even if it doesn't work out, it was worth it just to see his reaction.


When I was going with AZ Guy he found mine in the medicine cabinet and came out with it over one nipple pretending to be Madonna.

He put it back very quickly when I told him what I used it for... laugh.gif
lanyo
i just ordered my diva cup! pretty excited. i used instead when they first were widely available. i liked them for light days, but heavy days, once they leaked it was pretty horrific. i've just always been hesitant due to the initial cost. i wish there was a store around where i could see it in person. or even if i knew someone who had one so i could better imagine it for me. i hate shopping for unknown items online, i'm a hands-on shopper.

i just loathe paying for stuff i'm gonna throw away.... i'm a huge coupon-fan, but only for tampons and pads. fyi, you can sign up for any favorite brands on their websites and they send you samples and coupons, saves a bit of money considering how much we throw away on this!!
jsmith
I'm normally leery of buying unknown things online, too, but as soon as I learned that these things existed (a girl mentioned them in her blog), I was like OMFGgottahaveonerightnow.
Mermeg
Thanks for the encouragement everyone. I'm definitely going to try it again. I just get squeamish for no reason. I remember the first few times I tried using a tampon when I was between 11 and 14. I ended up in tears each time and finally gave up until a few years later when I lost my virginity, then it was suddenly fine. So I'm sure one day I'll look back at myself now and laugh a bit too smile.gif

I wrote a paper once in undergrad about menstruation and the myth/rites/etc associated with it. I remember talking to people who used cups and saved the blood to use in things like paintings and other art forms. While I don't really see myself doing that I do think there's something inherently awesome and feminist about not just "plugging" oneself up...just my 2 cents.
auralpoison
I just want to say, give it time. I've been rockin' the plug/pad alt for more than ten years. It took me a good six cycles before I really had it down to an art. By cycle three I pretty much had it, but still occasionally looked like a murderer on my way out of a stall in a public jane. Even then I was only mildly embarrassed because, hey, bloody uterus lining comes out of your snatches, too, bitches. Perservere, it will work for you & save you money!
freckleface7
QUOTE(Mermeg @ Apr 2 2009, 12:27 AM) *
Thanks for the encouragement everyone. I'm definitely going to try it again. I just get squeamish for no reason. I remember the first few times I tried using a tampon when I was between 11 and 14. I ended up in tears each time and finally gave up until a few years later when I lost my virginity, then it was suddenly fine. So I'm sure one day I'll look back at myself now and laugh a bit too smile.gif

exactly the same thing mermeg; I was so frustrated trying to get them in!
good luck w/ trying the cup again, patience is a virture. (says the woman who hasn't tried it yet:) )

I am wondering if the Divacup won't be better/more comfortable for me over all bc w/ the tampon's I've used (mostly ob's) are sometimes wickedly uncomfortable & I end up wasting them.
I have finally guessed it has something to do w/ my tipped uterus?
has anyone else similar experienced this?

also, I'm curious as to the cost of the Divacup where all of you are.
I payed $35.99 US Dollars (about $42** w/tax) for mine.
the mr was a bit put off by the cost til I explained to him that it will pay for itself over & over after the 2nd or 3rd month. in retrospect of the convo w/ him - what right does he have for any input on it anyway? he doesn't have a uterus!
jsmith
If anyone wanders in and wants to try the Diva, go to this site and enter coupon code KIN087 at checkout (if this is your first order). Total cost with shipping to the US should be $21.43, if everything still is as it was a few days ago.
ketto
I paid $40 online about 5.5 years ago, but university sold them first for $25 then $35. Usually at stores here it's between $30-40.
freckleface7
wish I had known about that a few days ago, but I really like supporting my small local store anyway.
I also bought the Diva Wash as well - thanks for reminding me of that jsmith smile.gif

