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karategrrl
Miscellaneous thaoughts:

-I forgot who posted about the movie "The Runaways." Saw it last night and it was awesome. Small tits and all!

-Another movie I saw recently: the documentary Good Hair." Okay, it's about African-American hair, not breasts, but I really learned a lot! African-American women go through serious dilemmas in regard to their hair because straighter, relaxed hair is regarded as "better" in our society. They go to all sorts of crazy efforts and EXPENSE to get it, and all along the way, other people (natural hair "weave" suppliers, hair product manufacturers, salon owners, etc.) are getting rich for the women trying to "fix" this "problem." (Like breast implants? Hmm?)

Women want to men to like their hair, want to feel they can be competitive in the workplace, etc.--and feel they can't compete unless they have "good hair" which, of course, is NOT the hair they were born with. There are so many parallels in this movie to the breast size/implant issue. I highly recommend this film. I came away wanting to run up to every woman with a weave and liberate her and encourage her to embrace her god-given, natural, beautiful hair. I remember the '70s, and people walking around with natural Afros. I haven't seen an Afro in decades! WTF!! Afros are natural, as are small breasts. Nowadays people get weaves (other people's hair woven onto your head--it's really freakish to see) and water bags implanted under their chests to look "good." And this is progress? WTF is wrong with all of us? Okay, enough on that topic!

-Limousine, we've all benefited from your post. Thanks for de-lurking! It really opened my eyes to what goes on inside when you have BDD. I really like your positive affirmations--it's very good for everyone to think good thoughts, whether they have BDD or not.

-Yes, it is infuriating and frustrating beyond belief to see TEENS with big tits. I admit it drives me nuts, especially when you see a bit of pretty bra peeking out--the type which I either can't find in my size or I feel looks dumb on me anyway.

-I also feel insecure when it comes to my man meeting my great-looking or well-endowed friends, especially since his staring his been an issue with us--not just with women with big breasts but just in general. He has that staring affliction that affects so many men ( I call it MSS--Male Staring Syndrome) though I must say he's improved, at least in my presence.

Funny story on the above, though--I recently made a friend who's a total cutie and who has good-sized breasts. A bunch of us went out to see a band this weekend. This friend was there. Before the set, she told me she had a thing for the lead singer. She proceeded to dance around in front of the stage all night. Of course, I was concerned about my hubby being a little too interested in her bouncing tits, but I decided not to let it ruin my evening. The next day he commented and I realized that he'd noticed, but not in the way I thought he might: He said it was totally obvious the way she was trying to get the singer's attention (I had not told him this so he totally picked up on it himself) and he noticed because she was like, (his words): "Tits! Tits! Look at my tits!!" Bwahahahaha!

-One final thought: Ladies, don't assume that men ONLY stare at large breasts. On more than one occasion in my life, I've caught men staring at my chest, especially while I was in a sports top. Seems that many men like nipples/breasts in general, independent of size. One of these times the guy staring was my friend's fiance. She has larger breasts than I, and was right there when he was doing it. Another time, a guy in the gym I barely knew commented on how great I looked when I was working out my chest. I mumbled something about how "Well, when you don't have big boobs, you have to do other things" and he looked at me like I was nuts and said, "I wouldn't change a thing!"

The rare times it's happened, I've been like "Whaaa??" but it is interesting.
karategrrl
OMG, I just found this on the internet. Very interesting points:

-Cosmetic surgery rarely provides mental relief from perceived body flaws.
-Some physicians actually refuse to perform procedures rather than take the money and run. Good for them.

http://www.lifespan.org/news/2010/08/11/do...rphic-disorder/
starship
QUOTE(limousine @ Aug 16 2010, 12:04 AM) *
I just spent the weekend with two of my best friends from out of town who have huge boobs and flaunt them more often then not. One of them is especially fit with huge ones that cannot go unnoticed. I secretly don't want them to meet my boyfriend. I know they will meet one day and I just dread that day. Has anybody else ever felt this? Part of it is jealousy, and a lot of it is feeling inadequate, like he will totally notice their chests and it just serves as a reminder of how small mine are.


definitely. I don't even have a boyfriend right now but I still worry about the thought of introducing him to my family when i do get one- crazy. My cousins are literally gorgeous. And they actually have nice personalities too. I doubt (hope) that anything would actually happen between a guy I'd date and a relative of mine, but it still really upsets me to know(trust me, i know) that he'd be gawping at and probably lusting after them.
Its not just that they have big boobs btw. They all have amazing hair, pretty faces, perfect teeth etc etc too. sucks to be the 'flawed' one in virtually every department.
nbdx0645
Everybody sounds so down on themselves. (Hug)

It's hard not to compare ourselves to other women, but we really ought to stop it. You're rarely going to win a comparison against someone else. If you do feel that you 'win' the comparison, you start to feel shallow and vain. You might even see a woman who is your size, and you might become unhappy with her appearance, because you're projecting yourself on to her. You might pity her because you pity yourself. This is why comparison is bad. Comparison should be avoided.

