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crinoline
On what strongirl was talking about about a guy's "expectations". I think there is some truth to the theory that a guy you attract with padded or fake breasts, may be expecting larger breasts. I think that if a guy is attracted to you as you are, he is much more likely to not only be accepting of small breasts, but to celebrate them.

I have a tendency to over-analyze people (which is why I'm a psych major), but I think that a guy's attitudes toward breasts may be shaped in part by his expectations of what is "feminine".
For example - My boy has always loved my small breasts and petite size. His mother is a gorgeous woman of Chinese heritage who has smaller breasts than I do, so his subconscious definition of what is "feminine" may have been shaped by that.
I'm not saying that this can be stretched to every guy, but it's an idea.

And I've never had a guy who was less than appreciative of my (32A) breasts. But then again, I wouldn't give the type of guy who is boob-obsessed the time of day.
strongirl
Let me just say how intelligent and interesting I find all of you! All these posts are so insightful.

Crinoline, your positive experiences sound similar to mine. (funny that I'm petite and of Chinese descent - you're not seeing my son, are you!?) I am not sure about the mom-size correlation, since my ex- loved my small tits and his brothers hooked up with very flat-chested supermodel types, but their mom had huge breasts. I always wondered if it was the opposite effect with that family. But maybe both upbringings could create an appreciation for small breasts - just as some people love the familiar and some want whatever's different.

As far as women lovers go, I've had a few and if anything they were slightly less interested in my breasts than men (maybe that was me in the other post) but not negative at all, just more into other stuff like kissing and oral sex.

I don't wish to be a voice for sluttiness or cheating but for those of you who have not experienced lovers who groove on your tits, maybe you should try to rack up (no pun intended) more experiences with more lovers! Believe me, they are out there and there is no shortage! And I'm too busy to take care of them all myself! wink.gif
Vendetta
Besides triangle bras and similar, which make me look like a boy under my clothes, I hate the feeling of an empty cup, not to say that I would have to cover myself a bit more so that no one could see my nipples when I move. And there are no AAA/AA bras around here, at all, so the contour ones I have been looking for all my life are a no chance for me and all those petite size sites don't ship to Portugal. So what's lacking in breast tissue, my bras have in padding so they can fit me. But still, sometimes my girlfriends or bf have to tell me, "I can see your nipple". So no chance in no padding lol

Ailurophile, I do feel better. My breasts don't make my day, but I think a bit less about them and that's why I'm better. And since I stopped worrying if bf likes them or not, and I guess I don't give a shit about it for almost 2 or 3 months, I'm feeling waay better. Cause sex stopped being a torture as it was for some time. I don't feel like a sex queen but at least I can have an orgasm lol But my bras still don't fit me and I still look like a boy in my tops and nothing bounces between my low-cut tops. So it's just me.
karategrrl
QUOTE(strongirl @ Oct 2 2008, 09:58 PM) *
Believe me, they are out there and there is no shortage! And I'm too busy to take care of them all myself! wink.gif


LOL!! laugh.gif

Vendetta, glad you are doing better! You sound better.

I once dated a guy whose mom and sister both had tremendous knockers. I once asked him why he'd be into me if he was used to that. He said he was kind of tired of it. (Side story: His sister and her fiance got one of those shirts made in the mall with their picture on it. The caption said, "What a Pair"--referring to she and he--but she was wearing a revealing bikini top in the photo, making her breasts the focal point. "What a Pair" took on a different meaning, to me, anyway. It was so hard not to laugh when I'd see it.
strongirl
This is slightly off-topic but since we've mentioned mothers-in-law with large breasts, I have to share this joke that was told to me by my ex's mom years ago. She's dead now but I really did love her a lot. But we had a constant battle over my skimpy/sexy way of dressing - she was very conservative. I knew we were getting to a better place with our conflict when she told me this joke, in her heavy Charleston accent:

A teenage girl was visiting her grandmother and they were getting ready to go out to dinner together but when the Grandma saw the skimpy top the girl was wearing she said "You can't go out wearing that!", to which the girl replied "Grandmother, it's my body and I can wear what I want!". So Grandma said "Wait a minute, I'll be right back" and disappeared into her bedroom. A few minutes later she came out wearing a top cut down to almost her belly button. The teenager said "Grandmother, you can't go out wearing that!". To which the grandmother replied "If you can show off your cute little rosebuds, there's no reason I can't display my hanging baskets!"

smile.gif Have a great weekend, everybody!
girltrouble
i love triangle bras. i find them waaaaaay sexier than underwires, or regular brawls (heh) and they are just so femme. i love even looking at them when i see them in magazines, or in photographs. it seems like they are stylishly retro, you know? they have this lovely air of sophistication, and when i think of women i think are sexily smart, like katherine hepburn, well, little boobs are just the best. i love playing peek-a-boo with them, even when it's just me looking in the mirror. i love covering my nipples with two fingers or covering them with my arm, cupping them, looking at them in profile. small boobies are the coolest. and triangle braws seem like they are out of the 20's or 30's like a camisole or a slip. there is something so sleek about them. but then, i rarely wear bras, unless i wear a bra with falsies. which i do every now and again, usually when i do a dj gig.

i'm not petite, i'm an amazon, 6' or 6' 1". i used to think because i was so tall, that small boobs weren't that feminine, but i think of them now as very feminine, i think of all those lanky models wearing those shirts cut down to their belly button, and i have a shirt or two like that. i love wearing them because i know i can get away with it, and it doesn't look sleazy, it looks super hot. and it feels so effortless.

it's kind of funny, but i love showing my little booblettes off as much as any big boobed girl, and to me it seems so much less contrived. i don't have to wear something to bear my cleavage, no push up bras, nothing low cut for the ladies to get attention. i could wear a slightly loose racer back cotton cami, something so...humble, so casual, so effortless, and i am always amazed at the attention that they get. or i can wear something body hugging, and bang!

its so funny i used to day dream about getting a boob job, and i occasionally do, but mostly now i feel like i'm getting away with something. like oh, you might not know it, but these little babies? they are sooo my secret weapon. i don't have to shout to get that attention, i'll just whisper. and why not? i've always appreciated the use of deft, subtle, moves that fly below the radar...

