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kittenb
It can really be an act of courage to stand straight. Everything looks different in your figure. However, as you noticed, it is something that is within your control.
Having watched my mother get diagnosed w/degenerative arthritis in her neck and knowing that the women in my family tend to shrink as they get older, I really try hard not to slouch. I don't want to be in that kind of pain. I think that is why people tend to think I weigh less than I do. I don't carry myself the way a 185 person is "supposed" to.
People can watch out for their own I eyes I figure. wink.gif
pug
I have horrible posture. It's something I try to think about and correct, but it's impossible to think about it 24 hours a day. Sometimes I pass by mirrors and think to myself: Oh dear God, I need to fix my posture!
Girl, frustrated
I think this is a great forum. everyone is talking about getting bigger boobs...but women with large breasts know it is not a walk in the park... i am 5'6, 110 pounds...with a 34DD. i have considered reduction...but the cost, time off work, the pain...it is not an easy decision to make.
blackscorpion
QUOTE(mamsack @ Jul 6 2008, 11:47 AM) *
[quote name='auralpoison' I'd rather be judged on my supersize boobs than live in a mudhut in Rawanda, y'know what I mean?
that's for dang sure. good answer

Two things:
1) AP, did you send me that quote for the clothes (comment, below)? could you post it here?
2) blackscorpion, sorry you're having a rough time. i, for one, don't care if you're a lesbian and got my own boobs to stare at wink.gif ignore everyone else and just enjoy your girlfriend and your boobs. and her boobs. smile.gif



Thanks so much, mamsack. I am really glad for this site, it really makes me feel comfortable. And yes, I do enjoy my girlfriend's boobs very much wink.gif. We had a ton of fun ordering bras online the other day, actually. Anyone know a site where we can find some cheaper ones? (My g/f is a 32 G, she's just as difficult to shop for as I am).
candycane_girl
kittenb, I once had a massage therapist who would massage my pec area. I mostly saw her for my back but during the massage she would have me turn over and massage me just above my breasts. It was crazy how tight those muscles felt! I kind of wish I could find someone like her again because she was really good at deep tissue massages.

I haven't lost any weight yet (I haven't really been trying very hard) but I'm curious about how it will affect my bra size. Right now I'm a 40DD and I just want to be a bit smaller! I'd be happy being a 38D.
vesta
Girl, frustrated, I had a reduction just about 2 years ago and it was one of the best decisions I have made regarding my body. I was miserable (at the chiropractor on average 4 times a week). My medical insurance actually covered most of it as "medically necessary." Recovery wasn't too bad. Just make sure you find a doc you're comfortable with. Looking back on it, I almost wish I had had the guts to take off a little more! I was so used to having these enormous breasts that I was scared to go too "small" (I went from an DDD to a C). Good luck!
suburbangirl
QUOTE(missladyj @ Feb 24 2008, 09:11 AM) *
If you are anywhere near Chicago I would suggest my favorite bra store Schwartz's Intimates which I googled and found this link:

http://www.mrbra.com/braslingeriestoreplussize.ivnu
I hope you find a place near y ou! Good luck!

missladyj


What a small world. I kid you not. After months and months (years, really) of looking for a store that sells large cup bra-sized swimwear, I decided this morning to stop into the Betty Schwart'z store in Buffalo Grove (NW of Chicago, for the non-natives). A lady at Nordstrom told me try them.

I had a really bad experience. As soon as I walked in I was greeted by an older brunette and she asked what I was looking for. I asked if they had bra sized swimsuits. She asked what size and I told her 36H or I in a 14. She sneered at me as she said, "We never carried that size. You'd think I'd asked her to sniff dog poo. Then she grabbed the tag of a 40D swimsuit and said, "We have these." Ummm....okay. Idiot. mad.gif Then I asked her if she knew of another retailer that did sell large cup swimwear. She said, "I don't know of any place that has things like that."

