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greenbean
Hey Zoya! I agree with you, I don't see how looking feminine means you are a bad feminist. Personally, I HATE shopping and lipstick and high heels, but I dont see that as a feminist choice, just personal preference.

But I do see craving boys to do things for us (that we can do ourselves) as a conflict of feminist ideals, so I do feel a bit of guilt there. When I have a boyfriend I do prefer that he do all the driving (even if its my car) and I'm always asking my boy housemates to open jars and stuff like that.

I never ask them to kill spiders tho. I like spiders and I like to get them on a piece of paper and take them outside. Wasps on the other hand...EEEEEEEEEEKKKKK!!
freckleface7
I also like to flirt w/ old men.
I mean like old old Grandfatherly-type old men.

when I worked at a museum we had a ton of older male volunteers (it was a military history museum & some of these men were literally the real-actual-men that made the history too, so it was Huge Honor for me each day to get to work & know them ) and I was surrounded by them.
quite a few of them were widower's too come to think of it..
I'd flirt w/ them a little, they'd get all flushed and one even nicknamed me " Sparky" for my hair.
it was like having 12 Grandpa's all fawning over me, in a wonderful way.

so that's it (!): I have not a father-issue, but a GrandFather Complex!
freckleface7
I love burlesque and have for many many years wanted to learn it (sinse the salsa classes I took while living in germany).

is burleque a sin against the F-word (asking opinions here) ?

came across this http://www.vegaspopular.com/2007/04/05/vin...rinds-in-vegas/ and I just have to say... I do not consider the pussycat dolls true burlesque. or in Name Only, bc the name leads you to envision something entirely different than what you get.
they look and dance like tramped up, well , um Tramps ( & I mean like street indigents, not prostitues, though actually yah that too).
AKirstin
Yeah, I don't consider the pussycat dolls true burlesque, either. I just don't see any art or mystique in what they do. Also, they lack the curves, imo. I think burlesque should be preformed by women with quite a bit more meat on their bones.
ginger_kitty
I love burlesque, it's very sexy.

I don't mind letting men, do heavy lifting for me even if I know I can lift something myself.

And sometimes I flirt to get people to do things I don't want to do.
mornington
... old james bond films. They're screamingly misogynistic, but the lure of sean connery in his short shorts is just too much.

... that my grandmother advised me to "look stupid, and some man will come along and help you" when I talked about going to the garden center for tools and that. And when I replied "nana, that's hardly feminist", she replied "bollocks to feminism, it works. And it's easier than spending half the day searching for something."

... and that I will follow said advice.
opheliathemuse
I like it when Orion orders my dinner for me.

...how -does- one get into the domme business anyway?
Lesbajew
I loved Sin City. Don't wanna see Grindhouse, though.

I thought about seeing 300.

I enjoy Marilyn Monroe films.

I know someone who owns the most icky t-shirt(it says "Prevent Rape. Say yes"). I think it's disgusting, yet I am still friends with said person.

I enjoy primping myself and buying sexy clothing.

I hate how woman look in comics, yet I still read them.

girltrouble
ummm, o, do you really want the answer to that question? or were you being faceous? the most well known domme in my city has had a longstanding boyfriend (she's got two), who is a dom, he's a respected expert at japanese rope bondage... if anyone tells you dom/mes are always dominant, they are lying wink.gif
knorl05
lesbajew: i hardly think a tshirt is such a reflection of an individual's character that you should deny them your friendship.

i suppose my feminist transgression would be finding humor in anti-feminist statements when the intention is simply to be funny.
dolor
When my mother was in her death bed, she called me to her side to make her "last confession." And what she confessed to was being "too nice." " a goody-goody." There was an element of vanity in being a goody-goody that she was ashamed of.