have a great day, small busties!
Vendetta
I looove triangle bras, I find them sexy, sophisticated and retro like you said. But don't get me wrong, you gotta have at least an A cup to look good in it. I've got one and sometimes I use it to sleep in summer and I love it to death, but are you picturing those 11 year old girls who wear bikini tops to cover-up-I-don't-know-what? At least an A cup to fill them out would be nice. I'm not petite either, I'm tall and generally slender, but my torso is very long and flat and my legs are short and bigger in thighs and bottom area. I love jeans with low waist, even though I know they only make my legs shorter and my torso bigger lol So I think a padded bra balances me out a bit. The padding creates the illusion of having more waist and hips and makes my clothes look better.
dj-bizmonkey
QUOTE(karategrrl @ Oct 2 2008, 03:31 PM) *
This came up once before here. Someone else did not have the same experience as I--that is, women were harsher with her than men and didn't accept her small breasts like men did. (I forget who it was, though.) I guess there are really no generalizations.


karategrrl- (thanks for the welcome back, btw) that was lux, a bustie who may be long gone but she was on here intermittently for awhile. she had a pretty critical gf as i recall.

while i've never had a female lover (though i hope to at least once before i die!) all gay/bi women that have been attracted to me loved my breasts, how small they were, the shape etc. whatever it is, lesbians always make me feel good about myself. maybe it is that sisterhood, mutual femininity thing.

on a side note, i just wanted to address the idea of wearing a padded bra as being 'dishonest.' while i think i may have said something to that effect before, i don't necessarily believe that is the best word to use. is a woman with bad skin dishonest if she wears make-up to cover it up? what about spanks or control-top panty-hose? what about hair dye? hell, you could take that logic to its natural conclusion and say that all the trappings of dress are in a way, dishonest. they are meant to enhance or conceal our bodies and make them appear more attractive than they are. i guess what i'm saying is, we should pick on or single out women who wear padded bras as being 'dishonest,' that women (or men) who use any other foreign, material means to enhance or change their appearance.

i was dinking around on netflix yesterday going through the 'watch instantly' section. i came across this AWFUL documentary called 'taboo: the beginning of erotic cinema.' the movie is terrible, i didn't watch the whole thing, but just the voice of the idiotic narrator was enough to make me turn it off. it's basically footage of porn from the 1920's-30's. i did watch some of it (on mute, mind you) and was struck by the wide variety of women featured and how beautiful and natural their bodies looked. it was like a renaissance painting come to life. i think in this age of high definition and re-touching we tend to forget what regular, attractive people look like. i also found this review striking:

"The more things change, the more things stay the same... or so we are supposed to think. The point of Taboo is to provide us with an overview of early porn (oh ok, e-r-o-t-i-c-a), and to show that folks in the early 20th century weren't that different from the folks living in the early 21st. We are supposed to be shocked and also not surprised that a few men with access to early film cameras turned to making sex films much like early internet entrepreneurs turned to porn to make a stash of cash off of the freaks. Point taken. What's interesting is the choice to contrast American efforts with those of the French. The French were much more daring and filmed actual sex acts, male nudity, and some heavy S&M action. The Americans were more Puritanical. They mostly stuck with burlesque, no men, no sex, and lots and lots of bare breasts. Apparently, Puritanism ran so deep in the US that even the pornographers were infected by it. And that's about the gist of the whole film. The narrator offers nothing profound, and at times he's annoying, but the entire film is nothing but clips of early porn flicks, so feel free to turn off the volume and imagine yourself in 1932 watching a silent adult film in the privacy of the neighborhood pervert's living room. If the subject matter of early pornography interests you, then check out the film Inserts with Richard Dreyfuss from the mid-70's. It's well made and quite entertaining."

maybe it's just me being over-analytical, but i thought it was interesting that in american pornography, bare breasts=sex, while in france, bare breasts were just part of the whole sex package. i think it speaks to the breast obsession that we have in the USA (that appears to be spreading now). breasts have become hypersexualized because they aren't as 'dirty' as other aspects of sexuality. we are fixated on the breasts because our puritan sub-conscious won't let us look at a vagina. you follow me? maybe it's a stretch.....

((((busties))))

i REALLY missed this place!
Aithinne
Hello there ladies... I'm new to this website and have loved the conversations here about small breasts. I haven't read through all the posts, so I hope you all will forgive me if mine is not on the current topic of the board. I also hope you'll forgive the length of my post, and appreciate those of you who take the time to read it.

I've been looking around the internet for months now, trying to find support for small-breasted women. I stumbled on this site and it has helped me tremendously, so I thank all you women who have posted here, because you all have helped me not to feel so sad and hopeless. I have so many emotions bottled for so many years, that it's finally come to the point where I have to talk to somebody or I'll explode. So here goes:

I'm 23 and petite, with 34Bs. I know some of you have smaller breasts than me, but I've always thought mine quite small. I've always been very introverted, and have difficulty making friends. I guess I don't have the personality where people naturally feel relaxed and comfortable around you. So I tend to keep to myself. Because of my introverted personality and the fact that my dad has always looked at emotions and emotional people as idiots without reason and rationality, I've never told anyone about my deepest feelings. And now since I recently graduated from college and feel lost in life, all of my bottled up feelings have come to the forefront and have become magnified. My feelings of being adrift in life have multiplied exponentially what I always thought of as a minor confidence problem. I've always had what I considered a small problem with feeling like I'll never succeed, that I don't have what it takes. Now because those feelings have grown out of control, I seem to be pulling all my other insecurities out of my closet and magifying those as well. I think feeling confident has always been a struggle and my small breasts have suddenly exploded into a real problem for me and I feel like I'm scrambling to build myself up again.