ironically enough? the bottom of the box it came in said it's made in Kitchner,ON Canda by Diva Internation - Health Canda Licence No. 37909.
prophecy_grrl
freckle mentioning the diva wash reminded me - does anyone know of any tricks to cleaning the cup? I sanitize in boiling water between periods and I've also tried the diva wash, but my cup is still - uh - stained. I suppose it shouldn't matter, but I would like it to be sparkely clean.
angie_21
Well, my period came 4 #%*@ days early, so I got to test out the ladycup a lot earlier than I thought. So far, I am pretty happy. It is much softer and squishier, which makes it really easy to get in. It's harder to check for a seal, but I've never really done that, I just kinda throw it up there, do some kegels to get it in place, and hope for the best. However, it is harder to get out for the same reason - it's so squishy, there's not much to grab on to. The base of the divacup had a kind of a solid part at the base that was perfect for gripping, the ladycup does not have this. Good thing I didn't cut the whole stem off! But because the ladycup is shorter, I can actually reach a whole finger up there to release the seal, so it's still, to me much easier to work with. It felt werid for the first few hours, but now I can't even feel it. It is a 10 on the comfort scale compared to divacup, however, given how it's a bit harder to get out, I don't know if it would be perfect for beginners...

I use divawash and boil it. I usually only fuss with it 2 or 3 times a day, so one of those times is always in the shower (no need to worry about mess!), which is the only time a day I actually wash it instead of just rinsing. Then boil at the end of cycle. It's safest and best for the material, according to the information packet.
quakererelf
QUOTE(prophecy_grrl @ Apr 3 2009, 05:56 PM) *
freckle mentioning the diva wash reminded me - does anyone know of any tricks to cleaning the cup? I sanitize in boiling water between periods and I've also tried the diva wash, but my cup is still - uh - stained. I suppose it shouldn't matter, but I would like it to be sparkely clean.



First post on this forum - hi guys! I have had good luck with rubbing alcohol just in terms of getting the stains out, but I only do it very rarely and randomly so I never get it totally pristine. I use a Q Tip to go over it.

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angie_21
Freckle - I have a tipped uterus too, and yeah, pretty much everything is uncomfortable at some point, but I find that the biggest factor is whether or not I get tensed up down there. As long as I am relaxed then it isn't a big deal. It does affect the divacup though - even though the cup is meant to be worn very low, that's pretty much impossible for me. No matter how I insert it, it immediately rides up about as high as it can go. I think it gets pushed up there by my pubic bone. It's kinda hard to describe... but when I read the pamphlet and it said the bottom of the cup should be near the vaginal opening, I was like, really? How? There's no room there for it there! I don't know at all how to describe it, or whether I am normal or not.

I hate tampons with a passion. I think that's pretty average though. Anything that dries the hell out of your sensitive coochie, then seems to kinda glue itself to your vaginal walls and has to be dragged out with a string, it's just not a good idea. I hate how they feel inside too, very solid and unnatural. Ick.

And yeah.. I could spend $40 at a time stocking up on pads and tampons, just to make sure I had every kind of coverage possible, so even if the diva cup doesn't work out for you, or you only use it half the time, it's worth a try.
jsmith
QUOTE(prophecy_grrl @ Apr 3 2009, 04:56 PM) *
freckle mentioning the diva wash reminded me - does anyone know of any tricks to cleaning the cup? I sanitize in boiling water between periods and I've also tried the diva wash, but my cup is still - uh - stained. I suppose it shouldn't matter, but I would like it to be sparkely clean.