Teens also run from AAA to K, so it would be good to keep that in mind too. I feel terrible that I even brought it up. Some girls might be delighted that you feel really down on yourself; others might get really depressed knowing that they're making other women feel inadequate and ashamed. For me, I don't really feel 'outbreasted.' I don't feel like they are competing with me. They are young girls who have different needs and interests. It's just...I want to know what it feels like to have a heaviness in my chest. I wonder if I would have had a better youth if I didn't get teased about my breasts.

It's really hard for me to come to terms with "this is all you get." I'm working really hard to accept that. Getting over the sadness is a life-long exercise regimen -- some days it's easy; you feel good and you're happy. Other days, it's a bitch to drag yourself out of bed and train. You feel so much resistance from the media, or from friends and family, or yourself...but you have to lift that weight off yourself and refocus those feelings. Think about why you might feel this way. Think about who is telling you to feel this way. Remind yourself that you want to get away from these feelings. Think about all the things people have complimented you on. Think about those who will go to war for your small breasts!

We're not disappointing others because we have small breasts. We're disappointing others because we fail to see our bodies like those who love us. We're missing out on our true potential. That's something that can't be measured in a cup size.
karategrrl
QUOTE(nbdx0645 @ Aug 17 2010, 12:02 AM) *
I feel terrible that I even brought it up.

Oh, don't be. We've all been there. It's reassuring not to feel so alone.

QUOTE(nbdx0645 @ Aug 17 2010, 12:02 AM) *
We're not disappointing others because we have small breasts. We're disappointing others because we fail to see our bodies like those who love us. We're missing out on our true potential. That's something that can't be measured in a cup size.

OMG, well said!!!
starship
I don't know if she's been mentioned here before but omg I dunno how Johnny Depp's partner slipped under my radar for so long...

Look

Sorry if this is old news to you guys but I had to head straight over here after making this discovery lol. Her body and colouring reminds me a bit of myself
strongirl
Smokin' hot photos of Johnny Depp (I love him!) and Vanessa Paradis. They sell her short tho - she more than "plays the guitar", she's a very successful pop singer and musician in Europe. And yeah, they're both gorgeous and talented. And she's got very lovely very small breasts.

May I point out that Johnny Depp could have his pick of pretty much any big-boobed woman in the world he wants?

May I point out that if your boyfriends would rather be with a big-boobed girl than you, they would be?
discowombat
QUOTE(strongirl @ Aug 17 2010, 10:59 PM) *
May I point out that Johnny Depp could have his pick of pretty much any big-boobed woman in the world he wants?
May I point out that if your boyfriends would rather be with a big-boobed girl than you, they would be?


That is the most useful thing I've heard in awhile. Good points and thank you!
anarch
Love Paradis's bandeau.

Can't remember if it's come up in here before (probably), but I read somewhere, and bfs have mentioned, that small breasts often seem to be particularly sensitive especially the nipples. My sweetie's been going to town on mine in the past couple of weeks so, damn, I'm glad I've got the boobs I do.

I googled to see if there was a medical writeup about it and couldn't find much, but did come across an article on boob augmentation that mentioned the risk of losing nipple sensation entirely. Yikes.

Stereotypes of what's "normal" and "desirable" can fuck us up badly if we focus on them and not what real, caring, loving, respectful people find normal and desirable, is what I'm thinking.
karategrrl
QUOTE(anarch @ Aug 18 2010, 05:39 AM) *
I googled to see if there was a medical writeup about it and couldn't find much, but did come across an article on boob augmentation that mentioned the risk of losing nipple sensation entirely. Yikes.

I don't think larger (natural) breasts necessarily means less sensitivity, but it has been well-documented that partial or total loss of nipple sensitivity is a common side effect of augmentation. On an anecdotal note, a former acquaintance's wife had got implants. He swore she no longer had the sensitivity she once did. I would never want to risk losing that!

I think Paradis looks amazing, especially for having had two kids! I don't care for that bandeau, though--not flattering at all, in my opinion.
spot-on
Hey Fellow Smallies!
Well I feel a little better since my last post, but not completely out the woods yet regarding my breast size issues. I hate feeling like this. The problem for me has been that since I workout a lot (my job and training for 1/2 marathon) and have lost 30lbs in 2009 my boob fullness has gone. Not been helped by the fact that teenagers are doing summer camps at the park I run at and 98% have bigger boobs than me and they are like 15 years old!!!

I talked to my man about it all on Monday and he's made me feel a bit better about it (he's against surgery and loves me the way I am), I am called his "hot wife" at work so I kinda feel like some of this is all in my own head, but the idea of surgery hasn't left my mind completely... yet... Swings and roundabouts on the emotion train! I will say that yoga is helping me a lot, I've been practicing a few times a week and as one of my Yogi's says "if you think positive and turn all negatives into positives, eventually negativity will no longer be able to penetrate your aura" I need to do more yoga and positive thinking practice!

