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aviatrix
bay area and austin busties, the superb thai film "tears of the black tiger" is opening or playing in your area. if you love daring, bombastic off beat films, do look for, and support it. you will be glad you did. it's one of my fave films of all times.

village voice review: Tot Black Tiger
"Place this bright Black Tiger in the company of 2046, Curse of the Golden Flower, and Three Times as evidence that the last gasp of celluloid exuberance draws its deepest breath in Asia."
yemaya
QUOTE(aviatrix @ Feb 15 2007, 08:03 PM) *

bay area and austin busties, the superb thai film "tears of the black tiger" is opening or playing in your area. if you love daring, bombastic off beat films, do look for, and support it. you will be glad you did. it's one of my fave films of all times.

village voice review: Tot Black Tiger
"Place this bright Black Tiger in the company of 2046, Curse of the Golden Flower, and Three Times as evidence that the last gasp of celluloid exuberance draws its deepest breath in Asia."



Excellent. Perhaps it will be featured down this way. I have been following Asian Cinema, that I can actually stomach (some of it can be very graphic and disturbing, especially Japanese Cinema) and if it does come this way I will definitely support it.

The few I saw in the last couple of weeks. Could not get through Oldboy-respect the idea of vengenace, revenge themee though. Audition-shudders, Infernal Affairs-better than the Departed.
aviatrix
a few interesting asian films that are lighter on the extreme violence are 3-iron, 9souls, last life in the universe, bright future, memories of murder, joint security area(jsa), ping pong (chinese), battle royale, attack the gas station, all about lily chou chou, fireworks, kamikaze girls, sharkskin man and the peach-hip girl, and versus.

all are excellent and you won't miss the graphic violence for a second (although they do have some violence). i can also recommend sympathy for lady vengeance. while there is violence, it's mostly implied, and it is by the director of oldboy.

i'll think of a few more. you can always go for the romantic films of wong kar-wei. they are way more existetial and are no more violent than classic hollywood fare. if you click on girl trouble's netflix/movie pal link in her sig, i am sure there are more....
chachaheels
crazyoldcatlady said:
QUOTE
but that movie didn't leave a feel-good sugary taste in my mouth that i thought it was supposed to do. you know, normal-girl-conforms-only-to-see-true-inner-beauty-and-strength-and-character kind of movie. it was more like girl-at-center-of-fat-jokes-who-isn't-fat-becomes-a-size-4-and-her-size-is-one-manifestation-of-her-success.

it actually kind of made me feel shitty.

does that make sense?


I thought is was one of the "lady, you can't have it all--you have to live without love if you want success, or live without success if you want love!" genre films. Like so many others.

And very much unlike the book, where the heroine of the story quits the dumb job, hauls all the designer clothes to a consignment shop and sells them for double what she was paid in a year, never breaks up with her boyfriend during the course of the experience, and actually gets a superior magazine job as a result of a contact she made while at Vogue.

But I guess we wouldn't have had the anti-feminist lecture in that version, so, you know, no way.
karianne
I saw The Devil Wears Prada and I remember I didn't like the ending, but I've forgotten what it is.

Last night I saw Notes on a Scandal. Very good. Judi Dench was creeeepy!
snafooey
Wheels in motion for Milli Vanilli biopic
aviatrix
QUOTE
But I guess we wouldn't have had the anti-feminist lecture in that version, so, you know, no way.


Uh...i know i've said it before, but, chacha, i love you....
bunnyb
I went to a film festival showing (with writer/director and some of the cast) of Cashback this evening; it was originally an Oscar nominated short (last year's awards) now extended into a feature film. It is a Brit surreal romcom, which was actually funny but there were parts of it that seemed like a male student's wet-dream. Ben (Sean Biggerstaff - Oliver Wood in Harry Potter) is a recently dumped art student who -as a result of the breakup- is an insomniac so takes up a nightshift mind-numbing job in a supermarket. To while away the 8 boring hours he stops time and paints/draws the female form (in its naked glory); certainly more productive and aesthetic a pass-time than two of his fellow co-workers who do silly things like "save" women by slipping shampoo bottles into their shopping basket - shampoo bottles that double as sex toys. There are certainly parts of the film I recognise, having funded my education through mind-numbing employment.
anna k
I went to see Music and Lyrics, despite reading so-so reviews. It's a very sweet film, but I didn't buy the romance. It just didn't see believable to me. However, I liked seeing all those wrinkles around Hugh's eyes and Drew's general cuteness.
yemaya
QUOTE(aviatrix @ Feb 16 2007, 01:45 AM) *

a few interesting asian films that are lighter on the extreme violence are 3-iron, 9souls, last life in the universe, bright future, memories of murder, joint security area(jsa), ping pong (chinese), battle royale, attack the gas station, all about lily chou chou, fireworks, kamikaze girls, sharkskin man and the peach-hip girl, and versus.

