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starship
QUOTE(spot-on @ Nov 11 2009, 02:47 PM) *
Honestly, I'm getting pissed off with the amount of people claiming padded bra's are false advertising when these are the same people dying their hair, having botox injections (Or worse - implants!), and applying make-up! Let's face it, unless you're the kind of woman that doesn't do any of those then it's changing your appearance in a way to display a different view. In my argument on the other board I likened it to those supportive underwear that suck in your gut (spanx?). People actually agreed that they were infact the same.

The issue is that the OP figured us smallies pad because we want to attract men, when in fact we pad to feel more confident or more sexy for OURSELVES. Why do people assume it's for the man's benefit? Chaps my hide!!!


http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/femail/artic...es-seconds.html -was looking at this today a lot of the comments on this talked of 'false advertising' which is a phrase that annoys me too. one guy asked how we'd feel if we met a 'hunk at the beach with a big package' and later found out it was all padding lol. the pictures annoyed me too (like how they made the woman without padding look all depressed and the implication that boobs are some party accessory not suitable for an office environment etc). And the fact that this was considered newsworthy in the first place:S...

angie those bralettes are so cute & its good to know what the sizing's like too, off to la senza for me:)
spot-on
Starship, that bra sounds like the new VS one, except the VS one the padding is all built in not removable. Yep I am pretty pissed off with the whole "false advertising' thing lately. Wearing a padded bra is no different to dying your hair, wearing make-up or spanx IMO. You are changing your original look into something different. Albeit temporarily. What about corsets? they squeeze in your waist falsely but no-one tells Dita Von Teese that she's false advertising!

Oh I need to go get some work done...
Aithinne
Ugh, and that second set of pictures, where the girl is wearing the white shirt? In the left picture, she's got huge '80s glasses on to make her look like a complete social reject. There's more going on in these pictures than just showing cleavage. She's smiling in the 'cleavage' picture, and her hair is down and flowing. One more example of advertizing BS. Of course they couldn't have the girl in the same position, same hairstyle, smiling in both pictures, with just the cleavage difference. They have to make it out like the 'unenhanced' look is dorky, undesirable, unsexy, and not capable of being attractive. Personally I think her boobs looked better in the 'smaller' pictures. If she was smiling, she'd blow barbie-double out of the water. What a sickening ad. I think we busties should start our OWN line of bras, cute patterns (not just white, nude, or black), unpadded, no push up, and advertize them in a way that shows their UNENHANCED gorgeous beauty!

On that other article where the girl said that men with bad eyesight and lights off can be your best friend.... fuck that!! I'll have sex with the lights ON, thank you very much. And if the guy doesn't like what he sees, he's perfectly welcome to get the hell out. Case closed.

It's time for us smallies to stop apologizing for our size. We don't need to 'make up for' our size, we don't need a stupid 'Mega Boost' bra to make us instantly bigger and worthy to go out on the town, and we don't need to feel inferior to bigger women. Any man who says otherwise needs to chop his dick off and shove it in his mouth because he won't be using it with the beautiful small-breasted woman with the lights on OR off.
angie_21
I dunno who buys into that "false advertising" thing. Is wearing underwear that shapes your body is somehow a new invention? As if women typically go outside without doing their hair, wearing make-up and choosing clothes that work with their figure. If you're wearing heels are you "false advertising" your height? If I wear contacts am I false advertising my ability to see? Now personally I'd be happy if we could all just walk around naked and not feel the need to hide our bodies, I'd be the first girl out there, but unfortunately that's not the real world.

I didn't like that article either, but it's interesting to know how other size A's out there are thinking. It's sad. I would never feel the need to announce to a guy right before having sex that my boobs are smaller than they looked in my bra. Maybe I'll also announce that I'm 2 inches shorter than I looked before, now that my shoes are off. What guy would care? And what girl would simultaneously complain about guys giving her boobs too much attention during sex, while also thinking that guy must hate how small her boobs are? That doesn't even make sense.
enfermera
LMAO, that white shirt "after" picture is so clearly airbrushed it makes my eyeballs hurt. yay, now i can have my shirt unbuttoned halfway down to my navel? srsly?

and really. guy getting to touch your boobs=happy guy. push-up bras are so commonplace i can't imagine a guy needing a disclaimer. and if he's seriously turned off by your lovely, natural breasts, who needs him?
buttercups


It's time for us smallies to stop apologizing for our size. We don't need to 'make up for' our size, we don't need a stupid 'Mega Boost' bra to make us instantly bigger and worthy to go out on the town, and we don't need to feel inferior to bigger women. Any man who says otherwise needs to chop his dick off and shove it in his mouth because he won't be using it with the beautiful small-breasted woman with the lights on OR off.
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I love that Aithinne, I totally agree! I'm so tired of feeling like I have to apologize for being so small and like it's something to be humiliated about. Why on earth do I feel like I should be humiliated? I guess one problem that I'm still struggling with is that I don't consider what I have to be breasts bc there really is almost zero breast tissue. If I had just small breasts I don't think I would feel as ashamed as I do to have pretty much nothing for a guy to grab onto but a nipple. That said, I do think my nipples are pretty cute, I just wish I felt like I could relate to the feeling of having some breasts. But should I have to feel like I owe other people an explanation for being made this way? I try to take the stance in my everyday life that it's really no one else's business what the hell I look like. I'm never going to be the "pornstar" looking girl and all you men out there are gonna have to deal with that!

Ugh those Mega Boost pictures really pissed me off. One of my main fantasies is for no body type to be considered better over another and for us all to be accepted no matter what, but I wonder if the day will ever come where there will be bras created to make girls look like me (not that I would wish it on anyone). I just had a funny thought when I was looking at those pictures wondering what it would look like if bras were created to give girls the "tiny boob" look. Maybe we should invent that!
enfermera
QUOTE(buttercups @ Nov 11 2009, 03:41 PM) *
I wonder if the day will ever come where there will be bras created to make girls look like me (not that I would wish it on anyone). I just had a funny thought when I was looking at those pictures wondering what it would look like if bras were created to give girls the "tiny boob" look. Maybe we should invent that!


this was popular in the 20's, buttercups! the flapper look included flat chests and straight figures, and women wore binders to flatten their breasts, and straight, drop-waisted dresses. the movie "thoroughly modern millie" shows julie andrews struggling with her large breasts, and wondering why rich girls always had flat chests that let their beads hang straight laugh.gif

truly, fashions cycle around, including popular body types; we just happen to be in the other end of the cycle.
spot-on
The small boob vs big boob look definitely cycles. Women throughout the ages have altered and adorned their bodies to conform with the latest societal trends. Like enfermera said the 20's were definitely small boob city, with larger endowed ladies taping their boobs down to get "the look". Big boobs came back into fashion in the 40's/50's then it flipped again with the 60's and the Twiggy look. In the 70's natural was the look to go for, boobs swung free and easy and whatever you had was appreciated for being what they were, gloriously natural, whatever their shape/size. The 80's though saw the turn back to big boobs and the implants phase began and things kinda spiraled from there.

