nickclick
Sep 12 2007, 09:01 AM
.... doing the dishes. .... and letting my bf take out the garbage. (although he does all the cooking).
rainface
Sep 18 2007, 09:00 AM
I like to watch Rock of Love... I've decided that I love reality shows, not because I'm unaware that they demean, stereotype, and objectify women, but because human drama is fascinating for me. As is the idea that women would actually compete for the love of Bret Michaels.
beck
Oct 2 2007, 06:36 AM
I have already fessed up in the TV thread my inexplicable love of America's Next Top Model. Also, whiling away important work meetings by planning my summer/winter wardrobe (bad consumerist as well!) or planning dinner, and not really focusing on my career the way I should because I am preoccupied by the baby I'm growing...
Although I know homemaking or whatever the correct term is is also a feminist option, I kind of feel like I owe it to all those women that went before me and blazed a trail in the workplace ...(against all the odds and at considerable personal cost - in my area of work, women had to resign if they got married up till the 1970s) deserve a bit of follow up. Rubbish grammar sorry am sneaking a post in my lunchbreak.
crinoline
Oct 2 2007, 08:51 AM
If loving What Not to Wear is wrong, I don't want to be right.
Actually, among my many non-feminist transgressions, I think watching WNTW is the least of them. Because really, Stacy and Clinton just want every woman in the world to look and feel beautiful in their own skin. How is that non-feminist?
How do I Look just makes me angry, it's much less positive/supportive than WNTW.
beck- I know what you mean, about owing it to the women who fought the way, I worry about that too.
runningwestward
Oct 2 2007, 01:40 PM
I love What Not to Wear and Stacy and Clinton's bluntness. I love watching the women go from drab to fab. And you're right Crinoline, how is getting women to feel comfortable and confident in their own skin by showing them how to best dress themselves not feminist! The whole "don't dress for the position you have, dress for the position you want" may seem superficial but really if you dress confidently you tend to be more confident and demand more in the work place. They are anti-skanky dress and are showing women and girls that they don't have to dress like Paris and have tits hanging out and no panties to get attention. They are a breath of fresh air in a odd kind of bitchy way. And it is because of them I love pointy shoes.
I'm a closet Martha friggin' Stewart type. I can knit, I can bake, I can sew, I love to decorate the house, I love learning about domestic arts.I love baking for the men in my life: my fiance, teammates, my bike mechanic, people in my office, and the concierge. I love how excited they get about cookies. I love hearing that they love my cookies, tarts, brownies etc.
opheliathemuse
Oct 29 2007, 01:35 AM
I am a feminist but I confess: it turns me on like nothing else (in all senses) to have a man meet me as an equal. I get my own way so much it's kind of nice to have someone push back a little.
Modeling. Modeling nude.
Being paid to be beautiful.
Being unabashedly feminine. I also will wear dresses if given the choice. Don't even mention heels! mmmmmm
crazyoldcatlady
Nov 3 2007, 05:50 PM
blowing cash at the mall.
LustfullyPink
Nov 13 2007, 07:52 PM
The song 'Soulja Boy'.
I'm a hardset rap disliker but that song just gets stuck in my head!
tankgirl
Nov 14 2007, 04:51 PM
i really like cooking and doing house work. as well as knitting for my boyfriend and getting him beers. i know.. its so bad.
faerietails2
Nov 14 2007, 10:25 PM
about a month ago i decided that daniel bruhl (the guy from good-bye, lenin!) and i were meant for each other, okay? so today i caught myself chatting online to a friend, saying if i learned german i could seduce him and have his babies.
mind you, i'm a devout childfree by choicer and on the fence about marriage. soooo heinous.
MaybeSparrow
Nov 16 2007, 01:08 PM
I love to cook dinner for my boyfriend. Even if its just a quick sandwich for lunch or some soup. I get really get offended and hurt when he doesn't want my food.
LoveMyPugs
Nov 17 2007, 07:31 AM
Bought this book yesterday at Borders called
To Hell with All That: Loving and Loathing Our Inner Housewife and I must admit that it's everything I feel deep down inside about being a women today. My mouth literally dropped open in the store as I was sitting in the comfy leather chair plowing through this book. It's probably not considered "feminist" friendly but I still love it.
cbg24
Nov 27 2007, 11:43 PM
I can relate to the mixed feelings completely!!! It drives me nuts- I love the domestic and fashion arenas (crafts, knitting, cooking, gardening, fashion, makeup) even though I work full time and don't have extra time to do them. I dont even technically have to work or like it that much. But, I do because I feel like its my feminist duty...how messed up is that. I even wear not-feminine boring clothes that I hate bc I dont want to be labeled as "pretty" or with all the associations that go along with it. wtf.
But I do have to say, why is everyone (including me) sheepishly apologizing? I believe the most feminist thing we can do is live our lives unapologetically! Don't men? You don't see them admitting guiltily for liking "guy stuff"- they encourage it. Go for it if you like heels or WNTW. Why apologize? I need to take my own medicine. Any thoughts?
nickclick
Nov 28 2007, 09:45 AM
LMP, that book was written by *shudder*
Caitlyn Flanagan.
cbg, i don't think there's any apologizing and definitely not much sheepishness around here. just like you said, as feminists, we're aware that women don't HAFTA cook and sew, but we still can if we like it. just as feminists don't HAFTA wear boring clothes!
neurotic.nelly
Dec 2 2007, 01:18 AM
I cannot think of anything except sometimes talking in a baby-f*cked like voice to my partner and feeling rather cute about it.
freckleface7
Dec 8 2007, 05:07 PM
I want this.. even though I know it makes me a terrible terrible feminist .
( I also wanted the t-shirt from the Bust boobtique that said '
I call mine Thelma & Louise.. What a fine pair" but now they don't sell them.)
http://www.cafepress.com/taratainton.39897648
culturehandy
Dec 13 2007, 01:18 PM
I raelly really like vacuuming. I have hardwood at home, and I love to suck up all the dog fur.
Make up, face cream and body lotion. I love them, i love spending money on them (in my defense, the winter here seems to be doing more and more damage to my skin, I feel like I am covered in dry fish scales. My ears are dry, even the skin on one of my nipples is flaking).
konphusion26
Dec 13 2007, 01:35 PM
I like cooking and cleaning and taking care of my husband, even when he TELLS me NOT to??? Its kind of a turn on. LOL I have no idea why. HAHA I just like doing things for him. LMAO He calls me MOTHER HEN sometimes. HAHAHAH!!!!
crazyoldcatlady
Dec 18 2007, 06:18 PM
wife swap!!! jan 2nd, ya'll!!!
nickclick
Dec 19 2007, 08:28 AM
i haven't watched wife swap, but i do love super nanny. and not only because
my friend's brother does her makeup for the show. but also because i like seeing bratty children get in trouble.
cecilia
Dec 20 2007, 12:37 AM
Soap operas. I am hopelessly addicted to General Hospital and Days of Our Lives. I even watched Passions before it got moved to Soapnet, which I don't get. Even when I don't have time to actually watch, I keep up by reading recaps and spoilers.
crazyoldcatlady
Dec 20 2007, 11:38 AM
DAYS! I LOVE DAYS TOO!
Granted, i haven't watched it in a while, but you can always pick up where you left off... stefano, tony, victor, marlena and john... loves it!
cecilia
Dec 20 2007, 04:26 PM
Yay! I'm not the only one.
I was so glad when they brought back the evil Stefano DiMera. The Phoenix always rises! John is "dead" right now, but I'm sure it's only a temporary affliction.
Tholie
Dec 20 2007, 09:37 PM
I like sites such as Go Fug Yourself. Even though critiquing people on their appearance isn't the highest form of thinking we can do as human beings and most of the celebrities (or psuedo-celebrities) featured are women, there is something hilarious about seeing a grown woman walking about on the red carpet in a bubble dress, with uncombed hair, and thinking that she's the epitome of sexy. Though to be fair, the writers do also "fug" quite a few men too --and most of them seem to be either Johnny Depp or British. Dunno why.
BustiRubi
Jan 19 2008, 05:55 AM
QUOTE(runningwestward @ Oct 2 2007, 02:57 PM)

