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shinyx3
ha ha dayglow, i started the kegel while on bust this morning!
tyger
alrighty, i have gotten to the bottom (ahem) of the situation with the boything. we were messing around the other night and everything was just like it had been before it got weird, but as soon as it came to sex...flop went the penis. so, i didn't make any sort of deal of it, just went back to making out like we were before, and afterwards i made him talk some more, since even though he said that he had got over his performance issues obviously he hadn't. it turns out his most recent ex used to be *very* harsh in bed (along with being a big bag of raging crazy bitch, but i digress), and that it still bothers him because it makes him feel like he honestly isn't good enough, and then we talked for some more and decided that we could put sex on the back burner until it was just going to be the two of us in bed instead of us and her, too.

i, of course, being horny, decide the best way to do this is to wait until he's almost asleep and sneak-attack with the seduction so he won't have time/be alert enough to worry. so, he's almost asleep, and i decide it's time to give his asshole a nice little massage. and then i climbed on top of him and whispered in his ear how much i wanted him, how good it was going to feel, etc (it felt sort of horribly cheesy, but i knew it was the best way to get him past his mental block about sex). and away we went. no shrinking penis at the sight of the condom, no asking me if i'm enjoying it/asking for direction every few thrusts. i just made sure to keep telling him that it was good and exactly what i wanted.

i think it worked. or, you know, the effect seemed to last for later this morning and this afternoon, anyway tongue.gif
_octinoxate
yay, tyger!!!! good job! i'm glad to hear it!
falljackets
yay tyger!!!!! woohoo! get him!

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DaisyJane
Yaaaaaay Tyger!! Awesome way to go about that!!

With my boyfriend now (who is terribly attractive, i must say. Has no problems with the ladies) he would get sooo nervous having sex with me the first few months. he just said I was so beautiful (awww) it made him super anxious and nervous.

Soon he got over it and now were all good. But maybe thats also part of the problem. Hes feeling like "woah. What did I do for this?" or in his head going "dont mess this up. dont mess this up. dont mess this up" and then everything goes limp.

Maybe not, but that was my problem.

You seem to be doing great! Is it getting more compfortable and fun?

And thanks for reminding me, as I am doing Kegels right now....

Squeeze. Release. Squeeze. Release.
culturehandy
Bwaaahahahaha I am also doing kegels right now1

Tyger! YAY!!!!!! Good for you!
LoveMyPugs
Ok, first let me say that I'm a crybaby. Always have been. I don't necessarily have to be sad either. Sometimes it's just a rush of happiness, anger, frustration and I'm in tears. I really hate this about myself. It makes me feel like I'm weak. For example, I got into an argument with this one chick a while ago and as soon as I asserted myself I just get very emotional and once I was finished saying what I had to say I left the house and started crying outside. This chick is a real bitch and I'm not the least bit afraid of her. I'd still fuck her up if she really stepped to me but the exchange of nasty words gets my adrenaline and tears flowing.

Now that you all know this about me my issue is that sometimes after sex, when it's been very emotional I feel the urge to cry. Usually it's right when my orgasm starts. Most of the time it's when we haven't had sex in a while. Mr. Pug always makes these sessions after a hiatus very sensual. He looks me in the eyes and talks to me sweetly. We really connect if you know what I mean. Now, since we've gotten into the spanking thing I find that I cry then and not during sex which I'm happy about because it feels like a more appropriate time to cry.

My question is does anyone else cry sometimes during sex? Do you feel it come on in your stomach and heart and just feel the tears well up? It's very moving for me. Mr. Pug doesn't really say anything. He'll hold me and ask me if I'm all right. I try not to sob but it's obvious that there are tears in my eyes. I'm a little embarrassed about it so I guess I try to hide it by wiping them away or turning my head. I don’t know why I don’t just talk to him about it. I'm irritated that I cry during something that makes me happy. It's just confusing in my head.