Ok upon checking this next bit over for spelling, I see that I kinda went off into a bit of rant then off on a tangent. But still posting it because I am working through some issues and I need to get it off my chest (pun fully intended) tongue.gif

I really don't think anyone can say that heels, make-up, hair dye, supportive underwear, or push up bra's etc are wrong because it's taking away womens right to choose, which is afterall what feminism is all about. Sure I agree, we don't NEED these things, but the fact is they are there should we CHOOSE to use them. What needs to change is the media's portrayal of these objects and of our breasts, not our individual opinions. Like has already been mentioned the before and after pics of the bra woman are ridiculous (but they do the same for weight loss products etc too). There are TONS of women (celebs and IRL) that are completely happy with small breasts, odd shaped breasts, no breasts etc, but the media portrays these women as abnormal and unfortunately this is what young boys and girls are led to believe and where pressure comes from. Heck when I was younger implants were unheard of, only for actresses/models, now it seems everyone is getting them. But not only that, it's that when they get them they are then considered "better". THAT IMO is what needs to change! They aren't "better" they are just different to what they were.

I used push up bra's a lot in my late teens/early 20's. Not to get a man but to make myself feel better. I had lots of body and personal issues to work through (still am to an extent) and they made me happier. I like wearing nice underwear what can I say? I considered implants sure, but I knew I couldn't do that to my body. Then I got into fitness and things fell into place for me... for a while. All my life I think I have fit myself into a mold of the person I thought people wanted to me to be, and when those people went away (we moved) and it was just me and my husband I realized something. I was 30 and didn't know who the fuck I was! I've done lots of soul searching in the past year or so (and some procrastinating) and I've come to the conclusion that I am going to create the new me. the person *I* want to be. This has meant working through some issues I still have with my breasts, and why I joined this board: To bounce (ha ha!) around idea's, to try and be happier with my breasts (I am most the time I swear!) and to help anyone else struggling with these issues. I like my breasts. They are small, but perky, the nipples are great and I love them being touched. But there is that little fucking voice in the back of my head telling me they aren't big enough, aren't good enough and that they aren't "normal". I just need to find some rope and duct tape and gag it the hell up!

Since about 1996 I wore bralets and sports bra's pretty much exclusively. This wasn't much of an issue to begin with but when we moved to America I saw my self confidence plummet. Sure there were other reasons too but I think one was that I didn't FEEL confident within myself. Like I said I've always felt happier with pretty underwear, it was always my one vice clothing wise. That's why this year I have been on a quest to make myself FEEL happier. Losing weight was one step, getting recertified another, and now trying to find my style and bring back feminine items into my wardrobe, including proper bra's. I don't want implants but they'll pry my push up bra's from my cold dead hands!

Oh and for the record I've never had a problem getting laid either with my smallies either! Quite the opposite wink.gif Lights on, sober and 20/20 vision smile.gif Oh and I've never needed to stop and tell the guy I have a push up bra on! Ridiculous! But then once I get going, I don't stop, lol! If a guy were to ever have a problem with my boobs, then he wouldn't be with me very long! I may have issues to work through, but I don't need someone else's too!
karategrrl
QUOTE(Aithinne @ Nov 11 2009, 07:20 PM) *
On that other article where the girl said that men with bad eyesight and lights off can be your best friend.... fuck that!! I'll have sex with the lights ON, thank you very much. And if the guy doesn't like what he sees, he's perfectly welcome to get the hell out. Case closed.

It's time for us smallies to stop apologizing for our size. We don't need to 'make up for' our size, we don't need a stupid 'Mega Boost' bra to make us instantly bigger and worthy to go out on the town, and we don't need to feel inferior to bigger women. Any man who says otherwise needs to chop his dick off and shove it in his mouth because he won't be using it with the beautiful small-breasted woman with the lights on OR off.

LMFAO!!!!!!!!!! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Aithinne, I am officially your biggest fan. Can I carry your books? Wash your car?
Aithinne
QUOTE(karategrrl @ Nov 12 2009, 09:11 AM) *
LMFAO!!!!!!!!!! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Aithinne, I am officially your biggest fan. Can I carry your books? Wash your car?


Whatever, I was your biggest fan first. But then again, I live out in the country so my car is always dirty. Lol! laugh.gif
strongirl
I remember my grandmother, who was a wild flapper in the '20s, telling me about binding her breasts down in order to look slim and sophisticated and to fit into those way-cool dresses. When I tried on some of those dresses from an old trunk of hers when I was in my own twenties, they fit me perfectly and she said "Oh, I would have killed to have your perfect figure when I was that age!"

Buttercups, you do look like a porn star, some of the ones listed in here recently have little to no surrounding breast tissue. And they, and I'm sure you, are hawt!!!

Along that line, when you guys mentioned Melissa Ashley, I looked up her website to check her out but used my bf's computer rather than my work laptop. Recently he came upon the link when he was checking back on some stuff he'd done and opened it. He was so struck by her that he asked me the next day if the link was there from me since he didn't recognize it but apparently once he got there he spent some time because he now wants to check out some of her pay features together and I suspect he jo'd over her cuz I didn't get any that night. Her tag line is "the tiniest titties on the 'net". Love that!
spot-on
Ok I'm back. Had to take a little boobie break. Had some body issues come up last week and I spiralled into depression etc for about 48 hours. Ironically it all stemmed from my bra shopping trip! Having a well fitting bra after spending almost 15 years in sports tops was quite a shock. At a 34B/32C I tried on both bra's and the *32 in the style I chose seemed to fit better. Well I suddenly had boobs (still small, but bigger than I was ever used to) and ended up forever feeling like it just wasn't right and because I am active I'd be adjusting it, whether it needed it or not. I know a lot of it was in my head. I switched back to sports tops and felt better. I need to make the adjustment gradually it seems. I'm starting out by only wearing the bra at night.

Kind of ironic considering I bought the bras to feel better about myself and give me a bit more self/body confidence.




*yet in other styles the B fit better, it really does depend a lot on the style of bra huh?
strongirl
You know a big boob girl who I absolutely can't resist? Dolly Parton. She's been in the press some lately, I watched an interview with her in Nashville at the Grand Old Opry House, and boy, she is just as genuine, self-deprecating, and sweet a person as one can possibly be . She's completely fake looks-wise but she's not defensive about it - she says "It takes a lot of money to look this cheap!" If more people in the world had her kind and light-hearted perspective, life would be much much better and more fun. So I'm trying to channel my inner Dolly - kind, funny, and light but without the boobs, hair, and gallons of makeup. Ommm.....




Aithinne
I like Dolly too- she seems to be nobody's fool.