all are excellent and you won't miss the graphic violence for a second (although they do have some violence). i can also recommend sympathy for lady vengeance. while there is violence, it's mostly implied, and it is by the director of oldboy.

i'll think of a few more. you can always go for the romantic films of wong kar-wei. they are way more existetial and are no more violent than classic hollywood fare. if you click on girl trouble's netflix/movie pal link in her sig, i am sure there are more....


Thank you.
tommynomad
Here's a wee rundown of my Korean cinematic adventures over the last couple of weeks:

The Host was great, senseless fun. Who but Koreans would think of making a family movie (as in "about a family" not "for your kids") featuring a murderous, giant amphibian? A lot more fun than Spielberg's been in about a decade.

The King and the Clown is a fabulously lush, homoerotically-charged period piece about Korea's most famous crazy king and the troubadours he lets perform at court, to the dismay of all around him. Great women, great pairings, great outfits, and a little Shakespeare--yum!

Mr Robin Ggosigi is a bad romcom. Despite HUGE press, I think it flopped here, probably due to the bilingual script. I'd say it was the ludicrous premise, script, and execution, but unfortunately--despite geniuses like Kim Ki-duk and Bong Joon-ho--at the Korean box office (like most other places), mediocrity still usually sells.

Time was sooooo bizarre. It's an at times creepy, at times laughable criticism of the beauty obsession. A woman is so afraid that her bf will stray that she goes to cosmetic extremes to keep him interested. A little too weird, a little too self-indulgent, but full of striking images and unanswered questions (the last photograph to appear in the film still has me scratching my head) all spell Kim Ki-Duk. Sadly, the pacing is less than up to his usual stuff, and the ending is a huge cop-out. It made a helluva impression on all of us, though.

Lies is sexy without apology or judgement. It is also not even a little gentle. Bordering on S-&-M porn, Shenomad's ongoing response to it was: "I can't believe they got this made in Korea." And it really is a movie all about our reaction to it. I doubt it ever played in a theatre here: the Korean authorities jailed the writer of this obsessive tale for six months--the writer! I thought Lies was shocking, beautiful, outrageous, dirty, infuriating, transgressive, visceral: I could go on and on. Everything Old Boy is to hyperviolence, this movie is to taboo. Caveat viewer: you will be offended, but you'll probably love it.
girltrouble
OMGMOGMOMGOMGOMGOMGOMMGMG!

YOU'VE SEEN THE HOST?!?

i am so super jealous.

i know it came across as senseless fun, but from what i heard from the director's interviews is that the subtext is all about american imperialism. and looking at that director's other films i'd say that not only does he have the fimic intelectual heft to pull that off, but that he could candy coat it as light fun? oh yeah he could. that guy is genious.

i've heard about the king and the clown and time and lies (which i am so looking forward to). haven't heard of mr. robin, but i'm glad i haven't.

snuck into some movies yesturday:
saw:

children of men-- fantastic wonderful movie. too optimistic for me, but that's ok. much has been said of it's long takes, and those were wonderful, but i loved the locations (special attention to graffitti messages and signs) women with men's names-- names have a special meaning in that movie. the abu graib scenes, etc. but the best was the use of sound. great.

the messengers-- came late to the movie, figured it out in 10 minutes. drek.

ghost rider-- other than the casting, dumb. canibalized scenes from blade and others. but sam elliot and peter "easy rider" fonda as satan was a hoot! eva mendez was aweful, and nick cage was as bad as i thought he'd be. his elvis fetish isn't 2% as funny or as intresting as he thinks it is. he's offically worse than tom cruse for wrecking films with his creative ideas. jelly beans? wtf?! ugh. although i love karen carpenter too, so that was ok. and i did love the ghost rider scenes. what does it mean when you only look forward to the cgi in a movie?