I remember back in middle and high school being excited that I would finally grow breasts and develop womanly curves. It didn't happen. I felt like I got short-changed, that God forgot about me in the middle of puberty. I felt like I was being punished. I remember in middle school I got asked out by a boy I liked and found out in front of an entire lunch table of his popular friends that it was a joke. I remember in high school watching all the girls getting boyfriends and I didn't. I didn't get my first boyfriend until after I graduated from high school, and I honestly think I only dated him because he was the only one that seemed to want me. I figured, I should date him because I don't know if it will ever happen again. After all, I'd been invisible to men my whole life. I didn't feel pretty, but I didn't feel ugly either. Just plain, not noticable either way. I actually remember one time in high school when I almost walked right into a popular guy because he opened the door for me and in my subconsious I didn't think that he would do that. I'm so used to being invisible and overlooked, that to this day, that door-opening experience reminds me how shocked I felt that a male would actually notice my existence and rush to open the door for me.

Naturally, it's human nature to want answers for the things that happen to us. I was always looking, trying to think of why I was always alone, why no one wanted me, and getting frustrated because I could not figure out for the life of me what was so wrong about me that I wasn't likeable to men. I would get confused and angry because I just didn't understand why I was overlooked so much. I actually don't normally obsess over my flaws, I actually usually don't think about it at all, I'm intelligent, I have a passion for science, I was always good in school, not a drama queen, very easy going and even tempered, and I've always been a reasonable person. And I honestly didn't think I was so unattractive that it would be impossible for a man to be attracted to me, so it really confused me when I had all these good qualities but nobody wanted to consider me in a romantic way. I think because of all my confusion over my invisibility, I latched on to my small breasts as the only scapegoat I could come up with. It was the only thing that I could see that might be a turn off for men, might be the reason they didn't want me.

We've all grown up with the societal view that small-breasts signal immaturity, pubescent femininity, not the sensual curves of womanhood. On the rational side, I know all this anxiety over my small breasts is stupid. I know that 60% of women have B-cups or less. I know that many small-breasted women have men that love them for who they are, and love their small breasts. But sometimes all the media and teasing and negative feedback from my teenage years still opens deep hurtful wounds. I wonder if anyone will be attracted to me, if anyone will love me. Would they cheat on me, and would I blame my breasts? I always worry that I wouldn't be able to keep a man, because you know their roaming eyes, and I'd wonder if he was shopping for someone better, prettier, more womanly and volumptuous. I worry that I would wonder if while with me, he would fantasize about how great it would be if I had curves. I worry that I would wonder if I turned him on, if my small breasts were a turn-off. I would wonder if he was just settling for my 'unfortunate lack of curves'. I feel sometimes like I would have to settle for a man because he would have to settle for the body I was given.

I've tried telling myself all the things that large-breasted women go through, the back pain, the talking to the chest, the labels. But it doesn't work. Sure, there are a lot of advantages to small breasts. I like sleeping on my stomach, I like hugging people close, I like not wearing a bra all the time, I like that they aren't saggy. But I still wish I looked more curvy. I feel like my body does not match the rest of me. I have the heart of a woman, the mind of a woman, the spirit of a woman, and i feel stuck sometimes in this unfeminine body. Other times I love my body and feel comfortable with it, and can't understand why it's not considered feminine by men and others. I understand that it would suck to constantly have people and men talking to your chest, and I imagine that large-breasted ladies might sometimes feel trapped in their bodies, like their bodies didn't match the women they are. But, in my mind, I dismiss this as a way to feel better about my small breasts because I figure, hey, at least they are noticed! After being invisible my whole life, being seen at all would be so nice.

I also HATE when people say "more than a mouthful/handful is a waste" and other such dismissive comments to try to make small-breasted women feel better. I don't want men to say this to me. I want them to say instead, "Small breasts are damn sexy, womanly, and feminine in their own right. They are beautiful and turn me on as much as larger breasts. I love small breasts on women!" THAT, my friends, would make me feel great if it came from a man's mouth. Not that stupid, more than a mouthful is wasteful crap. I wish we would hear some real compliments in response to small breasts, instead of those stupid evasive comments.

Also, if you have noticed recently, there seems to be this backlash against petite naturally thin women going on. I understand many women feel self-conscious about having curves and a little 'meat on their bones' and would write me off as an idiot for wishing I wasn't so thin. But I wish people would understand that every body type has their possible self-criticism. I've always grown up with the idea that men like women and women have curves, so I have always wished I could be like my curvy peers. Recently, I've been noticing that people have been saying things like "real women have curves", and people talking about how skinny is bad and unhealthy-looking and that men like women with something to grab on to. I don't have curves. I am healthy, but I happen to have a fast metabolism that keeps me shapeless. It just seems that recently people have been bashing women without curves in order to boost up those women who are self-conscious that they actually have them. This angers me because we shouldn't be bashing one body type to make another feel better. Why can't we all be beautiful? Tall, short, skinny, curvy, large breasts, small breasts. Why do we have to bring one down to build the other up?

Another gripe I have is clothing for small breasted women. Large-breasted women always seem to say that clothes fit better on us. They are WRONG. Clothes fit best on women with medium-sized breasts. Large-breasted women are always agonizing over how they are always popping out of their clothes, but small-breasted women constantly struggle when they cannot fill anything out. And I can't tell you how angry I used to get when I would go to buy a bra and they were either white, black, or nude colors. Nothing pretty, lacy, or racy for us smallies. Like we weren't feminine enough to have sexy clothing made for us. I always thought lingerie companies were telling us smallies that we weren't real women because we were small, that we weren't sexy so we didn't need the sexy underthings. It felt like they were patronizingly patting our backs from afar and telling us that when we develop into real women, then we can shop for real women's lingerie.

Ugh, I'm just in a slump right now, and appreciate anyone who read my post. I had to get that off my chest wink.gif It makes me feel better that there are ladies like you all who know how I feel, yet who have chosen to live life the best way they can, without going under the knife and bowing to pressure. When I come here and read comments from you ladies, I don't feel so isolated and alone. I don't feel so invisible. And I thank you for any comments you have to offer me, and any support as well.

Have a wonderful small boobie day, and LIVE SMALL! Haha, we should make yellow bracelets.