Rude, rude, rude. I left in such a pissed off mood. And now I am surfing the net looking for something, anything, that doesn't involve me ordering 20 swimsuits and returning 19 of them in the off-chance that one will fit.

I live in the third largest city in the United States, and not one fricking store carries my size! And to add insult to injury, I have to put up with rude, insulting salespeople who think I'm some sort of freak of nature. What gives?
pug
suburbangirl, I am so sorry! That is horrible! I have also had horrible experiences at several places so I know how you feel. In a similar situation I scoured the internet looking for something that would work. I finally stumbled on http://www.lionslairdesigns.com/. I was really afraid of ordering swimsuits online/over the phone but I called (with my measurements) and the woman I talked to sent me the most detailed email of my life explaining my size and what swimsuit would work best. I have a lot of difficulty fitting correctly in bras and swimsuits so I told her my issues and still didn't hold out a lot of hope. I received my swimsuit and it fit BETTER than my own bras! It was amazing. I highly recommend them!

And as a bonus all of the sales people I talked to were extremely nice!
suburbangirl
I have tried some of the clothes that the UK based www.bravissimo.com sells and they really are great! But the shipping can get costly for those of us in North America, especially if we need to return something. Does anyone know of a US or Canadian based company like this that sells tailored clothing specifically for busty women who aren't sized 18+? Since I am plump in the hip and rear I have had limited luck with the smaller sizes from www.Kiyonna.com, as they allow for bustier figures, but sometimes their tops are too long or more ample in the waist where I don't need it.
missladyj
suburban girl,
I'm sorry you had such a shitty expirence at Scharwtz's that sucks. which suburb are you in?
hellotampon
wow, suburban girl, it sounds like you grew those boobs on purpose, just to piss that lady off.
pug
I really wish there was a bravissimo in the US. Nothing would make me happier.
mamsack

Ok, I was logging in to post WTF gives with trying to buy swimwear??! and I saw this. Yes, have had that experience. Alot. (Victoria's Secret, blow me.) I thought I found a good line (today) of swimwear called Coco, but they appear to only go to 40D or 40DD. WTF, again, I say? anyone have any luck with swimwear (tops)?


QUOTE(suburbangirl @ Jul 19 2008, 10:58 PM) *
What a small world. I kid you not. After months and months (years, really) of looking for a store that sells large cup bra-sized swimwear, I decided this morning to stop into the Betty Schwart'z store in Buffalo Grove (NW of Chicago, for the non-natives). A lady at Nordstrom told me try them.

I had a really bad experience. As soon as I walked in I was greeted by an older brunette and she asked what I was looking for. I asked if they had bra sized swimsuits. She asked what size and I told her 36H or I in a 14. She sneered at me as she said, "We never carried that size. You'd think I'd asked her to sniff dog poo. Then she grabbed the tag of a 40D swimsuit and said, "We have these." Ummm....okay. Idiot. mad.gif Then I asked her if she knew of another retailer that did sell large cup swimwear. She said, "I don't know of any place that has things like that."

Rude, rude, rude. I left in such a pissed off mood. And now I am surfing the net looking for something, anything, that doesn't involve me ordering 20 swimsuits and returning 19 of them in the off-chance that one will fit.

I live in the third largest city in the United States, and not one fricking store carries my size! And to add insult to injury, I have to put up with rude, insulting salespeople who think I'm some sort of freak of nature. What gives?

suburbangirl
QUOTE(mamsack @ Jul 23 2008, 07:10 PM) *
Ok, I was logging in to post WTF gives with trying to buy swimwear??! and I saw this. Yes, have had that experience. Alot. (Victoria's Secret, blow me.) I thought I found a good line (today) of swimwear called Coco, but they appear to only go to 40D or 40DD. WTF, again, I say? anyone have any luck with swimwear (tops)?