I love What Not to Wear and Stacy and Clinton's bluntness. I love watching the women go from drab to fab. And you're right Crinoline, how is getting women to feel comfortable and confident in their own skin by showing them how to best dress themselves not feminist! The whole "don't dress for the position you have, dress for the position you want" may seem superficial but really if you dress confidently you tend to be more confident and demand more in the work place. They are anti-skanky dress and are showing women and girls that they don't have to dress like Paris and have tits hanging out and no panties to get attention. They are a breath of fresh air in a odd kind of bitchy way. And it is because of them I love pointy shoes.
I'm a closet Martha friggin' Stewart type. I can knit, I can bake, I can sew, I love to decorate the house, I love learning about domestic arts.I love baking for the men in my life: my fiance, teammates, my bike mechanic, people in my office, and the concierge. I love how excited they get about cookies. I love hearing that they love my cookies, tarts, brownies etc.
Diddo
Diddo
Diddo
Diddo!!!!!
pointy shoes for short people-elongates the leg (i can see how that fits power)
domestic arts yeeeuh! hahha cookies are FUUN to make and i get a joy out of it!
beck
Jan 19 2008, 08:49 AM
i like Suicide Girls...although less so since i read an article about them in Bust which took all the fun out of it. I totally would've done it when I was a student though, i loved my job as an artist model back then.
LoveMyPugs
Jan 19 2008, 09:54 AM
i could spend my life standing in the kitchen barefoot and baking. i know, i know...just shoot me.
LilPinkElectricChair
Jan 19 2008, 04:23 PM
I hate it when people told me I had an anti-feminist childhood because my parents gave me Barbies. If anything it provided strong female roles in my childhood.
crinoline
Jan 19 2008, 06:12 PM
LMP- me too, except add a baby on my hip.
I don't think being a homemaker or wanting to be one is anti feminist.
missladyj
Jan 20 2008, 08:23 AM
I am religious about Go Fug yourself. It is just hilarious and really, really well written.
kittenb
Jan 20 2008, 09:01 AM
QUOTE(LilPinkElectricChair @ Jan 19 2008, 04:40 PM)