On a side note, a few days ago I was getting nekkie for a soak in the bathtub and saw myself in the mirror. I think I'm really starting to believe whole-heartedly that my boobies are perfect and purdy the way they are. I was very pleased to look in the mirror and enjoy the reflection. So there's my positive boobie story for the day.. tongue.gif
nbdx0645
Aithinne, that's so wonderful to hear. smile.gif It made me smile. PS: I went to a concert this weekend and wore a cute fitted tee with a thin bralette underneath...and that didn't stop a guy from pulling me out on the dance floor. Yayee. I had so much fun.
spot-on
I like Dolly Parton too. She doesn't pretend that she hasn't has work done and like you said Strongirl she's totally light-hearted about it all, great personality! What I think her sex appeal is, again we've mentioned it before, CONFIDENCE. She has it in buckets and you can tell. She positively oozes it.

Aithinne, that is awesome news girl! Glad you are liking your boobies!

nbdx - yay you go girl!

Small boobs rock!
nbdx0645
Urban Outfitters has a new triangle-style bralette available online:
http://www.urbanoutfitters.com/urban/catal...;navAction=jump

I just picked up the blush and turquoise colors. It's cheap and pretty smile.gif Most of their bralettes have a mesh linining in them which helps subdue your hi-beams. Your nips will be a bit noticeable if you're wearing light-colored, tight-fitting clothing.

Also, another note on their bralettes: the Camellia line has seaming that bisects the breast...so if you're wearing tight tees, those seams will show. The Lana line does not have that design 'flaw'. From a purely aesthetic standpoint, the Camellia line has a much more beautiful lace pattern. Even if you wear padded bras all the time, it might be something nice for around the house. They are super-light on support. I'm very tiny and I still get a bit of a jiggle-wiggle if I jump in them.
spot-on
oooh that's very pretty! Thanks for the heads up!
buttercups
Ugh Busties, I lost the battle with my body again last night. This is the week after my period so any little boobage I got from my pill is now gone and I'm back to...well being less than a AA I guess. My bf wanted to have sex and he has performance anxiety so this was kind of like a first for him being more of the aggressor and I freaked out at him seeing my body and ruined it. I feel like the more I try to accept myself the further I move away from acceptance. I just can't for the life of me see myself as sexy in this little tiny body, I see myself as a little girl and a disappointment to my bf, who will never touch real boobs again if he stays with me. I know this is so negative, but it's what I've been struggling with lately. And the problem has moved from my boobs to everywhere else. I now see my shortness as being unsexy, my stubby legs, my belly thats too big for such a small frame, my childish face that never looks pretty to me no matter what I do to it- how much makeup I wear or how I style my hair. I know I'm being too hard on myself and that I'm way too much of a perfectionist when it comes to judging myself. I'm not perfect, I'm never going to be, but I have trouble accepting how far away from perfect I really am. I know my bf's not perfect, but at least he's fully developed and looks like a man, you can't dispute that. There's nothing little boy about him at 6' and 190 lbs. I feel selfish for keeping him in a relationship with me when he could be with someone pretty who looks like a woman. Haha I know you ladies are going to have it out for me with this post, but I guess I'm hoping you'll all smack me back into shape. Why is it that everyone else can get over this and I'm still struggling? I know I should see a therapist or something and just get over it, but I'm way too embarrassed to talk about this and I know I never will be able to. Just seems that taking on such a negative body image on my own isn't really working. I have days where I feel more confident than most and feel like I can take it on, but I always end up back here. Maybe it's because I really am smaller than everyone else and I've just found it hard to relate to people being upset with B cups and things I can only dream of having with silicone pumped in my body ( not to diss my B cup girls I know you struggle too). Bah. Give me a big old smack out of this self-pity ladies, I can take it!
treehugger
hey buttercups,

here's an ever so gentle smack upside the head.

If your boyfriend wasn't happy with you he. wouldn't. be. there. Period.

Any woman, ANY woman, regardless of boob size, if she carries herself well and she is PROUD of herself, will attract eyes, I swear!! One of the most gorgeous women I know is an AA. And she turns heads and men drool and some women too, and, she is HOT and she knows it and her boobs become secondary. People are looking at her eyes, because they are confident. They are looking at her lips, because they are self-confidently smiling. And if they look at her boobs, well, they just fit her!

Do NOT judge yourself. If for nothing else, because if you FEEL inadequate, you will radiate that to the outer world. And then they will see you as inadequate, because unconsciously you are carrying yourself, walking, treating yourself like you should be an apology!

Your body is a thing of beauty. It can give pleasure, it can cause pain, it is a miraculous thing. It is yours to do what you want. And if you choose to hate it, to denigrate it because your breasts aren't as large as you think they should be? Yeah, here's another thwack on the head (ever so gentle, of course.)

The world is a better place for you, Buttercups. Do. Not. Forget. That.

Ever so lovingly and fellow small breastedly,

TH
buttercups

Wow Treehugger, that was the best smack ever. Anytime I feel this self-deprecation coming on again I'm going to read over your post, you are absolutely right and I want to try so hard to internalize everything you said. Thank you so so much * hug *

<3 buttercups


starship
just doing my regular skim and couldnt resist a quick post to buttercups. By the sounds of it id love to have a body like yours! the main thing i dislike about my AAs is that i dont feel like they fit in with the rest of my body- but if i had a tiny petite frame like yours id feel far more happy about them and alot less freakish. only yesterday i was talking to a petite girl in work about how jealous i was of her being only 5ft tall with a tiny frame to match (she of course said the opposite and admired my height lol- typical). Im not that tall or anything but i still always envy my smaller friends. anyway, im 100% positive even without knowing you that your bf finds you hot. lots of guys i know have told me they love women with figures like yours- and no, they werent dodgy sorts with a schoolgirl fetish. i think they find it sexy (thats right, sexy) because they get to feel all manly and protective. It sounds like your bf has sex issues of his own anyway so if anything hes probably worrying more about that than what your boobs look like. I totally understand your body issues- i could tell you something i dislike about every single part of my body- but just wanted to say that you sound completely gorgeous to me and are probably hot as hell

oh, and how annoying is the post-period boob deflation:(. every single month i get excited that maybe this time its for keeps & im finally starting to grow then...bam byebye boobies. sighh when will i learn

spot-on i lovedd the story about your grandma & her flapper dresses:D

The other day my mother said how she definatly thought a partic celeb had had a boobjob and when i said she hadnt (i thought it was clearly just a pair of nice sized natural boobs with a decent push-up bra) she was like 'no she's definately had them done, its part of her job, they all get it done to look good and sexy in all the costumes & dresses they have to wear, it makes them look better' etc etc etc. i cant remember her exact words but i know i found them quite cutting... i did better this time and managed to tell her i disagree (as opposed to my usual reaction of sitting silently in utter disbelief). geez mum. she'd probably try to buy me 'better' boobs if she could.
you guys are my positive female rolemodel when it comes to body issues.
angie_21
buttercups, I don't want to smack you lol. yes it is good to talk, and it is good to let those feelings out, and that is one of the reasons we are here. We're also here to tell you, you don't have to feel this way about yourself. But here's what I want you to do:

think about how you are feeling, and why. think about the things that trigger these thoughts, when they happen to you, and how your thought patterns spiral or crash into this kind of self-anger. if you need to, write it down to help yourself see the pattern. Try to avoid the things that trigger you, or to at least recognize them so that you will be able to consciously stop them from hurting you as much.