Yep Vanessa Paradis was big in the 80's too, she had a hit song in the UK with a French song "joe le taxi" it was huge at the time and all the school boys fancied her like crazy!
karategrrl
QUOTE(spot-on @ Aug 18 2010, 07:12 PM) *
Hey Fellow Smallies!
Well I feel a little better since my last post, but not completely out the woods yet regarding my breast size issues. I hate feeling like this. The problem for me has been that since I workout a lot (my job and training for 1/2 marathon) and have lost 30lbs in 2009 my boob fullness has gone. Not been helped by the fact that teenagers are doing summer camps at the park I run at and 98% have bigger boobs than me and they are like 15 years old!!!

I talked to my man about it all on Monday and he's made me feel a bit better about it (he's against surgery and loves me the way I am), I am called his "hot wife" at work so I kinda feel like some of this is all in my own head, but the idea of surgery hasn't left my mind completely... yet... Swings and roundabouts on the emotion train! I will say that yoga is helping me a lot, I've been practicing a few times a week and as one of my Yogi's says "if you think positive and turn all negatives into positives, eventually negativity will no longer be able to penetrate your aura" I need to do more yoga and positive thinking practice!

Yep Vanessa Paradis was big in the 80's too, she had a hit song in the UK with a French song "joe le taxi" it was huge at the time and all the school boys fancied her like crazy!


spot-on, amen to ALL you said!!!! Yes, the yoga is a BIG help for me too. Thank you for the positive reminder about the negatives/positives. I'm not a pro at it yet, but thinking positively and looking for positives rather than griping about negatives REALLY helps.
spot-on
Yep I need more yoga for sure.

Not completely got surgery out of my brain but at least my man and I talked about it which helps a lot. He's supporting me in whatever decision *I* make either way. I just feel like this has been such a recurrent issue in my life that I am nearly 40 and wonder if I can continue another 30+ years feeling like this with the flip flops of emotions. Would having bigger boobs improve my quality of life? Probably yes because my self confidence would improve. However part of me feels a hypocrite for endorsing a health & Fitness lifestyle when I'd have implants/surgery - but then as a friend said "you're an expert at making bodies smaller, not bigger - there is no natural way to make boobs bigger but there are natural ways to make bodies smaller and that's your job". The point for me is I know I have a good general body due to my job (good weight for height and 'athletic' on the body fat-muscle ratio) and it doesn't look proportionate right now cos of the lack of fullness in my boobs and that lowers my confidence.

So yeah I don't know... I am still on the fence about it all as you can see from reading my post it's all jumbled in my head. I don't know if this is just one of those down periods of my life or a turning point. Either way I have a supportive husband who is supportive in my decision and that helps a TON!

thoughts?
strongirl
Hi Spot-on,

Here's a suggestion: go back and re-read all your awesome, positive posts from the past 6 months or so. You helped a lot of other people when you posted them...now maybe your past self can give your present self a gift!

Hugs to you!

buttercups
I agree with Strongirl, you have been like a role model to me! Your positivity has always helped me to keep going on my bad days. I understand completely why you feel the need to have surgery, and of course it is not my decision, my life, nor my business to tell you what to do, but I just want you to know that you are an inspiration to me, and not just to me but to lots of other women like us. I don't want to tell you not to get implants if you really feel it will improve your life- I go back and forth on this all the time, and of course you're entitled to your bad days too, but I have to admit that a part of me would be saddened if you did decide to change yourself. You are a beautiful person and 100% natural and you've worked so hard to have the body that you have. It is your body and you can do what you want with it, and as a fellow smallie I will also support you in whatever you chose, but just know that I am rooting for you to remain just as you are, because that is absolutely perfect.
strongirl
What a beautiful reply you wrote to Spot-on, Buttercups. We should all strive to be and have the kind of friend you are, to offer support with the perfect balance that you just demonstrated.
spot-on
I just wanted to say THANK YOU to Buttercups before I head out to work, then disappear for a few days due busy weekend ahead. Will update soon
anarch
QUOTE(strongirl @ Aug 20 2010, 05:00 AM) *
What a beautiful reply you wrote to Spot-on, Buttercups. We should all strive to be and have the kind of friend you are, to offer support with the perfect balance that you just demonstrated.


Wow, yeah. Seconded (to Spot-on and Buttercups both)!

In future when I need to combine support and balance, I'll refer to that piece of writing as inspiration and guide.
nbdx0645
Hi all,
I had a big run-in with my family this weekend, and I want to talk about it. I was talking to my father about my sister, who is having all sorts of financial and emotional issues, and he said "Well she doesn't have the slim body with the huge boobs, so no wonder she doesn't have any confidence." He was naming off her friends from the past who had great bodies and are doing fantastic in life.

I got really pissed. I said, "I don't have that type of body and I'm doing great." and then he told me "That I was really lucky." Seriously?

