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lot49
It does look pretty good, ginger kitty. Though coming out with a sequel 12(?) years later, especially following Jersey Girl makes me worry for it. Which is stupid, since I have my own problems. :-)

I thought POC was entertaining. Hype-worthy only because you realize how few fun movies are around these days.

Case in point: Rumor Has It, which I suffered through recently. The concept was amusing, but then it went downhill to suckville fast.
crafty_bastard
I was able to see Pirates through some connections I have last week and I really really liked it...it's long, but perfect for a summer movie and the fight scenes are so over the top they're great. Davy Jones is a total creep as well...it's good fun and great Johnny D eye candy.
celimene
Sorry, but I really hated the original POC, so I'm not going to see the sequel. I just didn't care about the characters and there was no real plot or story to speak of. I miss those great kids movies of the 80's like Goonies, where you really felt a connection with the characters, it wasn't just all silly special effects and fight scenes.
designermedusa
I never saw POC, and won't see this one. I just don't see what all the hype is about, why do people love pirates?

Is it me or is almost every film now being played the Thursday before it's opeing date. It's seems like every big movie is lately, even Nacho Libre where I live.
lot49
ARRRRRRRG

That's why. :-)

Also, yes you're right, movies are opening earlier, I think Superman opened on Wednesday. I think it's about the opening weekend numbers...but it seems like such an obvious way of manipulating the box office.
doxy
Pirate sailing movies are pretty cool. Everyone digs Peter Pan; Swiss Family Robinson simply can't be topped; Jason and the Argonauts was cool, too (even that porno Conquest was entertaining;)...hell, Goonies was a Pirate movie. I like ship movies anyway, the dad was in the navy. I won't see Pirates/Carribean at the theater though...I'll watch it as rental just like the previous one.

The creepy gay guy was in no way arousing and should have slept with the a-hole in the movie Wedding Crashers; which wasn't as funny as I'd have liked it to be.

What happened to the dialogue movies this year? I liked Friends with Money, somewhat. I want something like "Melvin Goes to Dinner" only with a better ending.
bunnyb
Saw Pirates of the Carribean: Dead Man's Chest last night. Was lots of fun and I watched the first one this morning as I babysat! I don't think it is as funny as the first one and I found it difficult to understand the pirate speak at some parts (reminded me of Heath Ledger in Brokeback!) Johnny Depp has camped it up more - if that's possible - and is sex on a skewer.
Possible spoiler in white: They did a total Matrix 2/3 thing at end, it's very much a to be continued... exciting though! and there is interesting relationship triangle development.
Oh, and does anyone think Keira Knightley is ridiculously tanned in it? She is supposed to be a lady.
sassygrrl
Caught "You, Me, and Dupree" last night at a free screening. It was okay. If you liked "Wedding Crashers" you'll like it. However, there wasn't much chemistry between Matt Dillion and Owen Wilson. I think it would have been better if Ben Stiller was in it, but then I guess they could have just made another "Zoolander." Definately a rental though.
Divala
I saw the new POC last weekend and really liked it, but it wasn't better than the first one. There are fewer scenes with the 3 main characters together (they're all together I think just once). The special effects and costumes were better, though. I can't wait until the 3rd one comes out. I heard from someone yesterday, and they may be wrong (I wouldn't be surprised), that they're planning to make this a 5-movie series. But as far as I'm concerned, only the ones with the Depp are real.

Also saw The Devil Wears Prada. I would have liked it a little better if the ending were closer to the book and Meryl Streep were meaner. It was good, but just lacking of something, maybe a little more juice and sparkle.
lot49
I saw "You, Me and Dupree" tonight ... There were some genuinely laugh out-loud funny parts and then some long boring stretches where the scenes are all predictible. There's also that adult woman/child man dynamic that I'm sick of seeing (yeah, I griped about this in here already after I saw The Breakup)...in particular, there's a side character who just wants to have fun, but is pussy-whipped by his wife, who's the controlling parent-spouse. gah.

