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anna k
My aunt likes exercising a lot. I don't think I inspired her, she just wanted to know what my exercise habits were, but I didn't like that she would bring it up at the dinner table in front of family, it made me feel self-conscious.

I agree on focusing more on personal goals with working out rather than weight loss. It used to be weight loss, but now I focus on strength and being a better dancer. I'd like to be able to lift my own body in strength moves, have a strong core, and be more flexible. I especially like it if I can do an exercise DVD that is deemed advanced or hard, like a Budokon DVD or a kickboxing workout DVD based in MMA drills.

spot-on, those women are all gorgeous, and very intelligent and interesting people. I hardly watch porn, but I like them because of their interviews, and how Chloe and Belladonna can seem like sex educators besides being porn stars, like Nina Hartley is, who gave great advice in an old interview about knowing your own body, and not to put all the blame on your lover if they're not getting you off, to figure it out yourself.
karategrrl
Ladies, I'm floored by what so many of you are describing--the rude comments, the physical poking, etc. about weight and breasts. Mostly because over 2 years ago I wrote a blog about VERY similar things that have happened to me. I can't post it b/c I'm now trying to get published elsewhere, but for any regulars here who would be interested in reading it, I'd be more than happy to email to you directly if you want (also don't want to clog up the board with a full article).

I'm on one hand relieved to hear I'm not the only one who's experienced this bullshit. On the other hand, I'm disgusted that so many of us have experienced it & that it's such a common experience. WTF!!???

When you're thin and are seen eating healthy food or junk food, someone will likely say something. You can't win. I supposed it may, however, be the same if you're heavy--like people may smirk if you're eating "fatty" stuff: "No wonder she's fat" or eating a salad: "Good thing she's eating that salad." The difference seems to be that when you're thin, people say it to your face, while if you're heavy they just do it behind your back. Either is equally unacceptable.
Aithinne
karategrrl, if you're publishing it elsewhere on the net and that elsewhere is a place that other people can post comments to, let us know, because I will happily add my experience to back you up. Skinny-bashing and fat-bashing are the SAME thing and need to stop.
spot-on
I'd love to see the article you wrote! (spotonmail at gmail dot com) I am so sick of people also saying "why do you need to workout? you're so thin" yeah but if I don't workout I'll lose my muscle mass and be all boney. "another salad, eat some real food" as they point to their fast food. Which is laughable considering real food is actually good whole foods that I already have on my plate thank you very much! It's true you can't win. And what's even sadder is that it's our female peers that usually do the comments! Why aren't we supporting each other?



QUOTE(karategrrl @ Oct 22 2009, 08:13 AM) *
Ladies, I'm floored by what so many of you are describing--the rude comments, the physical poking, etc. about weight and breasts. Mostly because over 2 years ago I wrote a blog about VERY similar things that have happened to me. I can't post it b/c I'm now trying to get published elsewhere, but for any regulars here who would be interested in reading it, I'd be more than happy to email to you directly if you want (also don't want to clog up the board with a full article).

I'm on one hand relieved to hear I'm not the only one who's experienced this bullshit. On the other hand, I'm disgusted that so many of us have experienced it & that it's such a common experience. WTF!!???

When you're thin and are seen eating healthy food or junk food, someone will likely say something. You can't win. I supposed it may, however, be the same if you're heavy--like people may smirk if you're eating "fatty" stuff: "No wonder she's fat" or eating a salad: "Good thing she's eating that salad." The difference seems to be that when you're thin, people say it to your face, while if you're heavy they just do it behind your back. Either is equally unacceptable.

Aithinne
QUOTE(spot-on @ Oct 22 2009, 11:02 AM) *
Why aren't we supporting each other?


Because most women aren't hanging out with the awesome ladies at Bust. That's why. tongue.gif
spot-on
Well I did some research on those women and I like Chloe and Aurora as smallies, but Belladonna has 34C so she's hardly a small bustie. Chloe was actually born near where I live, next town over and has small boobs so I do think the sex industry is listening. I would like to know whether they are in mainstream porn though or 'underage rollplay' porn (yeah pedo porn ok I said it) like Aithinne mentioned. I don't have a problem with porn in general, if the women want to do then that's fine with me. I do have an issue with what appears to be underage porn or promotes that interest. Whilst I realize that the actresses in that porn maybe over 18 the fact that they are portrayed as underage is not good IMO. Too many sicko's out there to feed on that image.