Anyway, just wanted to throw that out there.
shinyx3
Pugs, this is a fairly new thing for me. basicly since i bacame preggers i am aver emotional ans everything makes me cry. sex, when it is romantic and tender makes me cry and i cant help it. hubby was sorried at first but now just snuggles me up and tells me he loves me and i have my little cry for a few and feel better. it is not that i feel sad or bad or anything, just emotional, thats all. i can also be extreemly sappy after sex. i start babbling about the baby and how much i love hubby and how great our lives are and what a lovely son i have, any of which might make me cry.
boblink
QUOTE(LoveMyPugs @ May 15 2007, 02:47 AM) *
Ok, first let me say that I'm a crybaby. Always have been. I don't necessarily have to be sad either. Sometimes it's just a rush of happiness, anger, frustration and I'm in tears. I really hate this about myself. It makes me feel like I'm weak. For example, I got into an argument with this one chick a while ago and as soon as I asserted myself I just get very emotional and once I was finished saying what I had to say I left the house and started crying outside. This chick is a real bitch and I'm not the least bit afraid of her. I'd still fuck her up if she really stepped to me but the exchange of nasty words gets my adrenaline and tears flowing.

Now that you all know this about me my issue is that sometimes after sex, when it's been very emotional I feel the urge to cry. Usually it's right when my orgasm starts. Most of the time it's when we haven't had sex in a while. Mr. Pug always makes these sessions after a hiatus very sensual. He looks me in the eyes and talks to me sweetly. We really connect if you know what I mean. Now, since we've gotten into the spanking thing I find that I cry then and not during sex which I'm happy about because it feels like a more appropriate time to cry.

My question is does anyone else cry sometimes during sex? Do you feel it come on in your stomach and heart and just feel the tears well up? It's very moving for me. Mr. Pug doesn't really say anything. He'll hold me and ask me if I'm all right. I try not to sob but it's obvious that there are tears in my eyes. I'm a little embarrassed about it so I guess I try to hide it by wiping them away or turning my head. I don’t know why I don’t just talk to him about it. I'm irritated that I cry during something that makes me happy. It's just confusing in my head.

Anyway, just wanted to throw that out there.


[size="3"][/size]Hey, Pugs,

With no documentation except experience with my late, great wife, I can tell you that she cried during orgasm frequently. Always tears of joy; never misery, sorrow or anger. I was aware of the tears only because I felt them on my face.

Tears seemed to come only with unusually good orgasms. I never had any reason to assume that she was experiencing any emotional dissatisfaction.

She always -- without exception -- had several orgasms during each session -- i.e. before I got mine. Tears came with only one of them, and not in every session. While we changed positions during virtually every session, my recollection is that they came only in Missionary.

Good luck and good loving.



culturehandy
I used to be on the urge of tears during orgasm. It's just a release. I mean, you are letting go completely, it seems natural that it would happen. I always used to fight it off though...
mornington
pugs, i've been known to cry too. Usually after really emotional sex, or really good sex. I laugh too - sometimes at the same time. I find it easier to just cry - after I explained it to F, it seemed to accept it, but he used to worry lots.
dayglowpink
Yes, I have had that happen, too. One time this guy I was dating was fucking me doggy style, and it was so incredibly intense of a sensation and just felt so amazing that suddenly I found myself bawling. It was very intense and a little weird, too. Other times, it has felt like a release expecially after orgasm or if I haven't seen my guy for a while. Actually the last time it happened was a couple of weeks ago after we had been having some sexual problems, per se, for a few weeks. We finally seemed to get back into things, and I felt so relieved. This particular time I had been trying to come for a while, and I finally did, and it was such a nice release. Then he started fucking me, and it felt really awesome, and I definitely started crying. He was a little concerned, but I explained what was going on, and things were fine.
arrie070
First, let me start off by saying that my boyfriend and I have been dating for Three Years. Everything is wonderful except the sex, of course. It is not that he is "bad" in any way but he just never seems to do anything I enjoy or even try to go the "extra" mile. So my question is how do I tell him that without sounding pushy. And the second part to this question would be how do i make him feel more comfortable with himself to make him want to go that extra mile?
Kalevra
Hello!

Allow me to welcome you to the boards *tips hat* @ Arrie...

Now I know you came here to seek the advice of the girls, and I should butt out since I am a guy, but aside from the occasional drunken ramblings, I feel my point of view could be useful in unraveling your dilemma..

It would appear to me like a little communication problem here, not a lack of it, your 3 yr relationship will testify to that, but perhaps some apprehansion to openly talk about this 'part' of your union. Sometimes two people can be a little 'shy' or even reluctant to talk about sex, and specifically when it comes to likes and dislikes. I don't think I have ever been in a relationship that has been a simple.... " I want you to talk dirty to me, then I want you to pull my hair while at the same time inserting this toothbrush up my anus, after which you need to stimulate my G-spot, which you will find 2 inches inside of me just left of centre"....it never works out like that. All of our bodies differ greatly and what is good for one, is not good for all. So now, the communication needs to be at a comfortable stage, and you both need to be at ease bringing them up....it needs one to make the suggestions, and the other to be understanding enough to venture forth....