It was the advent of feminism, for her, in the late 60's and early 70's that made this confession possible, and needed. While growing up in the 30's, she was puzzled by the female role, the limited choices available to her. And bothered by the role that her mother has assumed. But these apprehensions did not really come to the fore until (US) feminism loomed up. Then feminism made her take stock of her life, her choices, her roles. It was a needed revolution. Also it changed her, for the better. It was not merely a "revolution in the head." She re-defined her role as wife and mother. Not completely, radically, but she took more command of her life, and became a stronger person.

In particular, she began to take her weaving very seriously. She applied herself... and created colorful beauty.

I'm passing on her confession, from another generation.

So this is not a confession, despite feminism, this is a confession because of feminism. [OK in this thread?]
(Shades of Proust!)
Mary_LV426
I like cooking.

Is it anti-femist to say guys are better chefs? ^^;
sassafrass
...but I watch "The Bachelor" (the shame!)
Moonpieluv
well... I love Period love stories.... freaking jane austen and cold mountain and the notebook. ah geez. how indulgent.... especially with "oh that's so sweet" or more morosely "I'll never have a love like that" crap over a bottle of wine.
Might as well sing "All by myself" drunk as a skunk like Bridget Jones.

Whaa, Whaa. boo-hoo.

That same guy I was pining for whilst watching said films has ultimately pooped on a few of my feminist principles, and unfortunately I have allowed him such power. Oh... the SHAME.

I'm A'workin on that.
QUOTE(sassafrass @ May 20 2007, 05:53 PM) *
...but I watch "The Bachelor" (the shame!)

crazyoldcatlady
anti transgression: i had a problem with my car hood, and was gonna get one of my male cowokers to help me out, then thought to myself, "how backward of me, what female do i know who can help?" so i sought out my gadget girl coworker to help me instead. :-D
capilot
QUOTE(mornington @ Apr 21 2007, 05:27 PM) *
... old james bond films. They're screamingly misogynistic, but the lure of sean connery in his short shorts is just too much.


You should rent Zardoz
Moonpieluv
SO I actually went to my first Nascar race and was waiting for some people near the bathrooms and noticed.....
The sign for men read "MEN"
for women.... read "LADIES".

I know we can sometimes find ourselves using "ladies" when asking where the toilet is, but... I just thought it odd that they would take the time to use it when one less letter might have saved some money. Obviously a very conscious choice.

But I have to say... I did like hearing them fast cars go by and the fact that you can bring your own cooler filled with friggin bud light and eat a foot long corn dog. Awesome.
Brazenkittten
And I thought feminism was about choice and equality.
I don't find it unfeminist to dance in a specific way or to depend on other people every so often, I think it is good to examine and understand the reasons behind doing so, but not to feel guilty about all of them.
I just get sad when friends of mine come up to me and say "wow, you are the only feminist I know that wears heels" and other such things. As though feminists have to conform to one specific image and type of thought.
In my opinion, things that fall under the category of unfeminist are things that are outright against women and their having rights...Such as anti-woman music, individuals that don't believe women are equal to men, etc.

End of rant.
mlleemily
Maybe the fact that I can conceive of a "good way" to be tossed around is a transgression unto itself????

I like that too ohmy.gif) Never thought of it as un-feminist tho... in fact a lot of the stuff on this thread, I'm trying to work out why it would be thought to be incompatible with women being granted political, social equality.
chachaheels
My sentiments exactly, mlleemily. I haven't a tiny speck of guilt, feminist or otherwise, about using my resources (whatever they may be) to accomplish something.

No, I can't change a tire and I don't want to check my oil at the gas station. I pay about $100 a year (ridiculously cheap!) and call CAA when I need a tire changed. It takes them exactly 5 minutes to get me back on the road. I don't waste time chastising my lack of skill there, I celebrate the fact that I know enough to get someone else to do what they can do well, so I can go on doing what I do well. As for changing my oil and pumping my own gas--I go to a full serve station. That way, I ensure more people are employed and again, they can do what they do best, I don't have to waste time trying to figure out how to cope when I've got greater priorities in my life. And I would so try to get someone's help if they're knowledgeable and I'm not in a place like a hardware store--those stores are massive, staff is very limited, and I want to get in and get out as fast as I can. If I appeal to someone else's sense of pride in their knowledge, and it makes them feel good enough to want to help me out, who loses there? Besides, sometimes staff in those stores includes women too.