There will always be a sex industry. I think the great thing now is that more women are standing up and taking control of the industry and making porn that women will find a turn on and want to watch. I don't find stripping demeaning. I watched some youtube footage of the world pole dancing championships, the women in that are athletes, you can see that. They workout and workout hard (excuse the pun). However I do worry about the porn industry moreso than stripping/dancing/modeling. Due to health issues more than anything else. Having to be tested every 25 days, not using protection, drug use etc. Those are more issues for me than the feminist aspect of it.


QUOTE(anna k @ Oct 22 2009, 07:13 AM) *
I know of some famous female porn stars with small breasts, like Chloe, Belladonna, and Aurora Snow. They are petite women, and implants wouldn't look right on them. I think Sasha is very intelligent and self-aware, but can also come off as pretentious or standoffish in interviews.

spot-on
Aithinne - ain't that the truth!!! laugh.gif
Aithinne
QUOTE(spot-on @ Oct 22 2009, 11:17 AM) *
Whilst I realize that the actresses in that porn maybe over 18 the fact that they are portrayed as underage is not good IMO. Too many sicko's out there to feed on that image.


Yes, I often wonder why there's such a demographic for teen porn, which many small breasted ladies are in that group, and why there's not a similar demand for simply small breasted women (not teens) porn. Makes me think that it's more about the fantasy of pre-legal girls than it is about small boobies.
Aithinne
QUOTE(spot-on @ Oct 22 2009, 01:08 PM) *
Aithinne - ain't that the truth!!! laugh.gif


Here here! We should have a bustie party.. I imagine it would be a lot of fun. Talk about a crazy party!
spot-on
Yep that's totally my point. How many of the small busted porn women we've discussed recently are actually in mainstream 'regular' porn? and not the pre-legal porn? I don't really watch porn so I can't really say. Anyone out there a porn watcher and know what movies these girls are doing?

QUOTE(Aithinne @ Oct 22 2009, 12:50 PM) *
Yes, I often wonder why there's such a demographic for teen porn, which many small breasted ladies are in that group, and why there's not a similar demand for simply small breasted women (not teens) porn. Makes me think that it's more about the fantasy of pre-legal girls than it is about small boobies.

karategrrl
World Poledancing Championships!!? Dang, I learn something new every day.

I checked out Stoya and OMG, she is beautiful. I didn't care for the other porn chicks mentioned here, but I am REALLY picky. I have to say, though, that at 40 I look at Stoya and feel like a mom--like, at 23 she seems VERY young, and who knows if she will one day regret getting started in porn so early? It's an industry where one has usually a short career, and with a stigma you carry forever.

Like I said, I feel somewhat mom-ish thinking these thoughts. smile.gif I remember, however, being 16, looking at 19 year olds and thinking they were grown-up, or being 10 and looking at teens the same way. It's all relative, I know. I must be turning into a mother hen, ha.
anna k
From what I've seen, Chloe and Aurora Snow don't really do the underage schoolgirl thing. Or maybe Aurora plays it up, but she's well-known now (she made a cameo in Superbad) and couldn't really pass as an unknown pretending to be a teenager. Chloe has this rough edge to her and doesn't do the schoolgirl thing, but she's about 37 or so now, so maybe way back in the day.

I love seeing the acrobatics of talented artists, and those women have such amazing strength and grace and beauty to do what they do. It's stunning.

spot-on
Yep check out the highlights on youtube, the best stuff starts about 1 min in. The isometric training they must do for the sheer strength to hold the positions is amazing! Remember they are supporting their whole body weight on the pole! The woman that won this year (Felix Cane) is so freaking amazing, seriously envious of her felxibility and strength.




QUOTE(karategrrl @ Oct 23 2009, 07:00 AM) *
World Poledancing Championships!!? Dang, I learn something new every day.

I checked out Stoya and OMG, she is beautiful. I didn't care for the other porn chicks mentioned here, but I am REALLY picky. I have to say, though, that at 40 I look at Stoya and feel like a mom--like, at 23 she seems VERY young, and who knows if she will one day regret getting started in porn so early? It's an industry where one has usually a short career, and with a stigma you carry forever.