Also...I have to admit that I like the Miami Vice preview (which I feel like I've seen before every movie since January). Everyone's racing around in cars and speedboats and making out and pulling guns and Linkin Park is playing in the background. But I know I won't see it since I find it impossible to take Colin Farrell seriously, espcially since he seems serious about channeling Don Johnson for the role.
anna k
I saw Pirates of the Caribbean 2. It was all right, but wasn't as interesting as the first one. I liked Naomie Harris as the voodoo priestess, she has beautiful shoulders. Even though it's a movie and not spontaneous, I liked all the adventure in it, and thought it looked fun to act out.
nohope
Any one thinking of seeing An Inconvenient Truth. Don’t bother.

Basically it’s a two-hour commercial for Al Gore and Macintosh.


Is there some interesting and frightening information in there? Sure. But the basic message is that we as individuals have to change, that we have to bow to the system, which is killing this earth, and elect better leaders.

Gores analyses is so fucked, it is beyond belief. Instead of challenging population growths and asking us to not have any more children, he is saying curb your consumption… as if consumption is simply a choice and not connected to a set of structural realities that force people to make environmentally destructive decisions out of necessity.

He mentions that co2 emissions and temperatures are skyrocketing and connected, but only gives global overpopulation a cursory look.

Instead he should be doing what he is accusing anti environmentalists of not doing, which is acknowledging that population growth, co2 emissions and global worming are inseparably linked.

The more people there are, the more resources must be expropriated, and more pollution is generated.

The graphs he shows demonstrate this correlation. We can’t choose to eat and live more sustainable when our resources are taxed but the burden of children living on our meager salaries. When we are the most financially strapped we are also the most restricted by the physical limits of our societies “planed” construction.

Which brings me to another totally overlooked aspect of global worming, poverty. Gore looks at poverty only thought he lenses of those poor people who will be displaced by rising sea levels and invade our countries.

This of course is bullshit. Poverty is the probably the single biggest contributor to global worming. It looks people out of education, and looks those with education but no resources in to the ways of living that are imposed for the outside for the purpose of expropriating continuously the last bits of resources from the poor until they die.

This movie is a soulless piece of propaganda garbage…
snafooey
I haven't seen the movie yet, Nohope, but isn't his issue with consumption that whole idea that North Americans use a highly disproportionate amount of energy compared to just about everyone else (including Europeans)? Isn't the idea that one Paris Hilton wastes more than, say, your average family of ten in Uganda?
crazyoldcatlady
saw grandma's boy.

tee hee.

slow at times but just the brain junk food i needed this weekend...
catsoup
Has anyone seen Strangers With Candy yet?
faerietails
I just saw A Scanner Darkly. This movie was a trip. I'm still not really sure what to make of it, but I liked it. I could follow it up until the last quarter or so, then the end lost me. Beautiful imagery, though. I still think I liked the imagery of Waking Life more, but it was mesmerizing nonetheless. I <3 Richard Linklater.
doxy
"Which brings me to another totally overlooked aspect of global worming, poverty. Gore looks at poverty only thought he lenses of those poor people who will be displaced by rising sea levels and invade our countries."

Having a laugh, are we? Sure, his message is utter crap...and it's only propaganda...thankfully you're young enough to see the shit go down (hopefully you'll remember your thought provoking post). Inconvient Truth...none of it's true and we're growing glaciers by the second...it's the exact opposite...I have identical thinking friends that went and couldn't wait to come back to critique those in the crowd that nodded in approval.

Ok, watched Angel Heart. I attended a Voodoo Service to hex the hurricane season at the city's last standing Voodoo temple. Everything was in Haitian and French...had to check out Angel Heart again. Damn good flick for the 80's.

Anyone recommend any newly released foreign films? Got to the foreign section and was clueless tonight?
celimene
Miami Vice SUCKED. It takes itself far too seriously and is NOTHING like the TV show. There were literally no fun moments, both male leads are faithful to their girlfriends from beginning to end, so there is no fun sexual banter, a la Don Johnson, etc. It was like a typical good guy/bad guy cops vs. druggies, only with great cinematography from Michael Mann. It also employed far too much use of Lincoln Park on the soundtrack for my taste.

Saw Nacho Libre and thought it was really funny (although nowhere near as good as School of Rock).