If you don't mind using something like a coffee mug, here's what you can do -
Fill your cup with hydrogen peroxide, drop it into aforementioned coffee mug, fill the mug with water until the cup is completely covered. Then put the mug somewhere dark (like in the cabinet under your sink) because light screws with H2O2. Check on it from time to time, you'll see that that it's getting pristine again biggrin.gif
I've done this several times, and haven't noticed any ill affects on my cup.
jsmith
QUOTE(angie_21 @ Apr 4 2009, 12:59 PM) *
Freckle - I have a tipped uterus too, and yeah, pretty much everything is uncomfortable at some point, but I find that the biggest factor is whether or not I get tensed up down there. As long as I am relaxed then it isn't a big deal. It does affect the divacup though - even though the cup is meant to be worn very low, that's pretty much impossible for me. No matter how I insert it, it immediately rides up about as high as it can go. I think it gets pushed up there by my pubic bone. It's kinda hard to describe... but when I read the pamphlet and it said the bottom of the cup should be near the vaginal opening, I was like, really? How? There's no room there for it there! I don't know at all how to describe it, or whether I am normal or not.

I hate tampons with a passion. I think that's pretty average though. Anything that dries the hell out of your sensitive coochie, then seems to kinda glue itself to your vaginal walls and has to be dragged out with a string, it's just not a good idea. I hate how they feel inside too, very solid and unnatural. Ick.

And yeah.. I could spend $40 at a time stocking up on pads and tampons, just to make sure I had every kind of coverage possible, so even if the diva cup doesn't work out for you, or you only use it half the time, it's worth a try.


All of the vendors say that the cup should ride low, but I've noticed that for most women, it rides high. For me, even if I insert it low, it will get sucked up. This isn't a problem for me, but I think that the vendors should change their sites to reflect the fact that for many, it won't sit low, and there's nothing wrong with that.
Funny thing about tampons - they would always fall no matter how high I would put them in (and I could feel the damn things all-the-time). But the cup will move up even if I put it in low. Lol, nothing works as it's "supposed" to.
Mikayla
QUOTE(lanyo @ Apr 1 2009, 05:33 PM) *
i just ordered my diva cup! pretty excited. i used instead when they first were widely available. i liked them for light days, but heavy days, once they leaked it was pretty horrific. i've just always been hesitant due to the initial cost. i wish there was a store around where i could see it in person. or even if i knew someone who had one so i could better imagine it for me. i hate shopping for unknown items online, i'm a hands-on shopper.

i just loathe paying for stuff i'm gonna throw away.... i'm a huge coupon-fan, but only for tampons and pads. fyi, you can sign up for any favorite brands on their websites and they send you samples and coupons, saves a bit of money considering how much we throw away on this!!



Just wanted to let you know that you can purchase the Diva Cup in stores. They are in all Whole Food Stores and other health food stores. If you go to www.divacup.com and click on "store finder" it will tell you which store is closest to your area. Not sure about coupons and all of that, but I just picked up my diva cup today. Haven't tried it yet. A little scaried still ;o)
Mermeg
I got my Diva Cup at Whole Foods actually. It was on sale for $32 down from $39...I knew that's about what they were on the website so I figured it was a fair price. Though I have to say...financially there's not much benefit for me, at least not yet. I used to get the organic unbleached tampons from TJ's for 3.99 and the box would usually last me about 3-4 months, and I'd have 1 bag of pads which would also last for several months. I guess for me it's just more the environmental impact and the fact that I like the idea of the Diva Cup more than tampons. And yes eventually it will save me money (if I can figure it out and use it solely that is!)

Although, jsmith, I did check out that site you linked to (I was curious where such a great deal could be had) and I used your code and got some new deodorant and a couple lip glosses for $1 including shipping, so thanks!
jsmith
QUOTE(Mermeg @ Apr 7 2009, 01:17 PM) *
Although, jsmith, I did check out that site you linked to (I was curious where such a great deal could be had) and I used your code and got some new deodorant and a couple lip glosses for $1 including shipping, so thanks!


Oh, good deal! You're welcome (I'll have to look and see what else they have on that site now).
angie_21
1 box of pad and 1 of tampons gets you through 4 months?! blink.gif wow. I don't use tampons, and maybe they're more economical somehow, but I go thru a box of pads a month with average usage. When I'm being conservative and letting some of my underwear get stained, I can stretch a box over 1.5 months.