Like I said, I feel somewhat mom-ish thinking these thoughts. smile.gif I remember, however, being 16, looking at 19 year olds and thinking they were grown-up, or being 10 and looking at teens the same way. It's all relative, I know. I must be turning into a mother hen, ha.

karategrrl
Wow, the pole dancing stuff is actually more classy than I expected--reminds me more of rhythmic gymnastics than strip club crap. I learn so much here. wink.gif
spot-on
Totally, it's definitely risen in the dance circles for sure, from just sleezy bars to an art/dance form of it's own. The current champ Felix Cane is more a dancer/gymnast in my opinion with her dance background, and right now she works with the Aussie Cirque Du Soleil! Powerful women indeed!

QUOTE(karategrrl @ Oct 23 2009, 10:38 AM) *
Wow, the pole dancing stuff is actually more classy than I expected--reminds me more of rhythmic gymnastics than strip club crap. I learn so much here. wink.gif

spot-on
That's very cool Anna, thanks for the info! Glad to see some smallies doing some sexy work!

I like seing the pole dancing cos it's sexy, graceful and empowering (just from a physcial standpoint the strength etc Anna mentioned, I get inspired by that). Plus if you look most of them have smaller boobs than strippers etc. It's moved into more of an artform now which I like. Unless you look at the Porn Pole Dancing (yes there is such a thing!) when it's all fake boobs, fake tans and crappy dancing. (IMO)

QUOTE(anna k @ Oct 23 2009, 07:58 AM) *
From what I've seen, Chloe and Aurora Snow don't really do the underage schoolgirl thing. Or maybe Aurora plays it up, but she's well-known now (she made a cameo in Superbad) and couldn't really pass as an unknown pretending to be a teenager. Chloe has this rough edge to her and doesn't do the schoolgirl thing, but she's about 37 or so now, so maybe way back in the day.

I love seeing the acrobatics of talented artists, and those women have such amazing strength and grace and beauty to do what they do. It's stunning.

chicaloca
Wow, that girl Stoya doesn't look like a porn star at all. No offense to other porn stars, but she's too beautiful to be on porn. Gorgeous face and great body - I agree her breasts fit her perfectly, any bigger and she'd look weird. She has a very delicate body I think. Unlike standard porn stars with their huge implants (have you noticed that the bigger the implants, the uglier the face? - it's like they're trying to drive the attention away from their face). As a matter of fact, I'd say smaller chested porn stars like Sasha Grey and Stoya don't get implants because they don't need to - they already look smokin' the way they are.

Not really a fan of porn, but I've watched it out of curiosity to see what my boyfriend gets out of it. He said he only uses it when we haven't had action in a while, but he prefers me - and after watching it, I believe him. Nothing exceptional going on there, LOL.

Wow, you girls are all so talented! Well, I love music (listening and creating), cats, reading, drawing, painting and just doing anything creative. Not really active, but I've been working out lately, and now I'm hooked - plus I just feel very proud that now I get tired less often and just feel more energized and confident. I like that healthy feeling it's given me, even if I only work out a little (30 min. elliptical every day, strenght training three times a week). I admit I'm trying to shed a few pounds, but even if I don't the health benefits its given me make up for it.
discowombat
Wow, Stoya is smokin'! Best of all her body looks just like mine tiny boobs, ribs, less pronounced curves and all yet I don't see flaws when I look at her. I think her confidence is the sexiest part! I will be showing this to my boyfriend in case he doesn't know about her yet.
spot-on
Ok sitting here on a Friday night, at home, with a beer sad.gif Sad I know but within the course of 2 hours I suddenly went from feeling fantastic, to feeling like my chest is exploding. Some cold/flu bug I suspect, all I know is I have enough snot and flegm for the whole of the bustie forum sad.gif All being well it's just a 24/48 hour thing. Anyway I'm bored and need to start a topic of small bustie conversation smile.gif

So I've recently lost 25lbs and now I need a new batch of clothing. I'm looking for top/dresses that look good on us smallies. I got a couple of spaghetti strap tops today and a cool top a few weeks ago. But its hard to know what I should be looking for to look good? Suggestions? pics would be great!
angie_21
QUOTE(Aithinne @ Oct 22 2009, 01:50 PM) *
Yes, I often wonder why there's such a demographic for teen porn, which many small breasted ladies are in that group, and why there's not a similar demand for simply small breasted women (not teens) porn. Makes me think that it's more about the fantasy of pre-legal girls than it is about small boobies.