second, realise that it is OK and normal to have days when you just feel crappy about how you look. everyone has those days, I do, and often the reasons for my physical self esteem to go in the toilet are actually connected to anxiety about other things happening in my life. when I feel good, I also feel good about my body, and it's also easy to realize that it doesn't matter what my body looks like anyways. when I feel bad, or when I've just done something stupid, it's easy to tear apart my actions, my clothing choices, my thoughts and my stomach/breasts/weird eyebrows. It does happen, but the key is to recognize that you're feeling this way, and then let it go. Move on. You're judging yourself twice by first judging your size and then also judging your own feelings.

And thirdly, *slap* silly girl, you are beautiful, I know you're smart, and I know you're very sweet. Don't let the world get you down! You can and do have so much! Believe me, not all guys want a girl with gozongas. They just don't. The things you are letting yourself believe are not true, so don't let size be your scale for judging yourself, your beauty, or your value to the world.
spot-on
I had a reply but then TH said everything so perfectly I was just repeating so yeah Ditto what she said smile.gif

*gentle slap upside the head*

I know how you feel, I was there a week ago and have just started to come back to "loving me land". It's much nicer on there rather than "depression city". My boobs rock.

Seriously I am convinced that 80% of my self image issues are clothing related. I've been totally wearing the wrong clothes and wondering why I got depressed! I need to clear out my closet of anything not "junior style" and go from there. I've come to the conclusion that clothing can make or break our body image so I am making myself over. I tried on some tops today, tube type tops, and they look f'ing Great on our body shape! There was also a fitted dress same style and that looked good too! Like TH said I just felt more confident in what I was wearing and my posture changed and so I thought I looked better. In 'womens' clothing/tops the chest area sags where I don't fill it, then the waist is all flapping. In Juniors the chest area fits and the waist is tapered. I fill out a blouse in the juniors - I have never filled out a blouse, but the juniors FITS, it's more fitted across the bust area so it looks fuller because it's smaller rather than gaping smile.gif

On a side note I have been "checked out" a few times within the past week by guys
spot-on
Wow Starship I hate to say this but does your Mom have body issues herself? It seems like she isn't supportive of you at all, and often saying stuff like this when you are around. They don't ALL get it done at all! Look at all the small busted celebs we've posted here recently and know about

Mila Jovovich
Ali Larter
Keirra Knightly (like the #2 earning actress last year I believe so it isn't hurting her any with her small boobs!)
Cameron Diaz
Paris Hilton
Nicole Richie
Michelle Pfieffer
Julia Styles
Debra Messing
Kate Hudson
Clare Danes
Charleze Theron
Selma Blair
Gwynth Paltrow
Sarah Michelle Geller
Kirsten Dunst
Gwen Steffani (though ballooned during preg)
porn stars mentioned here recently
etc

Clothes are meant to look better on smallies that's why they use small chested models to model them!

It is so hard to tell now though whether someone has or hasn't had fluff bags added, esp with the newer push up increase your boobs 2 cup sizes bra's. Unless the celebs are naked or not wearing much I doubt we'd really know! Some implants are obviously fake, some not so much. Most of the 'normal' size ones though are just push up bra's I think.


QUOTE(starship @ Nov 20 2009, 04:40 PM) *
The other day my mother said how she definatly thought a partic celeb had had a boobjob and when i said she hadnt (i thought it was clearly just a pair of nice sized natural boobs with a decent push-up bra) she was like 'no she's definately had them done, its part of her job, they all get it done to look good and sexy in all the costumes & dresses they have to wear, it makes them look better' etc etc etc. i cant remember her exact words but i know i found them quite cutting... i did better this time and managed to tell her i disagree (as opposed to my usual reaction of sitting silently in utter disbelief). geez mum. she'd probably try to buy me 'better' boobs if she could. you guys are my positive female rolemodel when it comes to body issues.

nbdx0645
Buttercups, I really hope you're feeling better. I've totally been there with the "sex meltdown" thing. I'd get so nervous and upset I'd run off and apologize for the way I looked. If you feel like a professional opinion would help you develop a plan of action, you should go for it. Sometimes real life can feel insurmountable, but we're here for you. This might sound a bit rough, but we all know there are people out there who think that we should get "some D's slapped on us" ...but there are many, many people that want your breasts, and scour the internet looking for small boobs. (Delicious Flat Chest, tiny ta-ta's, adorable assets) To some, our breast size will be out of their 'ideal zone.' To others, we're in the 'goldilocks zone' (they're juuust right.)

I do agree with Spot-on. Bad clothes will RUIN YOUR DAY.

I don't have a full grasp on my own issues. I get very nervous when I'm around new people, and like starship, I get really wishy-washy when I am dealing with other stressors. Sometimes I feel like I'd be able to ingratiate better with larger breasts. I wish I could check "tittyfuck" off my to-do list. I've never heard that I have great boobs from my partners (without me soliciting for compliments) and that used to get me down. I try to relate the preferences other people have to my preferences with men. It is assumed that girls like muscle-men, but I do not. I like something different from the perceived norm. It doesn't make me weird, and it doesn't make that other person weird for not following after every body else. I really and truly believe that many guys (and girls) are telling us the truth. I also understand it's not just about validation...but it's something to think about. I also think they get tired of re-assuring us that we have very desirable tits, and the only reason why many of them want to change our breasts is because they see how much shame and sadness we go through.

I feel so much better since I joined this forum. It gave me a new perspective. I thought I was hopeless about all this. I hope this post helped. Please, don't be your worst enemy.
anna k
Buttercups, I agree with everyone here. You sound like a charming, beautiful young woman, so smart and funny and intriguing.

nbdx0645, I get nervous around new people too. I smile and act confident and engaged, but feel like inside they can sense my shy nerdiness, so I try to cover it up with brevity and confidence.

QUOTE
On a side note I have been "checked out" a few times within the past week by guys


Woo-hoo, spot on!