I decided to use the ladycup only on Day 1 since it's always my heaviest, and I want to let my girlie bits get used to the idea of using the cup again before trying out a whole cycle. It worked fine, no leakage, easy to make and break a seal, and very very comfortable. I would definitely reccommend it to anyone who is having trouble with the comfort level of the diva cup... as long as they have iron-strong fingers to remove the damn thing! The stem is much softer than with the diva cup, though, so I actually wish I hadn't trimmed it as much as I had. It's completely unnoticeable and helps a lot for removal.
Mermeg
QUOTE(angie_21 @ Apr 7 2009, 06:30 PM) *
1 box of pad and 1 of tampons gets you through 4 months?! blink.gif wow. I don't use tampons, and maybe they're more economical somehow, but I go thru a box of pads a month with average usage. When I'm being conservative and letting some of my underwear get stained, I can stretch a box over 1.5 months.


lol yeah I actually calculated it in my head before I posted it because it seemed weird. I forgot to mention that I also have a big box of "heavy flow" tampons that I use about 2 or 3 of each month, plus maybe 4 to 5 regular ones and 3 to 4 pads. I've had really short periods for the past year or so...like 2 to 3 days of actual bleeding surrounded by a wee bit of spotting on either end...I'm not on BC or anything so I don't know why it's like that but I'm not complaining wink.gif

I still get killer cramps though <----- HATE


and just to keep this post at least a bit on topic...I like all the tips on cleaning/caring for the Diva Cup...I'm so lazy about stuff like that but I think boiling it once a month sounds reasonable
freckleface7
diva cup day One (finally! 6 freakin' weeks late- hello onset to Peri-menopause hopefully?!) & so far so good.
not as easy as the instructions imply and have so far found the cup doesn't pop open automatically & rotating it (as per instructions) is damn hard too, so I'm doing an awful lot of fishing around up in there, but I'm hopeful that w/ practice it'll get easier.
and no discomfort.
yes I can feel it ever so slightly, but it's not in any way painful.
and tho this might be Tmi, I can pee w/out taking it out ! hurrah! I think we're off to a good start!
ketto
freckle, if you haven't already looked through the archives in here for advice, then you should have a look. I just found it was trial and error figuring out my technique. I found it very irritating and uncomfortable for the first 2-3 months and it slipped out and I could feel it, but then suddenly I just found the right way and I can;t feel it all now (5 years later).
LLL
Hi all,

I'm new to this discussion thread, and was poking around to see if I could find more on my question, forgive me if this is redundant! This is my first cycle using my new keeper. I'm psyched about the spirit of the menstrual cup, am really happy with the actual usefulness of it, and really want it to work out, but I echo xi_muoi's post regarding painful removal and I'm hoping I'm missing something key when it comes to a removal technique.

When I go to take out the keeper it is super difficult to get a good grip on it, then when I do the suction causes an unpleasant tugging sensation until I can break the seal, and then finally the coup de grace is when I go to remove it as it is passing the entrance to my vagina it is big enough to cause sharp tension/pain.

I'm a fairly petite build and am assuming maybe my setup is tight? Should I be concerned with suction damaging my uterus? Anyone else experienced this/figured out how to get around it?

