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girltrouble
thanks for the update, L3.

and here i am showing a little faith in debbie. we'll see how much that faith yields.

honestly though i don't mind cranking up again. i think this is something worth fighting for. we've lost too many good busties for something so easily dispatched.

i think there is something to be said for busties having a place where we don't have to worry about steve scaring off newbies. where they feel safe discussing sensative issues in the lounge.

i know i come across as an insufferable pain in the ass, but i don't care. i love the lounge to much to leave this job undone.

this to me seems such a small thing, barely a concession, and the potentual effect would be enormous.

i don't think it's too much to ask.

and if the answer is no, i don't think knowing why is too much either.


janeinane
"i know i come across as an insufferable pain in the ass..."

No, you don't. Your care is admirable! For what it's worth, I agree with the idea of the a bustie "trolligator" mod -- why not try something different for a change? Shake it up ... we can return to as is if it doesn't work.
stargazer
****TROLL ALERT*****





GO AWAY!! mad.gif
faerietails
*eyeroll*

Mmhmm, yeah. You're so witty for using my pic again, Steve. Really.

Like...I'm not even gonna bother with avatars/ignoring anymore (actually, I never did bother with avatars...). Few things gross/freak me out, and dead babies aren't it, bless my icy black heart. Besides, the baby guts bring out my lovely skin tone.
girltrouble
wow is he played out.

yawn. hey, faerie! welcome back chica! good to see you and yue back!


hey! has anyone seen debbie?!?


faerietails
*waves at gt*

yeah, i was working insane hours the first half of june, and out of state with sketchy internet the second half. a fireman stripper put my hands on his rock hard ass at my friend's bachelorette party, though, so it wasn't a total loss. wink.gif

i appreciate your efforts these past few weeks. but nope, haven't seen debbie. surprise, surprise.
culturehandy
hee, it can't even come up with anything creative on it's own. Ooooooh, PLAGERISER!!!!

Oh firefighers!!!! I'd like to fuck a firefighter. I've had cop, military, navy, armed forces. Next up fire figher, perhaps a paramedic?

I need to get laid.
girltrouble
*giggles* now, culture, you horny minx, don't taunt steve.

his wittle bwain can't handle the idea of pwee mawital sex!

the idea of you and some big burly, beefy fire dood will make his head esplode.
girltrouble
uh... has anyone noticed? trolligator is dumb.
faerietails
*tee hee* yeah. hardcore.

but psh, don't taunt steve?? more like don't taunt ME!! a cop, military, navy, AND armed forces?!! damn, girl...pass me some leftovers!
girltrouble
y'all are funny! *sigh* bustie goodness



LoungeLady
Just came upstairs from baking cookies to find I was late to the party. Looovely.

~ LL Lysa
faerietails
you are too good to us, LLL. best LL ever!

*steals a cookie*
girltrouble
that's ok L3! you can still enjoy...







LoungeLady
Might as well update y'all on the situation since I don't feel like washing the dishes yet...

I actually got to sit down and chat with Debbie about Lounge stuff today. She's still thinking everything over and deciding how best to handle the situation, so we'll all have to be patient since she's also busy working on 2953252 other things for the magazine and Web site. We talked about mods and looked at IP addresses and such, so the whole issue is not stagnant. I will follow up next week when I return to the office.

ETA: I am sooooo not a baby person. Every time I see that seizure baby, I want to kick it with my e-foot. At least there's glitter.

~ LL Lysa
girltrouble
omg.... lysa.... you rock so hard... *giggles*

normally i hate seizure baby too. but , that's something else all together!


you are awesome. less than 2 hours of steve before she kicked his ass out! whooooo!

thank you so much for being our advocate at bust. i can't thank you enough.
LoungeLady
And that, my children, is the magic of re-branding! ohmy.gif

~ LL Lysa
doodlebug
Fuck, I missed all the fun.

Hey, Macarena!
culturehandy
L to the three, you fucking ROCK!!!