Tree, that was such a great post. I wholeheartedly agree. When you have confidence, you have power, and just become magnetic and irresistable.
enfermera
buttercups, just wanted to add my two cents. YOU HAVE REAL BOOBS. even at less than a AA cup, they are both real, and boobs. they are yours, and i bet they are beautiful, even if you don't always think so. if you went and got implants, then your boyfriend DEFINITELY wouldn't be touching real boobs. also this: you DO look like a woman, because you ARE a woman. from the way you describe yourself, petite with a rounded tummy, to me you sound like the fertile-looking, feminine ideal that thin, gangly people like myself (which is how i feel on MY bad days) can only dream of.

and like tree said, your bf wouldn't be around if he didn't find you attractive.

i think we all could benefit from working on stopping those negative thoughts before they run away with us. on the other hand, look at how far you've come! when you first started posting here (yeah, i was lurking for a looooooong time before i ever made a profile) you seemed to have almost NO positive self-image, at least in regards to your breasts, and if i remember correctly, these meltdowns happened with much more frequency. you've really done a lot of work since then, and made a lot of progress! don't be discouraged, babe. everyone has days like these. keep your chin up, and don't rule out therapy, you might find yourself ready for it some day.
angie_21
yes, exactly what enfemera said! Just remember, don't be too hard on yourself for how you feel, because that's how bad feelings snowball into a bit of a meltdown. Enfemera, I'm only 5'7 but it's all in my legs and I think I'd still feel gangly if I was 300 pounds. But while I'm being clumsy and tripping over things and feeling funny looking, everyone else is telling me how jealous they are of my long legs. It's a funny world.

I meant to comment on this earlier, starship, but you seem so smart and so sweet and I am so happy you are able to ignore what your mom says. It must get so aggravating. Like sport on said though, your mom is wrong about celebrities, but people choose to see what they want to believe sometimes. It sounds like your mom wants to believe these celebrities are all fake. to a certain extent it's true, but even as much as we complain about it, there's a lot of physical variation even in the very limited movie/fashion world. I think it's a much more valid complaint that there's still so little ethnic and cultural variation in today's entertainment industry, but that's for another discussion. but it's just too bad that your mom keeps pushing her own insecurities onto you.

(sorry if my language offends anyone, but I think we're all grown ups here and I do feel stongly about this.... ) One thing that is true, is that it is those celebrities "job" to look beautiful 24/7, but it sure the fuck isn't my job, so why should I try to do the same thing? I'm not getting paid to look good - or at least, "good" in the way that they look. I think I look just fine myself. They get paid to look "beautiful" in magazine ads for hair dye and make-up and perfume, but I have to pay to try to look like them. It's celebrities jobs to sell us that body image so that we will covet a certain way of appearance and pay money for it. Well fuck that.
spot-on
I actually think the reason I've been checked out a few times this past week is my confidence went up, I carried myself differently, felt good in the clothes I wore and that just radiated out. I think I smile more to myself when I am feeling more confident in myself and that attracts attention also.

One thing I've started doing recently is when I see a woman who I think looks good, I tell them! We women don't hear it often enough from other women! I've told two women in the last couple of days that they look pretty in what they were wearing (they had great tops on). One was small chested, one not, both looked great in the clothes they were wearing. They could be a bustie for all I know, they could have depression issues, I like to think I made their day a little happier and made them feel better about themselves, even if just for 5 minutes smile.gif It's my new mission. Plus it helps my own self confidence, actually approaching strangers in an intimate fashion outside my usual comfort zone. My gameplan is to also compliment small boobed ladies that I admire and think look good when I see them rather than just looking in awe at their hotness! Imagine if it were one of us and we didn't know. Or they didn't know how hot they looked! All women have insecurities whatever their boob size, hair color, or body shape. If I can help them feel better then great! Pay it forward I say!
spot-on
See though Angie this is part of the problem. The celebs in films and ads etc look NOTHING like that in real life! In films they adapt lighting, make up etc to flatter the celebs, in ads and mags there is photoshop! If anyone has checked out photoshopdisasters.blogspot.com they'll know of the stuff I talk about. Where celebs are airbrushed within an inch of their life, where size 4 models are made to look thinner and taller beyond all recognition of a real human woman (ralph lauren ad)! Celebs are given flawless skin, thinner bodies, bigger boobs, more fuller hair, whiter teeth and eyes and goodness knows what else!

For those wondering the power of photoshop check out these links:

Mad PS skills: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kd1VV9caAYk

Celebs before and after: http://www.hemmy.net/2007/05/25/celebritie...fter-photoshop/
more before/after: http://current.com/1n8hm4c

and the dove one naturally
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcFlxSlOKNI...feature=related

What we see as an end result isn't what the people look like IRL. No wonder women have a distorted body image when we're competing with artificial breasts and artificial images that the media portrays! I'd like to go back in time and uninvent photoshop and implants, I think the world was a happier place then!


QUOTE(angie_21 @ Nov 21 2009, 08:32 AM) *
One thing that is true, is that it is those celebrities "job" to look beautiful 24/7, but it sure the fuck isn't my job, so why should I try to do the same thing? I'm not getting paid to look good - or at least, "good" in the way that they look. I think I look just fine myself. They get paid to look "beautiful" in magazine ads for hair dye and make-up and perfume, but I have to pay to try to look like them. It's celebrities jobs to sell us that body image so that we will covet a certain way of appearance and pay money for it. Well fuck that.

buttercups
Thank you so much ladies, you really don't know how much you are my life-line. All of your words mean so much to me and I really do think of them often and remember everything you say. You Busties have changed my life for the better and really make me want to work hard towards changing how I think about myself, so for that I can't thank you enough.

Starship, you sound amazingly hot to me. I'm always surprised at how much the grass is always greener and how we all seem to want something we don't have. For me I would love to be bigger and taller and have small boobs. I've always thought that if I wasn't this size then at least people would know I was a grown adult haha. I've seen a lot of taller, small breasted girls and I am always envious of them! My brother-in-law's cousin is not this itty bitty petite short girl and almost has breasts as small as me and I look at her in awe because she is absolutely stunning, as I know you are too. Everything falls so beautifully on her frame and not once would you look at her and not find her to be a gorgeous woman. Men fall all over themselves for her, so I guess I've always thought that some extra inches and a bigger bone structure would do wonders for me. But thank you so much for your kind words and you should know that there are plenty of girls (me definitely included) who would love to look like you! I also want to say congrats on speaking up when your mom said that about the celebrity. God I can completely relate to how you feel when she says things like that. My mom is definitely into looks and we can't even sit through a whole tv show together without her commenting on everyone's body. I think it's really great you stood up to her instead of staying silent, hopefully she will get the message soon that her comments are hurtful. Maybe we can give our mothers a lesson of their own. I've already decided that if I have a daughter I'm definitely going to tell her that she's beautiful, but I'm not going to fixate on her looks either and I'm going to make sure she knows that there is much more to her than her appearance. And the one thing I am never going to do is act insecure or comment negatively about my body around my daughter. My mom has always said bad things about herself around me, and still does even though I told her to stop, and it makes me feel worse about myself whenever I hear her call herself fat or whatever else she says. We can definitely be different for our daughters and instill positive messages. whoa..what a rant!