Hugs and love to you all,
Aithinne
auralpoison
Some pretty bras for Aithinne. I wish I could wear this stuff, so you'll have to wear it for me!
karategrrl
girltrouble, you write like a poet or erotica novelist. Amaazing!

DJ, about "false advertising," once again, your insight amazes me. Yep, you are right--wearing a contoured or padded bra is no different than wearing makeup.

Aithinnie, WOW. Thanks so much for sharing. And WELCOME! I'm about to leave work but have so much I could respond to in your post, so I will have to save it for another time. A lot of what you wrote could have come tumbling out of MY mouth, my dear.
Vendetta
hei Aithinne, I'm gonna have to re-read your post so that I can reply to it properly. But right now I think you should only focus on your emotional barriers, that seem to have grown with you and maybe a bit provided by your familiar environment and forget about the breast thing. Your breasts are not small, your breast size is the size millions of women are paying to get. Small is AAA/AA cup breasts and even A cup is big for me, but no matter what size they are, be sure that no men is "avoiding" you because of them. Men are not the pigs we tend to believe they are. Your "social issue" may rely on your own behaviour like your introverted side and your insecurity and people sense that. They do.

Have you tried on Intimissimi? They only work with B-cups. And you have all kind of lingerie in B-cups, you just gotta search for it. A-cup and less are the ones that are hard to find, at least around here. I've never seen a bra in my size. Push-up bras are too a chance for you since you have something to push up. Just open your mind cause your B cups are medium sized girl. Cheer up
crinoline
V- Lulalu ships to Portugal, scroll down to the bottom of that page and it's on the countries list. Lulalu specializes in petite bras, especially size AA-A.
I love this one .

Aithinne (hi! welcome to the board)- Are you saying that you can't find a pretty, lacy, racy bra in a size 34B? like this or this or this? They're everywhere, if you look for them.
I have smaller breasts than you (32A) and my boyfriend just says that they're "perfect". And from the amount of his attention/interest that they generate, I believe him. So some guys really do say things like that, and it isn't trite or contrived.
neurotic.nelly
QUOTE(dj-bizmonkey @ Oct 3 2008, 10:44 AM) *
maybe it's just me being over-analytical, but i thought it was interesting that in american pornography, bare breasts=sex, while in france, bare breasts were just part of the whole sex package. i think it speaks to the breast obsession that we have in the USA (that appears to be spreading now). breasts have become hypersexualized because they aren't as 'dirty' as other aspects of sexuality. we are fixated on the breasts because our puritan sub-conscious won't let us look at a vagina. you follow me? maybe it's a stretch.....

This theory rings true to me, remember all the hoopla over Janet's breast at the super bowl. The reactions definitely came from a puritanical place because there was nothing sexual about that "wardrobe malfunction". We can see ass cheeks all day in the media and no one bats an eyelash, nor should they, and neither should we about some breast tissue.

Again, I think that emphasis on breast tissue is cultural, and am grateful to come from a culture that sees sexuality or femininity as emanating from more than just the breast tissue.

I am not amazon height, but I am on the taller side at 5'8 & 3/4", I've got A cups (sometimes B's depending on the bra) and plenty of curves that fit nicely with my small bust. I think having good posture has always helped my sex appeal and confidence in myself. I stick my chest out in defiance of the overall attitudes about small breast. I don't wear certain things that flatten me out too heavily on top, and love having a hint of cleavage. And I've also been totally crushed out on girls that were A, AA, AAA cups.

Christine Nectarine
/delurks

wow, aithinne, definately a relatable post. i must lend my support to the side of the B-cup girls, in many cases this is still considered very small. i think sometimes it depends on your body type too. i realize there are girls who are smaller, but i think we can still relate.
i am a 30B which is very difficult to find a bra for in Canada. sometimes i love my small breasts, but there are times, esp being very aware that i am underweight, that i am extremely self concious of them. my breasts are quite far apart, and don't have the shape they used to after nursing a baby for 1.5 years, so there is no cleavage happening, and they dissapear quite easily under clothes. i think there are nice bras i can wear, but i resent having to pay through the teeth for them! i used to work at La Vie En Rose and i remember looking through the product catalogues. the amount of size discrimination (for us small and large) was unbelievable! most of the "standard" (read white, beige, black) wear bras were avaliable 34-38A, 34-38B, 34-38C, 34-40D, 36-40DD. many of the colorful, lacy, or interesting ones, were only avaliable in 3 or 4 sizes! it was stupid. and although we were taught to measure women properly, we were still expected to sell to whomever came in the store. any women who were "small" were encouraged toward a 34A, and i can't tell you how many women i saw cramming themselves into a DD, when they should have been an E, F, or G.

the only 32A we carried, was a water bra. i'm all for padding etc and playing around with your size, but it's like they figured we wouldn't want anything else. this mind set is twisted.

/end rant.
thanks for indulging me, that felt good. i enjoy reading your posts everyone.
Vendetta
thanks crinoliiiiiine!
starship
woah ive missed so much!
Haven't been able to read everything yet so I'll just make some random boob-related remarks that probably have no place in the current conversation.
I saw 'the Dutchess' recently, inc a fab topless keira scene. she really is my hero of the celeb world. im also loving ayness deyn at the moment. i started liking her due to her style and hair but then i saw these pics http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showb...icle1170446.ece which pretty much made my day:). i know the Sun is a terrible paper but i was also kind of impressed that there wasnt one remark about her size in the 'article'. Not sure if she's even known in the states but thought i'd share anyway. I chose to ignore the comments people have made. the readers of that rag arenttypically the sort whose opinion i would value. I'm sure a lot of people have made negative remarks but does she honestly look as if she gives a f**k.
I've also heard a lot of comments lately about how they not only like but prefer small breasts. Im pretty sure these men have always existed but i think it's taken my own acceptance of myself before i was willing to realise it. and even a lot of the men who are into breasts would prefer small natural ones over big fake ones. Ive heard this loads of times but for some reason always assumed it was a lie
I wish i could go au-naturel in the padding department because it would save a lot of worry when it came to erm exposing myself to new partners. however i really dont dress for men and as i like the way a bit of shape looks under most clothes, it shall remain. I dont feel like im trying to fool anyone, women do all sorts of crazy things to adapt their appearance as they so choose.
Aithinne 34bs sound absolutely perfect for a petite woman like yourself. if i saw you in the street id probably envy your figure:)
underwear-wise i bought some gorgeous camisole type sets recently. no worries over cup-size and they still look super cute in bed, drawing attention to my best bits.
sorry but im dying to catch up on all the posts i've missed
*gets hot drink and settles down to small-breast-fest*
Copeless
Why are boobs so EVERYTHING???