I am pretty crap at taking hints, but good at (bravely, I feel) varying things up enough to see what reactions are elicited up....there has to be an element of exploration here....from either both or at least one party

I don't know what the extra mile is in your case, but you need to be able to express your desires...

Maybe you would like to be more specific.....what you are asking for/desiring, might be like.."You want me to do WHAT?"

Again, WELCOME smile.gif


opheliathemuse
Hey Pugs =)

I am not a crier in real life, but something about O makes me sensitive, and in a good way. I knew I loved him when I started crying around him--and that was on our 3rd or 4th date. I tend to cry almost every time we have sex, and orgasm does not have anything to do with it. It's always when he reaches that center of my being and needs, and when I am most happy.
dani837
Ok girlies, I need to complain somewhere about it!
You know that theory that says that a younger guy is better at sex because they try harder? WRONG. At least this one! I mean, he has a biiiig weewee and looks like the clone of Jared Leto (which is why I started dating him)...but when we had sex, it was ..... "sporadic". The guy doesn't know how to move sad.gif

Call me superficial, but if he doesn't know how ot move it right and/or acts immature most of the time, he can go somewhere else tongue.gif
couragebeyondfear
Oral sex vibrator advice

I'm in the market for a vibrator that I can use while performing oral sex on women. I usually place my tongue between the vib and the woman I am having sex with. Up to this point, I've been relying on tools "acquired in the field" so to speak. However, I love doing it this way and feel like I should own my own. Here is what I'm looking for in a vib:

1) Raw power. Need I say more? wink.gif
2) Easy to clean. Safety first!
3) Ease of use. I like the duel-use vibs (clitoral and vaginal stimulation) but that could limit mobility and hurt my wonderful lady. Also, I need to avoid big bulky vibes that will get in the way of my work. There's only so much space to work with down there.

Personally, I like the Hitachi Magic Wand, but I don’t want to invest money into it if it’s not going to work for my purposes or if there is something else that would work better. Can you help me out?
Arcadia
I definitely have a question I've been wondering about.

Personally, I am bare *down there*, and I was just wondering how many of you are as well, or maintain a grooming of your pubic hair. I started shaving two years ago because the guy I was dating said he really liked it and I wanted to see what it was like. We aren't together any more but I've kept it up because I like the look of it even though it's a hell of a job to do. I don't really feel comfortable with waxing even though it is probably better and easier to do, so I stick to the shaving.

But! Recently I've been thinking of just letting it all go - not too dramatic, still performing routine matinence (laugh.gif) - just going back to the way it should be, and Mr. Arc said he doesn't care, he likes it either way. It doesn't bother him if there is hair or not.

I guess I also want to know what your s/o's think of the whole deal. Do they prefer bare? Landing strip? Full bush? Or something else entirely?

I just know that I can depend on you ladies (and select gents!) to tell me what you think. I'm genuinely curious. Indulge me! I'm hoping this was put in the right thread - it just seems general to me!
zoya
arcadia -

there is a "to shave or not to shave" in OBOH, I think - but this is more sex related anyway.. I am totally clean down there. I used to get everything waxed but a piece in the front, then I figured, what's the point, and just went full commando. I like it cause I just like the feel of bare skin against my underwear, and I love being totally clean shaven for oral. Not for any hygeine reason - I could care less if I have pubic hair or not - I just find that when I am bare down there, I have a lot more sensation. I love the feel of a mouth and tounge against bare skin. mmm.

I do a bit of both bare and hair: I get totally waxed, then let it grow in for like 3 weeks then get it waxed again. So it never gets too too long when it does grow in, but enough that it kind of switches up things.

I haven't met a guy who hates it, but neither have I met a guy who has been all like "WOW! THAT'S AWESOME!!" when they've seen I'm bare, so I dont' know how big of a deal it is..
Arcadia
See, I've met guys that LOVE it, some that like it, and others that could go either way.

I have been with one guy who was like, "WOW CAN I TOUCH IT" when I told him. It was before we had sex for the first time and I didn't want to scare him. He was older than me and I didn't know if he had seen that kind of thing before!