notes on a scandle-- great. that sort of quiet small scale, working class suspense that the brits do so well.

speaking of suspense. there was a preview for a movie called "disturbia" which is-- from the preview --is essentually a remake of hitchcock's rear window. wtf?!
*person spying on neighbors-- check!
*leg disability that leaves protagonist house bound-- check!
*blonde who spies a bit too-- check!
*possible murder-- check!

didn't brian depalma fail miserably trying this in the 80's with body double? *shudder*
mamachi
I saw Inland Empire, David Lynch a couple weeks ago. Laura Dern is so fucking cool. i loved Wild at heart, amazing movie, it made me want to go to bed with all three: david lynch, laura dern and nicolas cage.
aviatrix
hey tommy, have you had a chance to see "i'm a cyborg but that's ok." yet? or "like a virgin?"
nohope
sorry about that
snafooey
Nohope, you might want to check out the "Your favourite youtube" (and beyond) thread.
tommynomad
I haven't seen either of those, aviatrix (I always have to wait for Korean movies to be released on DVD, though).
I heard "Cyborg" made a huge splash at Berlin this year, though.

tart
Bumping this baby up a notch, because I saw the Trailer for Black Snake Moan the other night...

What. The fuck. Is that about? What's left of Christina Ricci, chained to a radiator? I found the plot summary online, and while yes, it does explain a bit, I still have this foul taste in my mouth. I think it's the verging-on-pornographic tagline: Everything's hotter down South. Ick ick ick.

/prudishness (goddamn, I'm getting old...)
aviatrix
yeah, i saw that too tart, and had about the same reaction. but they did a thing on ebert and roeper, with guest kevin smith, and they both LOVED it. they called it a romantic movie where the two charecters don't have sex.
it was a preview review, so i assume they will give it a go again this weekend.

the movie trailer that offended me a few days ago was for the hills have eyes 2. i'm all for horror movies, hell i see almost any asian/asian remake that comes down the pike, but there is something INCREDIBLY TASTELESS about a horror movie with soldiers from the national guard getting killed. there might be a theme of american adventure coming back to bite us in the ass, and lord knows, i'm the first one to say it does-- i'm absolutely a pasifist--, but just the idea of this movie makes my blood boil.
candycane_girl
girltrouble, I saw the preview for that Disturbia movie and thought the exact same thing! Seriously, how can they so blatantly copy the same concept as Rear Window?

I saw the preview for Black Snake Moan and I was intrigued. I want to see it but I'll probably wait for video.

I saw Babel tonight and I was really impressed. I remember someone complaining that Brad Pitt was hardly in it, which I thought was a stupid comment because that's not what matters. I loved learning how everything was connected and just wondering what would happen next.
girltrouble
lol... i know, candy, i guess no one actually watches old movies anymore. it could be worse. it could be shot for shot remake of psycho (ugh), but i don't wan't to write it off completely. i will probably see rear window before i go to see disturbia so i can see everything they change. remakes can be good if they are updated and the context tweaked. two of my favorite sci-fi movies are remakes-- abel fererra's "bodysnatchers" is brilliant if you ask me, as is john carpenter's "the thing."

on the upside, it's also what i like to call a "litmus test film." any reviewer worth his salt will talk about rear window in their review.

speaking of litmus test films, i was talking to a person whose movie taste is somewhat dubious, and i mentioned carpenter's "the thing" and he said he hated it, which meant i was free to ignore any movie opinions he had in the future (i was doing that already-- he loves steven segal movies). my theory is anyone who loves sci-fi or horror who doesn't think "the thing" is a great remake, well, we won't have much in common taste wise.

i asked another friend if she had a litmus test movie, and she said, "dumb and dumber." i which, couldn't watch 5 minutes of. one of my movie reviewing friends thought braking the waves was the end all. and as much as i loved lars van trier before that movie (i thought he was the end all), afterwords, i thought he was just pretentious. in both cases, i suppose to them, my opinion is worth discounting.

so at the risk of sounding like a snob, (this is just my opinion, which, all and all, isn't worth squat) and in a spirit of playfulness, what are your good and bad litmus test movies?

good screwball comedy litmus: his girl friday / bringing up baby

good black comedy: afterhours / brazil

bad art house: magnolia / almost any david lynch

good art house: drugstore cowboy / happiness / momento / any pete greenaway

good gangster: goodfellas / scarface
designermedusa
I saw Reno 911 Miami which I didn't care for, and watched a film called Red Doors on dvd which was really good. I feel like February is the wasteland for quality film releases. I need some smart films to open where I live.
nickclick
while i was rooting for little miss sunshine, i'm still happy the departed won best picture last nite and scorsese finally got his.
ginger_kitty
I was happy to hear the Departed won, too.