Attempted to watch Paul Walker's film, Running Scared on netflix. DON'T if you can avoid it. It's the most ridiculous, violent movie I've ever seen!
karianne
I've seen a couple of movies lately.

Last night went to see Strangers with Candy. I thought it was funny. If you like the show, you'll probably like it.

Watched Shopgirl on DVD. I hadn't read the book, my friend had & said they changed the characters a little. I loved Jason Schwartzman's performance though, it was spot on.
lunasol
Right, Nohope, because anyone with a different perspective and different opinions is "soulless."

Anyway, I saw Strangers with Candy and thoroughly enjoyed it. It was even more inappropriate than the TV show, if you can believe it. Very, very funny tho. And, as always both Stephen Colbert and amy Sedaris were the bomb.

Oh, and I also saw The Devil Wears Prada and it was about what you'd expect. Pretty clothes, boring plot, awesome Meryl Streep. Anne Hathaway was disapointing after her role in Brokeback Mountain. I felt "meh" about it.
lot49
celimene, thanks for dispelling any desire I had to go see MV!

I can't wait to see Strangers with Candy. Not playing anywhere near me yet though. sigh.
nohope
QUOTE(doxy @ Jul 18 2006, 06:46 AM) *

"Which brings me to another totally overlooked aspect of global worming, poverty. Gore looks at poverty only thought he lenses of those poor people who will be displaced by rising sea levels and invade our countries."

Having a laugh, are we? Sure, his message is utter crap...and it's only propaganda...thankfully you're young enough to see the shit go down (hopefully you'll remember your thought provoking post). Inconvient Truth...none of it's true and we're growing glaciers by the second...it's the exact opposite...I have identical thinking friends that went and couldn't wait to come back to critique those in the crowd that nodded in approval.

Ok, watched Angel Heart. I attended a Voodoo Service to hex the hurricane season at the city's last standing Voodoo temple. Everything was in Haitian and French...had to check out Angel Heart again. Damn good flick for the 80's.

Anyone recommend any newly released foreign films? Got to the foreign section and was clueless tonight?


Upon what assumption did this post turn? That you believe I believe global warming is a myth? Or is it that I believe global warming is a very real danger, and you believe it is a myth….

Quite frankly with me knowing what you think you read it is hard for me to tell what it is you said.
nohope
QUOTE(lunasol @ Jul 19 2006, 03:01 PM) *

Right, Nohope, because anyone with a different perspective and different opinions is "soulless."


Actual what I said is that the film is soulless. I made no judgment about anyone else or their opinions. Though considering that I am an atheist, I don’t believe Gore, myself or anyone else for that matter has a soul.

But I was actually using soul in s different sense… and in the sense I was using it…. I feel the opinions and ideas that seem to be presented in this film are without a soul… that is they lack compassion…. Because they fail to take into account that peoples “choices” are not infinite but rather bounded by very real social, economic, and political constraints…. Constraints by which those in power maintain their power, which is why they always boil down everything to other people’s individual choices…

What needs to happen is that the social institutions, the economic matrices, and political institutions, need to change…

They need to become more transparent, more democratic, more responsive to local needs…. While being more empathetic to other peoples needs….

Instead of a social, economic and political paradigm that focuses on individuals competing for scarce resources… we need a model by which we negotiate to utilize those scarce resources to create less scarcity in the future.

Yeah that means making choices which take other peoples needs into consideration, and it means creating political and economic systems which may impose limits on us individually in the short term, so that we can all prosper in the long-term.

Parecon http://www.zmag.org/parecon/indexnew.htm might be one possible such system.

nohope
QUOTE(snafooey @ Jul 17 2006, 11:54 PM) *

I haven't seen the movie yet, Nohope, but isn't his issue with consumption that whole idea that North Americans use a highly disproportionate amount of energy compared to just about everyone else (including Europeans)? Isn't the idea that one Paris Hilton wastes more than, say, your average family of ten in Uganda?


Yes that is one of his mane arguments. But again it fails to take class, gender, race or any other variable into account.

Take cars just for an example… We here at bust have had many discussions about the limitation to giving up ones car…. And I have been maybe one of the loudest and shrillest proponents of the “well anyone can do it” mantra, “having a car is just an irresponsible choice.”