For the general part, you are right. I think it does make things better for oral. If the penis itself was really hairy, I wouldn't want to go down on it. And I actually like when guys shave as well. It's pretty hot. I can understand why a guy wouldn't want a mouth of fur when doing oral.
kelkello
I'm a huge fan of shaving. A guy asked me to do it about 10 years ago, and I never looked back. I actually got turned on when I was doing it. Something about that bare skin was just amazing. I went full on commando, too...no landing strip. In the past ten years, I think the longest I've gone without shaving down there is about a week and a half. I just don't like the way it feels to have hair. I have more access, he has more access when I shave.

As for guys liking it...most guys are very into it. Some get extremely turned on. Others are appreciative, but they don't go over the moon or anything. The guy I originally did it for rewarded me greatly for it.

I love when guys groom down below. I've been with guys who full on shave and some who just keep it trim. I like that. It shows some effort and care. Going down on a sasquatch is not fun. It inevitably leads to me choking on a hair and sometimes the hair can smell gamey if he showered in the morning and we are messing around later in the day.
dayglowpink
I always wanted to shave, but I had heard horror stories of how much it itched when growing back and that you had to shave every day to prevent the itching, etc. So I didn't do it for a long time, but then finally one day years ago, I said fuck it and gave it a try. I did not have any itching whatsoever, so I kept doing it. I only get itchy if I go for maybe 5 or 6 days without shaving. One of my ex-boyfriends preferred hairy, but he didn't have a problem with it being shaved. He told me a poem that some musician he knew had written:

SHAVED OR HAIRY?

Why do you insist on asking me
If I like it shaved or hairy?
That's like asking me
If I like the old one hundred dollar bills
Or the new one hundred dollar bills

Just give me the money


We thought that was pretty funny and cute. When I met my current boy, I was totally shaved and would get Brazilian waxes sometimes (I loved doing that, but it always gives me ingrown hairs). After we had been hooking up for a while, he asked me how I would feel about letting the hair at the top grow in. He prefers that to be hairy and the rest to be shaved. I was cool with that, so that's what I'm doing now. I let the top part get fairly long, and then I will trim it with clippers every now and then. I think it just really depends on the guy. My guess would be that younger guys tend to be more fixated on girls being shaved, but that's just a guess. My boy says that he developed the preference for hairy as he got older. On guys, I prefer hairy or trimmed to totally shaven. I've never really been with a super hairy guy with very coarse thick hair, though. I was only with one guy who shaved, and the stubble felt really irritating to me. The thing that I hate on myself is that I can't really shave it against the direction of hair growth and get it totally smooth, because my skin will get irritated, so it always feels a little prickly.
dayglowpink
Also, my boy and I have talked about how shaving/being totally hairless is really trendy for girls now, and it seems to be expected that most girls will do it. We watched this porn VHS from the early 90s that we found in his VCR when we got it out of storage, and none of the girls were totally shaved. Whereas with porn now, they are all shaved unless it is specifically hairy bush stuff. He always looks for that, cause he thinks the girls look more mature and have more character.
kelkello
I grew up stealing looks at my dad's playboy magazines, and never once did I see a shaved girl. I think it is a newer thing to expect to see it shaved. I just prefer the way it feels.
culturehandy
I've been shaving for 7 years now, and I'll never go back. I love the way sex feels. I love the fact that when I get wet that it gets everywhere. It's so sexy to feel just how wet I get. I agree about oral sex, it makes it feel amazing.

I've also never been a big fan of body hair on myself anyway. It has nothing to do with what's trendy or not.

dayglow, in terms of it itcing, if you use white deoderant where you shaved (but not your actual genitals) it cuts down on itching. I don't have any issues with itching at all.

Arcadia
Wow, see, that's what I was wondering. On the day after I shave it actually hurts. It's either painful or really itchy and I tend to get some shave bumps but they go away within two days. Deodorant, you say? I might have to try that!

As for the porn, I've noticed that too. I feel like it's a newer thing for women to be either trimmed down or bare. It's a new trend, I guess.
Arcadia
Oh and:

Yes, CH, I agree, I am a lot wetter than usual when shaved as well, but I think it's because usually I don't notice because the hair keeps me from noticing. So I might be the same amount of wetness. Who knows!