I also wanted to throw out there that one of the reasons I went with the keeper over the diva cup was an assumption that natural gum rubber couldn't possibly be introducing any toxic man-made synthetic compounds into my body like silicone? Is this a valid concern?
jsmith
No, this is medical grade silicone. The only way I could see silicone introducing any toxins was if it was subject to a massive amount of heat which screwed with it's chemistry and made it "unstable." The only way that could happen was if you were boiling it, allowed all the water to evaporate, and allowed it to burn. I would be concerned about using the Keeper, because some women have developed a latex sensitivity while using it. Consistent exposure to something like that can actually induce sensitivity.
One thing you might try while removing the cup is to "refold" it as it's on it's way out. That will likely cause some spillage, but if that doesn't bother you, it's no problem. Or, you can try tipping it and taking out one side at a time. I've never tried that, so I can't attest to it.
I don't think the suction is enough to damage your uterus. It would have to generate a lot more suction than what it does to hurt you.
If you have pain while removing, do a kegel while pulling it out. Pulling in with your vag muscles while pulling out the cup eliminates that "I'm eviscerating myself!" feeling you might get due to the suction.
freckleface7
after my first cycle w/ the divacup, I gotta say I already like it Way more than tampons.
yes it takes some getting used to (insertion is easier than removal) but I assume w/ practice that will get easier.
each time I inserted it, I literally Forgot It Was There. I cannot say I was ever ever that way before, even when things were 'comfy.'
I also feel more confident w/ the cup, understanding (excuse the tmi) amounts & all & knowing how sealed it makes it.
over-all so far? at least an 8/10.
angie_21
LLL - the diva cup and others are surgical grade silicone. I think some people are wary because of the problems with silicone breast implants causing cancer, but they are very different things. Silicone implants had some liquid silicone and other things inside them that, if the implant leaked, were absorbed by the body and caused problems. The silicone in cups and most other products is solid so there is nothing like that to worry about.

I have many of the same discomforts as you, especially with it being very tight to remove - I posted about switching to the ladycup on this forum a few months ago, and it is more comfortable. It is important to try to break the seal before removing the cup - makes it much easier to drag the slippery bastard out, and it also prevents that suction feeling. You can just use a finger to push against the side of the cup to re-fold it a bit, then let go, and usually that's all it takes for the divacup/keeper. The ladycup is squishier so I actually have to reach all the way up to the rim with my finger and pull down on it to break the seal.
mumblestutter
last summer i did way too much reading on line. ladycup was a recent development at the time. reviews were really positive and everyone loved it. but it seemed totally ridiculous to me to order something like that on line from eastern europe. how different can they be right? everyone takes time to learn how to use the a cup because it's different, right? then i got my period and whole foods was 5 minutes away so i bought a diva cup.

i liked the diva cup more than tampons. that said, the stem was pokey, i could position it under my cervix, but it would would leak and slip. but i always have leakage issues with tampons so it wasn't a huge deal. a couple of months ago, i put my diva cup some place "really safe" and have yet to figure out where that was. after going through a couple of cycles with tampons, and weighing my options, i decided to buy the lady cup.

i got the orange one. it's a little odd, but surprising cheery. and i love it. it's the only thing i've ever used that doesn't leak. there've been a few times when i could feel the stem. but other than that i can't feel it. it's different to insert than the diva cup, but once you get a hang of it, it's easy.

just wanted to share. i think it's made my life easier. oh. and i ordered it really late on a friday. it arrived with in a week. the only english words on the package, as is mentioned somewhere down the thread, were "sanitary product". but i really don't think anyone would think anything of it. i think if i saw a package like that i would assume it was a translation error or *some* kind of health product. but not necessarily any kind of menstruation related product.

p.s. i'm being careful with breaking the seal, but so far, no IUD related complications smile.gif :crosses fingers:

my two cents.
lanyo
I got the divacup, and 2 cycles through I think it's pretty good. I can't get it to be not-leaky though. I really don't want to have to use liners, disposable or not. Is this just a part of getting used to it? Also, I found the easiest way to insert is kneeling. Good thing it only needs to be done first thing in the morning, in the privacy of my own bathroom or shower!
kittenb
lanyo - If you are only inserting it once a day, in the morning, it might be leaking b/c it is full or it shifted.

I use the Keeper Moon Cup (just like the Diva Cup) and I have never managed to have a leak free day, except when I am having a very light day. I always had leaks w/tampons too, though so maybe it is just my body.