I hate it when people told me I had an anti-feminist childhood because my parents gave me Barbies.
I am with you. And if one more coworker jumps my case b/c I like American Girl Dolls I swear I am going to quit my job!
QUOTE(missladyj @ Jan 20 2008, 08:40 AM)

I am religious about Go Fug yourself. It is just hilarious and really, really well written.
I love that site. I just love it!
LoveMyPugs
Jan 20 2008, 09:06 AM
QUOTE(crinoline @ Jan 19 2008, 07:29 PM)

LMP- me too, except add a baby on my hip.
I don't think being a homemaker or wanting to be one is anti feminist.
Oh, yes!!! I forgot the baby. I want a million pugs at my feet while I'm holding the baby and barefoot in the kitchen.
nickclick
Jan 20 2008, 02:12 PM
mr.nick and i are dogsitting and housesitting for our our rich lawyer friends, and mr.nick is so excited to play with their HDTV and Xbox. me, on the other hand, i was excited to vacuum with their Dyson.
LoveMyPugs
Jan 20 2008, 10:16 PM
nickclick - oh i gotcha girl!!! in the last year mr. pug has bought a playstation 3, a new 60 inch plasma tv, a nintendo wii and guitar hero 3. they are very fun but on top of that we have a dyson animal. the vacuum is almost just as fun as the game systems. i also bought a dart board today to hang in the basement in order to have something to do while i'm waiting for the laundry. i also got jersey sheets on sale today at Target. A full king set for $20 in this very nice beige. Here is something that I should be commited for. I'm actually excited about cooking a huge chicken dinner for six tomorrow. seriously, i'm so domesticated. my mother is my complete opposite.
hoosierman78
Jan 21 2008, 07:52 AM
QUOTE(nickclick @ Jan 20 2008, 08:29 PM)

mr.nick and i are dogsitting and housesitting for our our rich lawyer friends, and mr.nick is so excited to play with their HDTV and Xbox. me, on the other hand, i was excited to vacuum with their Dyson.
This is way off topic, but just had to say something after reading about the Dyson. Look at the Bissel Lift Off. Works exactly like the Dyson, costs less than $200, and there is a canister vac that detaches from the main upright (wonderful for furniture, stairs & auto cleaning).
You can all have your thread back now, sorry for the derail.
knorl05
Jan 28 2008, 10:57 AM
i'm annoyed by yet another barbie
doll; but i love how well crafted they are, and the artists attention to detail makes them look so real. it's odd. current trends are blurring the lines between fantasy and reality. are women attempting to look like dolls, or are the dolls made to look like real women..? ..or.. both hmm.
neurotic.nelly
Feb 6 2008, 12:17 PM
QUOTE(knorl05 @ Jan 28 2008, 09:14 AM)

i'm annoyed by yet another barbie
doll; but i love how well crafted they are, and the artists attention to detail makes them look so real. it's odd. current trends are blurring the lines between fantasy and reality. are women attempting to look like dolls, or are the dolls made to look like real women..? ..or.. both hmm.
To me, those dolls look more like drag queens! And in that sense, they rock!
neurotic.nelly
Feb 6 2008, 12:18 PM
QUOTE(knorl05 @ Jan 28 2008, 09:14 AM)