And Dayglow, that is a GREAT poem! It really made me laugh.
kelkello
I think once I started shaving I got wetter...it's just such a turn on for me to feel so smooth. I guess you could be right, Arcadia. Maybe the hair obscured the wetness, but it does seem like more.
Kalevra
Well, it seems that the general trend is for the hairless thing, and I must say that I am a practitioner for the 'no hair' argument. I dunno why, but for some reason it does seem more hygenic....but it also feels great. My last three GF's have all been smooth, whether by blade or by wax, the last one actually asked me if I was bothered about it...Not knowing why she asked, I duly said "Why would I be bothered?" and her reply was a little weird, her last BF said it was not on because it made him feel like he was getting it on with a 12yr old??!!! WTF? Certainly all of the ladies in question felt that they were more sensitive in the general area and LOVED having sensation on bare skin that would normally be covered with hair...and oral sex from my standpoint is a lot more hassle-free...no stopping to untangle one's teeth wink.gif
On a personal note, I sometimes remove everything, sometimes leave a little clump....all depends, but I do agree that there is a really nice sensation with underwear against your skin....all relevant girls have said how nice it is to have no hair around when going down....

All in all, I am all for bald smile.gif
culturehandy
Kal, I totally agree about a guy getting rid of ball and dick hair. I loathe going down on a guy that's got jungle-esque pubes. I don't need to be choking on hair when I suck cock.
dani837
Oooh I'v shaved it since I first got it! I haaate the idea of hair in women's body, so I shave eeeverything. I just prefer it this way. Plus I have a piercing down there, and it deeefinitely looks prettier as it is. I've never seen myself with a full grown amount of hair down there(because as I said, I started shaving it as soon as I started growing hair down there). I can't imagine myself with hair down there, no sire tongue.gif
And about guys shaving... I don't know...I think, it depends on the guy. I just had sex with a guy yesterday. EXCELLENT body, face of an angel, he's a GREAT catch but....small penis :'( And it was hair-free too, so in THAT case it didn't help at all cause it looked like a new-born hamster sad.gif sad.gif
I don't care if guys have hair as long as they trim it a little
kelkello
Ball hair is just the worst. A little well-trimmed thatch around the base is one thing, but that scraggly ball hair is not appetizing. I imagine, though, it might be hard to shave such crinkly skin.
mornington
I used to date a guy who disliked the shaved look for the same reason as that guy, kal.

The guy I'm with now prefers the shaved look, but I'm not keen on going completely bare; I keep a triangle in front. I'd never shaved before I started sleeping with him, but I too get a hell of lot wetter, it's rather nice wink.gif . He shaves too, although at my request he's stopped doing it quite so frequently, I like a little growth.

although yeeeech on the hair between the teeth. It's so much easier to go down on a guy without getting hair in your mouth more often than not. Especially if they've got a preference for having thier balls sucked.

culture, thanks for the deodorant tip. I get dreadful razor rash on my bikini line.
opheliathemuse
just a note from the other side:

I hate shaving because it hurts AND it makes me look 12; I literally do look 15 or so, depending upon what I am wearing. I need that hair to remind me I'm of age, damnit! wink.gif And I LOOOOOOOOOOOVE men's pubic hair. I very nicely asked O to stop trimming, because I find it effeminate and at odds with my basis for attraction. I don't mind trimming or waxing underneath; I just like a nice large patch to say, "Hi, I'm a woman, not a girl."
zoya
yeah I like some manscaping - but not completely clean shaven front on guys. I was with a guy once who shaved everything and it just seemed kinda weird to me....not to mention he had a GIGANTIC penis and it made it look even bigger, which was actually kind of terrifying. I most definitely like no hair on the shaft (like some guys have at the bottom of the shaft) though. Not a fan of ball hair either,but seriously, I cannot imagine what it would be like to get it off there, so I can deal with it. I've never been with a guy who had much hair on them anyway, so it's never bugged me too much.

Seeing as I'm a girl who likes to give the nipples some attention, I have to say that overall manscaping is always appreciated. Nice, trim chest hair (if they have it) is good. Getting a long chest hair stuck in the teeth is icky. I've only ever gone out with one guy who was really hairy so I haven't had to deal with any huge bushy hairy parts on a regular basis, but pretty much every guy can stand some trimming.

... I hope this is informative to all of you men wink.gif
erinjane
QUOTE(opheliathemuse @ May 28 2007, 02:40 PM) *
just a note from the other side:

I hate shaving because it hurts AND it makes me look 12; I literally do look 15 or so, depending upon what I am wearing. I need that hair to remind me I'm of age, damnit! wink.gif And I LOOOOOOOOOOOVE men's pubic hair. I very nicely asked O to stop trimming, because I find it effeminate and at odds with my basis for attraction. I don't mind trimming or waxing underneath; I just like a nice large patch to say, "Hi, I'm a woman, not a girl."