If I wear heels, low cut tops, red lipstick, if I flirt with the opposite sex or delight in being the submissive in a sexual relationship, it's BECAUSE of feminism, not in spite of it. Hell, misogyny has reviled the female form for so long that any act of self-adornment--whether you choose to wear heels to feel taller, or to make your legs and ass curvier--is a political act against misogyny on its own merits. Actually having sexual needs and expressing them to your own fulfillment--how is that not the point of feminism? Did feminism even have another point?

Also: I will never forget that French feminists have made fun of North American feminists' shoes in the past, and rightly so.

As for saying "Guys are better chefs" being unfeminist--I wouldn't say it's unfeminist.

No, first I'd say it's just a bias, one you can't hope to prove as justified. It is, however, the kind of generalization that's kept the great cooking women do in the category of unpaid work, and ensuring the cooking that men do in businesses like restaurants and institutions would always be perceived as "worthy of pay". It's a kind of bias that doesn't really make you look good, you know what I mean?

Then, I'd say it's a fine example of misogyny. But hey--women internalize that all the time, if they're not conscious about the insidious nature of misogyny, right? I learned that from feminism.
nickclick
i think as feminists we *know* we can do things for ourselves or dress however we like, but not every woman knows this or believes this about herself. in other words, her first thought is to get someone else to change her tire, or that she has to wear high heels and look sexy to have any worth. they aren't the conscious decisions that we, as feminists, make.

i dunno if that's contributing to this or not.
opheliathemuse
Whoops! I haven't returned to this thread because I forgot that I posted here. Yes, I was actually curious, since I have a very dominant streak in me. It's just not expressed in my relationship with Orion. I also am interested in a job where I can set my own hours due to my illness...
Is that weird?
anna k
I like knowing that my dad loves me and would want to kill anyone who tried to rape or hurt me. I read a story about Paul Sorvino's daughter calling him up because her ex-boyfriend was pounding on the door to let him in, and he came right over with a gun. My dad would probably do the same for me. I like that kind of manly protection.
laurenann
I'm a feminist, but I plan on going to the bank tomorrow and pulling the pretty lady card on one of the guys who works there to get out of the overdraft fees I wracked up this week. It's supposed to be over 90 degrees tomorrow and I'll probably be wearing a tank top and skirt, so that can't hurt, either.
mlleemily
My dad would probably do the same for me. I like that kind of manly protection.

Mine too! It's because my alpha-male woman-worshipping Daddy's got my back that I'm a mouthy feminist. He will quite literally pound anyone who shits near his nest or tries to mess with his "little girls" (aged thirty and twenty-seven!), he's a blue-collar, ballsy dude who cooked every dinner I ever ate while I lived at home (he thinks men who don't cook for their families are 'fags'- NOT PC at all, but anyone who calls a gay person a fag HE calls a 'fag' too, so whatevs, it makes sense in his head). He stayed home to look after me as a toddler while my Mum went to work and tells me not to take any shit ever from anybody for any reason, and confronts shit-talking coworkers and relatives and calls them on their misogyny. Ah, my Daddy!!! He's not into us girls wearing immodest clothing, cos he says that attracts the wrong kind of guy and scares off the good ones, and guess what, he was right, soon as I stopped puttin on the dawg to pull among the fuckwits at clubs I met my sweet, feminist, dinner-cooking honeybunch! Again, not 'feminist' or 'sex-positive' (I've come to find that a weird term) but there's nobody like your Paw to cut through the Cosmo-bullshit and tell ya you don't have to be anybody but your nerdy, bookish, long skirt-preferring self to attract a mate.