Horrified by a preview for a new Larry the Cable guy movie. He makes my skin crawl! I am scared of whoever his fan base may be.

Black Snake Moan looks creepy from the preview.
sidecar
I saw a preview screening of Zodiac last night, and it was pretty good. I thought it was a bit conventional for a David Fincher film, but definitely his all the same. One of the murder scenes was pretty tough to take, but he did a good job of holding himself back to make them that much scarier.

All the performances are really good; even small roles become meaningful in it. It's got some gorgeous long takes in it, too.

Last weekend, I watched The Wicker Man, which might be one of the most misogynistic movies I've ever seen. It is also hilariously awful, particularly the last half-hour.
girltrouble
oh wicker man should have been burned. it was horrible. and i swear, i loathe nick cage more with each movie he screws up. and he really screws up ghost rider. not that i expected that much. but he still messes it up with his damn elvis impressions. ok, great, can you just date what's her head presley again and shut up? please?
sidecar
I had to keep reminding myself while I watched Nic Cage punching out women while wearing a bear suit and yelling "You bitches" that this man actually did deserve his Oscar.
girltrouble
uh, sidecar...i'm in love with your puppy.. its the goofy look + the yellow bow. it's so....fetching!
amilita
I just finished watching the Up Series...Seven Up through 49 Up. Wow. It's so amazing to watch as people grow up and live their lives...to see how they change and how they stay the same. Loved it big time.

Watched Hollywoodland last night...it was OK.

Hope to go see Zodiac tonight. Was talking to a co-worker about movies, and when I mentioned it, she said she can't see it because she remembers when it was happening. She lived close to San Francisco, I think, and she said it was so terrifying. I can only imagine.
LoveMyPugs
saw

little miss sunshine

and

the illusionist

both are very good.
designermedusa
I watched Shut Up and Sing tonight, and I enjoyed it. I was never a Dixie Chicks fan before the controversy, but this doc was good.
sidecar
Aw thanks, girltrouble! Her name is Sophie, and she is currently curled into a ball next to me on the couch. I am biased, but she is the greatest dog ever.
LoveMyPugs
sidecar -

Umm...NO!

My dogs are the best in the world. Just kidding. LOL!!!

I mean who doesn't think that their dog(s) are the best in the world. I tell mine constantly so they are very conceited. When I take Pinky to the dog park she sits on the bench with the people because she doesn't fraternize with such mongrels. Shelby will play with anything. She’s a little psycho sometimes in all honesty. I wish I had a good close up of her. She’s got the buggiest eyes of any pug I’ve ever seen. I showed her picture to my cousin the other day and all my cousin kept saying over and over was, “Her eyes are so big!” LOL
anna k
I saw Black Snake Moan. I liked it, even though parts of it were weak. The audience mostly laughed at it, like anytime Sam Jackson gets pissed off. Christina Ricci was great in it, she was like a feral animal.
girltrouble
saw roll bounce last night. i really liked it, although, having grown up in the 70's there were a littany of things that just weren't around in the film's time frame. the soundtrack was great-- so many songs that i love, heart's barracuda to bill wither's lovely day-- and although i have all but one of the songs on vinyl, i still want the soundtrack. ooooo speaking of which i just got some new rekids today so i can bump the record thread--- yay!

the other great thing about roll bounce is the guy who plays "sweetness." he is the guy who is the bad ass rollerskater. his face just kills me.
girltrouble
not that this has anything to do with movies, but i am just having a bad case of pet envy. i keep waving at all the dog avitars, and yesturday i went to the dog park with my ex's mastiff puppy who is the size of most dogs at five months. i swear i fell in love with every dog there...
designermedusa
I saw Black Snake Moan today, and I really liked it. Christina Ricci played her character well, I think it's the best she's been since Buffalo '66. Samuel L. Jackson was hilarious. I'm wondering what the profanity count was in that film.

girlt, yay for doggies.
karianne
I liked Reno 911 Miami too. I saw it last week with my sister, we both laughed quite a bit. Had she not wanted to see it, I probaly woulda just rented it though.