mamsack, try Breakout Bras. I just bought that swimsuit on clearance and with the 25% off coupon, it only cost me $42, and free shipping is standard. The only catch is that there are no returns on clearance items. If it doesn't fit me I will simply list it on eBay or something. That Panache suit, and other UK lines are different in the cup sizes for anything above a D, but there is a conversion table there....but you probably already knew this. I still wish there was a local brick and mortar store that sold a variety of suits like our smaller busted girlfriends have access to.
mamsack
QUOTE(suburbangirl @ Jul 23 2008, 09:36 PM) *
mamsack, try Breakout Bras. I just bought that swimsuit on clearance and with the 25% off coupon, it only cost me $42, and free shipping is standard. The only catch is that there are no returns on clearance items. If it doesn't fit me I will simply list it on eBay or something. That Panache suit, and other UK lines are different in the cup sizes for anything above a D, but there is a conversion table there....but you probably already knew this. I still wish there was a local brick and mortar store that sold a variety of suits like our smaller busted girlfriends have access to.


great, thank you! too bad they have so few styles, but nice to have a choice. Glad they have a conversion table--I understood Euro sizes were different but would totally have forgotten about it! Thanks.
LoveMyPugs
Has anyone ever heard of the Enell Sports bra??

website:

http://www.enell.com/

very expensive but i'm seriously considering getting one. they look great.
p_176
i can't find the link anymore, but it was on a list of top ten sport bras for big-breasted women. they're supposed to be good support for high impact activities.
mamsack
QUOTE(LoveMyPugs @ Jul 30 2008, 08:54 AM) *
Has anyone ever heard of the Enell Sports bra??

website:

http://www.enell.com/

very expensive but i'm seriously considering getting one. they look great.


Holy cow, I could go into space with that bra.
mamsack
QUOTE(mamsack @ Jul 30 2008, 06:42 PM) *
Holy cow, I could go into space with that bra.


I take it back, they only go to DDD. Now hear ye, BRA MAKERS! Swimsuit designers! Sports bra constructors! Women over DDD NEED SUPPORT! dang it.
suburbangirl
QUOTE(mamsack @ Jul 30 2008, 06:45 PM) *
I take it back, they only go to DDD. Now hear ye, BRA MAKERS! Swimsuit designers! Sports bra constructors! Women over DDD NEED SUPPORT! dang it.


Try this Freya sports bra, in sizes up to H in UK sizes, which is a K in US cups. ( http://www.herroom.com/Freya-4002-Underwire-Sport-Bra.shtml on sale here: http://breakoutbras.stores.yahoo.net/frachiimunsp.html ) I just got it recently and love it, because it is one of the few smooth styles that is underwire and keeps the girls from getting that uni-boob look.
LoveMyPugs
QUOTE(mamsack @ Jul 30 2008, 07:45 PM) *
I take it back, they only go to DDD. Now hear ye, BRA MAKERS! Swimsuit designers! Sports bra constructors! Women over DDD NEED SUPPORT! dang it.


mamsack - they custom make you one if you don't fit into one of the sizes they have listed. that's why i'm so psyched about them.
mamsack
QUOTE(LoveMyPugs @ Jul 31 2008, 03:36 PM) *
mamsack - they custom make you one if you don't fit into one of the sizes they have listed. that's why i'm so psyched about them.


WOO!
BustiRubi
I removed some worry from my life today. I have decided it's time for a breast reduction!

I can only do this because my insurance covers it. And believe me I qualify for this. I have a petite frame i'm 19 and about a G cup size i'm only 5'2"! i have suffered from back pain and all the negative associated with it for 5 years,ever since i began to develop. I'm so fed up.

but really, that adds a little worry about the outcome. Its a big change for me. Any busties out there who have had one or about to have one with any advice to calm the anxiety?????