I was in a humongous liquor store in Chicago a couple of weekends ago (I don't drink, but the whole family was going on this booze buying excursion so I joined) and I saw this bottle of wine with a drawn woman on it. She had a very small, very sad, very triangular shaped, boob just sagging down as if were a big tear coming out of her very being. Her facial expression looked very sad as well. (and I could perfectly understand why!)

I froze when I saw it. I felt mortified, like I was being made fun of, and that people who buy that wine think, "Thank God MY (or my wife's) boobs don't look like that!!!" And that they have soirees at which they serve that wine from the bottle, passing it around so everyone can laugh at the woman with the gross boob on the label.

And then I was self-conscious that people around me would know exactly why I was staring at that particular wine label for so long. (I'm flat on the left, but have something even worse going on on the right...I'm totally asymmetrical, and the thing on the right is not normal. I've come to find out just recently that it's "tuberous") My right thing falls down and is way way lower than the left. It's totally obvious in clothes. It's always obvious. Nothing on the left, blobby dollhouse sized toilet paper tube on the right. You can tell I'm full of self love today.

I had been in an okay mood since our family was all together (cousins, aunt, mom, dad) and I felt "safe" for the first time in a long time, but that picture killed my mood in a millisecond.

I hate the reminders, I hate how it never goes away.
Vendetta
I feel we are all a bunch of fools, though I'm in it and probably I'm on the worst side most of the time. I can't believe there is a "small breast support group" and I'm part of it. And worst, the girls I "meet" that are part of it too, are smart and insightfull as a subject like this whouldn't expect. Thank you all for teaching me that intelligent women are allowed to have this sort of issues in the middle of active and criative lives. That we are all just women sometimes, and have the right to be so.
starship
vendetta you seem much more positive than the last time i was here:)
except for the calling us fools part
Vendetta
lol I didn't mean harm. It's kinda "sweet fools".
karategrrl
QUOTE(Aithinne @ Oct 3 2008, 06:30 PM) *
I also HATE when people say "more than a mouthful/handful is a waste" and other such dismissive comments to try to make small-breasted women feel better. I don't want men to say this to me. I want them to say instead, "Small breasts are damn sexy, womanly, and feminine in their own right. They are beautiful and turn me on as much as larger breasts. I love small breasts on women!" THAT, my friends, would make me feel great if it came from a man's mouth. Not that stupid, more than a mouthful is wasteful crap. I wish we would hear some real compliments in response to small breasts, instead of those stupid evasive comments.


Right on, right on! Try telling a man "more than mouthful is a waste." That would go over like a ton of bricks.

QUOTE(Aithinne @ Oct 3 2008, 06:30 PM) *
Another gripe I have is clothing for small breasted women. Large-breasted women always seem to say that clothes fit better on us. They are WRONG. Clothes fit best on women with medium-sized breasts. Large-breasted women are always agonizing over how they are always popping out of their clothes, but small-breasted women constantly struggle when they cannot fill anything out. And I can't tell you how angry I used to get when I would go to buy a bra and they were either white, black, or nude colors. Nothing pretty, lacy, or racy for us smallies. Like we weren't feminine enough to have sexy clothing made for us. I always thought lingerie companies were telling us smallies that we weren't real women because we were small, that we weren't sexy so we didn't need the sexy underthings. It felt like they were patronizingly patting our backs from afar and telling us that when we develop into real women, then we can shop for real women's lingerie.


Again, I couldn't agree more!

Great to see so much going on here!!

Hey ladies, I like lulalu stuff and especially the Agent Provacateur lingerie, but does anyone know of really cute petite bras and stuff that don't cost so much? It's not that I'm not worth it and all that, but I just don't want to break the bank on stuff that never sees the light of day. $150. bras????? Cripes. I can buy 3 pairs of shoes for that.
neurotic.nelly
copeless,

boobs are not sooooo everything. it's a scam, to make you focus all your attention on something as trivial as breast tissue, to make you think that something is wrong with you in order to make you purchase goods, services, products that you don't need to create an image of perfection.

guess what? you're imperfect. guess what? imperfection is beautiful. it's what you do with what you've go that makes the difference. it's how you rock your imperfections that make you stand out. i've seen it again and again.

one time i walked into a cafe in s.f. and got some tea, and when i went upstairs to enjoy it, i found all of these beautiful large paintings of the female form. all of them were lopsided, and all of them were beautiful. i was floored!

take care of yourself, it's a cold world out there, don'tchaknow!
karategrrl
QUOTE(neurotic.nelly @ Oct 6 2008, 04:04 PM) *
[color=#006400][font=Comic Sans MS]copeless,
one time i walked into a cafe in s.f. and got some tea, and when i went upstairs to enjoy it, i found all of these beautiful large paintings of the female form. all of them were lopsided, and all of them were beautiful. i was floored!


True dat, double true!

I mentioned this here once before but it bears repeating for the new ladies...

I went to a training at a yoga center once and, one night of the program, most of the participants ended up in the (no clothing) women's jacuzzi. I was so floored at how BEAUTIFUL everyone looked--in their own way--black, white, old, young, low-riding breasts, small, perky ones, large bodies, small bodies, etc. That is a memory forever etched into my conscience.
Aithinne
Hey ladies, thanks for all your comments to my post!

Vendetta, I am sure you are right that my insecurity and hermit-ness is what is scaring all the men off, instead of my boobies. It makes rational sense and is probably true. It's the emotions that get in the way and make me insecure and turn into myself, and then the whole thing becomes a nasty cycle.