I actually think is the opposite. The "barely legal" category (most of the time girls are protrayed as just-turned-18, still "teenagers," but not pre-legal!) does encompass more than simply small, natural breasts. We were discussing many pages back about cuteness, and you were all complaining about being called cute - well, that's what the barely legal category is all about. Guys who want to see cute, sweet, pretty girls without plastic surgery go for this category. So do guys who just like small boobs. Porn manufacturuers are too lazy to make 2 separate categories, but either way, it's not pedophile fantasies, it's about a fantasy for innocent but adult and sexual "girl-next-door"
nbdx0645
Hi Spot-on. I have some clothing recommendations. I wear a lot of slightly sheer garments when I go out. I like wearing clothing that is somewhat 'girly' (I like lace, frills, embroidery, detailing.) I also really, really like fitted t-shirts. I like wearing fitted cover-ups (shoulder shrugs, bolero, capelets, blazers) to add fullness to my upper area, I'm slightly pear-shaped. I do wear 'boobie tops' but I wear a lace bralette underneath. Urban outfitters has fantastic bralettes. I bought a bunch from Lula Lu, and I realized that UO sells the ones I bought for cheaper, and in more colors.

Some stuff I avoid: full corsets (all you need is the half-corset) scoop necks, wide V-necks, and things that simply do not fit. When I try on a shirt, I try it on twice....once with a bra, and once without. Be careful with online shopping....sometimes you have to pay to ship it back, and pay again to receive the exchanged item.

I am looking for new places to shop. I like Urban Outfitters, Pitaya (it's a place on campus), Anthropologie, Mod Cloth (for dresses, especially) and Free People. Another tidbit of advice: I don't follow trends. Buy what you like. My wardrobe style is a bit of everything. I go to Plato's Closet for jeans; you can try on a dozen different manufacturers.

My perfect-fitting, sexy AA bra hook-up: http://search.urbanoutfitters.com/?q=bralette For AA's, I think the best shaping is done without underwire. if I could wear these without a top on, I sure would! tongue.gif
edie52
Personally, I like looser tops that drape,
like this rather than tight ones. Tight, clingy, or extremely low cut tops are not part of my wardrobe. To work I usually wear a tank with a cardigan over it or a casual button up shirt with the sleeves rolled up to the elbows. If I'm going out I usually aim for hip rather than overtly sexy.
spot-on
Ok see I don't like lace, frills and girly. Heck I only just started wearing pink for heavens sake! I'm 37 at just got a pink t-shirt! So NOT a girly girl but I am trying to be a bit more 'dressy' for non work.

I guess I should mention that I thrift too, not buy at regular stores (and tryong to make my own clothes). Recently found that junior sizes fit me better than womens/misses as they are more fitted to my kind of figure I guess. They tend to be longer in the body or cropped properly too. I have always bought what I like rather than follow trends but that tends to set you in a rut and you end up 37 with a wardrobe full of the same thing. We need to branch out a little sometimes smile.gif

Jeans I have to be careful with as I have allergies to some metals, and the studs/buttons can cause problems. I found I am ok with Levi, LEI and Angel so far but not some others due to the metals they use. Yeah pain in the ass really smile.gif

I got some tops yesterday that I tried on and I think they look ok, but I need the cajones to wear them out! lol! I've been looking at some pics online of what the small busted celebs wear and then seeing if I can carry the same thing off. I do think a lot of it is confidence though. The top I bought a few weeks ago is like a boob tube with a halter coming from the center front tying at the back of the neck. I wore a strapless bra with it just give the girls a bit of a boost smile.gif I thought I looked great and felt it. Which is all that matters right?

nbdx0645 yep I noticed to stay away from scoop necks BUT will say that I have a couple of scoop neck sweater that look good over an open neck shirt. Just the layering I guess?

Trying to find some pics of the tops style I bought yesterday. If I felt up to it I'd model em and take pics, but I've been in my jammies all day, blergh

spot-on
Ok here is something like the tops I bought yesterday http://www.forever21.com/product.asp?catal...501&Page=15 except the ones I bought were spaghetti strap halters. Also one has no back and just has 2 ties. You think we can pull these off? I 'think' they look ok, but I worry about the cups puckering? Maybe they are meant to a bit? I've seen some smallie celebs wear this kind of top and they pull it off ok?