I bought some more Luna Pads though and I couldn't be happier. I had been using the Luna Pad panty liners and, while I like the way they felt, I had some issues w/movement. So I overcompensated and bought the long liners. They are pretty big so I have been wearing looser skirts. However, they are so comfortable! I am happy that I bought them and I will save my Cup like my contacts, for special occasions and swimming. laugh.gif

Along with my long pads, I bought an Overnight. I love it. Yes, it is big, but it so soft and I don't feel like I might leak onto the bed sheets anymore. I want to buy a second one of them.
freckleface7
ok, this cycle I've had mondo trouble inserting the diva cup right.
I mean like- 6+ times & I end up all sweaty & stressed out.
I can insert it, but it fails to fill out & stays collapsed & I am unable to 'turn it' as instructed so I take it out & start alll over again & again.
I didn't have this much trouble when I first started using it. mad.gif
however, and I don't know if anyone else has gone through this, but I'm kind of thinking there may be a problem w/ my right ovary.. I'm kinda scared to call my Dr right now about it too, but I've had some teribly bad pains in it lately and even when it wasn't hurting, the Cup was painful once or twice so I'm thinking That may be the issue rather than the Cup?

after the removal of my iud & the discovery of the cervical tear, my Dr had wanted me to do an endometrial scrape but I said 'No f'in way' bc I was scared of how much it might hurt.
now I'm considerably more scared but w. my anxiety (which was somewhat triggered by the expereince of getting the iud inserted & how badly it hurt) I honestly think I'd have to be heavily sedated in order to get through it. hell to even get me into the hospital where the clinics are.

I think I'm also having mini-hot flashes occassionally too- so maybe it's peri-meno? I'm 38 1/2 -
that would be Smashing! I cannot WAIT for the end of these reproducing years!!

= end long post w/ apologies=
kittenb
freckleface - I don't know enough about the scar tissue and other health issues to post a suggestion other than I don't think that ovaries should hurt. Sometimes mine get tender when palpated while ovulating but that is about it. I respect your fear about the procedure but if it is needed, talk to your doc about sedation. It might be the key.

As for the Cup, when I called the Keeper people, they told me that the whole turning thing didn't work and they didn't recommend it anymore. rolleyes.gif I don't know why it is on the instructions w/that being the case.
CarrieBradshaw
i don't liek it
enfermera
i just got a new ladycup in the mail (lilac!), and it came with a coupon code for 15% off my next order. pm me and it's yours--it's only good once smile.gif
spot-on
Just wanted to chime in and say I've been using the ladycup for almost a year and LOVE it. Wouldn't go back to tampons now if you paid me!
enfermera
i had a diva cup for a while but i, uh, well, i was boiling it to sterilize it, and forgot about it, and it burned. yuck. the ladycup is softer and more flexible (and comes in cool colors!); i'm looking forward to trying it out. and to being much more careful with it!
enfermera
bump for archegonia
archegonia
thanks! the ladycup is sounding good. off to the internet...
archegonia
wow, ladycup sounds good from all of the reviews i've read.

it doesnt look like it has lines for measure on it, does it? that was one of my fave things about my divacup, i loved knowing if it was a half ounce or quarter. but its a small price for comfort i suppose...

enfermera
the ladycup does not have lines for measuring. and, because it's kind of squishier, it took me a while to get the hang of getting it out, but it's fine now. i can actually tug on the stem more than i could with the divacup without feeling like i'm going to suction my uterus out

i got mine from the ladycup website, and i still have the 15% discount code i mentioned below, if you're interested.
archegonia
HAHA! suction your uterus out! i know!!!!

i'd love that discount code, thanks so much.

<3
enfermera
ARGH! archegonia, i've been looking for it, and can't find it. i seriously kept it for months hoping someone would want it, but now i'm wondering if i tossed it in a fit of "minimizing." i'll look again, but...ich.
archegonia
lol, i just went from 333 friends on fb to 185 in a 'fit of minimizing'. feels good, if you cant find it, i'll know it was a casualty of purging. and i'm so cool with that.
spot-on
I got the ladycup about 18 months ago and LOVE mine! Def recommend!
nbdx0645
I bought a mooncup, and it's been inside me for 14 hours. I'm ready for it to come out, but it wants to become a permanent fixture inside my body. I've tried to pull down on the stem, grip the base and pull. I can't get a good grip on the stem. I tried inserting my finger right up to the top seal and tug it free. It unsticks, then resticks. I only cut off about half of the stem, and it felt like just enough to not rub against my inner folds.