Also, I'll have to refer to Christine Nectarine when she said that B cups are still considered small in our culture. And I'm not even a full B anyway, I think I'm between an A and B, because I get that gap in my bras still. For one thing, I don't understand why B-cup bras have underwires... total mystery to me, because we don't need them. It seems like all the bras you get at a lingerie store have underwire in my size and under. I totally wish I could find more bras without underwires because they're so damn uncomfy. I also totally understand everyone here when they were talking about how all the bras for small-breasted women have some kind of padding, or push-up, or stuffing. I can sympathize with feeling like everyone else but you wants to make you look larger. I hate padded bras because you feel them and get cotton, not boobie. I hate that feeling of faking. I wish more underwear companies would stop putting stuffing on the outside of our boobies for those ladies who decide not to put the stuffing inside their boobies.

I'm also reassured to hear some of you talk about how your SOs love your breasts the way they are. It makes me feel proud and happy for you all and happy for myself by proxy!

Karategrrl, your comment about telling men that more than a mouthful is a waste nearly made me fall out of my chair, I was laughing so hard. I will definitely have to remember that one! HA!!!!!

Starship, thanks for your comment. I don't want you to envy me!! I think us smallies have had enough envy of other women's bodies to fill the world's oceans. We should start looking in the mirror and envy the body in the reflection... wait, that's us. Rock on!

Have a great day ladies!
strongirl
I've been meaning to share this quote, and think that all of us, and Copeless in particular should meditate on it:

"There is no excellent beauty that hath not some strangeness in the proportion." Sir Francis Bacon, 1561-1626.

It's interesting, but I've always found that the people who totally captivate me with their beauty are the ones who have some oddity - a mole, unusual height, or coloration, or weird hair, whatever. I used to be unable to even tell Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera apart when they first became popular - to me they were just generic interchangable young blondes. But someone with a feature that really stands out - now that person will catch my eye. I recently met a girl who has extremely differently sized breasts - one quite large, the other very small. She makes no attempt to hide this and she's quite sexy and attractive.

And I've said this before, but going to clothes-optional beaches and hot springs (of the naturist school, not a swinger's type place) is a great way to see a wide range of real normal bodies and practice body acceptance.

Here's to embracing "strangeness", with grace and style.
Vendetta
http://www.alexandra-aaa.com/forums/

Now THESE are small breasted ladies. Some of them don't even have any breast tissue to speak of. A-cup is considered HUGE on that forum. I know it may sound bad but it's kinda like that though that karategrrl and I have... be happy with your A and B cups ladies.
karategrrl
QUOTE(Aithinne @ Oct 6 2008, 07:14 PM) *
I wish more underwear companies would stop putting stuffing on the outside of our boobies for those ladies who decide not to put the stuffing inside their boobies.

Karategrrl, your comment about telling men that more than a mouthful is a waste nearly made me fall out of my chair, I was laughing so hard. I will definitely have to remember that one! HA!!!!!


Aithinne, that was very well put about the stuffing inside and out. Yep, that bugs the shit out of me too. I think what bugs me more, though, is B- and C-cup (and up!) bras with stuffing and padding and push-up and "OOMPH!" and all that crap. Look at the Victoria's Secret catalogs--they have lots of that--big-busted women with the boobs squashed together and up to where they're practically under the woman's chin. Give it a fucking rest, already. They're big--no need to "enhance" them.

Glad I cracked you up!! Yep, I think the absurdity of a lot of men's comments becomes more obvious when we try the comments on them for size (no pun intended).
Vendetta
http://www.flickr.com/photos/31211461@N08/

Just some of my work
karategrrl
Hi ladies, I'm on a Keira Knightley binge of late. My breasts look just like hers (or maybe an entire half an ounce larger, ha). Here are some photos of this small busty who is proud of her bod:

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z298/cd...nightley-87.jpg
http://www.blockbuster.co.uk/bbimages/UK/g...aKnightley2.jgg
http://www.fashionista.com/images/entries/...llpapers-04.jpg://http://www.blockbuster.co.uk/bbimag...llpapers-04.jpg</a>
[url=http://images.askmen.com/galleries/actress/keira-knightley/pictures/keira-knightley-picture-2.jpg]http://images.askmen.com/galleries/actress...y-picture-2.jpg://http://www.fashionista.com/images/e...y-picture-2.jpg

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/12_0...y1_800x1004.jpg
http://www.blogwaybaby.com/uploaded_images...Sexy-781292.jpg
http://data1.blog.de/blog/e/enterthevoid/i...nightley-01.jpg
http://bp3.blogger.com/_wmO4FqABOKc/Ru5ThI...ley+%283%29.jpg



Vendetta, your photography is wonderful. You're quite talented!
I didn't care for what I saw on the "Flatsy" site, but thanks for finding and sharing. Like DJ-biz once mentioned here, I find the term "flat-chested" a bit offensive; it makes me think of a wooden board. Every chest, no matter how small its breasts, has some shape.
Vendetta
yeah, I also find that term a bit offensive

My breasts look like hers, is some photos I think I'm smaller, but I'm not that thin

I'm kinda curious to see some of your faces you know
karategrrl
QUOTE(Vendetta @ Oct 7 2008, 07:16 PM) *
I'm kinda curious to see some of your faces you know


Me too. I won't post my pic publicly, but I'd e-mail personally...
starship
QUOTE(Vendetta @ Oct 7 2008, 08:16 PM) *
I'm kinda curious to see some of your faces you know


me three!
I always want to post pictures on bust, but like to keep a bit on anonymity so I can talk about literally anythingg I want without worrying who might see it or feeling inhibited

I met a girl today who had super small boobs. and she was bra-less! It made me feel pretty stupid sat there in my padded bra. she seemed so uncaring and comfortable in her skin. she wasnt a 'conventional beauty' but there was something so unique and captivating about her. i would loved to have talked to her about it but it's not exactly the sort of thing you bring up with someone you just met is it. I felt like whipping any enhancements off and saying 'look im like you!'. which is pretty silly really, im sure larger breasted ladies dont think similar things.

crinoline
Here's me (and Crinoboy)

k...for some reason that didn't work... it's post # 157 in the "say Cheese" thread (currently on page 8)
eta- fixed it, just scroll down. *I suck at technology*
karategrrl
Crinoline, you're beautiful!