i'm annoyed by yet another barbie
doll; but i love how well crafted they are, and the artists attention to detail makes them look so real. it's odd. current trends are blurring the lines between fantasy and reality. are women attempting to look like dolls, or are the dolls made to look like real women..? ..or.. both hmm.
To me, those dolls look more like drag queens! And in that sense, they rock! It be even more awesome if they came with big cocks between their legs.
opheliathemuse
Feb 14 2008, 01:21 AM
I am secretly torn by the desire to keep house and to become an established literary personality.
culturehandy
Feb 14 2008, 02:58 PM
The dolls are amazingly well crafted, looks like mattel is coming out with it's Barbie escort line though.
hellotampon
Feb 14 2008, 04:09 PM
I get annoyed when people accuse feminism of being heterocentric over every little thing. Do you know what I mean? Someone will bring up whatever, and there's always one person saying "GAWD THAT'S SO HETERONORMATIVE!" if it's not directly related to lesbian issues.
nickclick
Feb 16 2008, 05:49 PM
QUOTE(opheliathemuse @ Feb 14 2008, 02:38 AM)

I am secretly torn by the desire to keep house and to become an established literary personality.
do both.... keep house and write about it... betty friedan did it!
i_am_jan
Feb 16 2008, 08:09 PM
Great point nickclick! It gives me another idea as well:
(for Ophelia): if you find the homekeeping thing humerous, make like Roseanne Barr and write your witty observations?
nxdprincess05
Feb 18 2008, 11:46 PM
i am a feminst but i read cosmo.
well when i was 13 i thought it was the bible, as i have gotten older its so silly.i'm 20 now.
i read it to laugh mostly. i have a friend who is obsessed with it. i tell her every month whatwas wrong with all the articles.
oh and i am new here. my name is heidi i am 20 and i live in las vegas!
hellotampon
Feb 23 2008, 03:42 PM
I worked second shift at a gas station for a long time, which was boring, so I pretty much read all the magazines in the store at some point, and I quickly came to the conclusion that if you've read one issue of cosmo, you've read them all. Seriously. It's the same damn thing every time.
edie52
Feb 23 2008, 04:05 PM
I haven't cracked it open in a while, but just looking at the cover headlines I know it's the same every month: "Brand new sex moves that will BLOW HIS MIND OMIGOD!"
People have been having sex since the dawn of time, I doubt cosmo's coming up with something new every month.
kinkaju
Feb 23 2008, 09:39 PM
I have to confess one of my secret guilty pleasures in life is Cosmo, Allure, Glamour or whatever has the most colorful and splashy cover lol. I've been reading them since I was about 13 and still enjoy them. I love looking at the pictures of the makeup colors and clothes, and reading the hints and tips and of course the pics of the Do's and Don'ts are always fun eye candy haha. However, I always thought the "love horoscopes" are totally dumb and you guys are right, the monthly "latest, greatest, mind-blowing sex" articles are all the same crap, re-hashed month to month lol. I actually don't bother reading through those ones much anymore because I think it's a lot of candy-coated "pseudo-feminist" garbage sometimes. But I like the articles where they show poll results of real people's opinions about sex, fashion, relationships whatever.
neurotic.nelly
Feb 23 2008, 10:30 PM
QUOTE(edie52 @ Feb 23 2008, 02:22 PM)

I haven't cracked it open in a while, but just looking at the cover headlines I know it's the same every month: "Brand new sex moves that will BLOW HIS MIND OMIGOD!"
People have been having sex since the dawn of time, I doubt cosmo's coming up with something new every month.
hahahahhahhahhahaha! Thats the truth!
dusty
Feb 23 2008, 11:13 PM
I remember when I was a teenager, my Dad picked up my copy of Cosmo and said it was garbage, and I assumed he meant because it was a 'women's magazine'. But over the years I have come to think of it as really reinforcing sexist gender roles and especially sexual roles, and I think Playboy is less sexist.
I think they have run the "What it really feels like to be paid for it" article every year for the last 30 years.
nickclick
Feb 25 2008, 06:07 AM
QUOTE(dusty @ Feb 24 2008, 12:30 AM)

I think they have run the "What it really feels like to be paid for it" article every year for the last 30 years.
what's that? sounds terrible.
i do like flipping thru glamour or allure or whatever - they're all mostly the same - while i'm waiting at the salon especially, because i feel i have license to be extra superficial, since i'll soon drop $50 for a haircut or a mani/pedi or whatev.
i especially hate cosmo though because of its and helen gurley brown's rep for being 'feminist.' yeah, maybe the intent was to get woman to be more open about sex, but it's definition of sexy is so frickin' narrow and not about women's sexuality at all.
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