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bustygirl
I know there's a She's Crafty thread, so I apologize if this is one too many craft related threads, but doing it for yourself and doing it as a business are very different. Anyone else here sell their handcrafted goods? I make clothing and jewelry, and have for 8 years now.

If your interested is piqued, you can see what I do at http://www.beqiclothing.com, and http://beqi.etsy.com.

I'd like to see your stuff, too. (Ooh, dirty!) So how many Etsy girls are there? How many people with goods in Depart-ment or Renegade? Any horror stories to tell? Anyone been interviewed lately? Tell me tell me tell me, I'm nosey. smile.gif
girltrouble
busty, i know you're oldschool, and you have a good sense of what threads will probably work, but i'd feel like a hypocrite if i chide some newbee for starting a thread without getting a vote from the community forum if i didn't chide you too.

i'm not trying to be a snot or some self appointed mod, but fair is fair. do go to the community first next time please.

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that said i'm preping to sell some one of a kind metal boxes on etsy and i wanted your opinion on etsy and other similar sites.

i'll post some pix of them lately but i find old metal boxes thrifting, sandblast patterns on them then hand paint them.
vixen_within
I do plan on selling when my confidence and skills are good and ready. I make, . I don't participate in Etsy or the online crafting community, maybe my loss?

Busty, at what point did you decide to go full-time? Have you ever been featured in Bust? (just curious)
Do you sell more from Etsy or directly from your site?


lola
bustygirl
I have been in Bust, on the Notorious *BOB* no less. I've been full time now for the last 5 years, and I defiitely sell more from my own website than from Etsy.

I'd love to see pics of your work.
vixen_within
It would be pretty cool methinks to see a Bust issue on professional craftiness and its purveyors (if it hasn't already been done)

Yes- I'd be happy to show you pics, as soon as I get my ass together. I'm building a website (will take some time) and should start posting them there.

I too would love to know who else around here sells what her hands make. I think I'm impressed by the independence, self-reliance and commitment involved in a creative DIY business & making it profitable. Lots of hits on this thread, but no comments. Come on, girls!
pepper
i dunno, i post in she's crafty and read the shameless self promo thread so this one seems like overkill to me. i don't have much to add since i have never had any luck selling my stuff for nearly what it's worth so i just make it for me or as gifts or trades. sorry!
vixen_within
Well, the self-promo thread seems to be more of an (underutilized!) announcement thread, and crafty is a hobbying thread, and as Busty was saying business crafting seems to encompass a lot of different considerations. Like, small business/marketplace considerations, whether to incoporate yourself or not, balancing personal + family time with craft work especially @ home- and even the audacity of doing "female work" and expecting to be paid, evaluating worth & accepting payment..

QUOTE(pepper @ Aug 21 2008, 01:28 PM) *
...i don't have much to add since i have never had any luck selling my stuff for nearly what it's worth so i just make it for me or as gifts or trades. sorry!


This is an issue I'm running into...even beyone time/money am I ready to part with my babies? What would make it worth it to me? Bartering? Selling? Both? Still considering this.
vixen_within
I'll add that at this point one reason that I'd like to sell, is to be able to afford to create more. This will affect what my business model looks like and acceptable forms of payment.
hellotampon
QUOTE(girltrouble @ Aug 18 2008, 07:42 PM) *
busty, i know you're oldschool, and you have a good sense of what threads will probably work, but i'd feel like a hypocrite if i chide some newbee for starting a thread without getting a vote from the community forum if i didn't chide you too.

i'm not trying to be a snot or some self appointed mod, but fair is fair. do go to the community first next time please.

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that said i'm preping to sell some one of a kind metal boxes on etsy and i wanted your opinion on etsy and other similar sites.

i'll post some pix of them lately but i find old metal boxes thrifting, sandblast patterns on them then hand paint them.

For real. I have seen her bitch at people for making threads without asking.
deschatsrouge
I'm making an attempt to buy only handmade this Christmas. I would also like to support crafty Busties. Does any one have an etsy store?
Queen Bull
QUOTE(deschatsrouge @ Sep 1 2008, 01:13 AM) *
I'm making an attempt to buy only handmade this Christmas. I would also like to support crafty Busties. Does any one have an etsy store?



delurks - my friend does. shes just started making resin jewelry. its kinda limited, but she has some really cute stuff, imho, heres the link.


starpiste
I have an etsy store (maked.etsy.com) but I'm part of a trio of women who makes that stuff. We'll be adding more rings later this week.

Also, last year etsy started a "buy handmade" campaign that was not linked by name to etsy. It was cool and there was basically a online petition you signed, and then there was images to link to it from your blog or website.

I did 50% handmade last year. I'd like to do 100% this year. But I prefer to do the handmaking really. It's problematic with the business though. We do four to five fairs over the winter season so most of my craft energy goes though. I'll definitely have to buy more handmade this year to do 100%.