I had to share this comment about our girl Keira Knightley. I found it among a bunch of negative online comments about one of her pics--you know, where everybody's saying how she's too "flat" and skinny, blah blah:

"i don't care what anybody says, keira is hot! As far as breasts go, small is just as beautiful & sexy as big. i'ts unfortunate that there r still sorry excuses for men who judge a woman's beauty by her breast size."

Thought that might brighten someone's day!
neurotic.nelly
Keira is a beautiful woman. I really like that first photo in particular. I did not like the way her body was portrayed in The Darjeeling Limited, but I thought her body was portrayed beautifully in Atonement.

V, I couldn't read any of the threads on the AAA forum. Do I have to sign up first??
Listen, I am small breasted. An AAA, AA, A, and even B's can be small in my book. It's just the way it is. I think a large B is not small, but a large B may think she is small. Its all based on belief and perspective. Were you in any of those photos that you took and posted?? Nice work by the way.


ailurophile
Okay, I'm very curious to see you girls too. If you girls look like Keira Knightly, I'm envious. You say you are AA and A. I fit in a 34A but wear 32B. Although the 32B has a space in the cup, I like the band tighter around my body. The 34's tend to move around. I cannot go without a bra, you know, due to my points. unsure.gif You girls, Vendetta and Karategrrl seem like you can. It's all in the shape I think. I would e-mail or post somewhere as well. Maybe I'll even "take the plunge". What a cutie you are, Crinoline! I would actually like to get your opinions if you would see me with a bra and without (with clothes, of course-due to the internet). The opinions of my full breasted friends mean nothing to me.

Neurotic.nelly is right about belief and perspective. Aithinne, you are huge in my opinion but you may feel small in your 34B. I felt so jealous of you when I read your post, like you don't belong with this group (of course you are welcome), yet, I have to remember that all of our feelings count. Except in the following case......... Read on:
I eat lunch at work with a woman who always complains about her small boobs...around me of all people. Because she is so large, she pisses me off. I finally said to her just yesterday, "What are you, a 36D???". She said "Well, I take a 34D but can't always find that size, so I have to get a 36D." -----What A Bitch!!!!----- And yes, you read right that is a D -as in Dog! I cannot believe I hit her size right on the button, though. I've been checking out women's breasts for way too long, I guess!
Vendetta
I put a photograph of me and my dad's girl on their wedding which was two weeks ago. It looks like a polaroid and we're both blonde, feel free to take a look http://www.flickr.com/photos/31211461@N08/
Karategrrl, forzainterior@hotmail.com eheh and if the rest of the girls will, I'd love to see you

ailurophile, I don't really think I can go braless. I'm an AA cup so under my clothes, my breasts are resumed to "two points" as you say. And with the nip rings it gets worse and sometimes it looks like I have two nips at each nip lol It's odd

you're really sweet crinoline, I'd love to photograph you
karategrrl
QUOTE(ailurophile @ Oct 8 2008, 02:32 PM) *
I eat lunch at work with a woman who always complains about her small boobs...around me of all people. Because she is so large, she pisses me off. I finally said to her just yesterday, "What are you, a 36D???". She said "Well, I take a 34D but can't always find that size, so I have to get a 36D." -----What A Bitch!!!!----- And yes, you read right that is a D -as in Dog! I cannot believe I hit her size right on the button, though. I've been checking out women's breasts for way too long, I guess!


I constantly check out other women's breasts!!! Haha. Does that make me a perv? laugh.gif No, really, I guess it's my concern with breast size coming through--hard habit to break!

Uh, yeah, her comments would piss me off too. I have dealt with similar things many times. I once got so sick of hearing my (B- or C-cup) sis-in-law do the same thing, I flashed her just to show her what "real" small breasts actually looked like. I think that made quite the impression, ha.
Vendetta
I've posted another one of me holding a cameleon on these holidays ehehe check it out

http://www.flickr.com/photos/_vendetta/
edie52
Hey ladies! Just wanted to let you all know that I've been lurking... and I'm always here in spirit.

Love seeing the pictures. V- I'm studying photography as well. Your beach shots are really great- especially the one with the red circle. It's so interesting and graphic.

I'm about the same size as Keira, too (not saying I *look* like her though!). I disagree with people who say she looks unhealthily skinny. To me she looks like someone who is naturally slender, and toned on top of that. I have a similar body type but it's softer because I don't really work out. She has an amazing stomach. My boyfriend thinks she's hot, too.

Oh, and to refer to something that you guys were talking about last week- my boyfriend's mom is also really small, like AA. She's a tiny, toned, wiry woman who looks amazing for her age. So maybe that has something to do with my bf finding really small breasts feminine. Then again, his brother is with a pretty busty girl, and their other bro is with an average-sized lady... they all have different tastes, it would seem- or more likely they're all open to falling for someone regardless of her size. That said, everyone has a preference, and I can respect that. I just hate messages in the media that try to tell us that every guy wants big tits, and that we're inferior if we don't have 'em.

I really want to post a picture of myself, or I could email it around. I'll try to figure out how to post it soon.
karategrrl
QUOTE(edie52 @ Oct 8 2008, 04:34 PM) *
I'm about the same size as Keira, too (not saying I *look* like her though!). I disagree with people who say she looks unhealthily skinny. To me she looks like someone who is naturally slender, and toned on top of that. I have a similar body type but it's softer because I don't really work out. She has an amazing stomach. My boyfriend thinks she's hot, too.