When it comes out, I'm so tempted to just throw it in the goddamn trash bin. I had to leave work early because I started panicking. I really want it to work, but most importantly, IT NEEDS TO COME OUT. HELP.
ketto
I have a divacup, not moon cup but I always found their descriptions for removing them horrible. I know everyone has their own kind of style too so I think it just takes some figuring out to find which way works best for you. Personally, I cut off the whole stem and filed it down because it poked me no matter how small it was. The stem was never enough for me to pull it out anyway. I almost always change it at home or in a private bathroom so messiness hasn't been an issue. I basically grab the base, squeeze to break the suction (which can be bloody), and then yank it out and rinse.

Check back in the archives though because I'm sure this has been talked about before.
nbdx0645
While I'm relaxing, I went through the entire archive and copied most of the posts that talked about removal.

QUOTE
So I gave up for a while. But then I had a brainstorm, and tied a piece of narrow cloth ribbon VERY tightly to the stem. Voila. No more problems. Now I love it and it works just fine. The string lets me get it down to where I can reach the stem. I do boil it to keep the string situation from getting gross.

As far as pulling it out, it is uncomfortable for me to just yank it out. I have to push it out w/my muscles, pull a little w/my fingers and then fold it to pop the seal. Then it comes out easy.

yep, they do ride up a bit - I find it particularly happens when I'm sleeping. First just try to relax when you're going to take it out. Then, bear down with your PC muscles, and it should slip out a bit more...keep doing that, and don't get frustrated, it may take a few tries. If you need to, you can always squat in the tub to remove it, I know I did that a few times my first few cycles with the DC.
Also, I don't remove my DC *right* when I get out of bed in the morning...I'll pee, then walk the dog, and then come back in and empty it - by that time, the cup will have slid back down a bit from its nighttime position, and I can get it out a bit easier.

as per removal issues, the diva cup takes a lot of time (at least it did for me) to get used to. i think when i first got it i even cried to my partner to help me remove it! (hahahaha you can just imagine his reaction to that... we did end up getting out the flashlight. too funnY) anyhow- you have to get your fingers dirty, and push one side in (insert one finger on the side of it) to break the seal. you need to break the suction seal before pulling it out. when it is really full, it is easier to remove than when your period is light.

what I do is bear down until i feel the bottom sticking out. If it hasn't ridden up very far and the seal isn't uber-strong, i pinch the bottom while doing a kegel to break the suction. If that doesn't work/I feel the uterus-sucking action, I continue to bear down while sliding my finger up to break the seal (the back in most convenient for me, but whatever works. then I sort of just wrassle the thing out of there.

I stick a finger up there and just push the lip in a little so as not to squeeze the contents out. Then I just slide it out. Sometimes mine rides up deeper into me throughout the day and when I get home and go to remove it I have to sit there and relax for a few minutes to get it to come back down so my short stumpy fingers can reach it.
enfermera
with both the diva cup and the ladycup, i had that period of panic the first time i tried to get it out and couldn't. it's so important to RELAX, as you've seen. it helps to relax your mouth, jaw, lips, as these tend to somehow be connected to muscle tension in your bottom. with the ladycup, i sit on the toilet with my legs wide apart, or stand in the shower with one leg propped up. i pinch the bottom and tug it down until i get a decent grip, and then i kind of fold it as i'm pulling it down farther. sometimes i need to slide a finger in to collapse the side and break the suction. i remember wanting to just pitch it after that first struggle, but it really does get much easier after just a time or two. good luck!
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