I'm tired of being so pear-shaped; I hate having a hip measurement that's significantly larger than my bust, but I'm more tired of the idiocy that runs in my family. No wonder my mom got a boob job. >: (
buttercups
Aww thanks ladies, hope it helps in some way cause I really do mean it.

nbdx I don't want to offend you or anything but I think it's really strange that your father would talk about you and your sister like that. And does he seriously believe that success is measured by the shape and size of your body?! Wow my family has said some pretty messed up things too, but this one really pisses me off. If this were true than all the happy, successful women in the world would be supermodels. I think there are plenty of other women doing fantastic in life with plenty of physical "flaws" and it has nothing to do with luck! Ugh it seems so sexist too, basically saying once again that women are only worth what they look like. So sorry you are subjected to this bullshit. Do you have any brothers? Wonder what he would think their reason would be if they were having any problems, bet it wouldn't be their bodies...Maybe your sister's lack of confidence has something to do with all the crap he's probably been putting in her head for years attributing her lack of certain features to any problems she's come across in life.

nbdx0645
QUOTE(buttercups @ Aug 22 2010, 10:00 AM) *
Maybe your sister's lack of confidence has something to do with all the crap he's probably been putting in her head for years attributing her lack of certain features to any problems she's come across in life.


No, you're not offending me at all. My family is messed up. Sometimes, when they say things, I can't believe that it's real. My dad has told me that if I'm unhappy I should get implants. I'm convinced it's not going to help at all; after all, it didn't help my mother. What's the difference between saying "I'm really small, is that okay?" to your lover or "I've got fake boobs, is that okay?"

I think then men I want to attract would be more likely to RUN AWAY at the second statement.
karategrrl
Yeah, nbdx, that was a fucked-up thing for your dad of all people to say to you.

And this is not NOT an excuse for men, but I seriously think most men have never even come close to understanding what it's like to be a woman. My own Dad in many ways is very feminist (always instilled in me getting an education, being independant, learning to change a fucking car tire for god's sake) yet he made some seriously idiotic fucktwat comments when I was younger. Example: I came home from school one day (freshman year of college--I commuted and lived at home) all frazzled b/c some dipshit stopped at a stop sign said to me as I walked by, "Why don't you give me head while I wait?" To this, my dad said, "Oh, that's not so bad!" Uuuuuhhh, YEAH buddy, YOU try walking in my fucking shoes for a mile.

Sorry, didn't mean to get on a rant, but people are just amazingly clueless sometimes. MANY men think all problems can be solved with implants. Do your best to educate them, but don't hold your breath either.

nbdx, let me say that despite your "messed up" family, you sound like you turned out amazingly well. Good for you! <<hugs>>
strongirl
nbdx, you have my respect and admiration for having a really healthy and strong perspective in spite of getting some pretty f'd up parenting along the way. Living well is the best revenge.

Maybe you should share this article with your dad. I read this total eye-roller of a "news" bit today about Heidi Montag, who is now regretting her size G implants, which are "crushing" her and caused the end of her marriage. When she says it's "heartbreaking" I have to think "No, rape in the Congo is heartbreaking. Childhood leukemia is heartbreaking. Your size G implants ending your marriage to a total jerk are sad, yes, pathetic, yes, a serious error in judgment, yes. Heartbreaking, uh no."

http://www.allvoices.com/s/event-6602631/a...jkzNjcxLmh0bWw=

koffeewitch
Ladies, show your tatas some love...here's a great tutorial for making your own bras. I think these look great; the pattern is slightly padded for comfort and made for the small-medium sized gal. Because of the material, the bra could even be worn like a summer top for the more daring amoung you.
http://www.craftster.org/forum/index.php?topic=355718.0
lux
They mentioned, and quote, this thread in NY Times yesterday. I didn't know my tits are actually newsworthy smile.gif

"For the A-Cup Crowd, Minimal Assets Are a Plus"
just_a_guy
Speaking as a man in his late 20s, I much prefer small to large breasts. Always have.

I've been trying to talk female acquaintances out of getting implants since I was 14 (I've only failed once) and, while I used to joke that I ran "a non-profit organization dedicated to preventing the extinction of the small-breasted American female" (and that we pursued our mission through offerings of small breast appreciation seminars and one-on-one hands on workshops) the truth is that I honestly care.

Running a small lingerie etailer a few years back, I was constantly trying to find attractive products that would fit the women I dated. It was certainly not easy.

I think that nearly everyone has body image issues but the fact of the matter is that we live in a culture surrounded by messages that the only value we (and especially women) have is as a sexual object while simultaneously being told that nudity is pornographic, and that sex is dirty. That said, I think women have a really hard time given the prominence (pardon the pun) of your secondary sexual characteristics.

I can only imagine what it would be like to walk around with my penis ostensibly on display in a world surrounded by advertisements that would have you believe anything under ten inches is inadequate. I saw my sister go through it in adolescence, opting to joke about being a member of the IBTC rather than display her feelings of inadequacy, and I've watched those feelings follow her into adulthood. Even during her first pregnancy I cannot enumerate the times she talked about how she looked forward to filling out a bra.

All of this said, I think that it's important to know that there are potential partners out there who will VALUE our assets, not settle for them, as we try to do the same.

If I hear about any support groups in the Los Angeles area, you can bet I'll be there. Partly because I'm currently single, but mostly because I care tongue.gif

FYI - I found this forum because a friend forwarded the NY Times article to me. She knows me too well smile.gif
buttercups
Wow don't know how I feel about that article, I kinda like this group being our own special place to vent and share experiences with other women who understand. Hope other people who visit this place because of the article can respect that...
Persiflager
*delurks*

Dude...