I'm with you for the same reasons. Totally shaved, I felt like I looked way too young and it freaked me out. And I'm with you too on the men's pubic hair thing. I don't really find it effeminate, I just love the way it looks.
culturehandy
I leave a patch, athe landing strip, as long as my labia are hair free, that's what matters to me, as we get into the superwetness factor.

I like body hair everywhere else on a man, a hair free man is just weird. I was with a guy who did that. Waxed, shaved, naired whatever. It was just weird.
maimy
I combine shaving and Nair for myself, and have excellent luck with it. Waxing never kept the hair off any longer than shaving, so the expense, driving and time out of a day (not to mention the sticky feeling afterward and the way that made me feel dirty in a less-than-titillating way) seemed to me a colossal waste of time. YMMV of course.

As to men, I like their hair. I like chest hair, arm hair, leg hair. kog3100 is a naturally very smooth man, but I used to date a guy who had the most wonderful black treasure trail. It wasn't tons of hair, but he was naturally raven, so I tended to look like I'd been wrestling a bear after sex, it amused me endlessly. He used to sleep with one leg between mine sometimes, and I loved the sensation of his hair against my smooth calves. He looked like Randolph Mantooth from "Emergency!" too, not that that's apropos of anything - I just had a big baby crush on him when I was a kid watching that show. Heh.

I am NOT into shaving on a man. I've known a couple guys who shaved; one was a model, one was something of a rock star (he marinated in baby oil; not the manliest scent in the world ...). Both looked weird to me, being rather brawny and completely hairless. It sort of wigged me out. Pubically, a trim is all I want in a guy, and everywhere else - keep it natural, guys. I like a man to look like a man.

This said, I did mention that kog3100 is smooth as he's made. The fineness of his skin is intoxicating, but absolutely natural. I love to lick him in every way, every place, and I think if the effect were achieved by shaving it would distract me. Stubble doesn't do it for me, and a few hairs between the teeth never bothered me (before him). He's close to black-haired himself, and yet the texture of his hair is very fine. So the springy, slightly thicker curls trimmed around his cock are exciting, different, and I love the way they look and the way they hold the deepest essence of his perfume. (He's the most immaculate man I've ever known, but the scent of his body is incredible to me ...)

Good lord, I am all distracted now. I miss that guy an awful lot. Yum.
mornington
count me in on the ewww for hair-free men. I like the feeling of hair on arms, legs, chests... even backs. F isn't particularly hairy, and I - personally - like his beard/goatee/sideburns. I've got horrifically ticklish/touch-sensitive skin so it feels way to weird otherwise. I've never been bothered on the shaving pubic hair thing before him, and I'm trying to keep him to trimming, not shaving. Mind you, I'd throw a fit if he insisted on me shaving, so I guess I can't object. much.

I don't wax because of my skin's sensitivity. That and the last time I tried waxing my legs, it hurt like buggery, and left me with hair but no skin. Which, I think, is not the point.
kelkello
I used to have a weird phobia about hairy men until I dated a guy who was practically a sasquatch, and I got over it. I still prefer just a little chest hair...maybe a happy trail, but leg hair and arm hair don't bother me unless it reaches Robin Williams-like proportions.
boblink
Opheliathemuse,

Please excuse my changing the hairy subject momentarily. I confess my literary ignorance and ask for identiy of the willow and the ecstatic garlands quoted. Enlighten me, please?
sybarite
UK-based defuzzers, I swear by lashings of Savlon cream post-wax. There's this other stuff (um, also used for diaper/nappy rash) in a grey tub that works even better, but I'm blanking on the name. Both are over-the-counter.

Personally I wax to keep tidy but leave a triangle; my mister is one of those who isn't into the all-over shaved look. (He also says even waxing is barbaric because of the pain, but we're both happier post-wax, aesthetically.)

I have been hairfree before and agree that it feels great, but I'm too lazy for such extensive upkeep.
mornington
sudocrem... or bepanethen. I think. I do not know why I know this.
edie52
I hate the razor burn and stubble after shaving, so I just trim. I've been thinking of getting a wax though. Does waxing cause irritation? Should you be trimmed to a certain length before going in? It's kind of imtimidating to me because I don't know the ettiquette...