Friday I watched United 93 . It was heartbreaking, esp the bonus features where you meet all the families. The movie was really well done though, not sensational at all, very respectful.

Last night we saw Zodiac , which I thought was enjoyable. It reminded me a lot of Summer of Sam with Jon Legiuzamo (sp?). Zodiac is really long, but it flew by.
mandolyn
we enjoyed reno 911 too, and laughed throughout. but it helps if you love the series, i think.

watched stranger than fiction on friday. really enjoyed it. despite my fierce loathing of will ferrell. great writing. emma thompson can do no wrong, she player her part perfectly. i even liked dustin. (he's had so many crap roles lately. it's beyond sad, considering the roles he used to get way back when.)

next on tap:

for your consideration and an inconvenient truth.

i don't know if i want to see babel. i'm not sure i can take it. somehow i suspect it's going to undo me.
culturehandy
*delurks*

I saw Pans Labyrinth a while ago, and it was an amazing film.

That's all.

*relurks*
vesicapisces
QUOTE(sidecar @ Mar 2 2007, 01:57 PM) *

...Nic Cage punching out women while wearing a bear suit and yelling "You bitches"...


Yow. Seriously?

On a happier note, I saw The Painted Veil on Saturday, and it was lovely. A real old fashioned character-driven movie, with no special effects or car chases. It reminded me a lot of the Merchant-Ivory films - just graceful and engrossing and awesome.
sidecar
Mando, I liked Stranger than Fiction a lot, although I really like Will Ferrell (Anchorman, Old School, and Talladega Nights all send me into fits of laughter) but I especially loved Emma in that movie! I liked how she always put her cigarettes out with wet paper towels.

You know, with Black Snake Moan, I decided not to see it, even though I'm sure the acting is really good. I thought Hustle and Flow, the director's previous movie, was really sexist--all the women were either shrews (and mostly shrewish whores) or whores with hearts of gold. I didn't feel like there was any nuance to the females at all, and I dunno, I just can't see that improving in a movie about chaining a half-dressed sexy girl to a radiator so an old man can cure her of nymphomania. I don't feel like I can pass judgement on it without seeing it, but at the same time, I can't say I'm hugely tempted to see it.

I saw Zodiac last week and liked it a lot; it does go by quickly despite being long! I also got into a test screening of the new Harry Potter movie, which I liked a lot (and you can read more on that in the Hogwarts thread, should you feel so moved.)

GT, Sophie played with a corgi at the dog park today. I wasn't there but Martini said it was pretty awesome.
girltrouble
oh! sophie! she's such a sweetie!

i'm pissed because i didn't see a movie. a indy theatre was showing the earrings of madame de... it's a max olphus movie-- meaning it's going to be a wonderfuly technincal, stunningly beautiful film. if you like orson welles' baroque visual swagger in touch of evil, then you'd love olphus. imagine wells, but with a softer more feminine vibe and you are in the ball park. i've only seen two of his movies, la ronde (which is where richard linkletter got the structure for his first film slacker) and lola montez, which is quite possibly one of the most beautiful movies i've seen.

all this talk of movies is making me want to make wed a movie day... hmmmm.... and tears of the black tiger is in town. and i'd go see it by myself, but i'd love to take someone who's never seen it...but none of my friends are as movie addicted as i am. *sniff*
chachaheels
Finally got a chance to actually see the movies we rented this weekend, and they were pretty good: Stranger than Fiction, and The Prestige. Usually we try--put a film in, then we're both sleeping like the comatose within minutes.