Angie21, that is so insightful I will definitely take your suggestion and try to write down where those feelings are coming from. I too have noticed that I feel worse about my body when I am stressed or when things just aren't going right. It's like I take all of my anger and frustrations out on this poor body. Thank you so much for being so encouraging, you really make me consider things differently.

Spot-on, you are so adorable and uplifting. You are really sweet to try to say nice things to everyone, I know you really made those girls' day like you make mine : ) And of course you're getting checked out, I can tell from your fantastic personality that you are one hot commodity!

Nbdx0645, I can really relate to you. A lot of your posts definitely remind me of myself. You are so sweet, thank you so much. I know you're right that not all women like the same thing ( I'm not into muscle men myself haha) so why should we think that all men are? The "sex meltdown" is awful and I really hope that you aren't experiencing that anymore. Getting wonderful posts from people like you is really going to help me keep those feelings at bay.

Anna K, you are always so sweet and I can tell you are such a kind-hearted, warm person. Anyone would be lucky to have a friend like you and I hope that everyone in your life appreciates you as much as us Busties do.

Enfermera, thank you so much for being so encouraging. I have felt like I've been failing a lot lately at defeating this problem, but you really made me re-think that. Thank you for noticing a change in me and for making me feel like I have made some progress and I can keep going. It really means a lot.

I don't know where I would be without this forum, but I think I can say with some certainty it would not be pretty. All of you are an inspiration to me and I hope I can get over this and help some other girls just like you've all been helping me. You all rock!

<3 always, buttercups
anna k
spot on, those photos pre-Photoshop usually make me feel good to see. I like seeing that the stars have wrinkles, bags under their eyes, freckles, softness in various body places, and this more human and natural look than what ends up in the finished photo. Some look tired in the pictures, so I can see why they'd clean them up, but it's refreshing to see some ladies with lumps and bumps and spots.

buttercups, I love reading your posts, you're so insightful and interesting and special. Thank you so much for your kind words, it really touched me.
Aithinne
This is why I totally loved Jamie Lee Curtis' photoshoot when she was photographed exactly how she looks. It's so refreshing to see something real in the media. Props to women in the media who are the real "what you see is what you get" types.
spot-on
Yep I loved that article too Aithinne. It just really bugs me when women hold themselves to a standard that isn't achievable because it isn't real. Unless you go for extreme repeated plastic surgery it's not going to happen. They are taking thin models and making them thinner? WTF? Unless women are going to have ribs removed it's just not happening naturally! Almost every photo we see is photoshopped in some way, whether just lighting, evening out skin tones or the digital implants, teeth whitening, and instant diet, etc In that article Jamie Curtis said it took 13 people THREE HOURS to make her look that way!!! Yeah and THEN they'd photoshop the photo after! Wow! No wonder women have body issues sad.gif
angie_21
((buttercups)) like enfemera said, you're doing great!

Sport-on, it's even worse now that they have the budgets to photoshop movies not just for special effects, but also for people's appearances. My guy says he hates watching high budget movies these days because the actresses are hot, but they're so photoshopped it's like you're watching a cartoon and you're supposed to think it's sexy (also he hates the movies because well, they just generally suck, but this was a reason too lol). He always prefers the girls in the old style movies where every girl actually looked different, and you were supposed to see her personality. yes, that's right, he's a guy and he thinks personality is more important to attractiveness than physical looks. gasp. I just wish there weren't all the other people out there who do buy into that stuff. Also, I loooove PS disasters! so funny.

well last night I went out after writing an exam I've been studying for weeks to write, and decided to celebrate. I went straight after the exam, no make up, no push-up bra, and still wearing my t-shirt and sneakers, but still ended up with a guy at the bar asking for my number. I also discovered I'm a lot older than I used to be, because I used to be just entertained and flattered by the guys who try to dance too close, and now I just feel awkward and a bit annoyed. Honestly, a girl can't dance with her friends without it being assumed she's just waiting for a guy to come up and grind with her? and to think I used to roll my eyes when some of my friends complained about this 5 years ago.
angie_21
spot-on, I just looked at the first set of before and after photos, and I have to say, why one earth did they airbrush away those girls' beautiful freckles?! that is just kinda sad.
spot-on
Yay Angie for getting hit on! I do find that there is a big portion of men that like the natural and athletic look so it doesn't surprise me on bit that they found you attractive! It sounded like you were comfortable in what you were wearing and probably feeling confident because of that, and relaxed after finishing the exam! You go girl!

Yep movies are just insane now, not only with the make-up, lighting etc but now with photoshop. It's crazy. There are laws going through in the UK to try and stop PS on ads aimed at minors, and to disclose PS on other ads. It's kinda ironic to me that ads for wrinkle creams etc have the wrinles PS'd out of the models. So not right and I am totally agreeing that something needs to be done. More awareness of PS and before and after photo sites will help but we need full disclosure of the stuff that is done on ads so young girls realize what they are looking at isn't real.

they brush out the freckles cos we're all meant to have perfect flawless skin, be blonde with big boobs, have full hair, no wrinkles, and nothing out of the ordinary. Which would make us all stepford women! I am far from that thank heavens!

starship
I know my mothers wrong that all celebs get it done and i know that if I can make some sort of cleavage then it's not gonna be hard for someone with a natural b-c cup to do it, heck ive seen for myself paris hilton's boobs going up and down like nobodys business. She didnt seem to believe me though. i dunno what issues she has herself but shes alwayss commenting on peoples breasts- seriously, if we're talking about a photo of someone or an outfit theyre wearing or even just someone we havent seen for a while, its always the boobs she seems to remark on. drives me insane. and the worst thing is is that i know there are other people out there who think like her too (regarding her stance on boobjobs as a necessity). I mean, just look at this article from today- http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/tvshowbiz/ar...-cut-dress.html ...the way it says she wears low tops 'despite' her small chest, as though she should be busting out the polo-neck all year round cos theres nothing to see here folks. and how it focuses on the fact that she hasnt had breast enlargement yet like its a suprise that she didnt head to the surgeons office with her first paycheck and get it sorted pronto. This whole kind of attitude reminds me exactly of the things my mother says and how she thinks. Even when it's not said outright theres all these underlying implications and assumptions. I think my she's just another sad victim of the media, swallowing everything they churn out without even questioning it.

some of the photoshop stuff you've all been talking about actually suprised me. I looked on one of youtube the links that spot-on gave and ended up watching lots of 'related' videos showing photoshop transformations of perfectly normal women into oversexualised non-human creations. probably videos made by the same sort of desperate guys who sit at home getting off over anime porn (no offence to anyone who's into anime porn unsure.gif ). the end results were literally just cartoons and i expected to read lots of comments saying how ridiculous it was but instead there were plenty of pwoars and wows and other comments to the general efffect of 'my, what a great improvement youve made there'. sometimes i feel like banging my head against the desk. or perhaps just someone elses head. I think overtime things are only gonna get worse for 'normal' women in this sense, like youve all pointed out with the photoshopped movies n stuff- things are getting crazy and some people are completely losing a grip of reality, because they hardly ever get to see it!