I have always been comfortable with my body and with who I am. it also took a loong time to get here, to accept myself..and now I'm changing it..
hcbeck
I haven't been around for a while and have only checked back the last two months for this link and haven't found it yet, but some of you may find it interesting: three bra-fitting videos on a UK lingerie site:

http://www.naturallyclose.co.uk/page?pageId=1967

The first shows how to measure your band size and stops there, but the other two might be useful.
spinstergirl
I had a breast reduction when I was 23 (I'm 31 now). I did it while I was still under my parents insurance and I've never regretted it for a second. I'm a full c (down from probably a g) and I love it. I do have some scarring and I do lack sensation, but I can run! I can wear normal clothing and look normal, not slutty (unless I want to). It was scary and it is a big deal, but I'm glad I did it!



QUOTE(BustiRubi @ Aug 6 2008, 11:21 PM) *
I removed some worry from my life today. I have decided it's time for a breast reduction!

I can only do this because my insurance covers it. And believe me I qualify for this. I have a petite frame i'm 19 and about a G cup size i'm only 5'2"! i have suffered from back pain and all the negative associated with it for 5 years,ever since i began to develop. I'm so fed up.

but really, that adds a little worry about the outcome. Its a big change for me. Any busties out there who have had one or about to have one with any advice to calm the anxiety?????

I have always been comfortable with my body and with who I am. it also took a loong time to get here, to accept myself..and now I'm changing it..

Queen Bull
QUOTE(LoveMyPugs @ Jul 30 2008, 09:54 AM) *
Has anyone ever heard of the Enell Sports bra??

website:

http://www.enell.com/

very expensive but i'm seriously considering getting one. they look great.

Um, im not sure how delayed this is, but to anyone that wonders, Enells are apparently amazing. My mother, a DDD uses them when she runs, and LOVES it. she has gotten to the point, where she actually wheres them most of the time. [ she not much for showing off the girls] But, yes. take the leap, and get an Enell, because while wearing it, you will be able to do so without poking your eye. XD

<3's
anna k
I got this quote from the small-breasted thread, but felt it was more appropriate here:

QUOTE
And you're right men are very visual. My girlfriends who look at porn, all acknowledge that we look at porn differently than the men in our lives. We can take it or leave it.


I get uncomfortable if I feel like men who flirt with me or are interested me are looking at my breasts first, like that's the most attractive part of me. It felt like for years I was either hit on for my breasts (breasts first, face second, it felt like) or would try talking to a guy who I liked and he would just stare at me and not talk to me normally. I usually wear a button-down shirt over a tank top, not wanting to draw attention to them.

Even if I'm in a sexual situation and having them played with, if I'm with a guy I'm not into, it can make me feel bored and slightly disgusted, like feeling like my breasts are big playthings for them.
deschatsrouge
QUOTE(anna k @ Aug 20 2008, 05:23 PM) *
I get uncomfortable if I feel like men who flirt with me or are interested me are looking at my breasts first, like that's the most attractive part of me. It felt like for years I was either hit on for my breasts (breasts first, face second, it felt like) or would try talking to a guy who I liked and he would just stare at me and not talk to me normally. I usually wear a button-down shirt over a tank top, not wanting to draw attention to them.

Even if I'm in a sexual situation and having them played with, if I'm with a guy I'm not into, it can make me feel bored and slightly disgusted, like feeling like my breasts are big playthings for them.


I'm with you on that. I feel unlikeable or uninteresting. The only good part about me was my tits. It was one of the reasons I stopped having relationships with men. They were only in it for my tits.
auralpoison
I just want to give a shout out to boobies. We're so negative up in here. I know it's hard to find a decent bra or bathing suit, it sucks when somebody says/does something shitty to make you feel bad or fetishizes you. But for five minutes, FIVE minutes, will you give your tetas some props, ladies? Even if it's just in the privacy of your bedroom, just love yourself, ALL of yourself for five minutes.

Y'know what? I LIKE MY TITS, ALL 38DD OF THEM! If some dillhole wants to marginalize me for it, she/he better expect to hear about it because not only do I have a tremendous rack, but a tremendously LOUD voice & katana verbal skillz. My breasts do NOT DEFINE ME! They do not make me a whore. They don't make me loose, they don't make me lucky. They aren't perfect by a long shot, but they are MINE! AND I LOVE THEM!