But the fact I think is that despite my pontification, there are real hard to overcome barriers to both giving up a car or driving cars which are more fuel-efficient.

Giving up a car, requires a basic restructuring of not just the infrastructure of our landscape, our cities our public transportation, our shopping centers and living quarters, our places of work… All of which are vastly less efficiently and more car dependent than say that same infrastructure in Europe.

And then there is class. The difference in the earnings of the poorest half of our population form the top half is huge and growing. And this means that the bottom half literally can’t afford newer more fuel efficientnt cars… In fact they can barley afford the fuel so even if they drive the same car, they can’t afford the burden of more expensive less polluting fuels.

And gender… there are real issues of safety that cause women to proffer to travel by car…. Rather say than walking.

The same goes for race… you don’t want to have to walk through a white neighborhood if you are black…. American is as racist as ever…

And that is just car’s…. every “choice” we make is based on a whole set of other concerns which constrict our choices to just a few undesirable ones.

To combat global warming… we can’t just say. Live GREENER, we have to address all the issues which combine to cause it.

That’s why the Green Party US platform considers Feminism as a key part of its platform… It understands that women’s liberation is fundamental to ecological sustainability.

celimene
But Al Gore's movie isn't about HOW you can help address the issue of global warming, it seems the message there is first and foremost to acknowledge that Global Warming is a problem and that it does indeed exist. The HOW is only barely addressed as the credits of the film are rolling. If Gore does indeed run in 2008, then yes, the movie is a blatant use of propoganda for him. If he doesn't, then I guess we can all agree that he just wanted to get out the message. As for the whole car issue - I live in Los Angeles, and it's absolutely ridiculous, the amount of times people could carpool, yet choose to drive alone, in SUV's no less! I get really mad because my neighborhood (as is the case with most in LA) has very narrow streets but barely any driveways, so most people who live there park on the street. When 90% of the cars parked belong to single people (with no dogs or children) and are huge SUV's, it makes it very hard to navigate when two cars are coming oppposite directions. I am always screaming about how I think you should have to get a special license to drive an SUV that proves you have some sort of need for such an enormous gas guzzling vehicle. California is strange because on the one hand, they have stricter environmental rules on auto emissions than other states, and while lots of people here do drive hybrids, the other half own huge luxury vehicles! My thoughts on global warming are, that as individuals, we should do our best to take care and try NOT to exacerbate the problem, as we ourselves have nothing to lose, even if the theory itself turns out to be a bunch of hooha in the end.
thingsarenice
Am I the only one offended by the premise of My Super Ex-Girlfriend? Haha! She's stalking and trying to kill her ex! That's freaking hilarious! If it were like, Batman or someone stalking his ex-girlfriend (which he totally would, the moody bastard) you couldn't make a comedy out of it, so what is it about reversing the roles in the situation that's supposed to be so funny?
lot49
I actually kind of like the premise of My Super Ex-Girlfriend...breaking up with a superhero seems like a decent idea for a comedy...but I see the potential for it being pretty awful if it really dwells on her neediness...Or if she ends up saving the world and getting Luke Wilson back (with emphasis on the latter being the real accomplishment). I'll wait and see.

I'm so hoping that Lady in the Water is good.


octobersky
Finally saw Pirates, and all I can say is...

Johnny Depp in eyeliner!!!!!!!!!!! wub.gif




(Oh and I really, really, really want to see Clerks II)
nohope
QUOTE(celimene @ Jul 19 2006, 11:42 PM) *