Buttercups I agree with everyone who's said youve come really far and made loads of progress! everyone has bad days, I usually just come on here to talk it through with these wise women and let out all my insecurities, then put it to the back of my mind and try hard not to let it consume all my thoughts. Im totally with you buttercups on the 'if i have a daughter..' thing. ill definately be learning from my mothers mistakes and i think that because ive had these issues and ended up talking to you guys ive become so much more educated on the issue of body image and learnt so much. hope i dont sound like a traitor here though, but i really hope any daughters dont get thier boobs from me. i mean, no matter how supportive id be i still wouldnt be able to hide them from all the boob-orientated media out there and they'd probably end up going through a similar sort of battle as most of us have done. Have any of you busties had daughters and had to deal with these issues with them?

I saw the episode of Will&Grace this morning where grace gets a water bra to impress some guy she thinks is only into boobs and ends up springing leaks all other place biggrin.gif. i love watching that show. it's nice to see that 'one of us' can poke fun at herself and still stand proud and confident (and braless) afterwards, totally unfazed

angie-21 you're awesome:)
as are all you ladies:)smile.gif
nbdx0645
Hey Starship, I feel you. I think Kate Hudson's dress is very pretty on her, and she looks presentable for an awards ceremony. That's exactly how I would look in that dress, too. It really bothers me that they chose the worst photo of her as the article's cover-shot. She's a very pretty girl. I also can't stand the way they write about small breasts. She handles the talk so well. She's my hero! It's celebrities like her who are helping out women from doing harm. I posted a comment on that site, giving my opinion.

As for the wrath of moms, I go out of my way to make myself ooze confidence. When I see her, I wear my bralette with a pretty shirt. Then, I turn up the charm and the smiles. She'll stare at my chest the entire time, and make some well-meaning compliments/advice, and I don't listen to her at all. No acknowledgement,no back-talk, nothing. She says what she wants to say and goes "you know?" "...you know?" "....I'm just trying to help, you know?" And I'll just smile. When she changes the topic, that's when I start talking again. It's my way of standing firm about my decision to refuse implants. I refuse to let her see me sad. Because if she sees me sad she says she'll call up her old doctor and pay for my consultation, or some other BS. What helps me out the most is to flash my well-endowed smile. But it can be hard sometimes, to see such disapproval. It's the only way I can get her to STFU.

She might push harder, my mom got me a VS gift card and (in front of my boyfriend) said "You can get a nice push-up bra, they make the best ones" and I said "I can't fit into VS bras" (they don't stock AA's at their store, from what I've seen they're online only) "...but I can get a ton of super-cute undies and fragrance" *Thumbs up from the boyfriend accompanied by a big smile" Every 'negative' is made positive. And the best part is that it will make you feel better because you're 1.) standing up to a bully and 2.) you're using positive reinforcement.

I run into the frustrating issue of my boyfriend having larger 'breasts' than me. I've had this issue twice before. One used it to his advantage when we broke up and told all his buddies. The other didn't care at all and thought I have a great body. When my boyfriend lays on his side in bed he has 'cleavage.' I don't even have cleavage by laying on my side! If I try to push my breasts together, I have a long, skinny little 'hill' where the 'valley is supposed to be'. So, for me, it's boob ---> skin bump ---> boob. I can't help but stare at his chest at night. So...jealous...

Has anybody else had this issue? My current BF isn't heavy like the other two...it's because he's got great pecs. I really don't mean to make such long posts.
strongirl
Wow, too many great posts in here to even digest properly! What an incredible, intelligent, insightful group of powerful women y'all are!!!!

It's almost like there's a phenomenon in this forum where amazing women have attracted other amazing women and now we've got this rockin' group that's just in a synergistic groove! I stand back in awe.

nbdx, my bf also has great pecs and more lying down cleavage than I do. And I also get that in-between skin ridge you describe, when I'm at my low boobage times of the month. But neither my bf nor I are bothered by any of this. We both like our own and each other's stuff, so it's all good. I doubt your bf has any issues with it, so you should just let it go. Poof! Good-bye, silly issue.

Spot-on, YAY! for you on pointing out how good it is to compliment other women. I do it too and I love it when it is done to me. It can help one make a HUGE mental shift from viewing other women as "competitors" to viewing them as our sisters and friends. It's such a great thing to do, not just to make someone else feel good but for your own mental health as well, to come from a position of generosity and kindness.

On the photoshopping, a while back I saw some study where they hooked men up to MRI's and showed that men's brains reacted to looking at photos of models in bikini's as if they were looking at inanimate objects. The article was basically saying "see, men view women as sex objects". But when I mentioned it to my bf, he disagreed and said that maybe the reason they reacted that way is that the women had been implanted and photoshopped to the point that they WERE inanimate objects! That on some level, the men realize that these women are not real and their brain waves reflect that. I thought that was a very interesting point.





spot-on
nbdx - good for you for standing up to your Mom! And yay for new undies smile.gif

cleavage - um yeah, put me down as a skinny boob bump "cleavage". I *can* get my boobs to touch, IF I lie down on my side with my arms in certain positions (otherwise the lower one sinks into my armpit the joys of aging!). But seriously it's not a very sexy position to be in and very unnatural looking! Also if your ex had bigger boobs than you then that just means he was fat *sticks tongue out and blows raspberry* Ha! Take that Fatty! When my man puts on weight he gets moobs (man boobs) and we've laughed that his were bigger than mine. They were but they also sagged and had no shape. And hello you've put tons of weight on (car wreck, pain killers and no exercise while his back recovered)!

Kate Hudson - ok before that article I had total respect for her, but to hear she even thinks about implants both releives me and disgusts me at the same time. Conflicted here. I look up to women like her, it means I'm normal. It means I can acheive anything because here are these kick ass women making names for themselves with small boobies in a plastic world! I dunno, I really hope she doesn't get implants EVER. She's a roll model for millions of girls out there with small breasts, do you think celebs realize this when they fake themselves?

Starship - yep the photoshopping is totally out of hand, and yes they look like cartoons. But then thats what some women seriously look like now. With all the fake blonde hair, fake tan, fake enormous boobs, fake faces and more botox than Joan Rivers. Some of them look frankly ridiculous. I mean there is NO WAY some of these women have seen their belly buttons/coochie/feet in a long time other than looking in a mirror. And this is what young guys of today are jacking off to? No wonder girls have self esteem and body issues!