The one I got a couple of weeks ago was this kind of style http://www.forever21.com/product.asp?catal...884&Page=26 sooo comfy and kinda dressy at the same time. just wore it with jeans and boots. Mine didn't have a banded hem though
Aithinne
I know what you mean about junior sizes fitting better. Which is somewhat unfortunate because it's not always the type or style that I like to wear. I like more classic styles, which junior sizes tend to not have so much of. I tend to buy much of my clothes from Ann Taylor Loft.. Their prices are not too bad, and on sale day you can come away with some well made, nice clothing for not very much money. Plus, they seem to be made for smaller women. I really can't find another store that carries clothes I like in small enough sizes to fit me correctly without looking like a little girl putting on clothes two sizes too big. Their clothes make me feel like I've actually got curves, whereas most other places just make me feel like a curveless, androgynous...thing. Idk though, if you do thrift stores and make your own clothes, I guess my suggestion is not so helpful.

Also, another thing I've noticed about clothes... If you're smaller in the bust and are looking for a cami, I think the ones that are cut with a v-neck look better than ones that are cut straight across the chest. It seems kind of counter-intuitive, but I think the v-neck shirts give the illusion of more curve in the bust by drawing attention to it, but shirts cut straight across the chest make what boobies you do have disappear. The v-necks give a more hourglass illusion.
spot-on
that's the thing Aithinne, the reason I started thrifting was because my body shape was changing so fast and I got sick of buying clothes. Almost everything I bought earlier this year is too big. Including the summer shorts etc. Even though they are a womens Small. Not many places do an extra small in womens and honestly since I discovered juniors fit better I've been looking out for those brands rather than womens. I got some SO t-shirts for 99c each and figured if I wore them to bed they'd be worth it, well those are the tees I wear the most cos they fit perfectly. Even without a bra they look great smile.gif Not that I've had the courage to do that out yet. I have unruly nipples smile.gif

I agree on the cami's. which is strange because everything you read tells you not to get v necks if you are small in the chesticles department. I've always found a small v to be quite flattering for small busties.

Did anyone watch "medium" the other week with the woman who faked her rape and husbands death? At the end she had on a smokin black dress that looked great on her (our) body shape. I just wanted to reach through the tv and rip it off her and shove it in my closet, lol.
angie_21
Huh.. I have never heard of a "bralette" before. Those look more like, um, real bras. Anyways, thanks for the link, I love them!

I'm home sick today and wasting time on my favourite websites... anyways, here's an example of more fake boobie photoshopping in the media

Photoshopping Disaster
karategrrl
Um, I now have reason to try Urban Outfitters! Such CUUUUTE bralettes!! And reasonably priced!

And I totally agree about the V-necks. I only wear V's--no crew necks, ever. The consensus seems to be (in the fashion mags, anyhoo) that "V-necks are for showing ample bosomy cleavage" but the truth is they are more flattering to me than any other neckline. Just goes to show--wear what you like, feel comfy in, and works well for you,
spot-on
hahaha I love that site! Seen that pic before but still makes me lol. Such a bad photoshop job.


QUOTE(angie_21 @ Oct 26 2009, 09:41 AM) *
Huh.. I have never heard of a "bralette" before. Those look more like, um, real bras. Anyways, thanks for the link, I love them!

I'm home sick today and wasting time on my favourite websites... anyways, here's an example of more fake boobie photoshopping in the media

Photoshopping Disaster

Aithinne
I don't think I have ever seen a woman's picture altered to make her look smaller breasted. I wonder if it has ever happened in the history of the universe.
strongirl
Angie, I completely agree with your insight about the "barely legal" porn. Many of the guys I've been with fall into this category - they are attracted by sweet, playful, casual girls rather than "sophisticated", hard sex queens.

Along a similar line, I asked my bf the "cute vs. sexy" question the other night. Oy vey, the guy is overly analytical! So I won't go into it all here. But the basic concept was that he likes both, sees them as largely overlapping, but cute implies "pleasant, appealing, attractive" whereas sexy just makes you think of sex. He said a girl can be cute but not sexy, or sexy but not cute, but that the best for him was both. He said that "cute" also has a size component - "big" girls aren't usually cute. He also said the 99.9% of the time when a guy calls a girl "cute" it's a compliment and a come-on. Think about that, those of you who've been offended by being called "cute".

Personally, I've been called cute a lot...and I don't mind a bit. As long as it's not like my boss saying it or something!