I also don't get people saying she's too skinny. She's tiny, but it's her body type. I am built similarly, though I'm not as thin (I'm more muscular, I guess). I've had my share of men make stupid "too skinny" comments as I was walking by (as if I asked for their opinion <ahem>) but I've also had a guy in the gym comment on my leanness, and how it was "a great look." So I guess you can't make everybody happy. wink.gif I guess Keira has her admirers and critics.
dj-bizmonkey
strongirl, i love that francis bacon quote, i used to have it pinned up in my locker in high school a million years ago.

i love me some keira too. i think our breasts are about the same size, i might be a little smaller, but i definitely do NOT look like her. i'm pretty thin on my top half (well not really these days, but i hope to be again soon) but i have a gratuitous ass and big thighs left over from my horseback riding days. if i can find a cute picture (i'm not very photogenic) i will send it on to you ladies.

even though i'm not skinny, i hate skinny bashing, i find it so unnecessary. as for the 'too skinny' comments, karategrrl, that shite drives me bonkers. unsolicited comments and criticisms from complete strangers. what makes men (and women for that matter) think they have the right to critique my body at random. it always seems like the guy with the hairy back, bald head and enormous beer gut is the most vocal too.

ailurophile- that woman would piss me off too! grrrr! people like that need a healthy dose of perspective. i am ALWAYS checking out other women's breasts, and i too (karategrrl) feel like a total perv. i can't help it, i'm constantly searching for women who look just like me or women who i'd want to look just like.

speaking of being a perv, i was on google video watching some ridiculous bbc show called 'tribal wives.' have any of you seen it? basically they take these uk women and transport them into remote villages all over the world for a month so they can do some soul-searching. i especially liked the episodes on the himba and the waorani, who are bare-breasted pretty much all the time. the narrator even takes the time to point out about the himba 'whilst the breast is seen as completely nonsexual, the buttocks must be covered up because of its sensuality.' i just liked looking at all the different sized, kinda saggy, kinda floppy out there breasts. unpretentious breasts that barely seemed to cross the minds of the women they were attached too. the waorani were especially comfortable with their bodies. in the end they tried to dress up the british lady in their traditional garb, which is pretty much grass and animal skin that covers nothing, not the breasts, butt or vagina. the woman doesn't want to take her underwear off and one of the waorani women says to her, 'what are you so afraid of, i've got a vagina, you've got a vagina, we've all got vaginas!' they seemed kind of insulted when she wouldn't get totally naked!

v- your photographs are awesome and you are super cute! you too crinoline, maybe you had mentioned it before, but i definitely always pictured you as a blonde little pixie.

who knew this forum was full of such hot hotties. we should totally have a small-boob convention. i'm thinking, las vegas! vendetta could do a photo shoot of us all showing off our bodies and we could turn it into a calendar! not that this will ever happen, but it's a nice fantasy.....
thirtiesgirl
FYI, ladies, there are several regular male posters on this music forum who like women with small boobs. I used to be a regular member there a while back and would frequently read positive comments about small-breasted women, including Kiera Knightly, who's picture was posted with surprising regularity on a forum dedicated to a band from the '80s/'90s who hasn't made music together in over 10 years. It should be noted that there are many other threads on the forum, though, dedicated to many other things besides music...hence, the small boob love.
ailurophile
Goodness, you girls are all so young. Are Karategrrl and I the eldest chics here? You look so sweet Vendetta. Hard to see the former punk rocker. I've posted a pic in my profile of my sister and me. I am on the right with the longer hair. (I hope I did it correctly!) I also have a "My Space" www.myspace.com/catmom330. (A young girl at work talked me into creating one. Weirdo!)

Starship: Okay who is the blonde girl that you showed us? The model from UK?? You called her "The Dutchess". If you look at the second pic of her with the purse on her pippee, that is the shape of my breasts but I have a little more tissue. I looked up her work and I do not look like that in my clothes without my padded bras. What the heck? I look at her (who looks so cute) and see myself and think ---why have I been so deprived?? I think it is so unfair. I'm feeling bad about myself again these days.

Dj-bizmonkey and Karategrrl: I too feel like a perv. I think girls notice sometimes when I am looking. I wonder if they think I am gay. Like you, DJ, I search for girls my size (it's comforting when I find them) as well as checking for breasts that I would want.

ailurophile
I don't think that worked. If I go into my profile, the new picture shows there but my old pic seems to still be the one that you see (which is a stencil of one of my tattoos, I might add.) I am not technologically inclined. Please help??
Vendetta
I can see your picture with your sister, you look really good blondie! How old are you? I'm 24, I might be one of the youngest in here
karategrrl
Am I that ancient? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
Well, being that I am turning 40 in the Spring of '09, I guess I am one of the oldest ones around here!

I wasnt' sure about all this posting of photos at first, but I'm now enjoying seeing all of you! I can't believe this, but I actually don't have recent photos of myself that show a typical, everyday look. I'll have to take one!
crinoline
yay, dj's back!!! *runs around in circles until I fall down* What about that spanking pic that used to be your avatar? ...it doesn't show your face though... - I love the tribal "we all have vaginas" story

I can see your pic in your profile, ailuro - cute!

V- when I saw your pic on your website, I thought you were a model! I wish you could take pictures of me, I love your work!

...I'm 23, btw, if we're exchanging ages...
dj-bizmonkey
i'm 26 and there is a face shot of me in my profile if anyone cares to look. it was taken last year when my hair was still growing out from having a completely shaved head (which i LOVED) so it's kind of a euro-mullet. i love that spanking picture too. it was from a hollywood party where i went dressed as j-lo. it was a fitting choice for me. i wish i had her size breasts, but i always felt a little kinship with her because her boobs aren't huge, she's kind of small on top and big on bottom like me.

wow. i just said i felt kinship with j-lo. i might have to re-think that entire statement.

i'm wearing my size 1 intimissi bra right now, black lace, i took the padding out. i'm a little heavier than i usually am so my boobs are just slightly bigger and i've got some 'almost' cleavage. awesome. i just got some ribbed tank tops from target for $7 each and even though it is kind of scandalous, i've loved rocking them with no bra. i think my little boobs look so sexy!

eta- thanks crin! don't make yourself nauseated spinning around like that! i know i've been out of the loop and i can't bitch, but has knorl been in here recently? haven't seen her around.....
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