Loved the Prestige, and despite my dislike of Will Ferrel's script choices in general, I really liked Stranger than Fiction, too. I loved the guitar shopping scenes, and I thought Dustin Hoffman's typically obsessed/constantly eating English professor was pretty realistic. It was a very funny role for him. All really good, considering there's nothing in the theatres I'd like to see right now.
nickclick
QUOTE(sidecar @ Mar 5 2007, 10:57 PM) *
You know, with Black Snake Moan, I decided not to see it, even though I'm sure the acting is really good. I thought Hustle and Flow, the director's previous movie, was really sexist--all the women were either shrews (and mostly shrewish whores) or whores with hearts of gold. I didn't feel like there was any nuance to the females at all, and I dunno, I just can't see that improving in a movie about chaining a half-dressed sexy girl to a radiator so an old man can cure her of nymphomania. I don't feel like I can pass judgement on it without seeing it, but at the same time, I can't say I'm hugely tempted to see it.

my first impression was similar, in that the movie was built on the image of (extra skinny) slutty girl in underwear and chained up, and then a script was written around it. it may be well made and well acted, but i'll wait for the DVD to see it and give it the benefit of the doubt.

but then, like chacha, i'll fall asleep on the couch!
sybarite
I've only ever seen Letter from an Unknown Woman by Max Ophüls, but I loved that. Excellent old school psychological melodrama.

I really liked The Prestige and think that The Illusionist pales beside it, despite the presence of Edward Norton.

I saw Factory Girl last week and (despite reservations about Sienna Miller's acting abilities) quite enjoyed it. My boyfriend (if he but knew) Guy Pearce plays Warhol really, really well.

Sidecar, I had the same problems with Hustle & Flow.
mandolyn
".. chaining a half-dressed sexy girl to a radiator so an old man can cure her of nymphomania."wait, that's the premise of the movie? um, okaayyyy.

"I thought Dustin Hoffman's typically obsessed/constantly eating English professor was pretty realistic." bwah! too funny, chacha, since my exact words to danny were, "be prepared. college professors can be pretty eccentric." (he's having issues with two possibly ... slightly ... unstable (for lack of a better generalization) teachers now, and he's only in 9th grade. i'm trying to teach him to play by their rules, roll with the punches, etc.)

tell me more about the prestige. hugh jackman, right? that's a no-brainer for me. i heart hugh.

and are there any spiders in pan's labrynth?

speaking of spiders, i've been watching snippets of king kong on HBO. i'm pretty enamoured of the special effects. really annoyed by Naomi Watts' one-note acting, and the fact that she didn't scream heartily enough. and godDAMN if peter didn't put yet another hugeass scary spider in this one! (i saw one leg in the cave, and switched the channel, just in time. whew!)

some of you may recall the obssessive anticipatory anxiety i went thru before seeing TLOTR, the return of the king, with that goddamn fucking spider. which to this day, i still haven't glimpsed, not even one creepy leg. thank christ.
bunnyb
mando, have you watched HP and the Chamber of Secrets?

The Prestige stars Hugh Jackman, Christian Bale and Michael Caine and is fabulous. I'm planning to see The Illusionist this weekend -it's only just been released in cinema here- as it has received rave reviews by some BUSTies (notably sassygrrl) but I suspect that once you've seen one the other pales.

Stranger than Fiction is on my rental list and need to bump it up to top.

eta: I forgot: I took bunbun to see Charlotte's Web at weekend and it wasn't awful; it was sweet and faithful to the book and Dakota Fanning wasn't too annoying and Wilbur was beyond cute.
mandolyn
bunny, was that the one with all the spiders leading to the the big huge scary spider?
we watched that at home. danny had seen it in the theater (he's an HP fanatic), so he told me when to close my eyes. altho sometimes the spidey sound effects are just as scary. *shudder*

danny's my protector-against-all-things-arachnid. hee.
sixelacat
I saw Black Snake Moan last night, and really liked it. The trailer and ads really don't do it justice, just focusing on Ricci in her undies and chained. It's really about two fucked up people trying to get a grip on their demons. Ricci is soooo freakin' skinny it's not sexy, she looks ill (which is kind of the point). I do have a soft spot for movies with really screwed up characters who don't come to a bad end, or are preachily "cured" at the end. I saw it under the best circumstances, too, there were only 3 other people in the theatre!

Ack, mando, if you're watching snippets of King Kong, be careful! The creepy spiders and bugs bit goes on for quite a while (def. not safe to flip back after a couple of minutes, more like 10 or 15....it seemed to last forever when I watched it).
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