This made me laugh!
French feminists have made fun of North American feminists' shoes in the past, and rightly so.

Who was it, do you know?
chachaheels
mlleemily, I don't think it was one, alone: I think it was more like a cultural reaction, many women from France puzzling what the fuck women in the US saw in berkenstocks and running shoes that were closer in appearance to orthotic support boots. Though I have a belief (maybe not correct) that I read this line in Luce Irigaray's writing first....

I...uh....don't know what to say about the "manly protection" thing. Mlleemily and Mira Sorvino--maybe your relationship with your dad is the kind where protection is really all that's behind that reaction; in fact, I think this is what a family must do when one of it's members is threatened. I have a friend whose daughter ran off to England and eloped with a man there--and at one point in their relationship they ran into difficulties and her husband started to become violent. Well, the girl called her mum in Canada, and mum called the relatives in England, and just like that, people arrived--they scooped up the girl, gathered up her things, and took her off to live elsewhere. On the way out the door, the family members told the man they would always be around to support and intervene to help her, no matter what--so he would never be able to victimize her again, and he would never be able to isolate her again either. And that was that: the girl had a place to stay, they helped her get divorce proceedings underway, and Mr. Violence was history.

That's not really something we should feel "guilty" about, the "manly protection"--that's a father's JOB. Or, rather, that's a FAMILY's job. Fathers, of course, should be fiercely protective and supportive of all their children--just as mothers are.

Laurenann: banks, as far as I'm concerned, are like a scary primal abyss--if you do not fight for your rights there, you will be working to make them rich.

I only bank in places where I have "an in"--someone on staff who will help me cut through the red tape and bullshit "policy" that banks throw at you. When I'm in a branch where I don't know anyone, I use every tactic imaginable: being very polite, very sweet, that works--playing on someone's weakness for flattery...whatever. I use it. Wish I could still use my looks, cause I would.

It's far better than the "get angry" route, where you end up making the argument way over the branch personnel's heads and you get your way because your logic is infallible, but people end up in tears.

In a bank, the wealthy clients are allowed free access to their money, they often get free services that would never be provided to other patrons (such as calling the wealthy client if one of their cheques is about to bounce, and arranging for a transfer of funds so that any overdraft doesn't cost them interest...super cheap loan rates, dropping all automatic service charges, even for transactions through credit cards and ATMs...it goes on and on). I say use what you can--it's your money, you worked really hard for it. Wish we could make banks either scrap the service charges all together or stop applying them arbitrarily, but that won't happen anytime soon.
mlleemily
I'm wondering, are these 'confessions' of 'transgressions' sort of reflections of what ppl who wanna undermine our feminism sometimes level at us? I'm thinking of ppl, who more often than not aren't even feminists themselves, saying things like "Well THAT'S not very feminist of you!" when they see you in your heels. Sad but true, these ppl still exist, they think feminism means anti-fashion and anti-men, *yawn*. Such a simple message, feminism means political, social and economic equality, but still ppl don't get it.

chachaheels
Yeah, it's weird. People have definitely been sold a bill of goods about what feminism is, and illiteracy is so prevalent now that no one reads. You've got a threatened media that's been trying really hard to put feminism down as a bunch of stupid etiquette rules--who opens the door for whom, and who pays for dinner, and women are only impressive if they can do the stuff men value, like be corporate execs or change a tire. They've also spent a lot of time hoodwinking tons of women into thinking feminists are supposed to do it all now--round the clock work, family, babies, cooking and cleaning, and work full time and bring in half the income--you name it. "Bringin' home the bacon and fryin it up in the pan"...all while the old boy kicks off his shoes after his nine to five and snaps his fingers when he wants another beer, and gets grumpy if wifey doesn't keep the children quiet after his hard day at work. A lot of us have been duped, and when we're no longer duped and we "get" it, all kinds of follow up aspersions on our feminism get lobbed on us by the mostly ignorant.