I can't express my lurve for you. The fact that you engage with us in threads and boot Steve-o out of here so promptly is incredible!

hee seizure baby.

Faerie, some of those men are a little...uhhhhhh...wacky! The cops are generally okay.
deschatsrouge
I feel the need to put in my $0.02 even though it might be too late. I think we need trolligators because they get in to the most sacred spots in the lounge. Like the CBC thread and the survivor's space. A troll some while back said in the Survivors space that all survivors who don't forgive their attackers go to hell, and that victims/survivors are attacked because god is punishing them. I think this should be brought to Debbi's attention.
beck
do i smell troll in the sizeism thread, or is the name just a coincidence? on my block list just in case...
kittenb
You smelled it right Beck! Your prize is a year's supply of Spam, the tastey not-quite-ham treat.

It seems to be selling a diet aid. I checked out the promoted address but didn't go to the site.
LoungeLady
Hmmmmm? Link or report post plz? *hunts around*

~ LL Lysa
LoungeLady
Neeeevermind. GT reported it for me... because I am blind. sleep.gif

~ LL Lysa
girltrouble
lol that's ok L3! hey i was meaning to ask you if there is any word from debbie....?

or has she once again forgotten we exist?
i get that she's busy, but really, this isn't a question that requires a lot of thought. it's a poll.

we proposed a FREAKING POLL.

the only reason she would put it off is because she hopes things die down, cos she finds even a poll threatening.
if she really believed that the lounge should be self modded, then why can't we vote on changing things up?

it's fucking ridiculous.

QUOTE
I think we need trolligators because they get in to the most sacred spots in the lounge. Like the CBC thread and the survivor's space. A troll some while back said in the Survivors space that all survivors who don't forgive their attackers go to hell, and that victims/survivors are attacked because god is punishing them. I think this should be brought to Debbi's attention.

and deschat, that is exactly it. EXACTLY. but the fucked up thing? it HAS been brought to her attention. but she hasn't budged.

L3 you know this isn't directed at you. i heart you. but this sort of stupid footdragging we've had for years. to make any improvement, we have to drag debbie kicking and screaming, and she never gives us a thought otherwise.
it's just ridiculous.
beck
QUOTE(LoungeLady @ Jul 8 2008, 03:04 PM) *
Hmmmmm? Link or report post plz? *hunts around*

~ LL Lysa


sorry i couldn't remember the drill! how do we report to you LL? (sorry for my computer stoopidness)
girltrouble
a few lines below the offendee's avitar is a button that says "report !!" click on that button. it will take you to a pm to LLL.
LoungeLady
QUOTE(girltrouble @ Jul 8 2008, 11:38 AM) *
a few lines below the offendee's avitar is a button that says "report !!" click on that button. it will take you to a pm to LLL.

What GT said.

QUOTE(girltrouble @ Jul 8 2008, 11:02 AM) *
lol that's ok L3! hey i was meaning to ask you if there is any word from debbie....?

Debbie has not forgotten you ladies. She's just reeeeaaally busy with Web site stuff at the mo. She said she will try to reply today, but again, busy, busy, busy. sad.gif I know it's frustrating to wait, but don't worry--the Lounge isn't being ignored!

~LL Lysa
beck
doh, thanks GT!
girltrouble
speaking of d'oh!

i just realised we took a poll earlier in the year, and the result was definative.

so L3, can you ask debbie (ugh) when we can have a trolligator yet? please? it's been how many weeks?

if you count the poll, we have been asking for some sort of trolligator since the end of 2007. is this really something that requires a 7 or 8 month deliberation?
LoungeLady
The likelihood of a trolligator happening is slim, but I'll ask Debbie again about responding.