Wow, everyone sure took off on the Sasha Grey thing! Thanks for all the interesting comments. I was a bit dismayed to find everyone comparing themselves to her in terms of "34B" etc - that was NOT something I expected. I had no idea of her measurements nor do I care to compare myself to her in that way. I was thinking more in terms of a very different perspective for a porn star - unaugmented, taking herself seriously, calling her own shots - and being intrigued by it. Now I have to look up all the other chicks you all mentioned! Fun stuff.

And the pole dancing - yeah, I'd seen some of those videos and taken a couple classes myself. It's way harder than I expected! Pretty cool. I'd like to get good at it but man, it would take a lot of work.



Aithinne
QUOTE(strongirl @ Oct 26 2009, 06:56 PM) *
He said a girl can be cute but not sexy, or sexy but not cute, but that the best for him was both.


And how exactly is a female supposed to know which of the categories listed above she is in? I personally cannot accept (or have a hard time accepting) that it's impossible for me to be sexy. I would rather be with no one than with someone who won't have sex with me because I'm cute. It's all very frustrating. If I was cute and didn't like sex so much, then this wouldn't be a problem and I could be happy not being sexy at all. Too bad my brain and looks clash.


As far as the porn goes, I don't really like the fake personalities that women have in videos. So I tend to like amateur better- people look real, and they look like they're actually enjoying themselves. Acted porn movies turn me off because the acting is so bad that it throws me out of the erotic headspace. Much like when men spit on women in porn. I can handle a lot, but the spitting just makes me go 'ick' more than some of the most hardcore sex stuff does. Don't know why. I'm not much for so-called 'erotic humiliation' though.
chicaloca
I found a porn star who, according to Wikipedia, wears a 32AA. She seems to be quite popular too, so I guess there really is a wide variety of bodies in porn. Her name is Melissa Ashley. I couldn't find any photo appropriate for posting, but a Google search (SafeSearch off, though) will return results.


I don't know... whith the recent discussion about porn stars I thought I'd bring it up.
strongirl
Thanks, Chicaloca, and everyone who's mentioned small-breasted porn stars in here. I think it's really great to dismantle the rigid equation that so many of us have stuck in our brains, that in order to be sexy you have to have big boobs. Whether or not we like porn, by acknowledging the existance of successful porn stars who are small-breasted we have to acknowledge that our dysfunctional equation doesn't hold up - you don't get to be a porn star without people finding you sexy. It's a very nice concrete way to tell ourselves that yes, small boobs can be sexy...so sexy that folks will pay good money to see them. I think this discussion has been really healthy and illuminating and productive! Too bad I'm too old for a career in porn...kidding.

spot-on
of course small can be sexy, look at all the actresses out there with smallies who continue to go from strength to strength. In fact I think they get taken more seriously with smallies, IMO. Kiera Knightly, Cameron Diaz, Kate Hudson, Claire Danes etc etc
anna k
You can add Natalie Portman to that list.
strongirl
Yep, and we've definitely gone over the smallie actress list in here before, which is great.

But I think it's a bit more effective in breaking that mental "boob/sex" equation when we're talking about porn stars because their appeal is all about sex and things like classic beauty, acting ability, etc are not a big part of the formula. We can rationalize the popularity of actresses by saying "Oh she's got such a pretty face" or "She's such a great actor" or "Her popularity is probably mostly with women not men" and in our dysfunctinal little minds tell ourselves that those actresses are popular in spite of their small breasts. But with a successful porn star, none of that holds up. To be successful at that, men have to find your naked body sexy, period. Seeing successful porn stars who look like...well...us!...has been a great reality check.

spot-on
Oh I totally agree! Especially to be within an industry where it almost seems 'bigger is better' and sometimes the "faker the better". I applaud them all for not succumbing to implants in order to get ahead. I think you are right that this proves that it's not about the 'barbie look' it's about natural sex appeal, and it's nice to see that we smallies are represented, represented well, and that some smallies are successful in the industry too.

That's one reason I posted about the Pole dancing, because it tends to be the smaller boobied women that do well in that arena. Usually they are leaner, stronger, and have the gymnast/dancer bodytype which is usually small boobed. Also think about it, big boobs would get in the way so much when wrapping yourself around a pole surely?