That is all.
Queen Bull
WOOHOO! IM with AP, hooray boobies!
anna k
AP, mine are a 38DDD as well, and I love them too. They're beautiful and they fit my body perfectly and they'e gorgeous.
kittenb
This is funny, I was taking my laundry down this morning thinking about corsets and how nice it is that someone invented the bra (I don't know why my mind went here but anyway). I really like my breasts. They are pretty and soft and a nice color (god they are white! All the paleness in my body is focused right there.) And I love how, when I wear one of Lane Bryant's Cachique Balconnette bras, they make me look a little bit thinner. tongue.gif
thirtiesgirl
BOOBIES!!!
<3 <3 <3

...Seriously, I was looking at my big ones in the mirror the other day while lying on my bed (no, I don't have a mirrored ceiling; I was using a hand mirror!) and I have to say, I developed a new appreciation for them. I've always been concerned about the way they kind of flop over when I'm lying flat on my back, but after looking at them in the mirror, I began to realize it's not as horrible as I assumed and they still retain their shape quite nicely. They're just a little bit more...on the side.
auralpoison
I don't care if you have mountains or molehills. LOVE YOUR BODY, IT'S THE ONLY ONE YOU HAVE IN YOUR CURRENT PHYSICAL MANIFESTATION!

I know a lot of our tiny tit sisters have issues with their little boobies & our big ones. THEY ARE ALL BEAUTIFUL! We spend so much time hating our bodies & wanting to be something else instead of loving ourselves. The big boobie girls want to be smaller, the little boobie girls want to big. Why not be happy with what you've got? We're all sexy as HELL. Tiny pillows of flesh are gorgeous, so are more meaty ones. It's the brains behind them that make them so great.

It bothers me so much that we feel the need to divide & conquer when it comes to tits. The little girls feel unfeminine; the big girls feel marginalized. I hate that they create a divide amongst us. I'd never refer to my small boob sisters as frigid, but it seems okay for them to regard us as whores because we are prodigiously lunged. It's fucked! We're all on the same team! TEAM TITTIE!

Think about if we had wangs. Wangs are not very sexy. But breasts . . . I don't care if you have little pencil erasers or fat nips, they are all GOOD. A lovely tiny tit is sexy, a fleshy one is too. Your boobs are fucking hot whether you feel weird about them or not.

Breasts are a target because they are visible. Our pussies are tucked away neatly. They aren't threatening because they can't be seen. But our boobs are right out there, ready to be judged. LOVE YOURSELF! Don't let assholes devalue you over some skin & fat!

I have to give props to AnnaK. She posts the most positive, body affirming things. We've seen her pics, she's HAWT! And she'd still be hot if she were an Acup because she loves her bod & recognizes her strength as a woman. Big boobs don't make you a woman. Only *YOU* can make yourself feel womanly.

GT has penis & she doesn't have big boobies. She's still gorgeous & a bigger girl than I am. I love her as she is. In fact, I am deeply envious of her because she is so fucking gorgeous, tiny boobies & all. She owns her shit as a woman.
anna k
Thank you auralpoison for saying that about me. It means a lot coming from you, since I have been fascinated by your life experiences and razor-sharp intelligence.

Whenever I love my breasts, I can feel so sensual and happy. I can feel like a Russ Meyer babe, a comic book heroine (I watched a special on superhero comic books on the History Channel, and afterwards looked in the mirror and loved that I had big breasts and a fit shape like the comic babes), a Victorian dame with pale skin and big bosoms, or any other kind of fantasy figure with big breasts that would make me feel sexy and happy within myself.

Girltrouble is sexy and gorgeous and badass, and we have great conversations about film, she's turned me on to filmmakers and styles I've barely heard of, but want to explore via Netflix because of her.

thirtiesgirl, I've had the same feeling too of lying down and feeling my breasts sink on my chest, like a heavy weight, then catching myself in a mirror (like at the gym) and feeling dead sexy.
crinoline
I don't usually intrude here, but AP - you seriously rule.
Know that not all of us tiny tits judge our larger breasted sisters for their mammary advantage. Some of us are rootin for all the members of the same team. WOOT! TEAM TITTIE!!!!
neurotic.nelly
*delurks*

WOOT! WOOT! WOOT! HOWL! & WOOF! To what AP said!! HELL YEAH!!