I've only had one complaint about the hair (years ago, from an inexperienced, immature virgin). No one alse has said anything, except one guy who said he liked hair (it was winter so I stopped shaving my legs too!). While everyone must have their preferences, I think a mature man could deal with whatever comes up. I would understand if someone preferred it bare and would consider trying it but I'd be unimpressed to say the least if they expected it, or implied that the vulva in it's natural state was gross or socially unacceptable.

Maimy, does the Nair work well for you? Why do you have to shave and use Nair? (I've used it on my legs, years ago, and remember it not working as magically well as I imagined.)
sybarite
Mornington, 'tis indeed sudocrem. It makes things muckier again post-wax, but if you sleep with it on the next day should be irritation free. I usually abstain the first night after waxing anyway. It lasts 3-5 weeks for me, personally,

Edie, it's a good idea to trim first because it will hurt less. Essentially the longer the hairs are, the more yanking them out(sorry!) hurts and the less thorough the results. Fyi, what usually happens is they ask you how much you want off (unless it's a full wax you can indicate this by positioning your undies as high on your thigh as the area you want waxed), then they put on some rubbing alcohol followed by baby powder, followed by the wax itself.

If you ever feel the wax is too hot, say so immediately, or your skin could be damaged.

/slight derailment
Kalevra
Well there you have it! Thank the lord for differing tatse's eh! Some like hair some not, I think the general consensus here is that we all love each others (pertaining to our SO's, past flings and simple 'squeezes') bodies enough to keep exploring them. Thats what it's all about. Maimy is defo in love...I picked that up too from her dreamy ramblings tongue.gif good on yer.

I have a hairy chest, hairy legs, hairy arms but no hairy back (apart from a little clump at the base of my spine) and up until about 2 years ago, never really gave 'preening' much thought. Then I met a girl who waxed EVERYTHING off of her body, and I was intrigued, turned on and bemused all at the same time. After some time, we started experimentin on me....waxing hurts like )&*(^*&%...we Nair'd the chest (after first taking the beard trimmer to it) and my lord what a difference, bearing in mind that we live in 120F with humidity approaching 80% so the RELIEF was awesome.....I nair the chest once a week now, purely for the comfort.....
The pubes, they go from trimmed ....to gone.....to some growth....depending on my moods. laugh.gif
tyger
the boything really doesn't like body hair on his own body, but it totally fine with my limited grooming (i shave my legs/armpits rarely, and trim my pubes with scissors when i decide they've gotten too long). every once in a while i'll wax my inner thighs where my pubic hair has migrated and taken up camp, but that's about it. my theory is my body is how it likes to be, so unless it actually gets in the way of anything i don't have to change much at all
maimy
Edie, I use Nair on the labia majora and back to the anus because it seems to complete that area with a flawless finish, and also because reaching there with a razor is a pain in the ass (and, as recently shaving the area reminded me after a long time, THAT is the spot where shaven hair growing back in itches most on me). I have excellent luck with it, and don't even use the sensitive formula myself. This is not necessarily recommended for everyone, of course!

The reason I shave the mons is that for that area, because of directional hair growth, the razor cuts MUCH closer and lasts as much as two days longer than Nair would (I prefer the closest, smoothest shave/depilation humanly possible; oddly, this is why I've never been satisified with waxing). Nair causes me no issues whatever on the labia, but is too hard on my mound and leaves me red and sensitive. Seems counterintuitive, but that's the way I work, so I go with it.

As to shaving, I always use a brand new fresh razor, then go on to my legs. I've never really used the Nair on my legs, though I probably should at least try. Of course, there again, I shave my legs three times in every hairgrowth direction, so would probably not be satisfied with the depilation of Nair. I'm rawther retentive in this area ... Oy.
edie52
Thanks! I may try Nair before I take the leap of going in for a wax.

I have removed it all before, and it looked weird on me (partly because I took the shaving route, which left stubble and razor burn and had an unfortunate plucked chicken effect). I actually saw something in a women's magazine once that illustrated the best pubic hair styles for your body type. The most slender/boyish one had the largest patch of hair, which was claimed to make one look more curvy and womanly.
maimy
Ahh, the refreshing dictatorial spirit of "women's" magazines. This Is How You Need to Be - We Will Insist.

(Oy. Reason number seven thousand, three hundred forty-eight why I do not read those things. How bizarre!)
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