I wonder if there is a similar relationship in stripping? It's beleived that bigger boobs are better (for punters?), but I wonder really if they are? Isn't it all about confidence and sex appeal? Isn't THAT the turn on rather than just boobs, otherwise why bother with a strip club? Why not just buy a mag? So many questions....


QUOTE(strongirl @ Oct 29 2009, 09:31 AM) *
Yep, and we've definitely gone over the smallie actress list in here before, which is great.

But I think it's a bit more effective in breaking that mental "boob/sex" equation when we're talking about porn stars because their appeal is all about sex and things like classic beauty, acting ability, etc are not a big part of the formula. We can rationalize the popularity of actresses by saying "Oh she's got such a pretty face" or "She's such a great actor" or "Her popularity is probably mostly with women not men" and in our dysfunctional little minds tell ourselves that those actresses are popular in spite of their small breasts. But with a successful porn star, none of that holds up. To be successful at that, men have to find your naked body sexy, period. Seeing successful porn stars who look like...well...us!...has been a great reality check.
Persiflager
*delurks*

As a bosomy lady, I stick to scoop necks and avoid v necks - v's definitely suit smallies better. And I believe that's also the official Trinny & Susannah line.

*relurks*
auralpoison
I thought it was turtlenecks & pussybows that T&S were against?
spot-on
what's a pussybow? And were T&S against those for smallies or biggies? or just in general?

QUOTE(auralpoison @ Oct 29 2009, 01:45 PM) *
I thought it was turtlenecks & pussybows that T&S were against?

Persiflager
Them too! T&S have strong feelings...

spot-on, a pussy-bow is a blouse with a big droopy bow in the centre of the neckline - I think they were popular the other year as part of 'secretary chic'. And T&S were against them for biggies, and for them for smallies (ditto tops that are ruffled or otherwise embellished in the booby region).

I confess that in the early days of T&S I thought they were all-knowing gods and followed their rules religiously.
angie_21
I dunno, but turtlenecks definitely look generally crappy on me... not my thing. I also like v-necks, and haaate scoop necks unless they are very tight, because otherwise I am showing the whole world my bra every time I lean over.

I'll keep saying till I'm blue in the face, as far as I've ever known it, confidence, intelligence, desire, good posture and good hygeine are the things guys really notice. Any body will look good in the right context and in clothes that fit.. guys want to have sex with a girl who's well, good at sex, not a girl who has a certain body type. Any guy who says or thinks otherwise is either a bit virginal, or has only had bad sex before and doesn't know the difference. Some guys may gravitate towards one type or another, but it varies.. as we can see by the variety in the porn industry!

Also, my boyfriend just complained earlier today that all his friends have been accidentally mentioning how hot I am for the last few weeks. And my boobs haven't grown recently... so there just must be something other than boobs that guys like!
edie52
Speaking of clothes, I think this kind of silhouette is flattering to my figure (and looks like it could be flattering to many different shapes). I don't have a dress like it, but I get the same effect from wearing a pencil skirt with a loose-ish tee or sleeveless blouse. It shows off the waist, hips, and legs and drapes nicely on top. It creates some mystery and is more flattering than a really tight top (on me at least). I also get a similar effect from a loose silk dress I have that ties at the waist.

Oh yeah, I loathe turtlenecks on myself. Maybe they're one of those things that are really best on "average" figures? I saw a really sophisticated wool turtleneck sweater dress, but I thought I'd look like too much of a stick in it. But then I thought it wouldn't really be flattering to the super-curvy ladies either. I pictured it on a classic beauty like Grace Kelly.

ETA: Another reason I don't like turtlenecks is I don't really have a strong jaw. I literally look like a turtle in them.
karategrrl
Very interesting discussion here about smallies in porn. You've all made some legit points. I have to say for sure I feel so much better about my breasts since I discovered this place. it's so much less of an issue for me now.

I was gymming last night and watching TV while on the treadmill (really the only time I do so) and there was yet another reality show about women getting boob jobs. Yes, they all said it was about "feeling good from the inside," and the end result made them feel so confident. But dang, I'd rather forgo the risk, expense, upkeep and all that rot and just feel good and confident in the first place. To each their own, though.
spot-on
If it really was about "feeling good from the inside" why were they focusing on the outside? That's always been my argument for implants. They don't miraculously 'fix' something. They mask it, or bring other problems instead.

I do believe that implants are valid in cases of reconstruction or disease etc, but just for size issue I think it's a waste.