People believe this shit because they don't know that this definition of feminism is based on someone's need to cast derision on it. Most people don't know feminism is a philosophy--with a huge amount of human effort and creative thought. It's really the most comprehensive philosophical endeavor ever undertaken and compiled in the history of humanity--but no one thinks of it that way. Shame, because no other intellectual contribution comes close to its breadth and scope, and yet it's so easily devalued as a human contribution: people still think we're traitors to the gender if we buy a mascara to make ourselves feel good about our looks or ask for help because we can't do every damned thing.

dolor
I would add... that feminism is not simple, but rather fundamentally complicated.

Because, for one, feminism involves (sometimes) affirming the traditional female roles and attritutes (enjoying one's femininity, respecting the task of being a mother, etc) , roles and attributes which are often denigrated, misunderstood, under-appreciated by (some) men, "the system" and sometimes other women...

-- And then also claiming the right to step outside of these traditional roles and attributes, and assume a different kind of stance in the world.

These two different moves may seem to be at cross-purposes with each other, yet they are both basic to feminism.

Or so I see it....
Porn Star
I have a friend that she considers her self a feminist. In a short way she is (she thinks that the women has the last word, that she decides everything, thinks like this). But when she is in love she makes compromises. So....I believe that she is a feminist but a reasonably one. wink.gif
anna k
I like watching E! countdown shows of celebrities with great bodies to admire them and see what I could emulate to look that good.
kittenb
I liked that the bus driver checked out my legs when I got on the bus today in my gym shorts.
Porn Star
I love to watch peoples eyes(especially the blue ones). I think that the eyes are the most important thing at a person because you can learn so much things about a person just looking in her eyes.
Moon
QUOTE(Porn Star @ Jun 13 2007, 07:22 AM) *
I love to watch peoples eyes(especially the blue ones). I think that the eyes are the most important thing at a person because you can learn so much things about a person just looking in her eyes.



Eyes are the window to the soul. smile.gif
amazonprincess
I can't believe I'm even going to admit this but... I've been watching "Age of Love" where the 20 something women are competing with the 40 something women for this Australian tennis player. I think what draws me to it is a morbid sociological fascination with how awful women can be to each other. I find myself wondering what makes a woman choose to go on a show like that.
kiss_the_fiddler
I'm married and quite unavailable, but I like to flirt. I like it when, once in awhile, one of the guys I work with on the fire department winks at me. It makes me blush and I feel silly.
Lilith
The one and only dogma of feminism that I subscribe to is basically the power to do what I want. So if I do something that is perhaps considered "anti-feminist" that is, in and of itself, me being a feminist. Because I don't do things because of anyone or what anyone says is "the thing to do".or not. For example, say... being a housewife... (and yes I realize the term is "home maker" or whatever)... you might say it's not "feminist" to be a housewife. I think it's not feminist for you to be a housewife because society has told you that's what women should do. But if you just really love your kids and home and want to stay home... and yo'ure doing it because it's what you want to do, not because it's what "women should do", then being a housewife IS feminist.

Did that make any sense?

Any, I guess my thing that I do the most that would maybe be considered against the dogma of feminism, is that I have a tendency to be a little... slutty. wink.gif Of course, I view that as an example of my autonomy - a facet of my feminism.
LoveMyPugs
QUOTE(Lilith @ Jul 24 2007, 09:09 PM) *
The one and only dogma of feminism that I subscribe to is basically the power to do what I want. So if I do something that is perhaps considered "anti-feminist" that is, in and of itself, me being a feminist. Because I don't do things because of anyone or what anyone says is "the thing to do".or not. For example, say... being a housewife... (and yes I realize the term is "home maker" or whatever)... you might say it's not "feminist" to be a housewife. I think it's not feminist for you to be a housewife because society has told you that's what women should do. But if you just really love your kids and home and want to stay home... and yo'ure doing it because it's what you want to do, not because it's what "women should do", then being a housewife IS feminist.