Let's start fresh. Please pop into the newbies thread and introduce yourself. I'd suggest something like:

"Hi! I'm just a guy [insert generic greeting, personal information etc]. I found this forum because a friend forwarded the NY Times article to me, and knows how much I appreciate small-boobed ladies. Would it be creepy or inappropriate if I posted in the small breast support thread? I understand this may be a girls-only safe space and that you might feel uncomfortable if I burst in randomly talking about your breasts. If so, cool, whatevs - I'll just say "Yay for small boobies!" and be on my merry way."

I say this out of love, and a belief that your post below was non-trolly and well-intentioned.

Peace out.

*relurks*
karategrrl
Well said, Persiflager. just_a_guy, I can speak for myself in that I did find your comments more valuable than, well, just about any other male's comments have been in here. And I especially liked your visual of your penis flagging about for all to see, and to judge its size. smile.gif But yeah, I've learned (through, I admit, some awkward online moments of my own) that it's always best to say hi first and figuratively dip a toe in the water before jumping in.

And the fact that you used what looks like a real picture of yourself also scores a few points, at least with me. But if that's not really you, then I take that back.
just_a_guy
Sorry if I disrespected etiquette by not introducing myself in the newbies thread, or if anyone took offense to my post.

I was being sincere, and don't believe I posted anything troll-like.

Yes, that is my real picture smile.gif

I posted because I thought I could add something positive to the discussion. If any individuals feel like I failed to do so, then I apologize for wasting their time. On the other hand, if anyone has a gripe strictly because I happen to be male and still wanted to offer my support on this issue, then I suppose all I can say is that we must subscribe to different brands of feminism.
dancingqueen
Hi! I'm new, and yes I did introduce myself in the newbies thread wink.gif

I'm 22 and have A cups. Same since I have been 12....yay. I see teenagers who are bigger than me and hate it. A cup bras do not work well and look awkward and leave a huge gap to the point where I cannot bend over in a low cut shirt. I've considered breast implants since I was 14 just to get over this shit.

Any advice/support out there? I'm about to be engaged (keep them crossed ladies!!!) and he loves me for EXACTLY who I am. Great right? Kinda sucks when I don't love myself. It has been a roller coaster of love/hate for these little ones. And every time I start to feel secure about it, some asshole makes a comment and there I go, back to ground zero. Oh, and btw, since when did people get the right to say comments/remarks about my body????

I'm really excited for this group. I think it will be really supportive. THANKS!!
buttercups

Hey dancingqueen, I know exactly how you feel and so do so many of the other great ladies in here. It is a total roller coaster and just when you start to feel ok with yourself it seems like someone is there to make a rude comment about your body. I'll tell you I've heard every flat-chested comment imaginable from assholes all over and haven't quite figured out the best way to handle that yet. It does send you right back down and I have no idea why some people feel its ok to comment about another person's body like that! I would never go up to some girl and be like "wow your ass is big!" so why do others come up to me and say "wow you have no boobs!" The problem is too that we remember the negative comments over all of the positive ones. I'm sure so many people in your life (your boy included of course) have told you how absolutely beautiful you are, but all it takes is one asshole pointing out your small chest to make you forget that. I'm not the best one to give advice on here, because as you may have noticed I'm still struggling myself, but I am here for commiseration and I can tell you that after talking to the ladies in here you will start to feel better about yourself. Of course you are going to have moments where you feel so down, and I wish that there was some way to take that away, but you will definitely have days where you feel really good and don't care what the world thinks- and that is what we can help each other feel like.

Keep us posted about your engagement, you're going to make a beautiful bride!! Tyra Banks even did a show recently about wedding dresses for smaller chested ladies, so I'll try to find out if there is a link to that somewhere. Hope you're feeling better today!

<3 buttercups



discowombat
Does anyone in here have experience with items from the Little Bra Company ( http://www.thelittlebracompany.com/ ) ? They are a bit on the expensive side but I'm considering it anyways since I want something that will look nice with my wedding dress and can double as honeymoon lingerie. At this point it's either buy something expensive, use a plain ill fitting bra I already own, or frankenstein something together out of a cheap bra & foam bra fillers. If anyone has tried the Lucia style in particular please let me know if you have any sizing tips that would be useful (cups run big/small, etc). Thank you all in advance!
just_a_guy
QUOTE(discowombat @ Sep 4 2010, 09:12 PM) *
Does anyone in here have experience with items from the Little Bra Company ( http://www.thelittlebracompany.com/ ) ? They are a bit on the expensive side but I'm considering it anyways since I want something that will look nice with my wedding dress and can double as honeymoon lingerie. At this point it's either buy something expensive, use a plain ill fitting bra I already own, or frankenstein something together out of a cheap bra & foam bra fillers. If anyone has tried the Lucia style in particular please let me know if you have any sizing tips that would be useful (cups run big/small, etc). Thank you all in advance!