I've been spending some time on the 007b website. Some great advice on there!


QUOTE(karategrrl @ Oct 30 2009, 05:26 AM) *
I was gymming last night and watching TV while on the treadmill (really the only time I do so) and there was yet another reality show about women getting boob jobs. Yes, they all said it was about "feeling good from the inside," and the end result made them feel so confident. But dang, I'd rather forgo the risk, expense, upkeep and all that rot and just feel good and confident in the first place. To each their own, though.

spot-on
Ewwww I don't do bows, but wouldn't do the sailor look if they paid me! I'm just not a girly girl I guess. Frills and flouncy just ain't me.


QUOTE(Persiflager @ Oct 29 2009, 06:12 PM) *
spot-on, a pussy-bow is a blouse with a big droopy bow in the centre of the neckline - I think they were popular the other year as part of 'secretary chic'. And T&S were against them for biggies, and for them for smallies (ditto tops that are ruffled or otherwise embellished in the booby region).

I confess that in the early days of T&S I thought they were all-knowing gods and followed their rules religiously.

spot-on
I am really starting to think it depends on the overall figure of a person. Because that would look like a billowing tent on me blink.gif . I don't have the curves to pull it off, and the neckline is one I avoid as it looks horrid on me. lol See I prefer the tighter clothing than the draped/flowing.

I look better in separates rather than dresses so that's one reason to avoid dresses I guess. I have a great ass though so I like to focus on that smile.gif

QUOTE(edie52 @ Oct 30 2009, 03:19 AM) *
Speaking of clothes, I think this kind of silhouette is flattering to my figure (and looks like it could be flattering to many different shapes). I don't have a dress like it, but I get the same effect from wearing a pencil skirt with a loose-ish tee or sleeveless blouse. It shows off the waist, hips, and legs and drapes nicely on top. It creates some mystery and is more flattering than a really tight top (on me at least). I also get a similar effect from a loose silk dress I have that ties at the waist.

Oh yeah, I loathe turtlenecks on myself. Maybe they're one of those things that are really best on "average" figures? I saw a really sophisticated wool turtleneck sweater dress, but I thought I'd look like too much of a stick in it. But then I thought it wouldn't really be flattering to the super-curvy ladies either. I pictured it on a classic beauty like Grace Kelly.

ETA: Another reason I don't like turtlenecks is I don't really have a strong jaw. I literally look like a turtle in them.

honeybunch
QUOTE(Aithinne @ Oct 25 2009, 12:14 PM) *
I know what you mean about junior sizes fitting better. Which is somewhat unfortunate because it's not always the type or style that I like to wear. I like more classic styles, which junior sizes tend to not have so much of. I tend to buy much of my clothes from Ann Taylor Loft.. Their prices are not too bad, and on sale day you can come away with some well made, nice clothing for not very much money. Plus, they seem to be made for smaller women. I really can't find another store that carries clothes I like in small enough sizes to fit me correctly without looking like a little girl putting on clothes two sizes too big. Their clothes make me feel like I've actually got curves, whereas most other places just make me feel like a curveless, androgynous...thing. Idk though, if you do thrift stores and make your own clothes, I guess my suggestion is not so helpful.

Also, another thing I've noticed about clothes... If you're smaller in the bust and are looking for a cami, I think the ones that are cut with a v-neck look better than ones that are cut straight across the chest. It seems kind of counter-intuitive, but I think the v-neck shirts give the illusion of more curve in the bust by drawing attention to it, but shirts cut straight across the chest make what boobies you do have disappear. The v-necks give a more hourglass illusion.


Yes, to juniors sizes. I'm 22, and I don't think I'll ever stop wearing juniors clothes. I don't care what anyone says lol.

I actually think the straight across tops looks better. I look like a d-o-g- in v necks.
spot-on
Hahah I'm 37 and wearing junior sizes! I don't think there is an age restriction so we're good! The style does tend to flatter my figure better than womens sizes though so tough. I plan on always wearing juniors, ya know, unless my boobs miraculously decide to have a growth spurt, ROFL!

QUOTE(honeybunch @ Oct 30 2009, 03:50 PM) *
Yes, to juniors sizes. I'm 22, and I don't think I'll ever stop wearing juniors clothes. I don't care what anyone says lol.

I actually think the straight across tops looks better. I look like a d-o-g- in v necks.

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