Did that make any sense?


AMEN! I couldn't agree more!

So therefore, if I'm submissive to my fiance because I want to be and not because society says I should be then I'm not considered "anti-feminist" right?
doodlebug
Not posting this to be argumentative, but just as a point of info....

I worked in the feminist movement for over 11 years, until about six months ago. I know there are individual people - women and men - naysaying the "feminism" of homemaking (usually because they are trying to prop up their own agendas). But in my time in the movement, I never met any active feminists who claimed that being a housewife or a homemaker wasn't feminist.

In fact, feminist economists like Marilyn Waring have spent lifetimes advocating for women's unpaid labour in the home and community to be recognized as an important and essential contribution to society. Women do two-thirds of the world's paid and unpaid work. Since economies benefit (very well - the monetary figure worldwide is in the trillions) from the unpaid labour of women, the feminist movement has long lobbied (and continues to lobby) to have women's unpaid labour in the home and community recognized in the GDP of every nation's economic accounting systems. In 1996, for example, I worked locally on a nationally-organized feminist campaign to encourage women fill out the "work" section of the Canadian census with their unpaid labour in the home. This kind of work with the census has been happening all over the world.

Feminists also spend a huge amount of our time and energy working towards building the social infrastructure that would recognize and better support women in their role as homemakers. In Canada, a one of the direct successes of feminist work has been the recent (within the last 10 years) changes to the Canada Pension Plan: women in Canada now receive pension contribution credits for their years spent out of the paid workforce engaged in childrearing, and can also apply for "credit splitting" to have access to a share of their husbands' and/or ex-husbands' pensions for the time they spent as unpaid supporting homemakers. Both of these legislative changes were made retroactive to include all women, and not just those engaged in homemaking since the changes. My mom and stepmom, both retired, received these CPP credits, for example.

I can't write about what's happening in other countries, as I don't know off-hand, but there are changes being made in many other countries as well. The movement to recognize women's unpaid labour in the home is absolutely taking place on a global scale, and it's because of feminism, not in spite of it.
mouse
lilith--by your 9 posts, it looks like you're new. spend some time in the "let's talk about sex" section of this forum and you will soon learn that we all think being "slutty" (as long, of course, as you're doing it because you want to) is actually very, very, very feminist laugh.gif

seriously, though, what could be more radical than embracing the sex drive the patriarchy has denied existed for centuries? tongue.gif

really, though, this whole debate has to do with semantics...one of the main reasons most successful celebrity women don't consider themselves feminists. when in fact, they are! HA JOKE'S ON THEM
nickclick
QUOTE(LoveMyPugs @ Jul 24 2007, 11:39 PM) *
AMEN! I couldn't agree more!

So therefore, if I'm submissive to my fiance because I want to be and not because society says I should be then I'm not considered "anti-feminist" right?

i agree that it's conscious decisions that make them feminist. in other words, conscious that women before us didn't have such autonomy as we do today, and the decision is what's best for you, not what's prescribed or forced.

that being said, and as we all know, we're still not a fully feminist society, and our actions are still statements. yes, the personal is STILL political. and we should learn by history. there's plenty good reasons why women were fighting not so many years ago to go to work. and as doodlebug laid out, many reasons why women are working so hard today to get the respect for all our work.

mouse, yes! the shining example is the evil ann coulter, bashing feminists and liberals left and right. uh, she is successful (unfortunately) in a way women weren't able to be before feminism! fucking idiot.

ut oh, is it un-feminist of me to bash another woman????
chachaheels
Nickclick, not if that "other woman" is Anne Coulter. It's your feminist duty.