But Al Gore's movie isn't about HOW you can help address the issue of global warming, it seems the message there is first and foremost to acknowledge that Global Warming is a problem and that it does indeed exist. The HOW is only barely addressed as the credits of the film are rolling. If Gore does indeed run in 2008, then yes, the movie is a blatant use of propoganda for him. If he doesn't, then I guess we can all agree that he just wanted to get out the message. As for the whole car issue - I live in Los Angeles, and it's absolutely ridiculous, the amount of times people could carpool, yet choose to drive alone, in SUV's no less! I get really mad because my neighborhood (as is the case with most in LA) has very narrow streets but barely any driveways, so most people who live there park on the street. When 90% of the cars parked belong to single people (with no dogs or children) and are huge SUV's, it makes it very hard to navigate when two cars are coming oppposite directions. I am always screaming about how I think you should have to get a special license to drive an SUV that proves you have some sort of need for such an enormous gas guzzling vehicle. California is strange because on the one hand, they have stricter environmental rules on auto emissions than other states, and while lots of people here do drive hybrids, the other half own huge luxury vehicles! My thoughts on global warming are, that as individuals, we should do our best to take care and try NOT to exacerbate the problem, as we ourselves have nothing to lose, even if the theory itself turns out to be a bunch of hooha in the end.


It’s in the analyses of what drives global warming that my objections rest. The simplification and sanitization of global warming in to a discussion of CO2 without any real discussion of what drives those emissions.
sassygrrl
Okay, saw "My Super Ex Girlfriend..." Two words: Eddie Izzard. I loved it. I thought it was good summer flick. I forgot that Uma Thurman is like 8 feet tall.

Going to go see Scanner Darkly tomorrow night, and probably Devil Wears Prada on Sunday...
zillahgirl
I'ma say it right now. I liked "Lady in the Water". It was just what I thought it would be and just what I needed after a long week at work. M. Night hasn't failed me yet.
ginger_kitty
Anybody check out Clerks 2? I really haven't heard much and want to know how it was. As good as the first one?
catsoup
I saw Clerks 2. I liked it but it's definitely not as good as the original. It's about what you would expect.
anarch
QUOTE(nohope @ Jul 21 2006, 11:55 PM) *

It’s in the analyses of what drives global warming that my objections rest. The simplification and sanitization of global warming in to a discussion of CO2 without any real discussion of what drives those emissions.


Considering that his target audience is the great masses of consumers who think global warming is a crock, I think simplification was necessary. Persuasion requires not alienating the people you're speaking to. The concepts of individual responsibility and the necessity of each of us changing our habits is, I bet, plenty alienating enough for the average moviegoer. Got to hook them first and introduce complexities later. It's a start.

(Roger Ebert's review ended with him saying that he "went home and turned off all the lights," as if he'd never before connected global warming to his electricity bill. Not enough, but far better than denial and dismissal.)
sixelacat
I saw My Super Ex-Girlfriend, too. Meh. I loved Eddie's role, I just wish it was more involved in the plot, y'know? More evil villian stuff would have been funny. And more Wanda Sykes! She could have been so funny if they'd given her more lines! I found Luke Wilson kind of boring. What's-his-name from the american Office was funny, in that creepy way he's so good at!

sassy, did you go see Scanner Darkly? How was it? Haven't quite made up my mind to see it yet....
saktii
I just saw Leonard Cohen, I'm Your Man.... I'm a huuuuuge fan of his, but I have to say that the concert footage of other people doing his songs really sucked hardcore. It's entirely redeemed by the interviews with Mr. Cohen himself, though.
He is so humble and unassuming that it's hard to beleive that the guy is considered one of the greatest songwriters who ever lived.
sassygrrl
I wish Eddie's role was more meatier. A review said that the only time that the plot got good was when he was on screen. "A ham??" Heh. I think his website lead to to believe that it was. Although, I was giggling harder than everyone else at his scenes. Yeah, I'm a little obsessed.

I thought Luke was boring, and Wanyda Sykes role was just random... The Office guy was good though. He tends to play the same role though.

Overall, it was a good way to beat the heat.

Didn't get to see A Scanner Darkly yet. Although, my friends loved it. May catch that or Pirates this weekend.

Going to catch Clerks 2 tonight. I'll report back.
karianne
I saw Pirates of the Car. this week. I know it's gotten some so-so reviews, but I thought it was really entertaining. I think I was prepared for the worst after what I've heard people say.

Someone else commented on Keira Knightly's skin being tan...what I noticed was that she & Orlando's teeth were gleaming white. It was especially pronounced compared to the nasty pirates teeth others had, but still. I don't think they had bleach back then??
sassygrrl
Clerks 2 was really good. I liked it. Obviously, not as good as the original, but it was nice to see the characters again....