Hey,

I actually have some experience dealing with the little bra company as a vendor from a few years ago (2008 or so). The idea behind it, if I recall correctly was to build attractive bras based on cuts the owner found coming out of Asia, which fit well but weren't terribly attractive design-wise. The cups are closer together and the padding is positioned a little not further to the side, which is intended to address a lot of the issues smaller women have with mainstream bras that come in smaller cup sizes, but aren't cut differently.

The handful of female friends and family that I had give them a shot found them to be a better fit than what they were used to. They are on the pricey side since they are a small boutique manufacturer, and if you have a large rib cage I'm not sure how that would affect the fit, but otherwise I feel pretty confident recommending.

Hope that helps smile.gif
discowombat
Hey Guy,

I'm glad to hear the bras sound like a quality product. I realize part of the cost is due to the small demographic that require those sizes, but they better hold up for that price! The petite band size won't be an issue. I can't even find my proper size in any brick and mortar stores so even finding a site that carries them it exciting to me.
discowombat
I think I killed the conversation, lol.
dancingqueen
Thanks for your great post buttercups! It was really helpful. I can't figure out how to handle it either. I told one guy that when he is forty and having to go to strip clubs I'll still have perky tits and a great sex life.

The BF and I broke up Saturday. He got physical with me and told me to "take my tiny tits and fuck someone else". wow. All I have managed to do with those who say hurtful things about our "tiny tits" is to distance myself from them because a true friend would not say those things.

QUOTE(buttercups @ Sep 4 2010, 09:33 AM) *
Hey dancingqueen, I know exactly how you feel and so do so many of the other great ladies in here. It is a total roller coaster and just when you start to feel ok with yourself it seems like someone is there to make a rude comment about your body. I'll tell you I've heard every flat-chested comment imaginable from assholes all over and haven't quite figured out the best way to handle that yet. It does send you right back down and I have no idea why some people feel its ok to comment about another person's body like that! I would never go up to some girl and be like "wow your ass is big!" so why do others come up to me and say "wow you have no boobs!" The problem is too that we remember the negative comments over all of the positive ones. I'm sure so many people in your life (your boy included of course) have told you how absolutely beautiful you are, but all it takes is one asshole pointing out your small chest to make you forget that. I'm not the best one to give advice on here, because as you may have noticed I'm still struggling myself, but I am here for commiseration and I can tell you that after talking to the ladies in here you will start to feel better about yourself. Of course you are going to have moments where you feel so down, and I wish that there was some way to take that away, but you will definitely have days where you feel really good and don't care what the world thinks- and that is what we can help each other feel like.

Keep us posted about your engagement, you're going to make a beautiful bride!! Tyra Banks even did a show recently about wedding dresses for smaller chested ladies, so I'll try to find out if there is a link to that somewhere. Hope you're feeling better today!

<3 buttercups

discowombat
Dancingqueen,
I'm sorry he hurt you. It makes me want to go open a can of whoopass quite honestly.
just_a_guy
Seriously? What a jack-ass.

I'm know that it might offer little comfort, DQ, but I hope you realize that usually someone only lashes out so cruelly at a known insecurity in utter desperation. It was the only weapon left in his arsenal to try and take control back of a situation where you had the upper hand.

He said it, not because it accurately reflects you, nor because it reflects his true feelings, but because he knew that it would hurt the way that only someone close to you can. The only thing a statement like that can accurately reflect is the weakness of character in the one who spoke it.

If he really held you in such low esteem, he wouldn't care about hurting you. The very fact that he felt he needed to do so betrays his true feelings as well as his own insecurities.
lux
I'm sorry to hear that, DQ. Hope you're feeling a bit better now. I've had a partner say similar things to me in the past. And it hurts so much (kind of still does after 4 years). Even when you know it is not true. I'm glad to read the response here, it reminds me that she was only saying it to hurt me and my size (or anything about me, for that matter) had nothing to do with what happened.

Try not to take it in you, and try to let go of the hurtful comments, DQ. They are not about you. (and listen to the busties smile.gif )
starship
Guy's right, they only say things like that because they know it will play on our insecurities and 'hit us where it hurts'. It's common in heated arguments to say something that you know will get to that person, even if you don't necessarily mean it.

Anyway, I was on another website (looking for some sexy lingerie) and noticed a post on their forum about small breasts which I liked & wanted to share with you ladies. Hope the man who posted it wouldn't mind me pasting it here unsure.gif :

"There are theories that small boobs are attractive because they look younger and hence more fertile. Don't argue with science!

Anyway, For small boobs. Some of my opinions below which don't mean I don't like big boobs!

I love how smaller boobs hold their 'shape' and look more rounded.

I love how smaller boobs look perter without support.

I love how smaller boobs (that I've seen) tend to have defined nipples.

I love how smaller boobs just fit in your hand easily. (Isn't it annoying when you want all of something and can't?)

I love how smaller boobs stay perter for longer!

I love how smaller boobs 'mould' to the chest.

I love how smaller boobs 'hang' 'pointy' when in doggy.

I love how smaller boobs make a body look petite and ladylike

etc... There are many many reasons why I prefer smaller boobs! I just find them so feminine.