By the way, feminists have been writing for decades throughout the last century and more that there are a token number of women who are allowed into the "inner sanctum" of male success, which comes with power and money. That token number can ONLY get in there if they reinforce patriarchal structures. It's no accident that Anne Coulter is highly paid and highly visible--as long as you're putting all the other gals in their place, all the boys pay you well. To be honest, it really isn't because of feminism that Coulter's been successful: it's because of patriarchy. There are other token gals, such as Condoleeza Rice, who gets double rewards for ensuring no improvements for women or people of colour ever take place while she's part of the administration; and good old Maggie Thatcher, who made sure that all the big boys got rich while poverty for women and children flourished under her administration in England. Feminism's still working on that basic tenet of partriarchal structure, which is holding fast.

It's the same principle that worked in Nazi Germany, where their policy to exterminate Jewish people were concerned: Nazis would look through the group of Jews they were abusing and try to find someone in that group the others seemed to hold in some esteem, or trust: and then they'd make that trusted Jewish person a sunderkommando--they'd tell that one Jewish person that they'd spare his life and the life of his family members if he would just help convince the other Jews to submit, or if they'd actively report on other Jews in the community so that the Nazis could find them and have them killed.

What Anne Coulter doesn't know is that eventually, the Nazis simply stopped keeping their promises to the sunderkommandos: they would use the information they provided to get other Jews and eventually they'd kill the sunderkommando's family and then the sunderkommando, too.

I'm waiting for the day when the nice wealthy group of boys Anne for which she shills decides they no longer need her, and move in to take her stuff too.
Jaymi
I love What Not To Wear. I Tivo it and have WNTW marathons with other feminist friends so that I don't feel too guilty. wink.gif

PS, I agree that this thread is more a tongue-in-cheek version of admitting those things we enjoy that seem outwardly to be anti-feminist. So while I agree that feminism is complicated, multi-faceted and needs to be critically analyzed, it's also fun to admit that you enjoyed when some guy thought your legs were hot, or that you watch 20-sth and 40-sth women compete on TV. smile.gif
chachaheels
I love What Not To Wear too. And all that fashion advice/critique stuff.

Here's my list of the supposedly ironic:

I love when men tell me I'm attractive, and act like it.

I love when mechanical/electronic things break down, and men offer to fix them for me, and then they actually do fix them! Right then and there! No waiting! That kind of satisfaction and joy should be bottled like a narcotic drug.

I love wearing feminine shoes. Shoes with high heels, boots that are a shade suggestive, sandals that are basically a sole and a couple of thin straps, designed purely to show off a nice pedicure.

There's more of that old fashioned stuff that I love too, like going through the door first, or letting myself be invited out to dinner and not feeling like I should split the bill or pay for the meal. But I've decided everyone loves that too, so it's not a big deal.



deschatsrouge
I really like shaving my legs and arm pits. After I shave my legs I like to get into bed and rub my legs together and on the cool sheets and feel the smoothness. *maybe this should go in the I do weird stuff board.* I also looooove WNTW though I havn't seen it in forever because we don't have cable. I love it when Stacy yells shut up.
Garlic
I like cooking for people (although with the rise of famous male chefs suggesting that cooking can only be done properly if it's a man doing it, how anti-feminist is reclaiming the kitchen really?)

I fuss over people's kids. Even though I don't want any of my own.

I prefer skirts and dresses to jeans.
nickclick
i am so goofy over babies!
Garlic
QUOTE(nickclick @ Sep 7 2007, 08:08 AM) *
i am so goofy over babies!


Yup, they make your heart melt, like a human chocolate bar. Even if you know they're secretly devious and evil little beasts.

Thankfully, I'm related to some Catholics so there will always be someone else's kid to be soppy over tongue.gif. Pregnancy and the chore of finding a babysitter have never appealed to me as parts of my future....
swedishchick
... being "the hot chick" or at least "the good-looking chick".

All my female friends are freakin' gorgeous but for once I'm finding myself among a bunch of guys who seem to think I'm hawt.

Good for the self-esteem, this is.
ginger_kitty
I am guilty of watching What not to Wear, too. I love it, and I can't help it. I'm actually addicted to a couple make over shows. How Do I Look, is another one, though that one makes me mad.
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