~ LL Lysa
girltrouble
thanks lysa.

can you ask for a rationale, too?

this is a perennial issue, and she always does the same thing: stalls until the issue fades, i.e. the next attack. even if pushed she will rattle off some extremely lame, illogical excuse like, "i want the site to be self modded." well isn't deciding we need a trolligator, us moding ourselves?

meh, i don't know why i bother since there is no rationale.


she asks for reasons why we need a trolligator, but never bothers to explain why the reasons submitted don't measure up. she just uses it as a stalling tactic. in the end she always does the same thing-- nothing. not even giving us the respect of a reply. yet she claims to care about the lounge, yet it doesn't merit a thoughtful comment to tell us her high-and-mighty opinion.

i don't think it would bother me so much if there were some consistency. we are told the lounge matters to her, but there is scant little evidence of it. until L3 the lounge lady was an afterthought, given to an intern who usually had us on her to-do list somewhere after "change the kitty litter." who can guess how long we have been complaining? i've been here off and on for more than 8 years as the lounge suffered troll attack after troll attack. it's only recently she took our complaints seriously enough to move the lounge here. don't get me wrong, this is a huge leap forward, but i wish she'd do me the favor of shutting me up. really. being the lounge gadfly isn't that fun. i just think that those busties who pour their hearts out in some of the sensitive threads deserve a little protection. *shrugs* i honestly don't see why it's a big issue.

and i really don't understand why it's a bad thing for the lounge.

just give us a trolligator for 6 mos, and if it doesn't work, i'll run home my tail between my legs, and i can't say squat.


LoungeLady
Update: A PM has been sent to GT from Debbie to see what she thinks.

Please shoot a PM my way if you have any questions/concerns.

~ LL Lysa
girltrouble
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LoungeLady
If anyone wants an update on the situation or has any questions about what is going on, please feel free to send me a private message. I promise I'll get back to you.

~LLL
girltrouble
so i've replied to the pm. i really am an advocate of sunshine, and believe there is very little that should be done in private in these sorts of circumstances. that said, debbie requested that the pm be private, i understand her reasoning, and i will respect that. if you are curious as to what was asked, and my reply, shoot me a pm and i will be happy to send a copy to you. eventually, however i think the meat of it will probably be posted here.

-gt




ETA:huge, massive props to L3 for being a spectacular advocate for the lounge while never taking sides. you are a-mazing, and i am continually impressed by you.

girltrouble
is anyone else getting a whiff of something troll-a-riffic?
humanist77
yeah, at least she gave an obvious tip-off in the 'having problems' thread...
girltrouble
hmmmm subtlety, not her strong suit.... laugh.gif
pollystyrene
Uh-oh, it's hit the magic number....I'm going to pre-emptively ignore. At least PM's.
girltrouble
yeah, ze doesn't quite pass the smell test. i also think it funny that ze bumped the long lost mod vote thread.
LoungeLady
*raises an eyebrow*

~LLL
girltrouble
*giggles*

L3 you're the greatest!
auralpoison
Y'know, nobody has mentioned pie lately. That one broad is gonna be disappointed in us for not reverting to food topics in frustration.

I went to the Walmart. It was a three hour tour, a three hour tour. I shit you not. I bought B&J's because my market is so ghetto they don't have it. I got the Willie Nelson Peach Cobbler & meant to get the hippie kind with the peace signs, but instead accidentally bought Cake Batter. I was disappointed, but tried it anyway. WOW! Yellow dye #7 flavour & chocolate! Awesome! I love yellow dye flavour! And chocolate!
pollystyrene
There's a Willie Nelson Peach Cobbler flavor?!?! Why wasn't I notified?!?! No, seriously- I'm on their mailing list!

The London Escort girl is back. Currently wasting pixels in the pregnancy thread.
auralpoison
YES! And it is le merde! Big, fresh peach-y tasting goodness with cin/sug shortbread pieces.

Dude, what is up with the escort thing? I can't imagine that many of us are in so dire need of companionship that we'd pay for it.
LoungeLady
Back? Does she have a history of spamming the Lounge?

~LLL
girltrouble
there have been a couple of people with sigs that are links to a specific escort company-- it's not really against any rule (that i know of) it's just kind of obnoxious. i don't think that they ever really contribute much, just occasionally interject.
pollystyrene
I'm just speechless. blink.gif
humanist77
yay! I think I'm gonna barf! teehee!
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