(Edited to add: QB, that stuff is really nice. I added her to my favs!)
Queen Bull
OH star! i loove that your store. i will def be making some yuletide purchases. smile.gif
and ty, im sure shell be pleased.
vixen_within
There's something almost edible about your friend's jewelry queenbull.
I like this ring a lot, starpiste http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=12108925
The romance novel notebooks are priceless too.
deschatsrouge
QUOTE(Queen Bull @ Sep 1 2008, 05:21 AM) *
delurks - my friend does. shes just started making resin jewelry. its kinda limited, but she has some really cute stuff, imho, heres the link.



QUOTE(starpiste @ Sep 1 2008, 05:26 AM) *
I have an etsy store (maked.etsy.com) but I'm part of a trio of women who makes that stuff. We'll be adding more rings later this week.


I bookmarked both. Thanks.
Queen Bull
youre welcome.

and ty vixen, ill pass on the sentiment. wink.gif
starpiste
so if we're going to make this thread about crafty biz, where does your business sit? Is it your sole source of income? a profiting hobby? going from one to another?

For us, it's about making a hobby fund itself. I know long term I have a crafty biz idea, but it's totally different than what I'm doing now, and I don't know if I'll actually do it.

One opportunity that's come to us is the chance to consign to a B&M shop. The concern for me is that it's not in our town. We're not sure how we'd do shipping, deal with unsold items, and even how we'd price our items (ie. should they match our online prices?) Anyone have experience with this?
bustygirl
Consignment is iffy for me. I prefer to do wholesale, so I don't have to worry about followup. I would say as far as pricing goes, find out what the consignment fee is (in smaller cities it can be as low as 30%, but in larger ones it's usually 50/50) and add it to your bottom line price (this is the amount you absolutely must get in order to make your ends meet). For instance, if you have to get $5 off an item to make back your supply fees and pay yourself for your time, you would have to sell an item for $10 to make your money back on a 50/50 deal.

When I've done consignment was usually mine to eat on the way down, and theirs on the way back, but every store is different. Ask for a consignment contract, and read it carefully before you send anything. Also, check out the store as much as you can online first.

As for my biz, it's my only job, and it's a big one. I started out full time with a second job, and I changed to having no other source of income three years ago. I have a regular website, http://www.beqiclothing.com, and a satellite etsy store, http://beqi.etsy.com. I also sell at local and regional indie DIY-type craft fairs.

I work all the time, but I love my job.
vixen_within
Anyone get this in the mail? http://www.bust.com/Info/BUST-Product-Show...Order-Form.html
Does anyone visit or participate in the Craftacular? I'm never in NYC when it happens.

I've heard a lot of people mention them, but I still have to ask, what is a B&M shop?
starpiste
B&M is for bricks and mortar. A real life store, as opposed to an online one.

oh, and isn't that add space in the back of bust?
vixen_within
Oh okay makes sense.
Hm I'm not sure where in the magazine the showcase is featured. I asked about both it and the craftacular because reminders for both of them came in the same newsletter. I know someone who raves about it, but I've never been.
Divala
Hi, peeps!

I've got a crafty business, too, but it's pretty small and it's not my primary income. I sell at craft fairs during the holidays and whenever I can get into a cheap one, plus word of mouth. I make jewelry, decoupaged cigar box handbags and picture frames, polymer coated wine/martini glasses, and truffles for the holidays. The truffles make me the most money, which is weird because I only make them seasonally and somewhat illegally (I'm not licensed for food products).

I'm thinking of putting some stuff on Etsy. I've been researching it for awhile, and I was wondering how people actually do with selling this way, since there's such a huge amount of stuff to be had, and it'd be really easy for your items to get lost, or at least that's how it looks to me.

For those on Etsy, do you mainly get sales from people you direct there specifically for your stuff, or just random buyers?
starpiste
We sell on etsy. It's not lucrative and we average about a sale a week after 3 months of really working at it. Your stuff gets lost but if you learn to tag your items properly, promote yourself well, and renew/add items at least every few days, you can overcome that. It helps if your product is unique, but also uses words people will search for.

Surprisingly, all but our first two sales were from people randomly searching etsy and finding us. We also get a lot of custom requests.

It is a lot of work, but it's more like a few minutes of work every day, rather than an hour every few weeks.
vixen_within
I think that selling on places like etsy and ebay is really effective when you can direct customers (and peepers) to your website and offer specials or discounts related to that.

When you ship stuff out, including a coupon, catalogue or something to keep their attention, doesn't reach everyone, but reaches some. Once people have pointed and clicked and bought we tend to forget about the existence of the seller & the other nice stuff they might be offering. (this is from my ebay experience not etsy)


vixen_within
Just sharing an interesting link Jewelry Pricing Formula

I'm also wondering if anyone sells on RubyLane?
vixen_within
Crickets sad.gif
Does anyone here buy or sell on http://www.mintd.com? Someone pointed me to the site today as the alternative to etsy..
girl_logic
Well I'm sorry this thread doesn't see any action. I finally opened my shop it is here - any critical first impressions? If anyone is here...
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