Pay attention to the advice of people here, especially those who have felt the same. [member1] and [member2] have both felt the same and realised that that those lovely smaller boobs still leave us men as drooling idiots and its what you do with them that counts. Corsets and other lingerie on smaller boobed ladies drive me bloody wild!

Sex is in the head but not just your head, confidence spreads and says to your partner I feel good and because of that so will you! Imperfections (which smaller boobs are NOT!) don't matter if you get over them, getting over them says "I'm uninhibited and ready for a good time and some fun!" and that is very sexy.

We have preferences but I also believe that the more you love someone the more your preferences change to fit the person you love so if your OH loves you, you need not worry. I love [member2] to the core and when I think of any random part she has, it either was or has become the most attractive specimen of its kind! Loving her means any part of her represents much more than a desirable fat deposit in the right place! I'm sure your OH feels the same.

Now I will not repeat much more what these sexy and intelligent ladies have said. I just thought another male who loves small boobs might help a little!"
auralpoison
Hey! Just A Guy, don't forget to stop by the Newbies thread to introduce yourself!

Dancingqueen, hold my jacket & earrings because I am about to bust out the razor blades & Vaseline on your ex's ass. I won't kill 'im, but I sure will mess 'im up some! What a shitty little insecure punk!

KeraBear
Can I help DiscoWombat open up a can of whuppass on DancingQueen's ex? Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeease? What a jerkface! DQ, that man is far from worthy of being with beautiful you... you'll bounce back!

Starship - thanks for posting those comments. Of course, i will not let any man's opinions define me, but I won't lie - i appreciate those pick-me ups. smile.gif
KeraBear
Oh yeah... and weighing in late on the teens with bigger breasts discussion... since i am a teen (17), they would actually be my peers, but yes, still totally sucks. And for the first half of high school, TWEENS also! Geeez. My biggest hangup though is my 15-year-old sister, who is a C cup (i am a small A *sigh*) and three inches taller than I am, too! It's like some sort of cosmic joke or something, her developing so much more and much earlier than me her "big" sister. She is 135 pounds and I am 110. It's amazing, it's like we aren't even related. The worst part of it is that she doesn't let me forget about it. Immature boys (pretty much most of the guys) tease me about this at school a lot. One of them actually approached me the other day and said, "your sister is hot." Really.

End of rant!

But it doesn't bother me as much as i used to. I credit a lot of that to this forum, so big shout out to all you awesome gals! And my BF is always loving up my tiny booblets, which is also a super bonus. wink.gif
just_a_guy
Done and Done biggrin.gif

QUOTE(auralpoison @ Sep 8 2010, 11:10 PM) *
Hey! Just A Guy, don't forget to stop by the Newbies thread to introduce yourself!

Dancingqueen, hold my jacket & earrings because I am about to bust out the razor blades & Vaseline on your ex's ass. I won't kill 'im, but I sure will mess 'im up some! What a shitty little insecure punk!


strongirl
I've been tres busy but a few quick comments here:

guy - I've enjoyed your comments so far and find them insightful and respectful. Maintain the tone, dude, and you'll continue to be accepted here. Plus you're cute! (busties, note the use of the word "cute" to denote sexual attractiveness)

starship - awesome post of that other guy's comments re his love of smallies. I especially liked his remark about how they "hang pointy when in doggy", LOL! I used to think that was a negative and felt very self-conscious about it until my bf finally got it through to me that he loved it (including precariously balancing on one hand so the other could keep feeling my titties).

kera - I am with you 100% about not letting anyone else's opinions of my body define me. I also agree with you about appreciating the comments! Sex is a form of communication and if someone is communicating (nicely) that they like what I got, I'm gonna communicate that I like hearing it.

Here's what I dislike about the "being out-boobed by teenage girls" comments: y'all are buying into the whole idea that all of us women are in some kind of competition...and worse, you think you're losing based on boob size! Reject the idea that we're competing in the first place - it's totally bogus. View your own body and the bodies of other women of all ages and sizes with generosity, appreciation, and respect and stop constantly "rating" yourself and others. I don't mean to diss your feelings and I do understand them. But it's not what's below your collarbone that's making you unhappy, it's what's above it.



just_a_guy
First off, thank you. I'm very flattered. I tried to find a blushing smiley but, alas I failed.

I think that communicating your appreciation to your partner is so important. Personally, only two of my partners have been able to compliment the parts of my anatomy about which I am insecure in a fashion that felt genuine enough for me to accept, but they made all the difference in the world.

My sexual prowess is a significant component of my identity as a man, and the type of confidence (and more importantly comfort) instilled by that type of communication made me feel safe enough to express my masculinity without having to hide behind false machismo.

Along the lines of women competing with each other: I often talk about using a model to categorize potential dates as either shoe collectors or underwear collectors. There have been times when it puts people off (with the immediate reaction of not wanting to be pigeonholed), but the truth is that the model has grown out of anecdotal trends that I have noticed that communicate how competitive a girl is with her peers.