*relurks*
auralpoison
Word, AnnaK! Faster pussycat, KILL KILL!

Neurotic.Nelly, we haven't always been on the same page. But you back your shit up. You don't pussyfoot & you aren't weak on your positions. That makes me respect the hell out of you. I don't care what kind of boobies you have, I'd motorboat you into tomorrow for having the ovaries to get up on your hind legs & make some points. Brrrrrrrr!

And Crino, you are particularly sensitive to others needs. You are so insightful. Christ, I wish I had even a tenth of what you have going on. I'd motorboat you, too.

I just want us to love us as we are & to be unified. WE ARE FUCKING HOT! Anybody that's managed to stay a Bustie is a badass force to be reckoned with. She is a hurricane, a tidal wave, a trial by fire. Her tits are to be worshipped like the gloriousness that they are, big or small or none at all. You can't handle that then you better step, junior!

ETA, I almost NEVER go into the small bust thread. It makes me feel bad about myself because there is a lot of harshness there. Somehow it hurts more when another woman calls you a slut/disrespects you simply because you have big boobs.
thirtiesgirl
A little Russ Meyer/Tura Satana action set to one of my favorite songs evah ~ check it out, ladies: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T86YAN2T-hs
crinoline
awww, thanks AP! I'd motorboat you too! *swiftly duct tapes tiny boobs together to facilitate motorboatin'*
neurotic.nelly
hey thanks, AP! I think it was AnnaK who mentioned being in admiration of your razor sharp wit & intellect (in another thread), I second that emotion. Sometimes, I'm like "dammmnnnnnnnnn!" at some of the things that you write.

Your comments below about breasts were sooooooo right on! I mean, excellent. excellent points!

GO TEAM TITTIE!!!!

Now it's my turn, "Brrrrrrr!", motorboat, right back at ya!

**********************************************************
crinoline, this, *swiftly duct tapes tiny boobs together to facilitate motorboatin'*, made me smile. you got jokes! Woot!
Vendetta


ETA, I almost NEVER go into the small bust thread. It makes me feel bad about myself because there is a lot of harshness there. Somehow it hurts more when another woman calls you a slut/disrespects you simply because you have big boobs.
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I had never seen harshness towards large ladies in there. Have you, honestly?
auralpoison
I wouldn't have said it if I hadn't meant it. I'm not one for just making stuff up.

ETA, I must admit I find it interesting that that was the only thing you actually glommed onto from what I said. You took none of the positive stuff, none of the love & just picked up on the one thing that could be possibly construed as negative.

It's not constant & I'm sure it's not everybody, but the one time I ventured in there, there \ was one particular post that wasn't very nice. I understood that the gal was frustrated & angry, but it's not my fault that genetics decided to give me huge boobs & her small ones.
girltrouble
wait a second...
QUOTE
GT has penis & she doesn't have big boobies. She's still gorgeous & a bigger girl than I am. I love her as she is. In fact, I am deeply envious of her because she is so fucking gorgeous, tiny boobies & all. She owns her shit as a woman.
*checks her panties*

blink.gif

alright.... who put a hotlink in my pants?



my ears were burning and i couldn't figure out what thread it was in, and i pop in here looking to harass aural (tag, now you have to call me!) and i hear she has been talking me up! hmph!

you stop that, aural. here i am sitting infront of my computer wearing my official bustie muu muu, a green mud mask, a bean mustache from my lunch, picking my butt and i'm told i'm gorgeous? sorry that'll take a good hour of hosing off from crew of firemen. tongue.gif


btw:aural i am ready to have your interweb babehs again!
hellotampon
The other day I was sweaty, so I put powder in my cleavage. Such an old lady thing to do, but it worked like a charm! haha.
sniggles
Hello Big Busties,