Also on an unrelated note, in that article starship posted did anyone look at Nicole Kidman? Wow can she not move her face anymore? Serious lift, peel and botox goin on there I think! I heard she had implants too, though can't tell from that pic. I thought she was a smallie though? Could be push up bra I guess

Strongirl - you BF forms an interesting point! But without knowing what part of the brain was stimulated by the images years ago we can't form a correlation either way. Maybe they've always reacted that way, or maybe it's a learned behavior due to the photoshopping and faking of women? Also I think it would depend on whether they were thinking of the women sexually or with a view to a relationship. men as we know tend to have problems controlling their sexual parts wink.gif so I think also there is some element of "don't think of her like that, you'll get an erection" so maybe that has something to do with it too? They are just stimulating a certain part of their brain in order not to get a hard on? Also on the flipside, if they've always had this stimulation of the brain (and we can't say for sure either way) then maybe it's a primal issue, we're meant to mate and men were ones to do the copulating with multiple women, perhaps it stems from that in order not to form multiple attachments?

Wow rambling and LONG post. I should be packing, lol!
angie_21
I agree, everyone here rocks wub.gif wish I could meet y'all in person, I'd love to buy you all a beer lol It's nice to be able to talk with so many girls who are supportive and fun, and smart too.

strongirl, do you have a link to that study? It doesn't make sense to me. I mean, I always thought that people responded to photos (of anything) differently than they responded to things in real life, so of course men would respond similarly to a photo of a woman as they would to a photo of whatever else, especially if it's a photo of a stranger. I also agree with your boyfriend's point. Men are subjected to advertising with women in skimpy outfits 24/7, and just because they may automatically respond a certain way to a photo of a woman in a sexual pose and semi-sexual outfit, doesn't mean they respond the same way to real women, in real life. Did they test how women react to photos of shirtless male models in tight jeans? Studies like that not only sell men short, they also give men an excuse to act stupid and treat women badly, so I hate it when scientists and the media sensationalize their work just to make it sexier or more controversial. spot-on, female chimps are just as promiscuous as male chimps, so the biological idea doesn't work... men have no excuse! or maybe women should just have more fun!
karategrrl
QUOTE(nbdx0645 @ Nov 24 2009, 01:09 AM) *
As for the wrath of moms, I go out of my way to make myself ooze confidence. When I see her, I wear my bralette with a pretty shirt. Then, I turn up the charm and the smiles. She'll stare at my chest the entire time, and make some well-meaning compliments/advice, and I don't listen to her at all. No acknowledgement,no back-talk, nothing. She says what she wants to say and goes "you know?" "...you know?" "....I'm just trying to help, you know?" And I'll just smile. When she changes the topic, that's when I start talking again. It's my way of standing firm about my decision to refuse implants. I refuse to let her see me sad. Because if she sees me sad she says she'll call up her old doctor and pay for my consultation, or some other BS. What helps me out the most is to flash my well-endowed smile. But it can be hard sometimes, to see such disapproval. It's the only way I can get her to STFU.

Grrl, I am so in awe of you. You are handling an exceptionally difficult situation with grace, strength and self-respect. Not to mention, I know there are lots of moms out there whose daughters want implants but they're (the moms) trying to do everything they can to discourage it. Most of the TV shows I've seen where girls get implants have shown the moms trying to talk them out of it. Not to diss your mom, but WTF!!!????

And sheet yeah, I wish we could all meet, like a smallie convention or something. Now that would be totally freaking awesome.

And one more random thought--I was totally getting off on the sight of my husband's mouth on my breast the other night. Good feeling.
Aithinne
I just wanted to wish everyone an early happy Thanksgiving, because I probably won't get around to getting online tomorrow.

I am certainly grateful for this haven of amazing women, and thank you all for being awesome!
buttercups
I second what Aithinne said, I am so thankful for all of you! Happy Thanksgiving!!
spot-on
Hi busties!
Back from a great vacation over thanksgiving, now cleaning and doing laundry and all that crap lol. Had a great time, didn't think about boobs hardly at all over the trip except where I was freezing my ass off in the morning and decided not to remove my t-shirt to put a bra on and went out to walk the dogs braless smile.gif Sure I had on a t-shirt, sweater and coat but hey the intention is there! Hope you all had a great thanksgiving!

KeraBear
Here's a question. About what stage in your life did you all become "aware" that you were gonna end up smaller than your peers? And when did it start to "bother" you? I was looking at old yearbook photos, which got me thinking about all this. Sooo many good memories of elementary school, but junior high was just the worst. Probably because while all the other girls started getting boobs, all i could manage was two puffy nipples. It wasn't until the summer between 8th and 9th that somebody could look at me (with clothes on) and say, "hey, little Kera is starting to get breasts". btw that happened to me at a family reunion. rolleyes.gif I've always had a bit of a complex about being seen as my age (now 17) and not a little girl. Certainly not helped by not getting my first period until i was 15. And the endless teasing from classmates about my booblets and being short. The problem was that for the longest time i associated having a chest and periods with being a woman. But i've come to the conclusion that being a woman is far more that just boobs and blood, it's a mentality. After all, i know 11-year-olds with both and i know i am way more woman than they are! So.... yeah... it's been a rough go for lil Kera since junior high. High school has gotten better for me since i've reached this realization. I just wish I could go have a time machine so that I could go back and talk some sense into junior high Kera. Gotta keep rocking these booblets with all i've got! Anyways, just thought I would share. You ladies have been AWESOME for me. Thanks.
strongirl
Hi Kera - It's funny, I didn't have any negative feelings about my small breasts until I was much older and big boobs and implants became so much more the "market standard" of what it means to be attractive. It wasn't really like that when I was your age (in the 1970's). Being thin was the ideal and going braless was the fashion, so as a slender girl with small, pert breasts I thought I was quite lucky!

The only time I ever really felt dissatisfied was about 10 years ago when the big boob thing really started to reach absurd levels and it warped my head along with everyone else's standards. At that time I started thinking about implants...but when I did the research and started seeing "before and after" pics, I found that I liked the "befores" better! Then I learned about all the complications and problems that can happen (including the fact that about 1/3 of all women with implants had to have a repeat or corrective surgery within 3 years) and I went, uh, no thanks.

strongirl
So now it's my turn for a question to all of you.

Has anyone dealt with having bad posture and been successful at improving it? If so, what did you do to make it better? I want specifics - specific exercises, or techniques, or gadgets (a corset?), etc. I need to do something.

My posture sucks, mostly due to the fact that I've spent most of my waking hours working on a computer for the past 3 decades. I think not only my breasts but my whole body would look better if I could improve it in a lasting manner, plus I'm worried it's going to become more of a health problem as I age. The best its ever been was when I did yoga and maybe I should just get back into that but I'm interested in all and any suggestions.

Thanks in advance!
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