In my experience a girl who has a closet full of trendy shoes and handbags cares more about the criticism of other women, whereas a girl who is more likely to spend her free shopping time picking out underwear tends to put more weight on the opinions of her inner circle of friends and family.

I know that it is a serious over-simplification (especially in the condensed form in which I've presented it here), but it boils down to a quick acid test of how a potential date derives her sense of self-esteem with respect to the opinions of the outside world, and For the ten odd years I've been using it, it hasn't led me wrong.

To finally get to my point: I think that women are much more critical of each other and of themselves, then men ever could be, and I agree with strongirl that some serious changes in that department could provide some real benefit, even if it's just within your core group of friends.

Starship: I also want to whole-heartedly agree with your entire post.


QUOTE(strongirl @ Sep 9 2010, 01:59 PM) *
I've been tres busy but a few quick comments here:

guy - I've enjoyed your comments so far and find them insightful and respectful. Maintain the tone, dude, and you'll continue to be accepted here. Plus you're cute! (busties, note the use of the word "cute" to denote sexual attractiveness)

starship - awesome post of that other guy's comments re his love of smallies. I especially liked his remark about how they "hang pointy when in doggy", LOL! I used to think that was a negative and felt very self-conscious about it until my bf finally got it through to me that he loved it (including precariously balancing on one hand so the other could keep feeling my titties).

kera - I am with you 100% about not letting anyone else's opinions of my body define me. I also agree with you about appreciating the comments! Sex is a form of communication and if someone is communicating (nicely) that they like what I got, I'm gonna communicate that I like hearing it.

Here's what I dislike about the "being out-boobed by teenage girls" comments: y'all are buying into the whole idea that all of us women are in some kind of competition...and worse, you think you're losing based on boob size! Reject the idea that we're competing in the first place - it's totally bogus. View your own body and the bodies of other women of all ages and sizes with generosity, appreciation, and respect and stop constantly "rating" yourself and others. I don't mean to diss your feelings and I do understand them. But it's not what's below your collarbone that's making you unhappy, it's what's above it.
discowombat
QUOTE(just_a_guy @ Sep 9 2010, 06:27 PM) *
In my experience a girl who has a closet full of trendy shoes and handbags cares more about the criticism of other women, whereas a girl who is more likely to spend her free shopping time picking out underwear tends to put more weight on the opinions of her inner circle of friends and family.


What does it mean if you don't collect either? Lol. I"m not making fun of you. I just kind of want to know if you've ever run into that.
auralpoison
QUOTE(just_a_guy @ Sep 9 2010, 06:27 PM) *
In my experience a girl who has a closet full of trendy shoes and handbags cares more about the criticism of other women, whereas a girl who is more likely to spend her free shopping time picking out underwear tends to put more weight on the opinions of her inner circle of friends and family.

I know that it is a serious over-simplification (especially in the condensed form in which I've presented it here), but it boils down to a quick acid test of how a potential date derives her sense of self-esteem with respect to the opinions of the outside world, and For the ten odd years I've been using it, it hasn't led me wrong.


Okay. So this? Irritates me to no end, admittedly oversimplified or not. I mean, until a dude walks in my cups & favorite shoes he has no room to make assumptions about me based solely on my choice of accessories or foundation garmentry.

The goods I buy sartorially say nothing about my relations with other women or my friends/family any more than what I buy at the market or hardware store. And who the fuck is anybody to draw such a negative conclusion about my self-esteem at a glance? (They can see my shoes/handbag, but they can't see my drawers unless I let them!) I buy quality things that I like that are comfortable & that I like the look/touch of. I'm happy for you that your odd litmus test has worked for you, JAG, but for me it is specious, fallacious bullshit.
just_a_guy
To answer your question discowombat, yes I have certainly come across people who collect neither (although it has been a rare occasion when a girl did not have a preference. On those occasions I ask other questions. After all, it's hard to draw conclusions based on the absence of data, and I look at it more as a fun interesting way to learn about a person than "what's your major?" or "what's your sign?"

Auralpoison: I can't say that I haven't run into your point of view before. That said, I'm not sire why you take such personal offense to the inner workings of someone else's mind, nor do I understand how you drew the conclusions that I determine a person's inter-personal relationships based on Their clothes. What I actually described is a generalization based on an individuals interests (interest in accessories versus interest in comfort garments).

Somehow I doubt that you would be as averse to making a snap judgement that someone is an audiophile based on the fact that Thor house was full of LPs and expensive stereo equipment, or that a guy who wears a lot of sports jersey is likely a sports fan, or that a person who uses the words specious and fallacious is most likely of middle to upper class socioeconomic status, college educated, most likely with or pursuing at least a graduate degree (which I would not be surprised to learn was in law).

If you walked into a courthouse saw one man in a suit, one in a jumpsuit, one in a uniform, and one in a robe, I don't believe for a second that you wouldn't make snap judgements about the people behind the clothes. We use models to make it easier to process all the data around us on a daily basis, I just don't understand why mine evoked such a powerful emotional reaction from you. Especially since it was never applied to you personally, despite your post reading as if that were the case.

Perhaps you can give me some perspective on the matter.
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