Does anyone know of anywhere that sells fitness swimsuits for us larger busted girls?? I'm just starting to get into swimming and am psyched about that, but I am seriously bummed out cuz I'm having so much trouble finding a comfortable one-piece. Nothing fancy, just something comfy to swim laps in. I found one on the Speedo website, but it's in the UK and doesn't deliver to US, and the US site has no such suits!! There has got to be some other big boobed swimmers out there, right??! This is really depressing. sad.gif
freckleface7
sniggles: check out a site called uniquelyme.com .
it's got clothes & a line of bathing suits (called 'Always for me' ?) and I think is based in the Us.
have not ordered from them before (so cannot vouche for anything) but have been getting their emails & their prices look pretty good.
hellotampon
I've been insanely stressed out lately because of my job. Like, I just want to cry all the time, and I have this constant nagging anxiety.

I already hate it when guys stare at my chest, and lately I just cannot deal with it. The other night at the state fair everyone and their frigging dad had to gawk at my boobs. Yes, I had a tanktop with some cleavage showing, but what the hell is the difference? My boobs are big. They look even bigger in a turtleneck than a low-cut shirt, which is at least more comfy and less restrictive. Thankfully I was with my boyfriend and a guy friend, so all the men did was stare- no muttering disrespectful things under their breath as I passed or anything.

How hard is it to look away? You would think we grew boobs just for them! One of these days I'm going to tell someone if he doesn't stop staring I'm gonna scratch his eyes out.
freckleface7
I will admit that sometimes I wear t shirts that fit not snugly, but well, yes- make my girls look good.
but I get tired of wearing shapeless tents in order to what- disguise that I have breasts?
you're so right ht, it gets Old.

esp when wearing said fitted t the other night, and creepy pizza delivery dude gawked at me or should I say them and made me feel sooooo skeevy! mad.gif
I wanted to yell ' hey- I'm not wearing this for YOU bozo, I'm wearing it for ME ' bc it's one of my favorite shirts that just Happens to be fitted. I'm not trying to draw attention, not showing off, I wanted to wear a shirt that shows I still have a waisteline, something the tent shirts obliterate.

let's all get t-shirts printed w/ really small print that says " my eyes are up here " w/ a small arrow pointing up.
and maybe the word 'jerk' on back too? laugh.gif
girltrouble
i posted this in the smawl bewbies thread, but i think i should xpost it here:
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as for that Pavlovian saliva response to other women, most guys do it because they are taught that is acceptable. that "that's what men do." and just like most women were socialized around women, most guys were socialized around guys. with guys lots of there bad habits are what i like to call "proofs." proofs are a way for boys to prove they are masculine, that they aren't gay. with boys you have to think about some animal that needs to make a show about their virility to spook off their competitors. i've said it before, contrary to what most people think, masculinity is a very fragile thing-- it is constantly needing repair, and defending. at any moment guys masculinity can be called to the floor for a vote. i'd imagine the closest thing-- or the first thing that comes to my mind is mothers. they are perpetually having their motherhood into question. by ads, other people, friends, etc. the same with men. everything he does becomes a proof. think about it. he can look good, but not too good. he can have interests, but only certain interests. everything-- even who he dates, and the car he drives are proof to some degree. most guys are terrified of looking gay. i wouldn't even call it homophobia, because i think i fear of the feminine enters into it too, but they can't see how it's a sucker's game. so as boys they get in this habit of proving that masculinity, and eventually men-- and women-- think it's genetic wiring. i suppose to a degree it is. but only a small degree. ritual becomes habitual.


that said, i think if i guy oggles you, you should lay into him. call him a perv, a shit head and anything else that crosses your mind. the above is not meant to be an excuse, but just to understand the behavior. i wish that more women would lay into guys, they equate bad behavior with masculinity. the need to be disabused of this.

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