Probably going to catch Scanner Darkly this weekend.
anna k
I stayed up late to watch Simply Irresistable. I love the mythical romance, the Betsey Johnson dresses, Patricia Clarkson, and the sweet aura of it all.
bunnyb
The Sarah Michelle Gellar one? I love that movie and have it on dvd! It is so cheesy and funnily enough about food which is perhaps why I love it so...

Has anyone seen Cars? I'm looking forward to seeing Volver which opens here in arthouse cinema at end of August.
ginger_kitty
Went to see Clerks 2, and loved it. It held true to the original, the characters were just a little older. Not as good as the first one, but really good all the same.

I can't wait for V for Vendetta to come out on video next week, I missed it in the theater and I want to see it so much.
sybarite
I have to say I really liked Miami Vice. Other than using the same characters, it doesn't refer to the TV series at all. It's set in the present and is played totally straight and moves along at a good clip. It's completely cinematic junk food, but it works.

Colin Farrell is decent but sports seriously dubious (and dirty) hair. His love interest is played by Gong Li who is amazing. She acts everyone off of the screen. Jamie Foxx is good and Justin Thereoux lurks beautifully in the background.

Michael Mann has indulged himself with the soundtrack, which is testosterone fuelled and more guitar-driven than I would have expected.
vesicapisces
GingerKitty, I *loved* V for Vendetta. I only wished it could have gone on longer.
sybarite
Rented Ellie Parker on DVD and thoroughly disliked it. I was interested in it because it professes to be a satire of the Hollywood industry, specifically the acting process, and stars Naomi Watts, but it was the most drawn out, unfunny, self-indulgent film I have seen for some time. I think the director is too invested in the industry and lifestyle he's trying to satirise. There were also way too many rambling scenes of Ellie (Watts) driving all over LA, ruminating for hours.

There were a couple of funny observations but they were few and far between.
anna k
I liked The Night Listener. It's only about an hour and a half, and pretty engaging. Robin Williams is a radio DJ who develops a relationship with a dying boy over the phone, then there is speculation that the boy doesn't exist and the mother either is bipolar or a con artist.

I read that Ellie Parker started as a short film. Should've stayed that way.
roseviolet
Saw Miami Vice yesterday. A decent action film I guess. No big suprises, but interesting. Very little talk. Far more focused on brooding & action.

My main problem is that it didn't feel like Miami Vice to me. My husband owns DVDs of a couple seasons of the old TV show & this movie just doesn't blend in with it at all. The feeling is completely different. The characters are completely different. I walked out feeling as though they used this title just to generate some interest in an average everyday action film. As an action film on it's own? It's okay. But Colin Farrel's portrayal of Sonny Crockett does not hold true to the original character. The two have nothing in common. Same goes for Jamie Fox & his portrayal of Tubs. I would have been much happier if they'd created new characters. Afterall, it's been 20 years. Shouldn't Crockett & Tubs be off the streets by now? Retired even?

The things that made the original TV series interesting - the innovations in cinematography, music, fashion, & even the silly humor that occasionally came out - were all totally lacking in this movie. Don't get me wrong, though. I wasn't expecting to see the '80s reborn or anything. But the movie & the TV series ... they just feel so completely unrelated to one another. I just don't see why they called the film Miami Vice. So I say go if you want to see an action film with shooting, the occasional explosion, & not a lot of talk. But don't go expecting anything remotely close to the TV series.
anna k
Yeah, exactly. And I can't imagine Jamie Foxx trying to be sexy with a name like Tubbs.
faerietails
Just got back from seeing Scoop. I loved it. Scarlett can't act for shit (which was most painfully obvious when she was trying to keep up with Woody), but I loved it. And Hugh Jackman...mmmmmmmmmmmm!!! Mmm mmm mmmmm!!! IPB Image
ginger_kitty
We rented V for Vendetta last night. (finally) It was beautiful film, I loved it so much. It's now one of my favorite movies. But the mask kind of seemed to muffle V's voice a bit. But the acting, sets, and story were just brillant!
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